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Could I reduce my benzo tolerance by taking gaba antagonists?

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- Wed, 11 Mar 2020 14:42:45 EST XIUSmdow No.148510
File: 1583952165821.jpg -(78280B / 76.45KB, 600x772) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Could I reduce my benzo tolerance by taking gaba antagonists?
I'm starting to develop a high tolerance for benzos. I want that tolerance down so I can take lower doses. Would some form of gaba antagonist do this, and are there other ways to reduce tolerance?
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Hamilton Turveywell - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 06:16:19 EST kUv4Zlj6 No.148650 Reply
flumazenil iv don't feel good. trust me
Phyllis Bendlekadging - Sun, 05 Apr 2020 02:24:46 EST xcEYRHJE No.148678 Reply
The drug alone can cause seizures. If referring to OP post, I don't see it in any way, being a very good idea for any reason 'in any amount' in the 'manner you are speaking of.'

Possibility of pregabalin withdrawal?

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- Thu, 20 Feb 2020 02:54:46 EST KX+w8WBQ No.148351
File: 1582185286670.png -(3394877B / 3.24MB, 2500x2000) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Possibility of pregabalin withdrawal?
Like an idiot, I did pregabalin 3 days in a row. 2000mg each time. Am I going to get bad withdrawals? Anything to deal with these withdrawals that preferably doesn't require more prescription medication? All I got is phenibut.
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Doris Heshwater - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 19:59:39 EST XiHqRv0i No.148500 Reply
they were so bad that he was finally able to take that final well-deserved leap into the abyss nb
Fuck Seckleford - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 10:46:54 EST F8U4QtUV No.148662 Reply
You'll get some symptoms probably. I've been doing that routine a few years usually a few days or a week of general malaise that you cant attribute anything too, weird physical shit. you depressingly get used to withdrawing.

Kpins not show up on drug screens

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- Sat, 28 Mar 2020 18:58:43 EST Aw60hiec No.148642
File: 1585436323425.jpg -(21524B / 21.02KB, 300x225) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Kpins not show up on drug screens
I screen my urine everyonce in a while to make sure my stuff is good.

have been taking kpin for about 4 days

doesn't show up at all.

my test is for 10 different types of drugs benz included
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DTMO - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 11:26:56 EST dfPfeG2G No.148660 Reply
Not saying you're wrong but I find valium hits quicker than clonazepam and probably even Xanax. Most sources say onset in 30mins. Side note, and I know I keep raving about it, but if you like the muscle relaxation from diazepam then nitrazepam may well be worth checking out. Best body high of any benzo I've tried yet.
lol - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:19:35 EST BqpvRW4y No.148661 Reply
Interesting. I always found them to be mostly the same in terms of onset (of the big four I mean, kpin, xan, ativan, valium) with ativan always feeling like it took slightly longer for some reason imo.

Shit to do on Etizolam in Quarantine

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- Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:22:38 EST 2EnpPJdv No.148657
File: 1585628558700.jpg -(21769B / 21.26KB, 720x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Shit to do on Etizolam in Quarantine
I like messing around with my synthesizers and drum machine and making music, and also playing videl games of a vast variety

What do you guys like to do while on Etizolam. What doses do you take?

If it's gonna be a chill, normal night for me I'll most likely take anywhere from 2 - 5 mg. I typically don't enjoy any doses above 5mg though. I fall asleepy stupid easy at those doses.

So far playing Doom Eternal while on small-ish doses of Etizolam and smoking weed with it have been amazing.

I really want some Etizolam

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- Mon, 23 Mar 2020 16:45:31 EST 2EnpPJdv No.148606
File: 1584996331929.jpg -(31911B / 31.16KB, 720x405) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I really want some Etizolam
>tfw your girlfriend doesn't want you doing any drugs besides weed anymore
>tfw you haven't touched benzos in general for over a year
>tfw you really want to dip your toes back into Etizolam but your conscience won't let you because

Feels bad, man. I just wanna eat a little bit of Etizolam without feeling like a bad person about doing it.
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Fanny Minkintat - Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:20:11 EST 3e/Aj8kC No.148633 Reply
I ordered two 50 ct. boxes of Etizest. Won't be here for anothwr 10 days, but I'm still stoked. Probably gonna keep it around for a little while and just dip into it every now and then.
George Pemmerworth - Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:30:00 EST OCxWh1rM No.148652 Reply
Get it while you can OP. I got lucky in ordering a 30 ml dropper right before my state scheduled it. I try and only dose 1mg 4 times a month max, and I've still got a ton of it in the bottle.

It's been great as a way to keep me from drinking 24/7 more that I've lost my job and stay at home all day. Gotta have at least one day a week you don't black out drunk.
Lillian Dazzlemot - Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:42:45 EST 3e/Aj8kC No.148653 Reply

That's pretty much how I intend to use the Etizest that I ordered. I wanna use it to pretty much stop drinking (besides just casually drinking when out at a restaurant) and to wind down with some weed after a day of work.

kpin city and im the new mayor

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- Thu, 26 Mar 2020 18:15:19 EST Aw60hiec No.148630
File: 1585260919504.jpg -(96511B / 94.25KB, 500x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. kpin city and im the new mayor
So I want to preface this by saying I have not had a script for benzos in about 3 years. I have GAD and a little social anxiety.

I just got off the phone with my psych. Appointments are currently over the phones because of COVID. This would be the third time I've seen her.

She asked me a little about my anxiety during the COVID thing. I told her I was anxious as usual blah blah blah.

She tells me she is writing a script for clonazepam. I'm think sweet I can do with a little.

We end the call and I get a Walgreens notification on my phone like 30mins later. I look at the new scripts

180 fucking .5 k pins

Still speechless. Got grabbed them
Jack Dedgeway - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:51:52 EST bOg1JPbz No.148643 Reply
Similar thing happened to me. Been taking benzos for a few months due to anxiety and I really need to taper. Got in touch with psychologists over the phone and they diagnosed me with AD/HD and they told me that I have really telling symptoms. Scripted me adderal. Strangely, after taking my first dose, I had ambitions to taper off of benzos, so I did. After taking the addys, I had less withdrawal effects and just functioned fine.

No real pleasure from the amph. Just increased work performance. Weird. Definitely made me focus more, want to take benzos less, but I don't want to spare my weekends without the nice benz vibes, so benz on weekends, stims on weekdays. Maybe take a T-break when the time feels right.

how fuckes am I? thus is my benzo dose record after a 5 day t-break.

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- Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:38:25 EST uiX8kUpC No.148602
File: 1584985105282.jpg -(29896B / 29.20KB, 300x298) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. how fuckes am I? thus is my benzo dose record after a 5 day t-break.
ay 16:
2mg 0730
2mg 1206

Day 15:
4 mg 1425
4 mg etizolam 1617
6mg 1833
6mg 2030
4 mg 2145
2mg 2255
2mg 0730

Day 14
2mg 1203
4 mg 1205
2mg 1418
7.5mg 1431
.8mg 1657
8mg 1628
10 mg 1845
2mg 2004.
2mg 2010
12 mg 2050
10 mg 2155
2mg 2200
8mg 0205
8mg 0336
1 mg clam 0535
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Kim Il Sung - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 02:50:26 EST P5d5omkx No.148615 Reply
my dude coming from a benzo lover and addict for decades, you need to slow down. that's some insane benzo use if I'm reading this all right. you live how you want though of course! I'm just sayin the withdrawal from all of that could be brutally fatal.

John Crottingbidge - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 07:43:31 EST bOg1JPbz No.148616 Reply
Yeah this dependence is kinda fucking with my work life rn. Trying to taper down now. Hard to do though. I'm married to benzos.

What would be enough etizolam to kill yyou?

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- Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:15:08 EST bOg1JPbz No.148609
File: 1585016108912.jpg -(451963B / 441.37KB, 2016x2439) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What would be enough etizolam to kill yyou?
Just out of curiosity, how much could kill you? What if you mixed kratom and alcohol into the mix? Would you die?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:32:54 EST FIs+k9om No.148610 Reply
Nope. Sorry, but suicide threads are not allowed, bud. Reported.

Benzo and thienodiazepines are leagues safer than their barbiturate counterparts. People often take ridiculous doses of benzos with alcohol and other drugs. Instead of dying people can end up in comas, arrested, physically hurt, stealing, and any number of other toxic things while blacked out for days on end.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:34:26 EST FIs+k9om No.148611 Reply
Also, etizolam and kratom, arguably, are some of the safest GABA and mu opioid receptor agonists out there. Both substances are legal in a large amount of countries online or even in person (more so with the kratom).


Rx increase help

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- Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:25:38 EST SgSHZhyL No.148589
File: 1584836738532.gif -(978398B / 955.47KB, 500x281) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Rx increase help
How long should one be on a benzo until it’s no long affective and you need more? I want to get a bump from my doctor but I don’t want to be seen as a drug seeker and potentially lose what I have now. I’m honestly not trying to just abuse them I really do need them to cope. I think my doctor will understand but I’m still worried about it. Truth is I’ve felt overdue for a bump but always act like everything is fine when I see him.

I know the whole thing your not supposed to take these long term but that is how my doctor has been giving it to me. I started at .25mg xan morning and night and after a few months went to x3 .25 a day. Maybe almost a year until I had a bad meltdown and he suggested moving up to .25mg x4 a day.

The only thing is now I can’t get anymore per day I have to get an increase in dosage and I don’t want things to backfire if I tell him that. It’s been about 2 and half years now at this rate. So I do feel overdue for a bump but also am worried as in his mind it has been working for so long at this level. I’m also fearful he may switch it for something else that won’t help me as much.


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- Tue, 18 Feb 2020 09:06:19 EST vL8Yr29E No.148327
File: 1582034779819.jpg -(90934B / 88.80KB, 700x851) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Nitrazepam
I haven't seen much discussion of this one on here. Personally it's my new favourite benzo. Valium was my old favourite but this stuff is like the first 30 mins of euphoria from diazepam but lasts for 24 hours. Maybe temazepam + clonazepam is a good comparison point. I've tried Alprazolam, clonazepam, diazepam, oxazepam (lol) and Temazepam and this stuff stands along. Anyone else a convert?
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Kim Il Sung - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 09:14:30 EST cH8tad2r No.148471 Reply
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man I've always wanted to try Nitrazepam but you dont see it much here in the US. at least where I'm at.

what's oxazepam like I'd love an actual breakdown of how it feels I'm curious.
DTMO - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 05:55:50 EST 1fA2B2vw No.148582 Reply
Oxazepam takes forever to come on and is fairly underwhelming when it does IMO. On the plus side it does last for a reasonable time.


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- Sat, 07 Mar 2020 09:07:24 EST /lWYvoln No.148493
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So I fucked up and took a tab of .5 clonolzolam 4 days in a row and now I'm definitely withdrawaling. How long should I expect this to last? I still have a lot left but dont want to prolong this. I'm just looking for some advice I've never been big into benzos and can hardly believe this is happening after such a short time.
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lol - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:04:24 EST xQEqVS9+ No.148542 Reply
I always figured it has to do with how strong it is along with the half life, assuming you take it daily it builds up hard. Was taking anywhere from 1 to 3mg a day, on some crazy days 4 or 5 but that only happened a handful of times. Unsurprisingly had multiple overdoses and a mental hospital trip in those say about 3 months I was taking it daily. The WD was hell. Only time I've ever hallucinated outside of using substances that cause it, I was terrified of everything, looking out windows laying in bed with a knife, crazy shit.

It's not a drug to be fucked with, everyone I know irl has either overdosed from it or got locked up/fucked their lives up with it. It's not something anyone with any sort of addiction problem should try and it's so fucking strong I can't see newbs using it safely either. Really one of those why the fuck does this exist type drugs to me. I wouldn't say it should ever be banned just because me and a few other junkies couldn't handle ourselves but still I'd never reccomened it to someone in good faith.
Eliza Pinningsidging - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 17:12:05 EST /fZHNx74 No.148545 Reply
I don't really get all the fuzz about clam.
Been using it daily for about a year now, from various sources, so it's not the batch and it's pretty easy to manage for me. The worst thing happening while on this drug, was touching a girl at a concert, while I was there on a date with another girl.
But I never really went above 1,5mg a day. Right now I'm down to 400mcg and trying to taper further down and actually it's not that hard. It's not even my first taper. Don't wanna advocate clam use though. It is strong for sure.
William Durryfuck - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 03:07:22 EST aw6SIa2F No.148564 Reply
I took an Etiz and a cLam press the other day and I had just brought home some Thai food. BOOM I am transported to my bed and it's the next day. Ate all the Thai food and didn't even get to enjoy it, I only remember eating one bite.


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- Thu, 12 Mar 2020 19:32:39 EST /s/flaSd No.148528
File: 1584055959352.jpg -(54727B / 53.44KB, 720x536) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Kava
This probably doesn't belong here but I figured people here should know that Kava is pretty nice. Just one teaspoon of it is almost identical in it's effects to a light benzo dose. It's pretty awesome and anyone who's trying to quit benzos would probably do well to try using it

I'm sure higher doses of it would probably feel like a heavier dose of benzos.
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Simon Tootstone - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 05:51:52 EST 0p2h6uj0 No.148541 Reply
I looked at this image for about 5 minutes and had to stop because i thought i was tripping or gonna have a seizure
Ian Brubblewell - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 19:45:44 EST +xVwAiKX No.148546 Reply
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Reversed image searched it; Tomohiro Takagi has some pretty nifty human/animal surrealist stuff

Kava is effective to me for fairly mild anxiety, but there is a limit to the usefulness of that before it just brings headaches/nausea/dizziness. It’s okay for a slightly relaxing evening with some friends, but larger doses doesn’t cut it compared to benzos. May be helpful to some for tension when nearing the end of a taper, but YMMV.
m - Sun, 15 Mar 2020 07:18:16 EST gNIXakDo No.148552 Reply
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Pretty much this. It doesn't scale all that well. I've tried extracts+ quality root on top (whichever root that doesn't shit your liver, I forget). Sadly enough, it seems to synergize best with liquor, but mixing the two is NOT safe whatsoever. I had high liver enzymes during the year I did that.

That being said, it can definitely potentiate a shitty dose of benzos into a decent dose, all without ruining your tolerance as bad as more benzos would. Past experience with maybe 2-3mg etizolam/ 1-1.5mgxanax, low dose 200-600mg gabapentin, 3-5g kava kava, and chamomile extract was pretty decent.

Zolpidem question

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- Mon, 09 Mar 2020 19:26:55 EST tyz0dhBv No.148504
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Apologies to the moderators and the rest of the board if this post is misplaced.

Zolpidem long-term tolerance, even after very, very extended breaks.

This substance was originally mild-to-moderately "magical" to me, with very interesting and pleasant effects and distortions of my perceptions, mood, etc.

Now days, ordinary therapeutic dosages do absolutely nothing for me. Elevating the dose by double to sometimes double and a half does not result in increasing any effects. To me, the substance has become truly inert.

There was one occasion that I decided to take an unnecessarily stupid large dose, with my wife as a sitter just in case anything serious would occur, and the result was simply very unpleasant nausea, apathy, and "monotone speaking."

I was just wondering if anyone with personal experience with this substance would like to chime in with any thoughts they'd like to share.

One last thing to note - There was a period of time when I was regularly using this substance at low dose to very effectively negate the unpleasant effects of stimulant crash - It seemed far more effective than other benzos when used for this purpose.

Thanks for your time, /benz/. And once again, I apologize if z-drug topics are not for this board or possibly annoying in general.
Lindsey Payne - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 07:47:33 EST PusCqQ1j No.148509 Reply
Must be a real thing because I'm prescribed it now 15 a month 10mg per day, only supposed to take on days where I need to work that night which is usually half the month. I would get home from work in the morning, take about 20-25mg and feel great, playing video games and then having little to no recollection of it. Once took 35mg and had 2 hallucinations. Now I take 25mg-30mg and feel almost nothing, kind of afraid to take more, what is your max dose? Im 180lb, thats ~82kg in case you're a euragutan, although it still gets me to sleep real fast if I don't try to stay up through it. Really disappointing too because it was my favorite drug for about a year, maybe less when I noticed the effects were diminishing.
And my breaks from it are basically a month, since I take about 3 of the 15 pills per day until I'm out for the month. How long was your break?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:26:54 EST Hw4s73/L No.148524 Reply
10mg to 20mg zaleplon used to wreck my shit akin to MXE or Ketamine, but I never really had any recreational effects from zolpidem. Everyone's different. The tolerance increase is less of an issue for recreational use, but does impact medicinal usage. Also, once the "magic" is gone it is very difficult for it to return.
About 4 years ago I took somewhere between 120mg and 150mg zolpidem plus clonazepam, lorazepam, cyclobenzaprine, and whiskey. My tolerance was ridiculously high from how much alprazolam I had been taking, so I had a mild brownout with zero hallucinations. All I ended up doing was texting and chatting with friends on the phone, on a weeknight, at 4:00 AM.

A few months back I had a brief zolpidem script for 5mg and 10mg tablets. The 5mg tablets didn't do anything and the 10mg tablets were only effective for maybe 5 to 10 administrations. I wasn't even taking the drug more than 3x per week and my benzo tolerance was significantly lower. Maybe the magic will never return.

Grapefruit Juice

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- Tue, 10 Mar 2020 01:00:51 EST bHne/R3s No.148506
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So.... I got a triazolam Rx from my dentist and he gave me way more than I needed.
I noticed on thr botthe it was VERY ADAMANT that I don't take grapefruit juice with it.

So of course I want to, the literature I d found online basically said it extends the active duration. Given that triazolam is like... 2-3 hours, yeah of course I'd like to extend that.

I didn't read about it being fatal.... I'm wondering if anyone's had experience willfully pote tiating their benzos with grapefruit juice.
m - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 13:46:03 EST gRVjhKoI No.148521 Reply
The biggest thing to remember about triazolam is to snort it, not eat it. Another option is to boof it dissolved in solution. You could even inject it, assuming you had micron filters and wanted to risk injection for a benzo lol. It's supposedly 44% efficient orally, 53% sublingually, and a whopping 98% intranasally (at least in dogs).

So realistically, snorting it in a tiny bit of solution, something like ~0.15-0.25ml solution, 0.3ml max per nostril for each dose, would be best. It'll be 2x stronger than oral and the rush is up there with oral cLam and IV midazolam.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:19:51 EST Hw4s73/L No.148523 Reply
With grapefruit and grapefruit juices make sure to get 100% grapefruit juice. Ocean Spray once sold 100% white grapefruit juice, but now the closest they sell is a blend of white and ruby, which is still fine for potentiation and CYP3A4 inhibition purposes. I have heard of some regional grocery chains selling 100% white grapefruit juice off-brands, but have never bought any myself.

Literature supports grapefruit increases the effects of benzodiazepines and opioids in addition to increasing their duration. The way you'll want to administer the grapefruit juice, as per research, is to drink up to 8 fl. oz. each day. When you do actually take the benzo or opioid then you will want to drink your standard amount of grapefruit juice in addition to drinking some immediately upon administration.

One study had participants drink something like 5 fl. oz. of grapefruit juice three times per day for five days before consuming the drug. Also, cimetidine (Tagamet) is a CYP3A4 inhibitor, but it reacts rather negatively to some SNRIs (e.g. duloxetine) and can cause some unpleasant side-effects when used frequently.

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