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Diazepam Doses

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- Mon, 20 Jan 2020 18:06:21 EST VSM1fhal No.148134
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I see a lot of people here praise Valium as the gold standard of benz, genuinely curious, what are your dosage levels like? And does the long half-life make it more difficult to use with shorter times between using (like 24 hours)?
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dr. m - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:39:48 EST UOwPxq3y No.148155 Reply
>>148154
I couldn't agree more. Personally, for me, valium was lackluster as fuck apart from the muscle relaxation, at least in doses of like 40-50mg or less, whereas at the time of trying valium, the xanax equivalent or even less (like ~1.5mg+) was waaaay more pseudo-recreational.

Perhaps valium does shine, but my doses weren't high enough. Now I've been taking between ~5-15mg of etizolam/day about 3.5x/week though for almost a month, so once the diclaz arrives in a bit over a week, I'll be switching over for hopefully a somewhat short 30 day taper.

Everyone is definitely different though. I still haven't had clonazepam.
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Nathaniel Pegglefud - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:48:56 EST 4HCo1Vnc No.148156 Reply
>>148155
Funny thing is I dont like high dose of diazepam, they're very depressing and without lots of smoking or other drugs its too much of a downer. Higher doses of alpraz is definitely fun, i love the sea legs.
You should try clonazepam, it is quite different. In the usa at least, it is often prescribed as the crazy person benzo, probably for its anticonvulsant effect. In the past I took a lot, but its been many years now. I usually felt like a fun drug trip when I took one. It didnt really have the gentler parts of alpraz diaz etiz. Nice to enjoy once in awhile or to come down from stimulants.
Good luck tapering, I never enjoyed diclaz so I could see how it would be useful for tapering, though I am picky when it comes to benzos.
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Cyril Fiblingmudge - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:07:03 EST VSM1fhal No.148157 Reply
>>148156

what would you consider a strong dose of alprolozam? I weigh a lot (240lbs) and have always hard a naturally high baseline tolerance for most everything especially booze. I see a lot of people here say between 1.5 to 2mgs as a strong dose, but two bars (yes they're real, have scripts) only produces a very mild feelin/slight euphoria in addition to the anxiolytic effect.

I'm also on an SSRN and take amitryptyline so dunno what that matters

temazepam

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- Fri, 29 Nov 2019 19:07:10 EST jGaHMVL1 No.147778
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Sup dudes


Got a script for 30mg tammies but haven't taken anything other than phenergan and trazodone and syrup for insomnia before. I haven't been honest with my doctor because of mah jerb and shit but is it a good idea to get on benzos if you have no tolerance for sleeping pills atm and are suicidal with a past history of extreme paranoia and probably latent schizophrenia like 7ish years ago?

I'm thinking this is a bad idea but aside from niquil and phenergan, sleeping drugs don't work for me. I'm thinking starting 30mg of temazepam is a bad idea. Doc keeps saying I'm bipolar but I don't think that is the case at all. I'm just depressed as fuck and stay up for 30-40 hours at a time and cycle on and off between sleeping a lot and none.

I'll be honest, benzo's scare me a bit and I've been with fucked up sleep systems or whatever for over a decade so I handle it very well. Afraid I might be going down a road to severe drug addiction, I don't have nothing left to lose and am already suicidal and don't give a fuck. Should I just toss em and say they make me sick or some other lie? I wasn't complaining about insomnia or being tired and shit, the doc just threw them at me like trick or treat candy, along with a lot of other antipsychotics and antidepressants. I've been on about 10 different drugs so far and they all make me feel like shit or make me skittish as fuck.

Sorry if /qq/, I just trust the wise wisdom of 420chan psychonauts

Also, you guys familiar with navane?
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Henry Tootshit - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:37:11 EST 4HCo1Vnc No.148092 Reply
>>147784
I dated a Jewish girl who was dx bipolar and many other things. Her psychiatrist wrote her 60-90 30mg temazepam/month (whatever the max was, 60 or 90), also max dose generic adderall, librium, xanax. Her would write her codine and hydrocodone sometimes too (for depression and special events). This was when she was in high school too. Like 2006-10. I met him and he was a loon, or at least not playing by the rules. I guess rich people psychiatrists give the good drugs.
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Hugh Bronkinwit - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 03:21:47 EST akNXjINh No.148101 Reply
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OP here, still off all that shit. Got some tinnitus that randomly starts ringing and my dick is still broke but I think all the other side effects are gone now. Glad I got off that shit without too much damage. Starting to lose a bit of weight now but every time I sleep I get really bad heart burn but I think that is from being a fat fuck now.

Starting a new job next month but it is shitty pay and in a field I'm not good at nor do I want to do.

I guess we'll see, thought I might get a boost from getting hired but it has caused more existential dread than anything else. Guess my main problem is I've just petered out. I got to work for another half dozen decades and then die. Why not just go on and do it now eh? Life means nothing when there is no future.

>After quitting therapy and all these drugs and shit I'm pretty well convinced all this shit is just a scam to make money. It is a lifestyle for nearly all of the people I've met through this shit. Get dope, get zombified, and stop functioning in life. I don't see how they do it. I utterly loathe existence but I'd rather have a bit of control. I dunno, maybe it just didn't get me high enough to dismiss caring about shit. None of the drugs worked as intended anyways.
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James Dibbleville - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:23:41 EST VGzhf7nb No.148103 Reply
>>147786
The weird test, many psychs offer this. I don't actually think they know it works.
But actually rely on it. I personally kinda cringe about the reliability of these and or those offering and their reading these. Just my opinion. I don't see it.

I had some difficulty, some time back. It was pretty much ongoing life and death
situation(s). What finally I found was a general practitioner Dr. Who I immediately found very sincere and trustful. She had spent an extra 4 years in medicine to become I guess practicing psychiatrist. She settled on ultimately general practice medicine with a major corporation with her own office, prectice. Like cigna, etc. She if very well known internet-wise she comes up all over the place.

Anyway, I explained what was going on. (no sleep) She initially prescribed z-drugs, ambien which was good for 4 hours of sleep a night. Then she said lets maybe see how trazadone does. Is that ok with you? saying it is an anti-depressant. I wasn't keen on taking what some may call crazy drugs.
I gave it a try because I knew she was working with me. Not just throwing stuff at me and she was sincere.

Trazadone is often called a poor persons ambien when prescribed off-label for sleep. $12 for 90 pills or so. It is widely used for that purpose, for sleep. It did have it's anti-depresssant qualities aside from just being able to sleep which was notable and a nice step in the right direction.

Previous, had been relying on larger amounts of diphenhydramine for sleep, and larger amounts of alcohol. Alcohol worked for as long as drinking, hours, then sleep with diphenhydramine, but it definitely wasn't the right solution. Slept but still really felt like shit in doing so when I woke up. Then do it all over again. That is what I had to look forward to.

So trazadone was total relief.

Im on day two back on it (trazadone) after some recent issues mirtazapine wasn't working for sleep. To reset things with it, It already has. I can stay on it or go back to mirtazapine, these have always been interchangable for me.

Zoloft prozac, are a no-go for me, buspar as well I believe?

Ultimately, found mirtazapine an anti-depressant for sleep. 7 to 15 mgs. & 7 mgs usually worked better than 15 for sleep. 30 mgs is a common anti-depressant dosage.

For most prescribed less is more as far as sleep. (mirtazapine) slept simply 8 hours, was sleeping in 15 minutes of taking it.

To make this short the days still had (at times) severe anxiety issues. So she prescribed me clonazepam to compliment the mirtazapine.

So in the end, 15 mg mirtazapine, which I explained 7 mgs did better for sleep. She said yes,
it is a drug that less can be more. Same goes with trazadone for many.

A new Dr recently gave me trazadone, he was trying to offer a different antidepressant. I asked can you give me trazadone, he agreed. I didn't want some antidepressant that would take me a way off direction. I know trazadone, it is kinda difficult to judge dosage, and sleep for 12 14 hours. Not wanting to actually get up. This was jsut to get things back on track.
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Benzobarbital

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- Mon, 11 Nov 2019 15:18:44 EST nIrHVqSM No.147624
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I know this is a barbiturate and not a benzo, i just figured this would be the beat place to make a thread about it.

Anyone have experience with this little known chem?

Only info i can find about it is its used in School medically at doses of 50 to 100mg for seizures, and its purported to be a phenobarbital prodrug but i cant find any scientific info that explicitely says that.

I may have about a gram of this stuff soon and am wondering if anyone knows what its like an how to dose it.
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Simon Pinninglock - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 00:25:57 EST gdd6sHlZ No.148083 Reply
50-100 mg's sounds incredibly high, but I've also never fucked with barbiturates. As previously stated, the therapeutic windows so small that it's easy to OD on the stuff. We use it to sac our animals in lab so I'm probably more scared of the stuff.
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Henry Tootshit - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:30:15 EST 4HCo1Vnc No.148091 Reply
barbs are kinda like alcohol or phenibut, where you need a higher dose (compared to benzos). not as potent as benzos
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Shit Peddleham - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 03:01:19 EST 5TJwVwwM No.148096 Reply
>>148091
Naw, I don't think you actually need a higher dose than what is presented.

Hearing loss from withdrawal

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- Wed, 01 Jan 2020 22:25:09 EST DxXbaTfv No.148028
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So my tinnitus is 90% gone from my withdrawal but spasms in my ears have consistently left them sore and my hearing dulled.

Did anyone else get this? Did you hearing fully return eventually?
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Henry Tootshit - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:38:56 EST 4HCo1Vnc No.148093 Reply
>>148028
sometimes it does, sometimes it don't . if you slowly tapered per ashton manual then you have a good chance of it healing proper

CBD and gaba receptors

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- Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:33:53 EST 86LjTa31 No.146096
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I know benzos work on gaba receptors (obviously). I did a little research and read CBD does as well. I need to get my benzo tolerance down bad and was considering picking up some CBD from the shop I work at. It's real quality stuff, not smoke shop shit. My question is will this help get my tolerance down even though it works on the same receptors, if I don't take any benzos? Sorry if this is a retarded question
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:24:14 EST I6YS7H0F No.146101 Reply
>>146096
There will not be a significant reduction in tolerance. Frankly, I have never heard of anyone using CBD or THC for anything but synergy with benzos.
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(Hey boys and girls is this your frisbee?) - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 00:46:17 EST rFpXtJkl No.148089 Reply
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>>146096
We have a winner!
(>Which commander was the chucklefuck?<)
User is currently banned from all boards

100% recovery, does it really happen? is it common?

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- Sat, 04 Jan 2020 00:59:35 EST DxXbaTfv No.148046
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How common is 100% recovery from protracted withdrawl?

I never abused, I took 1-3 times a week 1mg Ativan for 5 months. on month 6 I started once a day and did this for 1 month. I experienced interdose withdrawl and started trying to get off at the end of month 6.

failed CT, did a 2 week taper because didn't know of the Ashton manual.

I'm 6 months off and still have tinnitus,, even if it takes years is this likely truly for life?

I just turned 30. I mean even if it takes 2-3 years to reach 100% that's fine, but it seems like so many people never fully recover.
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Fuck Casslestire - Tue, 07 Jan 2020 16:29:19 EST 4HCo1Vnc No.148075 Reply
>>148072
Which part do you not understand?
For close to 6 years many symptoms that appeared after quitting benzos quick taper, never disappeared. Then I started taking 5mg diazepam sometimes per week and all the symptoms faded. Never was like anxiety, just feeling weird and off, mild tinnitus/jaw stuff. I'm fine with it, I like 5mg diazepam, I dont like many other benzos and I dont like high doses of benzos.
If one wants to quit benzos forever, they should taper slowly as possible, Ashton manual, dont cheat like a dumbass. Then never touch benzos or any other "gaba drug" (alcohol, muscle relaxers, opium, gabapentinoids etc) for long as possible. The longer you wait before resuming gaba drugs, the better your receptors will recover. Naturally we cant wait forever so one might have to drink socially or something but if plagued by benzo paws symptoms, would really be worth avoiding.
Raw eggs are the perfect food, contain everything needed for life. Food of champions, anyone concerned about health or feeling good should eat them. Some shell too. I mention because someone quitting drugs needs sufficient sustenance for their body to adequately regenerate.
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dr. m - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 05:21:34 EST UOwPxq3y No.148076 Reply
>>148046

Yes, yes IMO it does truly happen, or at least ~95-98% recovery. Here's my presonal story, that I'll try trucate for your convenience, but spoiler alert I just took ~9.5-11mg of oral etizolam...

for the first time in maybe idk 2-4.5 or 5+ days, delivered orally via 151 proof/ 75.5% ethanol tincture prepared at approximately 1mg etiz/1ml of 151 spirits, guaranteed ~0.8-0.85+mg/ml for sure (long story short), yet the continual, accumulative spirit evporation over time that normally occurs on a consistent and accumulative basis, as is inherent in the consistently repeated process of measuring out ~3-15ml doses of a etiz-laced spirit from an (even just temporarily) uncapped 151 spirit bottle, strongly supports the educated guess that such potential perceived "overdilution"/"underdosing" of said tincture is either already currently offset (or is otherwise guaranteed to offset in the future at some future points) by an unknown degree/rate in which the 151 spirits have evaporated, thereby notably reducing tincture volume and thus increasing tincture etizolam concentration.

Which btw, as I'm "stuck" using uses 75.5% alcohol, which I strictly refuse to drink straight even once in my entire life (my personal limit approaches around ~60% on occasional and ~50% regularly) (purest ethanol level available for human consumption from actual liquid stores, excluding possible "gray arena: ~95-97% ethanol solution sold online nationally specifically marketed for use in various herbal tinctures), I chose the using of a solid mouth full filled mostly of 4.2% mich ultra light beer as the solution "buffer" that the etiz 151 proof tincture was rapidly successfully diffused into the light beer (squirted in vivo into previously mentioned liquid liquid columns of light beer suspended in the mouth, bring ultimately diffused via sterilized oral syringe of etizolam-laced 151 everclear solution) .


Back to your topic OP, my usage has been seen massive variation in usage levels, dosages, frequencies, drugs of choice, utilization of drug-tolernace-reducing mechanism for some months/years and not others, and unfortunately includes solid polysubstance use/abuse that further muddies the answer(s) to your question(s).

For years I abused what I'd classify as solidly moderate to occasionally moderately high benzo/thienobenzo use, but not like monster-type dosing. My benzo DOCs tended to be probably

  1. ~55% of etizolam in terms of total use of equivalent potency, with another

2. ~20% being 100% pure pharma xanax,

3. roughly ~6.5% being lorazepam,

4. ~0.5% being supposedly real diazepam (some was thai, most was cambodian, but I'm ~95%+ sure they were legit and ~80%+ sure they weren't underdosed)[%]
5. ~0.5% being supposed diclazepam

6. roughly ~6.5% being a myriad of z-drugs including abiem, lunesta (zopliclone isomer) sonata, with ~50-67% of said ~6.5% likely being lunesta due to my prefered for lunesta as it's objetively the most "benzo-like" z-drug commonly scripted.

7. something around ~1-2.5% being fluazlprazolam, though all but just 1-2 total doses were taken only in the sub ~200-500ug range, as its supposed ~2/2.5/possibly 3:1 potency ratio relative to pharma xanax is IMO 100% falsified garbage, with at least the physical sedation alone (at least in terms of sleep onset), being IMO much closer to roughly ~4.5-6.5x the potency of xanax instead of the often quote ~2-3:1, depending on the dosage used. Much like cLam, the flAP dose-response curve is NOT linear, though it appeared generally more linear that cLam, or the even more non-linear dose-response curve-possessing flubromazolam or flunitriazolam.

~7.5% being "low" to moderate/moderately high doses of cLam (usually just ~125-250ug for most doses, rough equivalent of supposedly 1-2mg etizolam, but definitely several months in there of roughly 102x cLam usage max at dosesarpproaching ~250-500ug, possibly up to 666-750, and VERY, VERY, VERY consumed above doses around 1mg total cLam administered within any one 24h period. It' possibly I consumed as high as ~1.25/1.5/1.75/2mg cLam are very select, EXTREMELY lomited moments in my life, and to thr brdy og my knowledge, I never exceeded 2mg cLam within any 24h period, or ~1.25-1.5mg eithin any single ~6-12hr period. Even then, such self-described cLam "high dose binges' (IMO anything above 1mg+ at once taken ~2.5x+/week is constitutes heavy significant use, anything over ~1-1.25mg, particularly ~1.5mg+ or more, taken within the same ~2.5x/week exposture duration window: definitely without a doubt but very limited in quantity and assurate, with my potentially biased memory

________

So, with my history of use largely explained, I'll say this. It took a solid, serious ~18-24 months of ~99.99% benzo cessation (talking maximum 1-1.5mg xanax equivalent once every 90 days or less, and no more than 4mg equivalent over entire 12 month period) in terms of the "hyper-anxiogesia" rebound anxiety, and an additional ~6-12 months at least partially rewiring health/semi-health non-drug coping mechanisms for stress and anxiety.
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David Honeyhood - Thu, 09 Jan 2020 21:47:14 EST DxXbaTfv No.148082 Reply
>>148074
>>148069
Long taper wasn't an option I was ignorant and so was my psych. I had to leave because he didn't believe I was still in withdrawl at 5 months.

Now I'm nearing month 7 and I still see signs of healing, my tinnitus volume is still dropping albeit gradually.

I usually get hit with a bad wave that fades over days and once it ends the overall volume becomes lower than it was originally.

I only hear tinnitus laying down now and it's quiet-ish now.

But I think I have permanent hearing loss from the spasms in my ears.

Etiz vs loraz

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- Mon, 30 Dec 2019 08:16:30 EST qyBQStLh No.148016
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Is w/d from etizolam worse, better, or the same, as w/d from an equivalent amount of Ativan?
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dr. m - Sat, 04 Jan 2020 15:38:58 EST UOwPxq3y No.148056 Reply
>>148044
>Why should etiz replace alpraz?
etiz is moderately less sedative, significantly less impairing, and more anxiolytic than xanax when compared at 2:1 ratio. Etizolam also has a minor reverse tolerance for the first ~2-6 honeymoon period, but most importantly, it seems to "damage" tolerance notably less than xanax, and significantly less than other longer acting benzos e.g. diclazepam, diazepam, clonazepam, lorazepam, etc.

>at least for me, tiny doses <1mg of etiz are awkward when low doses of alpraz work great. Maybe at larger amounts they're close enough.

Are you taking twice as much etizolam? Otherwise it's not a fair comparison. Is it for sleep or anxiety?

Did you even read my post to begin with? lol
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Albert Blunningseck - Sat, 04 Jan 2020 18:33:13 EST xIsVhdGV No.148057 Reply
You are right half as strong
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Priscilla Worthingway - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 16:09:08 EST 4HCo1Vnc No.148079 Reply
>>148056
Yes. .25mg alpraz works for me, .50-.75mg etiz is very awkward, nausea, rebound anxiety, can take surprisingly long to kick in compared to alpraz. 1-1.25mg is pretty consistent but then I am full drunk like and sometimes get rebound anxiety days later. I take them for to be uninhibited/social. I only get ""anxiety"" when its rebound.
I haven't taken etiz super long term, many years ago I took higher doses of etiz and alpraz. I can't comment on long term tolerance damage. I could see at 1+mg/day etiz, it might be better habit than alpraz, but personally I'd take a quarter dose of alpraz over etiz any day.
For the reverse tolerance effect, does it only work for etiz? ie one will become more sensitive to same/lower doses for some weeks/months? Doesn't affect other benzo tolerance?

Talking to Dr about getting dosage raised

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- Fri, 03 Jan 2020 03:18:13 EST 8VvqIWv1 No.148038
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A couple of months ago (October), I was scripted 90 .25mg xanax per month for both sleep and anxiety issues, but feel as though I can only use it for sleep due to not wanting to call in too early for a new one. I have an appt at the end of the month and was wondering how the best way to address this would be.

Should I tell him that the medication is helping, but I am using it primarily for sleep, and was wondering if he could reccomend a psychologist to help develop coping strategies for anxiety? Or what would be the best approach to getting the dosage increased?

I have had 3 severe panic attacks within the last 3 months; one of which I had to leave work from.
I really do feel like having the script raised to 90 .5mg's would help so much with my anxiety, but I understand it's a touchy subject, especially only having been on it for 3 months.

Also a side note, I am not prescribed any antidepressants for anxiety and was hoping to avoid this route
I was scripted a antidepressant for sleep before this and it did not help
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Barnaby Blytheworth - Mon, 06 Jan 2020 16:01:30 EST 8VvqIWv1 No.148070 Reply
OP here
>>148048
The xanax does help with my sleep though; both in terms of helping me fall asleep and stay asleep. My mind is constantly going , especially at night, so the xanax helps in terms of falling asleep cause it allows me to turn off my mind and get rest. In terms of staying asleep, it helps because whenever I wake up to use the restroom, my mind isnt in 'go mode' when I'm on xanax. I can fall back asleep without having to start the whole process over again.
A friend gave me 1 mg kpin a month ago and it definitely helped, but I think I prefer xanax because of how fast it worked and I dont feel groggy the next day

>>148049
The Dr said when I described how I felt that it sounded like Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and that I could take when I feel extremely uncormfortable/tense and am allowed to take 1-2 at night to help me sleep.
The bottle says I can take 3 per day, but I know that 90 is meant for like 45/60 days
Should i tell him about the panic attacks or no?
Also ty for the advice on the UA
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Barnaby Blytheworth - Mon, 06 Jan 2020 17:07:16 EST 8VvqIWv1 No.148071 Reply
I know there are alot of factors that go into play for determining the right medicine for every patient, I'm just struggling with the dilemma of: do I wait until I've been on the medication for a while and go with the 'my body has become used to this dose ' route, or should I tell him next visit the xanax is helping but not as effective as i need?
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dr. m - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 05:35:09 EST UOwPxq3y No.148077 Reply
>>148038
I would personally suggst that you talk to you doctor about "an online advertisement" for a drug called either lunesta or sonata, your choice. Lunesta feels most like a xanax/benzo, whereas sonata is great for sleep, only lasts like ~1.5-2.5hr, is great for falling asleep if u can manage staying asleep, and most importantly, IIRC, sonat doesn't significantly alter sleep architecture.

See if you wonder can switch you do a daily dose for the sleep meds, and an as needs for anxiety xanax script with the unspoken understanding that they're for only the more severe "episodes" and can't be taken just because it's Tuesday and your rental bill is normally due on Tuesdays or some shit.

If he gets weirded out by you seeming to know too much, insist you saw an online add for sonata, decided to read more about this sleep quality/sleep architecture thing, and are very concerned that xanax might be reducing the quality of the sleep you're actually getting. If you do choose the sonata route over the more "abuseable" lunesta, you coud also spin it is "oh and yeah it's just so much shorter acting, so the pamphlets says hpefully I should received similar effective results for longer periods of time without having to increase dosages or switch to other medications/formulas."

1,4 BDO

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- Sun, 15 Dec 2019 05:09:47 EST NRgGjCq5 No.147931
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Or simpler buteane diol back in School we would drink like 3ml and it felt like 2mg Xanax, 2 shots vodma, and 200mf all at once. It's supposed to turn into GHB. Anyone else try it? I had an overdose once mixing it with mehedrone. THRew up everything and was in a 2 hour coma but thankfully my homies took great care of me. Felt like alcohol poisoning. Anyway the best of times felt like mdma dxm and ketamine mixed together. It's legal in the USA right? I suggest you try. But start slow. 2ml too much and it's blackout vomit comet and dry heaving for 2 hours
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Clara Nabberdut - Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:46:34 EST dudUPdod No.148005 Reply
I have never done it but BDO can be bought on that one massive shipping website that begins with an A and is named after a river.. No shit. You can check yourself.

I have experience consuming GHB, GBL, and 1,4BDO all on their own. There is really no need to make GHB except for the fact that it may be easier on your liver and help you avoid metabolic acidosis. I have also heard BDO is especially hard on your liver, even with high purity.

GHB is both schedule 1 and schedule 3(makes no fucking sense)
GBL is schedule1
BDO on the other hand is hard to say, It is not scheduled in most states but may be covered under the analog act. I've never known anyone to synthesize GHB or GBL from either substance because they act as a prodrug and can be consumed anyway. Also, GBL is stronger and more euphoric than GHB so I prefer it.


PS why are you mixing so many depressants with a drug as lethal as G? I had a coworker friend who used to shoot up 0.5-1 mg dilaudid and do 3ml or more of GBL. I thought he was going to die every single time. Do not mix G with any depressants ever(except kratom)

TLR They all turn into GHB after processed by your liver, NEVER MIX G
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Jarvis Grimfuck - Tue, 07 Jan 2020 05:42:45 EST NlrVzuAO No.148073 Reply
>>148008
Ive heard it is supposed to be made with a very certain synthesis method so not to be full of heavy metals. You can have like 98% bdo that really still shouldn’t be drank at all even though it’s quite pure, because it will have these impurities in it still if it’s made the cheaper way which is how it is made for use as a cleaning solvent. Supposedly most BDO that you’ll find is of this type because it’s not actually intended to be ingested, but to strip petrochemical residues from metal or things like that.
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too good to be true?

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- Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:10:50 EST isp0jzsi No.148003
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This dude showed me some green hulks for 2 dollars. is this sketch or does it seem legit? last time I heard they were going for like 5. I don't think they're fake or contain fent. they might contain etizolam if thye are fake but i don't know much about that.
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Clara Nabberdut - Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:35:47 EST dudUPdod No.148004 Reply
>>148003
You absolutely cannot tell real bars from fake ones and those for sure sound sketch. Make him show you the script bottle and even then they are most likely fake. I've compared real hulks that I know came from a pharmacy and some hulks that I 100% knew were fake based on the taste, consistency, effect, and the way they snap. They looked 100% similar and I would not be able to distinguish them if my life depended on it. You also cannot buy reagent tester kits that identify alprazolam from other benzos like flualprazolam(which tastes 100% as bitter and really only makes you sleepy), or etizolam or flubromazolam, or whatever rc benzo is used.

2 dollars a bar I would say there is like a 5 percept chance they are real, generously. You can't even get real alp on the darkwebs.

It's up to you but if you get burned don't be surprised.
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UnamusementPark !ikwaNLFmBo - Sat, 28 Dec 2019 03:10:31 EST rFpXtJkl No.148013 Reply
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>>148003
>mi amigo
@>197210375
COPE 5stallion.
Kinokari has much better writing than 5shit
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Nitrazolam

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- Wed, 18 Dec 2019 23:58:58 EST NRgGjCq5 No.147954
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Got a gram of nitrazolam. Best dose suggestions and how to dose it? Not much I do on this stuff.

>Goddamn this board is slow
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Stoned chocobo - Tue, 24 Dec 2019 08:44:32 EST NRgGjCq5 No.147984 Reply
>>147954
Welp after multiple 1-5mg doses through various roas I decided fuckit and ate 15mg Inna capsule 5 hours ago before bed. Annnnnd I still woke up with almost no relaxation. I feel like I got bunked even tho the other stuff from same vendor in same package was good.
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Stoned chocobo - Fri, 27 Dec 2019 12:32:21 EST NRgGjCq5 No.148009 Reply
>>148000
>>147984
Is it supposed to have any kind of burn or taste or sMell? I literally just ate a 5 mg pile and sniffed 10mg and absolutely nothing. Wtf

Anti-amnesiac drugs

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- Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:30:34 EST 0zHIWK4P No.145478
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Anyone ever use drugs to aid in the memory loss associated with benzo use? Phenylpiracetam works for me, anyone try anything else?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 24 Dec 2019 21:34:36 EST /xCHYmXq No.147987 Reply
>>145478
Caffeine sometimes, but really not using benzos is the best option possible.
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Nathaniel Gimmerkut - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 11:48:39 EST ZTL1N5Hn No.147992 Reply
>>147987
Memory, might be something simple. Cannot remember a pin number. For a few. (moments)

Caffeine can help get one's head in gear. But kinda.
Speed? sure, why not.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 18:33:39 EST wRfL43X9 No.147999 Reply
Dexedrine, or any ADD drug for that matter

XBENZ Time

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- Wed, 25 Dec 2019 15:22:59 EST M/PQpJj4 No.147996
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on the 23rd (2 days before xmas) i went to the nearby big city to grab some benz for enjoyment since i hadn't done them for a month or two and it always takes away the edge from my entirely nervously geeked out family. i get them and try a few and am making my way back to the train station and lo-and-behold, as i reach for a piece of chewing gum i found a joint i had hidden away cradled inside the pack between the gum blisters. fuckin' score, i haven't been smoking weed hardly at all for months either.

i take a video of me sparking it up infront of the tower the city is famous for and feel super good as it's burnt down and finished. i was a 2 min walk to the train terminal.

after that it's a complete blur. i wake up 1.5 days later in bed at home a city over.

and i lost my fuckin iphone but not anything else like my wallet (thankfully).

even after purchasing a ticket for the train, riding it for an hour, i'd have to wait around for a bit to catch the local city bus heading up the way to my house.

my mom and brother can tell im fuckin out of it and i was already yammering about losing my phone. i set my apple-id password to something stupid and couldn't get it to resolve and locked myself out from tries, now currently being locked out by Apple Tech and the reset and will be done in 15 hrs.

some lessons of the story, always password your phone (mine is) ((especially if you've got sketchy stuff on there) and know how the recovery method / passwords work if it comes to that

i've also got myself logged out of creditcard / instagram info so could be a lot worse, i honestly think i just dropped it somewhere along the way from the bus stations, all lost and founds are on holiday at the moment

i hope a christmas miracle happens upon me i'd be soo happy

happy holidays yall post any holiday hijinx story of your own
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Ernest Suffingsure - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 15:24:55 EST M/PQpJj4 No.147997 Reply
>>147996
oh and one very important point, at the start i popped originally 4 or 5 MAX, and when i looked the next day I had 20. out of a total of 50. I've heard a million times about redosing but that has NEVER happened to me, i chalk it up to having more experience now that it has happened to me, trying to look on the positive side of things lol. i was literally black out for 1.5 days from xans
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Shit Padgesudge - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:23:53 EST Jg0qvSwk No.147998 Reply
Well it sounded like it could of been a lot worse for you. This is another reason why I don't like taking street pills because I feel that 90% of the time its probably pressed and mixed with random research chems, I'm glad my connect has legit pharma. Had something similar happen to me, bought 10 bars one afternoon ate one and got mad cause I though it was fake because it had no taste and were hard as a rock. I waited a bit to see if I was wrong but nothing to I ate another one for the hell of it. Kinda browned out, I remember going home to smoke but after that next thing I remember was trying to hang Christmas lights up in my room in the summer time at like midnight then giving up. Woke up the next morning with my mom asking what the fuck I was on last night cause apparently I was fucking plastered according to her. I hid the pills on myself too I found some of them in an old hiding spot I used in my room but stopped using years before this happened and I didn't find the other half until a few days later when I was at the bank and they were in a baggie folded up and tucked away in my wallet, but there was still 2 missing and I assumed I just ate them while fucked up. Had no idea what was in those pills and why I got so fucked up and I didn't even feel like taking them anymore because of that and ended up re-selling them to someone.

Canada Etiz

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- Fri, 13 Dec 2019 03:59:28 EST hp890J15 No.147899
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Hey /benz/,anyone else still waiting on their etizolam from a certain vendor that was supposed to go out on the 9th? Usually get a tracking number before now and getting kind of worried...
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Alice Chubberhall - Sat, 14 Dec 2019 06:40:21 EST RbGq1s9o No.147913 Reply
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>>147911
I've had etiz not come through OP. Your best bet is to have a week out of work and in bed. Call it sick, or whatever you need. Seizures usually manifest (in my case) about 9 days after cessation. They vary as well of course, but it's nice to have some time off if you're having to go without.

Keep in mind this was a 1mg every 3 days situation and was also paired with phenibut and alcoholism. It was a huge drain on the Gaba receptors and since quitting the phenibut I've not had any more seizures even though I've stopped etiz for a month or more at a time.

Good luck to you. I'm going to have to meet my maker eventually, but I bought enough Etiz solution to last for a few more years at least before it became illegal in my state. I was a recent ban state and somehow got more in this early this year before the actual bans took place.
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Rebecca Pittdale - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 19:29:59 EST 1LOXYZsr No.147933 Reply
Have you heard anything back from them?
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Charles Blatherstone - Tue, 24 Dec 2019 21:58:48 EST PbGh37wu No.147988 Reply
>>147899

every since i got ripped off for over a hundred bucks by some chinese jolly african-americans im done with the rc benzo scene clearnet anyway. dark web only for me, baby.
theres not even a scene to speak of any more, there are no forums and circlestallion roddit has been dissolved as well. any google searches lead to scams , my interwebs be a fuckin mess ayy
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