Benzos > Alcohol View Thread Reply Hide Cookie Monster - Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:39:45 EST 19NEnDmG No.145149 File: 1553539185092.jpg -(126350B / 123.39KB, 2048x1025) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why are benzos so much cleaner than alcohol?Is it just me?Even other Gaba stuff like Phenibut is beyond comparison imho 21 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 23 May 2019 16:49:23 EST I6YS7H0F No.145908 Reply >>145906smh? Is that an acronym for “sharing musical heroin” or “shaming my hard-on,” or something similar? I honestly cannot keep up with the kids these days. nb >> Polly Fallykore - Fri, 24 May 2019 02:25:57 EST dlLcl2tJ No.145919 Reply >>145897I won't cos they're not. They're GABAa Positive Allosteric Modulators. >> Oliver Sinningstuck - Fri, 24 May 2019 14:33:54 EST 0AkEDOL3 No.145924 Reply 1558722834576.jpg -(23520B / 22.97KB, 594x670) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>145285Agree, alcohol is more recreational and enjoyable. Benzos affect your memory bad too and you can be very delusional about your own sobriety.>>145396 Safe in the right doses, If you do mix it with other downer or tend to redose or drink alcohol they can be he fucking devil. Overuse of benzos is terrible for your memory, and you look like a cool zombie, pretty dangerous too. You are just a pussy.>>145403You have a wide range of prices and alot of drinks to choose, it doesn´t all taste like shit. It can be relaxing, fun, nostalgic and it is a great way to socialize with other people. Grow up? I get it that you don´t like it but you seem mad at alcohol. Is your father an alcoholic or something?
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 23 May 2019 16:49:23 EST I6YS7H0F No.145908 Reply >>145906smh? Is that an acronym for “sharing musical heroin” or “shaming my hard-on,” or something similar? I honestly cannot keep up with the kids these days. nb
>> Polly Fallykore - Fri, 24 May 2019 02:25:57 EST dlLcl2tJ No.145919 Reply >>145897I won't cos they're not. They're GABAa Positive Allosteric Modulators.
>> Oliver Sinningstuck - Fri, 24 May 2019 14:33:54 EST 0AkEDOL3 No.145924 Reply 1558722834576.jpg -(23520B / 22.97KB, 594x670) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>145285Agree, alcohol is more recreational and enjoyable. Benzos affect your memory bad too and you can be very delusional about your own sobriety.>>145396 Safe in the right doses, If you do mix it with other downer or tend to redose or drink alcohol they can be he fucking devil. Overuse of benzos is terrible for your memory, and you look like a cool zombie, pretty dangerous too. You are just a pussy.>>145403You have a wide range of prices and alot of drinks to choose, it doesn´t all taste like shit. It can be relaxing, fun, nostalgic and it is a great way to socialize with other people. Grow up? I get it that you don´t like it but you seem mad at alcohol. Is your father an alcoholic or something?
Valium Question View Thread Reply Hide Krusty Schnozz - Thu, 23 May 2019 08:57:07 EST NnV3nNzr No.145899 File: 1558616227001.jpg -(9427B / 9.21KB, 288x216) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hi guys i never use any kind of benzos ever so i have never posted here before.Today my father gave me three 5mgs of Valium.My question about these tablets- is it better to hold them under your tongue or just swallow them, i understand Valium has a high oral bioavailability so does sublingual make them work waster or what? 4 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> George Mockleforth - Thu, 23 May 2019 09:52:08 EST jING6INF No.145904 Reply >>145903I wasn't attacking you or anything, just to be clear. Was just curious. Have fun with them! >> Krusty Schnozz - Thu, 23 May 2019 11:18:03 EST NnV3nNzr No.145905 Reply >>145904Cool my man and its more to actually sleep rather for fun I've got 3 early shifts this weekend uggh i always get such shit sleep the first two days of work. hopefully one yellow and a joint will get me chilling soon (took one now) . peace out >> Phineas Demmermat - Fri, 24 May 2019 00:11:30 EST iRhZTrrm No.145918 Reply >>145905Yea, 5 mgs should quite fine for sleep, I think on it's own. You may find yourself kinda high all-in-all. Just think, relaxing and sleep.
>> George Mockleforth - Thu, 23 May 2019 09:52:08 EST jING6INF No.145904 Reply >>145903I wasn't attacking you or anything, just to be clear. Was just curious. Have fun with them!
>> Krusty Schnozz - Thu, 23 May 2019 11:18:03 EST NnV3nNzr No.145905 Reply >>145904Cool my man and its more to actually sleep rather for fun I've got 3 early shifts this weekend uggh i always get such shit sleep the first two days of work. hopefully one yellow and a joint will get me chilling soon (took one now) . peace out
>> Phineas Demmermat - Fri, 24 May 2019 00:11:30 EST iRhZTrrm No.145918 Reply >>145905Yea, 5 mgs should quite fine for sleep, I think on it's own. You may find yourself kinda high all-in-all. Just think, relaxing and sleep.
Clonazepam View Thread Reply Hide Lydia Clecklefig - Wed, 08 May 2019 14:12:33 EST CtLgnzQP No.145693 File: 1557339153406.jpg -(2957476B / 2.82MB, 4160x3120) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I'm prescribed 2mg clonazepam and 900mg lyrica/pregabalin.I have looked all over to find some sort of dosage i could compare it to, as I have a long long history of benzos unprescribed both rc and official in the UK - yet not prescribed.Can anyone give me any insight on clonazepam as I have been on this dose over a year and would like to compare it somehow to other benzos in terms of dose and effect. Thanks 4 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Beatrice Blatherstone - Fri, 17 May 2019 05:45:27 EST /PjPUQIT No.145819 Reply >>145812Lol, I meant information sources, not plugs. Xanax is almost always pricier than clonaz $ for $ from what I've seen. I prefer clonaz personally but I tend to agree there's no chance it's 2x the strength. I guess if it's for tapering it's better for preventing seizures so it may be that 1mg substitutes safely foe 2mg of alprazolam especially with the longer half-life >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 18 May 2019 04:30:24 EST I6YS7H0F No.145829 Reply >>145143>>145812Ugh. I meant 2mg clonazepam = 4mg alprazolam in some instances. Fuck, I was way too drunk last night. nb >> Lillian Grandforth - Wed, 22 May 2019 05:34:41 EST QGOi4Zel No.145890 Reply >>145693Mate what did you get it prescribed for if you dont mind me asking? Im also on pregabalin
>> Beatrice Blatherstone - Fri, 17 May 2019 05:45:27 EST /PjPUQIT No.145819 Reply >>145812Lol, I meant information sources, not plugs. Xanax is almost always pricier than clonaz $ for $ from what I've seen. I prefer clonaz personally but I tend to agree there's no chance it's 2x the strength. I guess if it's for tapering it's better for preventing seizures so it may be that 1mg substitutes safely foe 2mg of alprazolam especially with the longer half-life
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 18 May 2019 04:30:24 EST I6YS7H0F No.145829 Reply >>145143>>145812Ugh. I meant 2mg clonazepam = 4mg alprazolam in some instances. Fuck, I was way too drunk last night. nb
>> Lillian Grandforth - Wed, 22 May 2019 05:34:41 EST QGOi4Zel No.145890 Reply >>145693Mate what did you get it prescribed for if you dont mind me asking? Im also on pregabalin
tapered down to 0, day 1 View Thread Reply Hide Nigel Billingstock - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:20:25 EST qpEvTDXx No.145753 File: 1557796825020.gif -(499534B / 487.83KB, 500x355) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hey all, I was on xanax heavily for 2 years until I got the courage to quit, In the last two months I've tappered down to 5mg valium a day and today is the first day without any xanax or valium. I'm scared for the following days because I have some shit to do (doctors, dentists), how brutal do you think the withdrawals will be? so far it's not been terrible, but the thought of being completely sober again scares me incase I have a panic attack or something. Thanks for listening 5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Angus Sonderfidging - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:20:16 EST PilUNTIt No.145861 Reply >>145855Missed a chance to say "never get up! trust your instincts!"nb >> Walter Wibbleway - Mon, 20 May 2019 18:13:01 EST O686UguH No.145865 Reply >>145855SSRIs and therapy are much better choices in the long run. That is, if you want to get rid of anxiety and not just get high. >> Matilda Blicklespear - Sat, 25 May 2019 00:44:46 EST 54xbZbpH No.145929 Reply >>145865>not using based eastern drugs with less side effects and less potnetial of addiction.
>> Angus Sonderfidging - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:20:16 EST PilUNTIt No.145861 Reply >>145855Missed a chance to say "never get up! trust your instincts!"nb
>> Walter Wibbleway - Mon, 20 May 2019 18:13:01 EST O686UguH No.145865 Reply >>145855SSRIs and therapy are much better choices in the long run. That is, if you want to get rid of anxiety and not just get high.
>> Matilda Blicklespear - Sat, 25 May 2019 00:44:46 EST 54xbZbpH No.145929 Reply >>145865>not using based eastern drugs with less side effects and less potnetial of addiction.
Benzo RX View Thread Reply Hide Ebenezer Sundlebat - Sun, 10 Mar 2019 07:04:04 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.144971 File: 1552215844811.jpg -(115014B / 112.32KB, 850x1218) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How do you guys get benzos? I have panic attacks a few times a week, cant fucking go out in public without being hyper vigilant, and avoid certain things altogether...I tell the shrink this, but she just keeps upping my prazosin does because all my issues stem from PTDS.Wtf. 62 posts and 11 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Wesley Bucklestudge - Mon, 20 May 2019 01:11:58 EST 86LjTa31 No.145848 Reply >>145846Man, I feel like I need to go back to the psych ward because I really want to fucking off myself, but being at the psych ward made me want to off myself even more. It's like a prison where you get to mingle with people you want nothing to do with. So fucking boring. I took showers for entertainment. The only good thing to come out of my time there was I found my current psychiatrist through it, who's a pretty cool dude. >> Angus Sonderfidging - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:00:22 EST PilUNTIt No.145858 Reply >>145846>then i spent the boringest week ever at the psych ward.I know that feeling. Had a benzo w/d when I was about 23, got arrested (lel) and spent 30 days in a psyche wards lockdown unit (naked in a cell with nothing. lol have fun staring at the wall) >> Angus Sonderfidging - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:02:22 EST PilUNTIt No.145859 Reply >>145848I know the feeling all to well. Plus I feel like they never RX shit in there that works. Just massive amounts of Seroquel and other dumb shit.
>> Wesley Bucklestudge - Mon, 20 May 2019 01:11:58 EST 86LjTa31 No.145848 Reply >>145846Man, I feel like I need to go back to the psych ward because I really want to fucking off myself, but being at the psych ward made me want to off myself even more. It's like a prison where you get to mingle with people you want nothing to do with. So fucking boring. I took showers for entertainment. The only good thing to come out of my time there was I found my current psychiatrist through it, who's a pretty cool dude.
>> Angus Sonderfidging - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:00:22 EST PilUNTIt No.145858 Reply >>145846>then i spent the boringest week ever at the psych ward.I know that feeling. Had a benzo w/d when I was about 23, got arrested (lel) and spent 30 days in a psyche wards lockdown unit (naked in a cell with nothing. lol have fun staring at the wall)
>> Angus Sonderfidging - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:02:22 EST PilUNTIt No.145859 Reply >>145848I know the feeling all to well. Plus I feel like they never RX shit in there that works. Just massive amounts of Seroquel and other dumb shit.
cLam withdrawal View Thread Reply Hide Doris Greendock - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 21:11:52 EST FBN91bNM No.145486 File: 1555981912870.png -(29331B / 28.64KB, 504x504) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Ok yeah lets skip the part where you call me a retard ( i know i am ) and the part where this same thread has been made a million times....I've had cLam withdrawaal before, its fucking awful i know, but it was highish dose very short term.I've been using cLam erryday for like 4 months, started low now im at about 1mg a day to stay sane and sometimes 1.5 a day if i wanna actually feel fucked up. I dont take my doses all at once, i take like 4 "smaller" ones throughout the day that add up to 1-1.5mg. I tried to taper a few weeks ago and got down to like 750ug a day for like a week but it was hell so i went back up, but i dropped my dose v abruptlyI think im capable of tapering the hard part is just keeping track of how much ive taken. Do i just have to go all in and taper or is there an easy way out like opis where i can just switch to something else for a while then stop cold turkey?also if i were to stop cold turkey at this point (1mg a day roughly) how fucked would i be? 20 posts and 3 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Betsy Fusslegold - Sun, 05 May 2019 10:23:06 EST /cALzLNN No.145659 Reply >>145650Thanks for the advice, thing i was trying to explain is its hard to dose at specific time dude ti my eratic schedule. I can probably lower my dose more than 50 or 75 in a week and be fine. My first attempt at a taper i actually cut my dose down to 2/3 of the original (so 1mg instead of 1.5) for abiut a week, and the wd sucked but it would have been tolerabke if i didnt just start a manual labor job. I get bad muscle pain in wd.Also before i decided to taper i switched to pyrazolam for abiut 2 days and noticed like no ill effects. My plan was to do what someone earlier in the thread said and taper down to like half my dose then switch to diclaz. Im not going to a doctor for a script, i dont want benzo addict on my file. Another reason im not going to a doctor is cause if i cant taper withkut a script, i know i dont have enough self control to be successful. At that ppint id probably try to do in inpatient detox. Tell em im addicted to xanax or some shit. Ive alwYs thought that sounded awful and they dont give you enough but if i can detox in a temptation free environment i think i can avoid this happening again lol. I know someone who actually said and inpatient detox helped him a lot. Some people say theyre just asses there tho. Idk its a tough journey and im just making it worse by not taking it seriously enough. Ive reduced my dose by a pitance over the time i made this thread. I got a very nice strong strain of kratom makes it much easier to not tempt me with more benz than i need. >> Hugh Wengerworth - Tue, 07 May 2019 17:36:01 EST ro1dEkXg No.145681 Reply >>145486Not 100% on topic but has anyone tried flumazenil for benzo withdrawal? The few studies I have seen seem very promising.From Wikipedia:"In Italy, the gold standard for treatment of high-dose benzodiazepine dependency is 8–10 days of low-dose, slowly infused flumazenil.[12] One addiction treatment centre in Italy has used flumazenil to treat over 300 patients who were dependent on high doses of benzodiazepines (up to 70 times higher than conventionally prescribed)"Enhancement of benzodiazepine binding sites following chronic treatment with flumazenilhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014299904013536?via%3DihubChronic exposure of cells expressing recombinant GABAA receptors to benzodiazepine antagonist flumazenil enhances the maximum number of benzodiazepine binding siteshttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0024320504008148?via%3DihubReduction of aggression during benzodiazepine withdrawal: Effects of flumazenilhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305710001310?via%3Dihub >> Killington - Mon, 20 May 2019 00:59:36 EST xzRLJAId No.145847 Reply Ok so digging up my old threadcause i fucked up and got into a pickle. I overestimated the amount of c-lam i had left by a rather substantial amount, (i needed to get more to taper anyway)But ive had good progress tapering actually slowly but surely and now im out of c-lam basically, have like a half a day left.I've been supplementing it with pyrazolam which i have an ok amount but i didnt wanna have to do that cause pyrazolam is wack but its the only thing keeping me ok atm. i did some substantial calculations to keep me on the same level to try to not fuck up my taper but if my pack doesnt land tomorrow im in dire straights, even if it does the only thing i could get quickly enough is a much higher ration than i used before and its gonna severely fuck my dosing schedule which ive been keeping track of every dose and time for over a week now.my old concentration was 3mg/ml which with numerous drop tests and measuring was 75ug a drop, this new stuff, provided its in PG only should be around 125ug drop which is gonna fuck me up in terms of dose calcualtion. i dont even know where to get food grade PG other than the internet i guess so i wont be able to dilute it immediately, anyone have advice???I'll b doing more drop tests with this new batch to make sure it really is 125ug per gtt but i believe thats what it'll be.
>> Betsy Fusslegold - Sun, 05 May 2019 10:23:06 EST /cALzLNN No.145659 Reply >>145650Thanks for the advice, thing i was trying to explain is its hard to dose at specific time dude ti my eratic schedule. I can probably lower my dose more than 50 or 75 in a week and be fine. My first attempt at a taper i actually cut my dose down to 2/3 of the original (so 1mg instead of 1.5) for abiut a week, and the wd sucked but it would have been tolerabke if i didnt just start a manual labor job. I get bad muscle pain in wd.Also before i decided to taper i switched to pyrazolam for abiut 2 days and noticed like no ill effects. My plan was to do what someone earlier in the thread said and taper down to like half my dose then switch to diclaz. Im not going to a doctor for a script, i dont want benzo addict on my file. Another reason im not going to a doctor is cause if i cant taper withkut a script, i know i dont have enough self control to be successful. At that ppint id probably try to do in inpatient detox. Tell em im addicted to xanax or some shit. Ive alwYs thought that sounded awful and they dont give you enough but if i can detox in a temptation free environment i think i can avoid this happening again lol. I know someone who actually said and inpatient detox helped him a lot. Some people say theyre just asses there tho. Idk its a tough journey and im just making it worse by not taking it seriously enough. Ive reduced my dose by a pitance over the time i made this thread. I got a very nice strong strain of kratom makes it much easier to not tempt me with more benz than i need.
>> Hugh Wengerworth - Tue, 07 May 2019 17:36:01 EST ro1dEkXg No.145681 Reply >>145486Not 100% on topic but has anyone tried flumazenil for benzo withdrawal? The few studies I have seen seem very promising.From Wikipedia:"In Italy, the gold standard for treatment of high-dose benzodiazepine dependency is 8–10 days of low-dose, slowly infused flumazenil.[12] One addiction treatment centre in Italy has used flumazenil to treat over 300 patients who were dependent on high doses of benzodiazepines (up to 70 times higher than conventionally prescribed)"Enhancement of benzodiazepine binding sites following chronic treatment with flumazenilhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014299904013536?via%3DihubChronic exposure of cells expressing recombinant GABAA receptors to benzodiazepine antagonist flumazenil enhances the maximum number of benzodiazepine binding siteshttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0024320504008148?via%3DihubReduction of aggression during benzodiazepine withdrawal: Effects of flumazenilhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305710001310?via%3Dihub
>> Killington - Mon, 20 May 2019 00:59:36 EST xzRLJAId No.145847 Reply Ok so digging up my old threadcause i fucked up and got into a pickle. I overestimated the amount of c-lam i had left by a rather substantial amount, (i needed to get more to taper anyway)But ive had good progress tapering actually slowly but surely and now im out of c-lam basically, have like a half a day left.I've been supplementing it with pyrazolam which i have an ok amount but i didnt wanna have to do that cause pyrazolam is wack but its the only thing keeping me ok atm. i did some substantial calculations to keep me on the same level to try to not fuck up my taper but if my pack doesnt land tomorrow im in dire straights, even if it does the only thing i could get quickly enough is a much higher ration than i used before and its gonna severely fuck my dosing schedule which ive been keeping track of every dose and time for over a week now.my old concentration was 3mg/ml which with numerous drop tests and measuring was 75ug a drop, this new stuff, provided its in PG only should be around 125ug drop which is gonna fuck me up in terms of dose calcualtion. i dont even know where to get food grade PG other than the internet i guess so i wont be able to dilute it immediately, anyone have advice???I'll b doing more drop tests with this new batch to make sure it really is 125ug per gtt but i believe thats what it'll be.
Snorting Benzos View Thread Reply Hide Alice Sezzledale - Wed, 15 May 2019 07:19:42 EST uwCIaKNT No.145771 File: 1557919182091.jpg -(53499B / 52.25KB, 564x565) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hi /Benz/ folks.So, I've started to take benzos (mainly xanax and valium) from time to time for about two months.A friend of mine who has more experience on drug use told me that it kicks you quicker snorting it, but I'm not sure if this (appart from damaging my nose) could make it lose part of it's bioavailability.So my question is if it's really worth it snorting them.Thanks! 3 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> uicgiufy - Fri, 17 May 2019 11:16:53 EST SGq/UXT1 No.145821 Reply >>145771i once used to crush benzos in water and drink it quicklyit gave a huge rush >> William Clorringway - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:49:46 EST PilUNTIt No.145839 Reply >>145771So many retards think snorting anything (or even shooting it) gives a better rush.Saw a bunch of retards in prison shoot up phendimetrazine that was smuggled in (amp. based diet pills) and then proceed to complain about the worst headache on the planet and chest pains for hours. lol >> High Strung - Sun, 19 May 2019 19:45:23 EST VPU/mRFL No.145842 Reply OP is probably b8-ing but for anyone lurking who's curious in good faith, I snorted my alprazolam once when I was first prescribed benzos. Didn't do a damn thing. Best to do what >>145821 did and drink it crushed up in a drink (if you must... bleh!)NB though cuz probably troll
>> uicgiufy - Fri, 17 May 2019 11:16:53 EST SGq/UXT1 No.145821 Reply >>145771i once used to crush benzos in water and drink it quicklyit gave a huge rush
>> William Clorringway - Sat, 18 May 2019 20:49:46 EST PilUNTIt No.145839 Reply >>145771So many retards think snorting anything (or even shooting it) gives a better rush.Saw a bunch of retards in prison shoot up phendimetrazine that was smuggled in (amp. based diet pills) and then proceed to complain about the worst headache on the planet and chest pains for hours. lol
>> High Strung - Sun, 19 May 2019 19:45:23 EST VPU/mRFL No.145842 Reply OP is probably b8-ing but for anyone lurking who's curious in good faith, I snorted my alprazolam once when I was first prescribed benzos. Didn't do a damn thing. Best to do what >>145821 did and drink it crushed up in a drink (if you must... bleh!)NB though cuz probably troll
1,4 butanediol View Thread Reply Hide Ebenezer Gonkinfield - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 00:49:53 EST JtaTLcg6 No.145570 File: 1556513393637.png -(463B / 463bytes, 400x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Just ordered my first batch today.. Over the past decade I've dabbed with a lot of alprazolam, clonazepam, etizolam, clonazolam and some others, but never GHB. Planning to use a 1 mL pipette to dose. What should I expect, realistically? Hoping for a nice lift from my anxiety, but am concerned about compulsive redosing, not to mention my liver.tl;dr thoughts/advice on 1,4 butanediol? 5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Hugh Blankinfuck - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:29:03 EST qAPo6Hr7 No.145772 Reply IIRC, went through 250ml of it in about a week or so earlier this year. Was taking it around the clock with no 'real' sleep, just 1-2 hour naps separating the doses. Had a seizure whilst trying to get to sleep one night. Felt horrible pain (I think mostly due to a skin condition) whenever there wasn't enough in my system. So throughout the day 30ml+ of the stuff. I felt brain dead. Real shitty week and don't plan on using it again due to lack of self control. Still prefer it over GHB as GHB causes me to blackout or fall unconscious even if I'm 99% sure that I won't. Last time I used GHB I fell unconscious on the couch on my way to turn off the fire alarm. GHB also gives me sleep paralysis whereas 1,4 does not. >> Molly Senderheck - Fri, 17 May 2019 07:15:42 EST 9uoHs3LF No.145820 Reply >>145772That's crazy, I only get to the point of passing out when I'm at the end of the night and have been gradually dosing up to 2 or 3g GHB. Combining it with benzos is a big no-no, I've never done it myself but a friend of a friend went into hospital from a small amount of G (can't have been more than 1.5g) and taking his normal prescribed dose of diaz that morning. Did you take it alongside other GABAergics?As for the sleep paralysis,Taken from wikipedia: "GHB's effect on dopamine release is biphasic. Low concentrations stimulate dopamine release via the GHB receptor. Higher concentrations inhibit dopamine release via GABA(B) receptors as do other GABA(B) agonists such as baclofen and phenibut." "...This explains the paradoxical mix of sedative and stimulatory properties of GHB, as well as the so-called "rebound" effect, experienced by individuals using GHB as a sleeping agent, wherein they awake suddenly after several hours of GHB-induced deep sleep. That is to say that, over time, the concentration of GHB in the system decreases below the threshold for significant GABAB receptor activation and activates predominantly the GHB receptor, leading to wakefulness. "Anyway, back on topic. I have not tried 1,4bd but would definitely like to one day. These non benzo sedatives are a little bit different so ime it's better to start small and adhere to different harm reduction practices than your usual benzo routine. >> Dextrolord - Sat, 18 May 2019 12:50:34 EST mmnM7dPE No.145836 Reply 1558198234709.jpg -(65669B / 64.13KB, 800x696) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>145570I really loved my 1,4bee it was like being drunk and slightly barred out but with no hangover.Stuff is super potent tho and can be dangerous so I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who won't do their research and use it responsibly cuz like u said, hospital for 4 days and even deatch is a real possibility with this one.But I loved it, probly will buy it again, and the worst I ever had happen was I passed out from dosing like up to a ml too much and woke up feeling extremely well rested the next morning
>> Hugh Blankinfuck - Wed, 15 May 2019 08:29:03 EST qAPo6Hr7 No.145772 Reply IIRC, went through 250ml of it in about a week or so earlier this year. Was taking it around the clock with no 'real' sleep, just 1-2 hour naps separating the doses. Had a seizure whilst trying to get to sleep one night. Felt horrible pain (I think mostly due to a skin condition) whenever there wasn't enough in my system. So throughout the day 30ml+ of the stuff. I felt brain dead. Real shitty week and don't plan on using it again due to lack of self control. Still prefer it over GHB as GHB causes me to blackout or fall unconscious even if I'm 99% sure that I won't. Last time I used GHB I fell unconscious on the couch on my way to turn off the fire alarm. GHB also gives me sleep paralysis whereas 1,4 does not.
>> Molly Senderheck - Fri, 17 May 2019 07:15:42 EST 9uoHs3LF No.145820 Reply >>145772That's crazy, I only get to the point of passing out when I'm at the end of the night and have been gradually dosing up to 2 or 3g GHB. Combining it with benzos is a big no-no, I've never done it myself but a friend of a friend went into hospital from a small amount of G (can't have been more than 1.5g) and taking his normal prescribed dose of diaz that morning. Did you take it alongside other GABAergics?As for the sleep paralysis,Taken from wikipedia: "GHB's effect on dopamine release is biphasic. Low concentrations stimulate dopamine release via the GHB receptor. Higher concentrations inhibit dopamine release via GABA(B) receptors as do other GABA(B) agonists such as baclofen and phenibut." "...This explains the paradoxical mix of sedative and stimulatory properties of GHB, as well as the so-called "rebound" effect, experienced by individuals using GHB as a sleeping agent, wherein they awake suddenly after several hours of GHB-induced deep sleep. That is to say that, over time, the concentration of GHB in the system decreases below the threshold for significant GABAB receptor activation and activates predominantly the GHB receptor, leading to wakefulness. "Anyway, back on topic. I have not tried 1,4bd but would definitely like to one day. These non benzo sedatives are a little bit different so ime it's better to start small and adhere to different harm reduction practices than your usual benzo routine.
>> Dextrolord - Sat, 18 May 2019 12:50:34 EST mmnM7dPE No.145836 Reply 1558198234709.jpg -(65669B / 64.13KB, 800x696) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>145570I really loved my 1,4bee it was like being drunk and slightly barred out but with no hangover.Stuff is super potent tho and can be dangerous so I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who won't do their research and use it responsibly cuz like u said, hospital for 4 days and even deatch is a real possibility with this one.But I loved it, probly will buy it again, and the worst I ever had happen was I passed out from dosing like up to a ml too much and woke up feeling extremely well rested the next morning
Primidone View Thread Reply Hide Ebenezer Mobberstone - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:25:27 EST 2Ljebzrq No.145791 File: 1558031127499.jpg -(74004B / 72.27KB, 1000x1000) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hypothetically How much primidone and alcohol would it take to kill someone assuming 0 tolerance 5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Eliza Billingwater - Fri, 17 May 2019 04:08:02 EST qU1akP2Z No.145813 Reply >>145796Right, but my point is still valid. Also I've been around people who were close to dying due to mix of depressants and they were scared shitless. It's not like you just fall asleep peacefully and don't wake up. It will be a horrible experience and chances are, you will survive with trauma and some brain damage. Don't do.that to yourself man, please. >> Wesley Dendlecocke - Fri, 17 May 2019 18:56:22 EST dQSms3tR No.145823 Reply 1558133782505.jpg -(57543B / 56.19KB, 674x619) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I took a nap and feel betterEx got in a relationship and found the strength to tell me she hated me right after I told her I wanted to go to rehab >> Edwin Dibbermun - Fri, 17 May 2019 19:43:56 EST 86LjTa31 No.145824 Reply >>145823Cool mannb
>> Eliza Billingwater - Fri, 17 May 2019 04:08:02 EST qU1akP2Z No.145813 Reply >>145796Right, but my point is still valid. Also I've been around people who were close to dying due to mix of depressants and they were scared shitless. It's not like you just fall asleep peacefully and don't wake up. It will be a horrible experience and chances are, you will survive with trauma and some brain damage. Don't do.that to yourself man, please.
>> Wesley Dendlecocke - Fri, 17 May 2019 18:56:22 EST dQSms3tR No.145823 Reply 1558133782505.jpg -(57543B / 56.19KB, 674x619) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I took a nap and feel betterEx got in a relationship and found the strength to tell me she hated me right after I told her I wanted to go to rehab
benz and opiates withdrawals View Thread Reply Hide Jenny Pablinglotch - Sat, 04 May 2019 12:06:21 EST vOsfieF9 No.145643 File: 1556985981110.png -(881178B / 860.53KB, 901x1208) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. hey /benz//opi/ user here with a few questions for y'all. I don't really have a history of benz abuse, never really felt that pull, the extent of my experience with benz has been using it here and there to knock myself the fuck out and go to bed on nights when I had something important to do the next day and couldn't fall asleep. The time has come for me to kick a cold turkey opiate habit after multiple years of daily use and I've been thinking of using some kind of benz to make it easier on myself. Here's the question- how long can I take benzos before the physical addiction steps in? Really have no idea how this shit works. Will using it every night for 7-10 days to put myself to sleep get me physically addicted? If not, what about twice or thrice a day (morning / night, or morning / lunch / night) for 7-10 days? I'm not worried about mental addiction, never really liked the way benzos made me feel, but I don't need to become physically addicted to yet another drug. Help me out guys, will I be safe using this shit for a few days in a row? Planning on either scoring some xanax or just buying some etz. 6 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Ian Cremblelod - Wed, 08 May 2019 07:47:17 EST q2qSLk2C No.145689 Reply >>145680If you don't manage to sleep right away eating like 2 days of regular meals is pretty easy to do. It would even out eventually. I have woken up multiple times in the night and just like a eating zombie just eat. Intersting thing about mirtazapine, It can make you sleep really heavy, but waking up after like 4 5 hours of sleep is like wakeful refreshed energy. So i made my wake up at 6 and sleep by 10:30 pm. Oh well, better than awake till 6 am then sleep to near evening. I do or did like the eating part, kinda slim as it is. And being able to love food again. >> Betsy Mobbersit - Mon, 13 May 2019 17:06:21 EST 6BwBby0d No.145748 Reply 1557781581698.jpg -(179804B / 175.59KB, 646x583) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>145689Yeh I always need a sandwich or 2 after taking mitazpine >> Cedric Neshtig - Tue, 14 May 2019 03:38:17 EST Gp16F2fI No.145759 Reply >>145643With benzodiazepines you generally have two weeks of use before you start to develop a nasty dependency IIRC
>> Ian Cremblelod - Wed, 08 May 2019 07:47:17 EST q2qSLk2C No.145689 Reply >>145680If you don't manage to sleep right away eating like 2 days of regular meals is pretty easy to do. It would even out eventually. I have woken up multiple times in the night and just like a eating zombie just eat. Intersting thing about mirtazapine, It can make you sleep really heavy, but waking up after like 4 5 hours of sleep is like wakeful refreshed energy. So i made my wake up at 6 and sleep by 10:30 pm. Oh well, better than awake till 6 am then sleep to near evening. I do or did like the eating part, kinda slim as it is. And being able to love food again.
>> Betsy Mobbersit - Mon, 13 May 2019 17:06:21 EST 6BwBby0d No.145748 Reply 1557781581698.jpg -(179804B / 175.59KB, 646x583) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>145689Yeh I always need a sandwich or 2 after taking mitazpine
>> Cedric Neshtig - Tue, 14 May 2019 03:38:17 EST Gp16F2fI No.145759 Reply >>145643With benzodiazepines you generally have two weeks of use before you start to develop a nasty dependency IIRC
clonazepam View Thread Reply Hide Martha Toothall - Sun, 12 May 2019 14:58:41 EST YOe68m2X No.145732 File: 1557687521492.gif -(21526B / 21.02KB, 305x354) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. First time trying benzos, got some kpins and have taken them 3 days in a row now. I have pretty servere anxiety but this isn't from a prescription. I've heard the withdrawals are hellish and full of anxiety, which I'm really afraid of. How much should I limit myself so I don't get addicted or experience anything negative when I run out? >> lol - Sun, 12 May 2019 16:08:48 EST xQEqVS9+ No.145733 Reply >>145732Unless you bought hundreds whatever small amount you have won't lead to the kind of WD you hear people talking about. Worst I've had from a week or two of daily benz use is rebound anxiety. You should be fine. Just try not to take them unless you feel you really need to >> Hannah Snodbanks - Sun, 12 May 2019 16:38:16 EST 86LjTa31 No.145734 Reply >>145732With the extremely limited information you gave us it's hard to say, really. But yes, real benzo withdrawal is one of the the worst you can go through. Went through it myself about a month ago and still recovering from it. Don't get to that point.See a doctor if you legitmately have anxiety, don't rely on the street to treat your ailments. >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 12 May 2019 22:16:59 EST I6YS7H0F No.145737 Reply >>145732Anything over 2-4 weeks of daily usage is considered long-term. The Ashton Manual indicates physical addiction, which will lead to significant withdrawal upon abrupt discontinuation, occurs after 6-26 weeks of daily usage.
>> lol - Sun, 12 May 2019 16:08:48 EST xQEqVS9+ No.145733 Reply >>145732Unless you bought hundreds whatever small amount you have won't lead to the kind of WD you hear people talking about. Worst I've had from a week or two of daily benz use is rebound anxiety. You should be fine. Just try not to take them unless you feel you really need to
>> Hannah Snodbanks - Sun, 12 May 2019 16:38:16 EST 86LjTa31 No.145734 Reply >>145732With the extremely limited information you gave us it's hard to say, really. But yes, real benzo withdrawal is one of the the worst you can go through. Went through it myself about a month ago and still recovering from it. Don't get to that point.See a doctor if you legitmately have anxiety, don't rely on the street to treat your ailments.
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 12 May 2019 22:16:59 EST I6YS7H0F No.145737 Reply >>145732Anything over 2-4 weeks of daily usage is considered long-term. The Ashton Manual indicates physical addiction, which will lead to significant withdrawal upon abrupt discontinuation, occurs after 6-26 weeks of daily usage.
gabapentin View Thread Reply Hide Henry Bardson - Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:52:12 EST JuZ7s587 No.144727 File: 1544770332725.jpg -(14707B / 14.36KB, 300x300) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. So quick post. Is this shit addictive? Because I post here from finding it works on the gaba. 19 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Ernest Fucklelock - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 05:58:24 EST 4KRku3x0 No.145560 Reply yeah, but the intensity of the wds is very variable between people depending on genetics dose and how long they took it forlyrica is the same, I have a script for 250 mg per day and can stop taking it anytime without any wds.... i dropped down to 75 mg per day because the therapeutic effect is the same an I trade the rest for gbl and nitrazepam >> Jarvis Bammlefitch - Wed, 01 May 2019 16:36:52 EST dlLcl2tJ No.145596 Reply >>144727It does not, it does not work on the gaba.Nb >> Ian Brullerbury - Sun, 05 May 2019 02:54:06 EST /I1Ld4ID No.145657 Reply Pregabalin tolerance seems to last a long time, definitely not 1 week to return to zero, at least 2 weeks it seems, but probably even 3 or 4. This is from using 150mg-300mg once a week.
>> Ernest Fucklelock - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 05:58:24 EST 4KRku3x0 No.145560 Reply yeah, but the intensity of the wds is very variable between people depending on genetics dose and how long they took it forlyrica is the same, I have a script for 250 mg per day and can stop taking it anytime without any wds.... i dropped down to 75 mg per day because the therapeutic effect is the same an I trade the rest for gbl and nitrazepam
>> Jarvis Bammlefitch - Wed, 01 May 2019 16:36:52 EST dlLcl2tJ No.145596 Reply >>144727It does not, it does not work on the gaba.Nb
>> Ian Brullerbury - Sun, 05 May 2019 02:54:06 EST /I1Ld4ID No.145657 Reply Pregabalin tolerance seems to last a long time, definitely not 1 week to return to zero, at least 2 weeks it seems, but probably even 3 or 4. This is from using 150mg-300mg once a week.
Quitting, may have had a seizure? View Thread Reply Hide Angus Hattinghood - Thu, 07 Mar 2019 13:02:26 EST fejdxkTc No.144932 File: 1551981746522.jpg -(27242B / 26.60KB, 500x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >be me>tryna quit xans (been on them for 2yrs)>last bag I cop the bars arent great>reduce dose and feel the withdraw worse than I ever had>go to bed>wake up with puke on my floor and my monitors knocked over/empty baggie on the floor>can only remember puking>tongue is numb because I bit the end while asleep>tell friends and they think I may have had seizure>this was yesterday, today I am still going but my head feels just as fucked as before>worry I could have had a seizure and it could happen again>unsure of what to do any advice appreciated 20 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Hannah Ficklelat - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 13:39:15 EST rkj+g5xD No.145402 Reply >>145263pregabalin isn’t a benzo, its a gabapentinoid. >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:12:30 EST I6YS7H0F No.145415 Reply >>145402/benz/ is open to anything working on GABA-a and GABA-b. Yeah, pentobarbital isn't a benzo, but I damn well would bump and want to see someone bump if possible. I don't want to speak to that post, but it seems as if the poster is indicating the relative pointlessness of snorting pregabalin as well as benzos in general. However, maybe I am way off and people do mistake pregabalin and gabapentin as being benzos, but next to no one in the general public associates benzos and GHB (GABA-b agonist) outside of the fact of both being used to date rape people. >> Ernest Fucklelock - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 06:03:59 EST 4KRku3x0 No.145561 Reply >>145415tbh it's easier to spike someones drink with clonazolam/flubromazolam/flunitrazolam/flualprazolam dissolved in alcohol than it is with ghbyou only need a few drops, the benzos are cheaper and legal (well depends where you live) while with ghb you need a lot more and since they made gbl hard to obtain ghb isn't as cheap as it used to be.... around 2010 5g of ghb cost me around 0.5 eur (was making it myself).... buying it now on the dnm would cost a lot more, and now that I have a cheap source for pure basf gbl it's still more expensive
>> Hannah Ficklelat - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 13:39:15 EST rkj+g5xD No.145402 Reply >>145263pregabalin isn’t a benzo, its a gabapentinoid.
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:12:30 EST I6YS7H0F No.145415 Reply >>145402/benz/ is open to anything working on GABA-a and GABA-b. Yeah, pentobarbital isn't a benzo, but I damn well would bump and want to see someone bump if possible. I don't want to speak to that post, but it seems as if the poster is indicating the relative pointlessness of snorting pregabalin as well as benzos in general. However, maybe I am way off and people do mistake pregabalin and gabapentin as being benzos, but next to no one in the general public associates benzos and GHB (GABA-b agonist) outside of the fact of both being used to date rape people.
>> Ernest Fucklelock - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 06:03:59 EST 4KRku3x0 No.145561 Reply >>145415tbh it's easier to spike someones drink with clonazolam/flubromazolam/flunitrazolam/flualprazolam dissolved in alcohol than it is with ghbyou only need a few drops, the benzos are cheaper and legal (well depends where you live) while with ghb you need a lot more and since they made gbl hard to obtain ghb isn't as cheap as it used to be.... around 2010 5g of ghb cost me around 0.5 eur (was making it myself).... buying it now on the dnm would cost a lot more, and now that I have a cheap source for pure basf gbl it's still more expensive
Stomach pain from volumetric dosing View Thread Reply Hide Fuck Basslesteg - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 19:11:55 EST JtaTLcg6 No.145407 File: 1555283515025.jpg -(768566B / 750.55KB, 3024x4032) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. So yesterday I received these vials, and given I have a stomach ulcer, the ethyl alcohol is putting me through severe pain. My prescribed PPI's are barely helping. I try to dose on a full stomacg, but alas it fucks me up everytime.Anyone else had this issue? Feeling pretty disappointed..Thx 7 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Oliver Basslefuck - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 00:56:13 EST JtaTLcg6 No.145476 Reply >>145435I can't handle the consistency (too thick).>>145438Brilliant idea, thx! >> Yoyo the yo-yo - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:56:17 EST O6ePcd2d No.145483 Reply 1555912577498.jpg -(2689193B / 2.56MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>145407The benzo im presribed is waaaaaaay more uncommon than that wonderfull stuff( the C-lam at least) you got there but doubt you tried estazolam(NOT ETIZOLAM) it's technically desmethylalprazolam if you have let me know what you think cause its the rarest RX benzo i and everyone else on here has hered of. >> Ernest Fucklelock - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 05:54:52 EST 4KRku3x0 No.145559 Reply drop them on blotters/sugar cubes/whatever and let the ethanol evaporate
>> Oliver Basslefuck - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 00:56:13 EST JtaTLcg6 No.145476 Reply >>145435I can't handle the consistency (too thick).>>145438Brilliant idea, thx!
>> Yoyo the yo-yo - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:56:17 EST O6ePcd2d No.145483 Reply 1555912577498.jpg -(2689193B / 2.56MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>145407The benzo im presribed is waaaaaaay more uncommon than that wonderfull stuff( the C-lam at least) you got there but doubt you tried estazolam(NOT ETIZOLAM) it's technically desmethylalprazolam if you have let me know what you think cause its the rarest RX benzo i and everyone else on here has hered of.
>> Ernest Fucklelock - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 05:54:52 EST 4KRku3x0 No.145559 Reply drop them on blotters/sugar cubes/whatever and let the ethanol evaporate
