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isolating myself from trans friends and feeling lonely

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- Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:18:14 EST eq5WTl+K No.407260
File: 1587503894496.jpg -(158123B / 154.42KB, 1200x1572) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. isolating myself from trans friends and feeling lonely
I recently got SRS and none of my mtf friends have had it yet
I should be happy, and I guess I am happy with my own body, but I feel.. guilt.. and I feel like I isolated myself from them with this. If I could, I'd give the experience of having the surgery to them instead because I feel like I didn't deserve it. Knowing me, I'd be jealous but the feelings of guilt and loneliness are so crushing.. And it's not like I'm such a social person, I just feel weird alienating myslf from the few friends I have, or at least it feels like that...
might be post-surgery depression but idk

can anyone relate?
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James Suckleladging - Sun, 03 May 2020 00:02:55 EST +3IBuC1V No.407283 Reply

yeah but now they might think that you think you no longer need them because you have a vagina and they dont.

Reach out to them and talk to them, be real.
Eliza Brishridge - Thu, 07 May 2020 08:21:51 EST LKzeRb2X No.407293 Reply
>I'm better than you because i hate myself

/lgbt/ tier

to wait or not to wait

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- Fri, 01 May 2020 11:38:25 EST EOvAo1dD No.407274
File: 1588347505982.jpg -(1332435B / 1.27MB, 2560x1920) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. to wait or not to wait
I am a transwoman but haven't yet started on hormones.
I'm currently living with my transphobic parents to help them with some construction (and because I'm stuck here due to rona) but I still really want to get started on hormones.
If I were planning on staying here another 4-6 weeks, would it be a bad idea to go ahead and get started on hormones while here under the same roof as transphobic peoples? Or should I just wait until I'm free and clear of this place.
Lydia Pickshit - Fri, 01 May 2020 21:03:19 EST LKzeRb2X No.407276 Reply
Well, nothing will visibly change about your body in that time frame if that's what you're worried about. It can be hard to tell what you should do though, because on the one hand from my first shot I immediately felt relief, like my body was finally starting to stop working against my mind and my spirit, that this accident of birth was finally starting to be rectified. On the other hand, as you might expect, starting HRT does make you you exceptionally moody and emotionally vulnerable, and you really want to be going into that with as much support as humanly possible. Ideally, you'd have a therapeutic relationship with someone before starting, but that's not really necessary so long as you have at least a few people who you're close to who accept you for who you actually are.

Also, another thing to consider is right now with everything going on the right time even if you had support? This is a never before experienced global catastrophe that's taking its toll on everyone's mental health, let alone vulnerable populations. I can't really talk though, because it's easy for me since I started in January and I'm past the point where no matter what your opinion is about my situation, I can't just stop. This was never an elective procedure in my mind, but no matter how you look at it, it isn't one now. Crossing that threshold I think is probably one of the biggest milestones in our lives and I can't blame you for wanting to start as soon as humanly possible.

Basically, you won't wake up with DD's, you can keep it hidden that you've started, but it makes you much more emotional and I think more importantly, at least it my experience, it greatly reduces your ability to take other peoples' shit. From the first dose, many people myself included experience a shift in mindset wherein they finally realize they're right and they are what they are and it's actually not that big of a deal and it's really not that hard of a thing to wrap your head around. But once you no longer feel such intense self-loathing, the people who hate you as much as you used to hate yourself become a million times more frustrating.
Walter Crugglesick - Sun, 03 May 2020 10:40:27 EST EOvAo1dD No.407284 Reply
Thanks, love. <3
Your reply helped me out a lot and I have decided I'll wait until I'm in a more supportive environment.
You are wonderful!

How are you doing how am i doing

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- Tue, 21 Apr 2020 00:17:30 EST GjdvxStU No.407255
File: 1587442650560.jpg -(105218B / 102.75KB, 720x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How are you doing how am i doing
5 year mark now on hormones started injections this month sup hoes
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MarleyMarley - Tue, 21 Apr 2020 00:19:38 EST GjdvxStU No.407258 Reply
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Here is more or my body im a d cup now a chubby thicc country girl
Frederick Cronnerbanks - Thu, 30 Apr 2020 23:57:40 EST ZK3Jof0V No.407271 Reply
Nm, enjoying my isolation time while it lasts, wondering if I'll ever work up the courage to present fem.

You lookin good fren
Lydia Pickshit - Sat, 02 May 2020 17:52:28 EST LKzeRb2X No.407281 Reply
Damn. Is it the cross-race effect that makes it so in my mind people of other races are more likely to pass? or is there a greater disparity among white people do you think? five years on HRT is nothing to sneeze at either, but sometimes I worry that I've lost touch when it comes to people passing or not because i don't think about it in those terms any more

Non-Binary, Genderfluid, and Gender Nonconforming

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- Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:54:58 EST zoklygxc No.406614
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I'm just curious since I know this board has mostly focused on the transitioning of transgender individuals who identify along the binary gender lines, but is there anybody here who identifies as non-binary, genderfluid, or gender nonconforming? I don't think I've ever seen anybody here that would identify as being such so I'm legitimately curious.
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Hedda Blackdock - Tue, 28 Apr 2020 18:21:09 EST LKzeRb2X No.407267 Reply
>I'm really not into changing the way we address people and shit

I mean the "they" thing is two completely different cultural issues wrapped in one, the existence of non-binary or even trans people notwithstanding, it would still make sense to try and be gender neutral in one's language. Also differentiating between sex and gender is still changing the way we address people, integrating non-binary people into this isn't that big of a leap. There's no reason to say that language has to be something that emerges, or that we can't exercise control over it.

I do agree with you though, that I'd rather just be seen as who I am than have attention drawn to the ambiguity, but what can you do? we feel this way because we are binary, there are clearly people who find anything but they/them as grating as we find he/him, and our current understanding of the research that allows for our experiences to be valid supports non-binary peoples' interpretation of their gender identity as well. Even though gender falls on a bimodal not a perfect distribution, and most people cis and trans fall towards one side or the other, it's still perfectly reasonable to suggest that some people might fall close enough to the middle that they don't feel comfortable identifying as either.

Trust me, I know exactly we're you're coming from, and I feel the same way sometimes, but we're just wrong. I don't think we can say "ok guys, we're to a point where I personally feel I have a place and my life makes sense now, let's pack it in, we can't get TOO crazy here". I think we can either have all of it or none of it. Sure the unknown can be scary, but this is completely uncharted territory, we can't know what people in the future will do, we can't even know if there'll BE a future

Everything we're talking about here is shit humans completely made up, and while that isn't to say it doesn't have a real impact on our lives, it clearly does, it means that we can make revisions consciously, even though no one person sat down and consciously thought up language, gender, etc.

Basically, I think we feel the way we do because we're looking for a place in a system that fundamentally can't accommodate us. Our ultimate goal should be the total destruction of that system. Well, I mean that's not even a goal per say, it's just what will happen, either that or we regress back to a rigid gender binary, forget everything about the difference between sex and gender and all that stuff and just shoah all the faggots like it's 1936. It's either/or, we can't stay in this limbo forever, even though it's marginally easier for us to live in it than it is for people who are purely non-binary
Phoebe Narringnig - Sat, 02 May 2020 02:38:33 EST Oc36Wdvo No.407278 Reply
If we go back to stone the faggots then why not just kill the stoners before you can be stoned? Survival of the fittest.
Lydia Pickshit - Sat, 02 May 2020 17:46:01 EST LKzeRb2X No.407280 Reply
because i was weak and effete BEFORE I started taking drugs that gives me less muscle, softer skin, and knockers. i need society in order to exist, but i don't buy that that means i shouldn't, because we're human beings not just animals

Any Enbies in here?

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- Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:57:43 EST VUmb+i4Q No.406291
File: 1564001863683.jpg -(273170B / 266.77KB, 1024x1024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Any Enbies in here?
I'm looking to see if there are any AFAB or AMAB people who are Non-Binary (NB, or Enby).

I myself used to come to this board seeking information on transitioning and found a lot of talk of mysterious hormones (Spiro and Estro) and very very little talk of FTM or AFAB struggles with transitioning.

As soon as I launched myself into gay circles I found place where people weren't apart of the binary and they used the gender-neutral pronouns "they/them" where as I had heard only of these "wildly radical 27,000 other genders and their own specific pronouns and some of them want to be dragons and helicopters." When the reality was most of these Non-binary people just wanted to opt out of the gender game and I resonated with that after finding out how men would begin to treat me in the workplace as soon as they figured out I was trans. It grossed me out and I immediately understood what they were all about so I adopted an Enby centiment all the while still feeling the desire to "pass."

What does that even mean when I don't want to play a part in the gender binary?

Also, I really felt personally attacked by the contrapoints video about transtrenders, specifically with the phrase "Have fun being a male lesbian who fucks cats." Lol so if that's you, you're not alone.

I really want to hear your stories and what you feel about this sort of thing. And if there's a better place for Enby chats, let me know!!

Thank you.
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Fuck Clendleshaw - Thu, 23 Apr 2020 16:58:37 EST LKzeRb2X No.407264 Reply
that's cool, i figured it was tongue in cheek after I replied
George Cludgepon - Tue, 28 Apr 2020 03:22:27 EST Oc36Wdvo No.407265 Reply
I would use “they” and correct myself if I misspeak because I have a feeling that it would drive you mad.
Hedda Blackdock - Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:52:50 EST LKzeRb2X No.407266 Reply
>I would misgender you on purpose because I disagree with you


Sissies and Sissie-wear

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- Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:17:54 EST XjVAYUhK No.407208
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Can we discuss Crossdressing and Sissydom?

Where do you buy your clothes?

When and how did you discover that you prefer the fashion of the other sex?

Are you ashamed?

Does it arouse you?
Do you cum in womens clothes?

Is sissywear even comfy?
Or does it just look comfy, but is hard and pointy when wearing it?

Do you have any subfetishes?
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Fucking Brogglestuck - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 02:39:55 EST Oc36Wdvo No.407217 Reply
Didn’t this board start as a cros dressing board and soon evolved into being about transgender discussions?
Fucking Brogglestuck - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 02:41:13 EST Oc36Wdvo No.407218 Reply
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That feel when you realize that boys used to wear dresses along with girls.


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- Sat, 21 Mar 2020 18:06:18 EST eYssy9wX No.407198
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ATTN: CoVID-19 information. A former colleague of mine who is an infectious disease doctor in New Orleans (third highest infection rate in the U.S.) sent me this warning. Please share to anyone potentially using Spironolactone (ie. AMAB trans folk, blood pressure patients,etc).
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Henry Geddlewell - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 00:25:13 EST Oc36Wdvo No.407206 Reply
We discussed this at my last visit recently. He’s focusing on T blocking which is why I’m on 200mg of Spiro a day (morning and evening).
Edward Nollydock - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 05:41:25 EST XjDkB6zq No.407219 Reply
I read the research papers related to this. It sounded like the direction of effect could actually be the opposite? Spironolactone lowers blood pressure and increases potassium levels, while people with covid-19 have the worst outcomes when they have high blood pressure and low potassium levels. So spiro could be protective.

Not a doctor so take with a grain of salt.

I want to be a woman

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- Sat, 29 Feb 2020 11:20:07 EST WOi829on No.407129
File: 1582993207821.jpg -(236567B / 231.02KB, 480x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I want to be a woman
Can't deny it any longer. Where do I go from here?

Pic related is wikipedia's image dubbed "various women"
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Alice Fambledock - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 18:51:25 EST LKzeRb2X No.407131 Reply
The process in the states, or at least what I did goes like this: Find a therapist who specializes in gender identity issues, they'll meet with you for a while, any responsible therapist will need a few sessions for what's called the differentiation stage, where they make sure that what you're experiencing isn't because of any other conditions of the mind. They aren't by skeptical by default, and you don't even have to experience gender dysphoria to be trans, although it certainly makes this process more clear cut. Just be honest, and you have nothing to worry about, but do keep an open mind to there being any other potential issues that could be addressed, you'll find out pretty quick once you're on HRT whether or not you're right, but going through with the process when it's not right for you isn't fun. So I've heard, I had some vague doubts that were killed the moment I had my first shot of estradiol. They'll then write a referral or call one in to a doctor, it doesn't have to be an endo or anyone who specializes in this sort of thing, HRT is a pretty basic medical procedure as things go. You meet with the doctor for an initial consultation, they'll write you the orders for bloodwork, you have it done, then you come back for a full physical. Don't worry too much about this, it's not Gattaca, they just want to make sure you aren't dying.

Then you start HRT and that's pretty much it, you'll find out after a few months whether or not you would benefit from plastic surgery like FFS or a tracheal shave or whatnot, I happened to luck out in that regard, or at least I seem to be, I've only been on HRT for a month, but I have shoulders that while still kind of broad taper nicely, a face that was moderately feminine to begin with, and no discernible Adam's apple, which I think might, among other things, points to there being an element of intersexuality in my case but that's neither here nor there. Don't under any circumstances get voice surgery, it's a very dangerous procedure and you could be left mute or talking like you had a tracheostomy and similar results can be achieved with voice training.

I think the first thing to do would be to call your insurance provider and ask what is and isn't covered. Most insurance covers HRT and SRS if you get a recommendation from a licensed therapist, some plans also cover FFS, electrolysis/laser hair removal, and some even cover things like voice training.
Edward Nibbergold - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 11:59:56 EST rOfuWQny No.407138 Reply
anon is on the money here.

there may also be informed consent clinics who do not require a therapist's referral before treating you. the process is similar, but shorter. they'll want more information, like your goals, and ensure you understand the risks with thorough questioning. have you do bloodwork, then the next time you come back, youll be prescribed hrt.

which brings us to the important aspect of planning and support. if you havent done so already, do some planning as to how it could affect your life. are you at risk of harm from your decision? do you live in a supportive household? will your job be at risk? preparing your mind to cope ahead of time will go a long way in the initial stages of your transition.

while a therapist may not be required for you to get hrt, strongly consider having one anyway for this journey, if you can afford one. if not, make friends with other trans people, if you can. are there support groups in your area? can you join an online community like on mastodon or discord with people who are going through the same thing? when your own mind or the external world has you down and youre feeling bad, this sort of stuff is important.

i hope it goes well for you anon, and that you find your authentic self!
Nell Connertire - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 06:22:58 EST LKzeRb2X No.407142 Reply
yeah, if you're in the states I know Planned Parenthood will do it pretty much no questions asked but insurance is a lot less likely to cover it without an actual referral

Trans beauty advice

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- Sat, 14 Mar 2020 12:36:42 EST LBaAXaeI No.407183
File: 1584203802396.png -(8516236B / 8.12MB, 5645x5346) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Trans beauty advice
I also find the woman hand v.s. man hand accepted ratio absolutely ridiculous which says that womens' hands have an index finger and ring finger equal in length whereas men's hands do not.

Lol, just google female hands and you will see that most women do not have equally lengthed index & ring fingers.
Oliver Chumbleridge - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:36:41 EST K6YuZlwY No.407184 Reply
That's not how it works. Both men and women have longer ring fingers on average, women just trend toward equal length ring-index fingers.

horny turk

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- Sat, 10 Jun 2017 10:10:13 EST dwqpfqmV No.403498
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hello i am turk
i want trans girlfriend
can i get one ?: DD where
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Graham Blatherbanks - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 13:26:35 EST o3jOn11Q No.407170 Reply
bum p
Beatrice Billingforth - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 02:31:09 EST g/Bx05E8 No.407181 Reply
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looks more like the troll is entertaining them.

Passing / Presenting Tips for an Absolute Retard

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- Tue, 16 Jul 2019 03:58:36 EST zoklygxc No.406260
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I have no idea where to start when it comes to passing. I am currently on estradiol and recently went back on spironolactone after that one year hiatus. I also switched my larger once-a-week patches that used to fall off for the smaller ones with better adhesives that are twice-a-week. I yearn to start passing and presenting. A friend of mine told me that nobody is going to pass over night so it's better to just start presenting while learning what works and what doesn't. But I'm too much of a pussy to do that. I feel like a helpless child in more ways than just this. I have no idea where to start with vocal training as everybody I asked for help either way my voice is "already there," but there are still those who say it's too masculine. I know it's within the overlap between masculine and feminine pitches though. It just has to be.

How do you handle passing and presenting? Where do you start?

I'm such a failure in life.
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Lydia Hicklefid - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 06:50:32 EST g/Bx05E8 No.407158 Reply
Why did /cd/ suddenly get all obsessed with who's a TERF or a TERF plant or whatever? Half these threads seem like they're about makeup or liver tests and they end up devolving into some weird gender McCarthyism.
Cyril Brookway - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:19:57 EST LKzeRb2X No.407172 Reply
yeah that's a hill they want to die on evidently, I mean it's better than a spergburglar troll from the future

Nina Paley

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- Mon, 09 Mar 2020 08:46:31 EST qWEqRkll No.407150
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I used to really like Nina back when she was an indie cartoonist, but she turned out to be a real cunt.
Doris Sullerdock - Mon, 09 Mar 2020 17:30:01 EST 7hJCOOod No.407153 Reply
most indie cartoonists tend toward the opinionated twat spectrum. it's the nature of having a soapbox in the form of a comic for years and years.

Odd Hormonal Question

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- Sun, 08 Mar 2020 10:16:26 EST N7nl8nmp No.407144
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Okay, so something I'm curious about (genuinely not for me) Is it dangerous (like significantly moreso than HRT in general) for someone born male to take testosterone blockers without taking estrogen as well?

I have a friend born male who doesn't want to be anymore but doesn't want to be female either. Agender I guess but they're actually really serious about it, have gender dysphoria, and have been talking seriously about trying to get related surgeries. I voiced this idea as a "what if" but said I didn't know if it was in any way safe.

I know cis men are tested for T levels sometimes for health reasons. And when (I'm MtF myself) I got approved for HRT and was talking to my practitioner about it she wanted to start me on just estrogen and I said if I was gonna be on just one I'd want a T-blocker so she just started me on both. But other the other hand like, prepubescent boys don't usually just keel over dead right?

Picture related to how I suspect this question will be taken
Nathaniel Warringnat - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 10:21:01 EST N7nl8nmp No.407145 Reply
On a side note, I was the board mod here in I think 2007 and resurrected this board after the original founder abandoned it and it got flooded by trolling. I originally just wanted to clean up the board to be usable for other people (and I think posted with a name all of once, to clear up a moderation issue that was causing drama) but it was my original exposure to the formal concept of transgenderism (an interesting note is that in my area (northwest ohio) the term transgenderism is still used by mental health professionals to this day.)
Priscilla Buzzworth - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 13:10:17 EST rOfuWQny No.407146 Reply
Lack of sex hormones can lead to bone density loss. The scale of time for this happen to a degree that can cause e.g. fractures is years. It can also cause mood issues such as depression. Long term antiandrogen monotherapy resulting in no or very low sex hormones is not something a physician will recommend to an adult. Your friend has several options, but none are ideal. They will all produce some amount of sex differentiation (masculization or feminization).

They can take bicalutamide, an antiandrogen that will block T's effects without reducing circulating T, with Raloxifene, a SERM which will prevent E's action in breast tissue while also acting on the bones to prevent osteoporosis. SERMs extremely experimental and your friend could have difficulty finding a physician to prescribe it due to that affecting their comfort. They also come with higher risk of stroke. With this method, because T is still present, it will be aromitized into E. While breast development would be nonexistent or minimal, it will still cause feminization to the rest of their body.

GNRhAs like Lupron act on the brain to prevent sex hormones from being produced in the gonads. Antiandrogens like dutasteride prevent the conversaion of T to DHT, which is a stronger version of T. They can take these together with a low dose of T to prevent osteoporosis and minimize body masculization. Unfortunately, the low levels of T required to prevent this would also further masculinization to some extent. This is probably the regimen that your friend would find most traction with pursuing through a physician.

If your friend disregarded all of this advice and did antiandrogen monotherapy, the results would depend on the regimen. It is possible that they would still see sex differentiation due to some of the things I've already mentioned. Since a physician wouldn't recommend this either, they would be on their own in acquiring the drugs, too. I won't advise on how to accomplish this as I believe it to be too risky for mental health. Even if they find benefit to their dysphoria, depression can occur unrelated to it. Sex hormones are neurosteroids, which are rather crucial for mood regulation.
William Pittfoot - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 13:54:57 EST LKzeRb2X No.407147 Reply
In addition to all of this, even without estradiol/progesterone, anti-androgens still cause overt feminization in biological males, like breast development, fat redistribution, etc.

I used to feel like this, and I'm not saying this is the case with your friend, lots of non-binary people feel like they do, but it was kind of mostly a saying you're bi when you're really gay type compromise. I'd still say I'm non-binary but close enough to the female side of the spectrum to want to use female pronouns, got on HRT and plan on SRS, took on a different name, etc.

I think I kinda just thought non-binary or not I'm gonna have to choose which side would be easier to work with and in terms of features I'd like female was the clear winner.

Maybe in your friends case they could try MtF HRT along with using binders, cosmetic surgeries, hell even steroids and other drugs thrown in

But yeah anti-androgen monotherapy is dangerous and pointless, it just does the same things but slower and fucks your body up very fast

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