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- Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:13:26 EST F3ksySQh No.403522
File: 1497435206317.png -(61100B / 59.67KB, 184x184) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Autogynephilia
Is autogynephilia a reason not to transition? If so, why?

If you enjoy looking and presenting female in day to day life what exactly is the difference? Is there some unstudied future regret assumed?
Barnaby Pubberwurk - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 07:04:18 EST npJEuFvC No.403523 Reply
Everyone seems to forget, or willfully omit that Blanchard et al. never said AGPTS shouldn't transition, to the contrary, infact.

They are/were interested in the psychology behind it and saw clear trends between sexuality, age of transition and such, giving birth to the two 'types' of TS.

That's literally fucking it, but backlash from it (mainly from AGPs) would lead you to believe it claimed AGPs were fucking subhuman and should be gassed or something
Isabella Brovingworth - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 07:17:30 EST W33OzG35 No.403524 Reply

The biggest issue with Autogynephiliacs is they self med. if you want to transition and have a fetish to look like a woman then go talk to a psychologist, go the legit route.

This isnt some kind of gatekeeping saying "you shouldnt do this! this is for us only!" type things its about doing whats best for you and quite honestly, some people have deluded expectations of what the reality of being a transperson is. People go online, spend all their time looking at pictures of transgirls who are pretty and talk about how much they enjoy life online etc but the reality is it either cost them thousands of dollars (which by the way most trans people dont have a relative go "hey here have 40k to look like a woman haha!") and then think "i could be pretty too. All my dreams could come true, i will pass and it will fix all my problems!" But what the photos dont show you is their voice, varying shadows which can enchance male features, the fact that you've already begun puberty, you already have a male skeleton, male hands male feet male cranium whatever, you have certain elements which are pretty much set in stone which current surgical technology can not alter.

There is nothing wrong with being an autogynephile but transitioning is dangerous for people who know they are doing it for vanity. Your looks will fade, you're going to be old some day imagine yourself at 35 50 65 and think realisticly, dont give me any of that "ill die before im old so it doesnt matter" you wont, you have to live with your decision for the remainder of your life, decades, half-century heck the way medicine is going maybe even a century and for that entire time you're going to be paying for prescription medicine to, the initial exuberance of transition dies out within the first few years, there was that transgirlcomic where by 3 years of hormones she just shrugs at the idea of having boobs because transition is mundane, its not exciting its not glamorous and you arent special what you're feeling now will die off, i guarantee it.

Having foundations that last is very important to transition, you need something to keep you going when the times get tough because times will get tough and at that moment you will realise your entire identity is based off of a fetish to look like a woman.

With all that being said, fuck me, dont listen to me, im just an idiot on the internet and you shouldnt listen to people on the internet, but please if you feel like you might be transgendered go legit, go talk to someone go wait in queue for 6 months dont self med, its becoming more apparant that the people who are more likely to detransition are people have have/are self medding, talking to people online is not a support base, you want an actualy doctor monitoring your transition, you want a psychologist to go to when shit gets rough for you, you'll need a place to go when times get tough.

Transitioning for me was the best thing i could've done, not because i have boobs or wear skirts, but because i have a identity disorder where i have a male body but think im a female and every time i was reminded that i was a guy it sent me spiralling, now people stop reminding me, now even if people do see a male in front of them they say "she" "her" "girlname", because being trans is a mental disorder not a fidget spinner.

Anyways, i hope thats helped, just to reiterate, theres nothing wrong with being autogynephile, just if you want to transition go legit and be honest, theres no use lying just to get through the gate for the above mentioned reasons. Go talk to a psychologist that will challenge you and not just wave you through. Or not.

Instead of fidget spinner i was going to mention that bag raiders song shooting stars? but i was like nah the trendy toy metaphor is better. here you go anyway.

Nathaniel Ninderchuck - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 10:19:05 EST 2IbZEiEJ No.403526 Reply
Trans, AGP, etc. are just semantic categories.
It's all about how you feel, and what you want to do in life.
Don't let anyone drag you into a neat little semantic box.
Just do whatever you want without labeling yourself.
Jack Summlehood - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 02:08:15 EST JrqQjcgE No.403537 Reply
This term needs to die. All women are autogynephiles. Men are autoabdrophiles. Men love the dick more than women ever did. Even straight guys. Japanese tentacles were originally created to get past censoring penises, until eventually, the need for dick was so intense they began having to censor those too because they couldn't help themselves. My girlfriend is cis and cams all the time with her Hitachi. Sometimes she stares in the mirror. You let this term fuck you up OP you will let yourself down. We're supposed to fucking LOVE ourselves. That's healthy!!! That includes ssexually for fucks sake. That's a human right. We only live fucking once OMFG how tragic that we literally have to make loving our own fucking bodies a hurdle to happiness.
Albert Muckleville - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 02:31:19 EST 5Xe+ltCR No.403538 Reply
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I mean sincerely, real talk, you know is the term gender construct. Holy fuck KS this not a modern one. It was literally constructed to make us insane. You will go INSANE trying to think about this. This is literally something no cis person is ever fucking made to think about. The persons who thought this concept up are rresponsible for the manual that defines insanity. It's their fucking jobs. It's literally their purpose in life, to define, create, and construct an index of fucking insanity. The very iiea of being ABLE TO SEXUALLY BE HAPPY WITH ONESELF IS WHY WE FUCKING ARE FUCKING TRANSEXUALS. ITS IN THS WORD. I don't know how the separation between the need to change sex, and SEXual arousal, fucking happened. How? How does it happen? Because Blanchard is a fucking narcissist. This is the same people who want to remove narcissistic personality disorder from the manual. Stop perpetuating it. I don't know a single fucking psychologist or psychiatrist who follows it worth a damn. If that man jerks off in disgust because he's heterosexual I will sell my goddamned kidneys. This is poison. It poisoned me and made me wait way too fucking long to even see a counselor. She looked at me when I brought this up and she just about almost teared up. That I thought the possibility of me doing this for sexual reasons may make me less of a woman, that I might be lying to myself. This term is born from a generational of people who think women have minimal sexuality. This is oppressive archaic shit. Ask any ciswoman if they like having sex as a woman and you'd probably get the most stupid stare, no fucking shit. This is so fucking ridiculous. If you really really really think about it, it unravels itself for God's sake. Don't let it unravel who you are.

William Furryfield - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:46:38 EST 4uT39j/7 No.403543 Reply
>All women are autogynephiles

Absolute, utter horseshit.
Samuel Hollerville - Fri, 30 Jun 2017 08:59:17 EST fkWEr28b No.403586 Reply
women have completely different sexualities than autogynephile males
Hugh Dillyridge - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 02:27:04 EST W33OzG35 No.403606 Reply

no they dont thats just plain idiotic its clearly obvious that all cis women get aroused by fantasising about themselves as women, jeeze the gall of your claim.
Beatrice Sannerdore - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 17:11:57 EST dbjIzySw No.406026 Reply
Can I reply to this old thread? I thank you for helping me to decide not to transition as an agp. I want to be a girl, not an old ugly woman. I also read about transwomen with bottom surgery who are alone at 50 or didn't get a real date just men that used them.
Graham Clirrymetch - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:11:52 EST +3IBuC1V No.406038 Reply

Im pretty sure theres a part of that post about not listening to people on the internet.
Basil Moblingwill - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 22:31:45 EST 7Mab6jQU No.406072 Reply
Not wanting to be an old woman is a good reason to be wary of transitioning. Being a woman isn't just about being young and cute. It's your life and that includes being an old one.
John Duckfuck - Sun, 05 May 2019 23:28:10 EST NlPFu+lA No.406095 Reply
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>old woman?????????
Well you could always get buzzed and take a sketchy ass motorcycle ride once you hit menopause.
David Mallerville - Mon, 13 May 2019 20:13:20 EST nDGQPVMc No.406106 Reply
Truthfully, knowing I was starting transitioning in my late 20's the idea of being an older woman was basically inevitable and I'm perfectly fine by that.
Clara Wungerstock - Tue, 14 May 2019 00:08:09 EST ilAOlos1 No.406107 Reply
Truly, not transitioning will save you from the inevitable burden of getting old.

>inb4 men age better

People who take care of their bodies age better. You, prone to depression and anxiety, will not. Feel free to argue, you know I'm right.
Lydia Drurryridge - Tue, 14 May 2019 15:58:01 EST NsFIGh4C No.406113 Reply
>n-n-no y-you
you'll reply to this one too
go join a nationalist movement already
Cedric Bidgenat - Thu, 16 May 2019 20:19:18 EST eriXr+/w No.406122 Reply
Oooooh, look, someone's scared of a few untether thoughts on something or another and needs to take shot at boldly tripping any threats to them up into some partisan tango!
(don't worry, there's already some meaningsome "fun" crashing down in the vicinity)
Samuel Subblewell - Fri, 17 May 2019 12:28:26 EST quBr0P0m No.406123 Reply
im not even gonna read this threat but im trans and the truth is that cis women enjoy the thought of sex AS women. its not weird for a trans person, who may currently see themselves as a man, to also find the thought of being sexual, as a woman, to be hot.

i also know a lot of trans girls whose sexual desires like this practically vanished once they transitioned.
Jack Mollerwill - Tue, 21 May 2019 03:54:40 EST eriXr+/w No.406145 Reply
Pray for completely uncalled for things much harded, "gramps"
Walter Humblepidge - Wed, 29 May 2019 07:06:07 EST eriXr+/w No.406177 Reply
Whoa, a blatant typo! Well, I guess it's neccessary to count something as the online equivalent of looking objectively-ugly as some bizarelly feel is neccessary to match and validate subjective-ugliness convictions. Or better yet, hoping against hope that it's a super significant sign of a downward spiral in accordance with some perceived duty to represent transness and illustrate to the world some sort of fundamental profound pain.

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