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- Mon, 12 Aug 2019 09:44:22 EST VXOdpzl8 No.406371
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Is this just TERF nonsense or an actual thing. I mean, I definitely feel like it's a double-edged sword, and I don't know if the good parts really outweigh the bad.

On the one hand, you have this implicit confidence having been raised in a society that from birth considers you to be a natural born leader. You're encouraged to explore many interests that girls never are, which leads to life long passions and career options many women don't have. I guess that's all I can think of actually.

On the other hand, you have to learn countless unspoken social queues, subtle behaviors, and complex mores to build relationships with other women. You have years of socialization that you're not allowed to be girly or like girly things (this doesn't just magically go away when you realize you actually are a girl) and even with the greatest support structure, you'll always carry this sense of shame, some more than others, this feeling like you're wrong, deficient, a failed man, a sissy. All of us deal with this to some extent or another, and some of use deal with even worse things like being disowned by our families, kicked out of our houses, and fired from our jobs.

I mean the whole "being trans" thing in general, kind of a shitty draw. Yeah ok, I might be part of one of the most oppressed and universally reviled peoples on Earth right now, we might be openly beaten and killed in the streets, in an ostensibly developed world superpower, that does nothing but strip our rights and protections away as hate crimes against us are on the rise. We have to live our lives feeling like impostors because people can't take 5 minutes to learn some very basic science with an open mind, just existing around some people makes them feel uncomfortable if we don't pass well enough and the media exposure and education that would help eliminate this is called "forced diversity" and "left-wing propaganda".

But shit, that 20 years I got living as a guy (during which time my body was getting irreversibly more masculine, I grew to hate myself more and more every day and developed severe mental illnesses I still have to this day and will always have from living every second of my life feeling like I was controlling a strangers corpse in a fake world without being able to understand why)? WORTH it.

Ok I think I actually just answered my own question but I'm up for debate.
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Sidney Goodspear - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 23:16:37 EST zqV9w1QZ No.406378 Reply
>>406371
>Is this just TERF nonsense or an actual thing.
No.

It's shared by other "oppressed-people's-champions" groups. Some, not all, mainline communists for example have a marked hostility towards convoluting things and prefer to keep privilige categories limited, naturally since they put heavy, intense emphasis on their favorite ones.

>You're encouraged to explore many interests that girls never are, which leads to life long passions and career options many women don't have.

And that is what some other groups define as privelege. They define the things that would be used in such activities as superpowerful secret weapons that you're inevitably due to be using against them. More specifically, what makes you count as a soldier of the advantaged group is the perception of interests or passions, which are naturally presumed to have been sweetly and comprehensively tutored into you.
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Shit Bardcocke - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 03:33:43 EST VXOdpzl8 No.406381 Reply
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>>406378
>Some, not all, mainline communists for example

Right no, fuck them, but there is not a single more irrelevant group of people on the left right now. No true MLs or MLMs support these revisionist parties and they're basically just cops and LARPers all the way down. No communist worth listening to one word from would dream of defending any of the existing deformed worker's states as "already existing socialism" like groups CPGB-ML do. Not to mention you just simply can't be a communist or an anarchist if you have any kind of prejudice towards minorities which obviously includes transphobia. It's the same thing as not believing in abolishing private property. It's like literally the biggest part of what you're saying you believe.

Like all reactionaries though, their time will come, there's no reason to be worried about such an impotent and irrelevant group of people, being concerned is almost giving them too much credit

>And that is what some other groups define as privelege.

And it's literally the only one I could even pretend to see, but it's fucking stupid too.

Yeah, absolutely, as a mousy library clerk who's into twee pop, Foucault, and painting while she smokes weed and hangs out with her friends, I'm so fucking glad my parents made me play football and be in robotics club when I was a kid, that's exactly it dude.

It's not like years of being socialized the wrong way made me feel ashamed then because I didn't like and wasn't good at the things I was supposed to like and be good at, and even a little ashamed now because in the back of my mind now and then I still get the feeling like I'm not allowed to like the thing's I legitimately love more than anything
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Sidney Goodspear - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 04:23:37 EST zqV9w1QZ No.406382 Reply
>>406381
"Wah wah wah wah wah!" "...they should-should-should-should,they gotta-gotta-gotta..."

Ever tried getting off your fucking giraffe of a high horse for a moment? I was just reporting how certain types behave, including actual communists, whatever specific variant of communists they may be considered to be, you know, the type that was the ginormous insurmountable enemy of actual nazis? Yeah, they were all LARPing, especially those pretty much incapable of getting along with entitled, plundering, incessently self gratifying westerners, and facing jail for not LARPing properly enough was just to make the LARP more real!

And don't fucking "dude" me, I fucking despise dudes. Though I am able to get along with men acceptably enough, sometimes even surprisingly well, if you want to give me shit about that too.
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Shit Bardcocke - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:35:16 EST VXOdpzl8 No.406384 Reply
>>406382
First of all, my bad, I seriously didn't mean to misgender you, dude is a gender neutral term where I live. But the USSR after Stalin was revisionist and Maoist groups around the world for the most part splintered into a million pieces after the end of the Cultural Revolution and the prosecution of the Gang of Four. With no guidance, these groups for the most part also became revisionist.

I'm not saying that countries like Cuba and Vietnam are bad at all and they have the closest thing to existing socialism and they should obviously be given our critical support.

>you know, the type that was the ginormous insurmountable enemy of actual nazis?

Lol, cause people like Jason Unrue were on the frontlines right? To paraphrase Doug Stanhope

>Oh, was that us?’ Was that me and you? We liberated Germany? Jesus. I know I blacked out a little last night, but I don’t remember…

>>406383
Is seriously right and I think we need to stop this and save the sectarian shit-flinging for PSL meetings.

I shouldn't have said what I did, but I just have a very specific bone to pick with CPGB-ML because they're transphobic pieces of shit and you should hate them as much as I do.

Just because they're a splinter, of a splinter, of a splinter, of a party that actually did some seriously good things in the world doesn't mean they're real communists or at all deserving of respect.
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Shitting Bogglepodge - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 07:18:54 EST zqV9w1QZ No.406394 Reply
>>406384
>didn't mean to misgender you

No, your other bads.

It is a nice try at a deflectory preemptive apology, though I already implied that I'd wouldn't be irked the same way by a common "hey man"-type remark. Don't worry, I'm no example of a presentable, desirable giver of feminine social duty that makes a decent walking testimony to the huge dividend-dishing goodness of gender permissiveness.

But then, there are other things affecting people big.

>I'm not saying that countries like...

Yeah, bring up Vietnam, as if the many Vietnamese immigrants would be red inflitrators! Or more likely like they just felt compelled to rub up to Muricans in order to not be getting bombed anymore! Ditto for Cubans, except there was massive concern about the reds back at home seem luring naive Americans for vacations, where they have big indoctrination opportunity!

And China is still communist. It's obviously considerably more capitalist than communist, but that repulsive, beastly combination doesn't invalidate what people can call it out for.

>Lol, cause people like Jason Unrue were on the frontlines right?

Damn, just how much of a massive weasel are you?

On the surface, that did effectively give the impression of simple deafness. Nonsensically dragging in a pinko-in-denial after being told this isn't about pinkos, not that I'm unwilling to talk about pinkos as pinkos, or as whatever
while keeping categories orderly and goddamn clear.

But no, I see attempting just one low blow isn't enough for the likes of you. Reading into that, I see you're harping on hollywood's dogma about the innocence of the profiteering west, who basically set the nazis up with all the World War 1 bullshit in the first place, having supposedly saved the world in D-day, or a slightly longer version of it. I'm guessing that must be a pre-smoothened talking-"point" that you've been taught, huh?

>Was that me and you? We liberated Germany?

Liberated? Hitlers come and go, but the German people do remain! Liberated from themselves? Would *you* want to be liberated from yourself?

Yeah, it might as well have been, when axis-country people had a big, honking axe to grind at me about the post-WW2 world. Hell, you couldn't even trust empowered axis country people to hold back a little on that.

The indignant disbelief is astounding. Why is it so impossible? When the liberation lasted half a century, which is exactly something there's so much soreness about. Though some people may find "liberation" of a measly quarter of Germany a far worse descriptor than "reverse collonialism".

>you should hate CPGB-ML as much as I do.

No. I must have Idunno how many reason to not fret about shit "getting" ugly in that leading toxic well of the world. Fuck the hypocrisy there, it's the twue marxists that had their hearts set on "the workshop of the world" an hence are sore about the master plan getting hosed by receiving horrible inadequate excuses of countries to mold.

Ummmm...

Well, now, I can't wrap my head too good around who else would consider conceivable career directions, and pointers towards them as massive priveleges. I guess Germany and China in particular see working as a great honor, so some groups there must have similar sentiments.
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Cedric Poggleway - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:24:22 EST VXOdpzl8 No.406396 Reply
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>>406394
is there some kind of language barrier here or did I have a stroke last night cause i genuinely can't figure out what any of this means

This shit reads like Netjester lmao

>Would *you* want to be liberated from yourself?

You mean... if I lived in Nazi Germany as a trans person? Yes. Obviously yes. I would.

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