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Non-Binary, Genderfluid, and Gender Nonconforming

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- Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:54:58 EST zoklygxc No.406614
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I'm just curious since I know this board has mostly focused on the transitioning of transgender individuals who identify along the binary gender lines, but is there anybody here who identifies as non-binary, genderfluid, or gender nonconforming? I don't think I've ever seen anybody here that would identify as being such so I'm legitimately curious.
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Hedda Gesslefuck - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:23:54 EST +3IBuC1V No.406620 Reply
>>406614

Theres nothing really here for genderfluid people, nb etc, same as transmen to be honest, this board is mostly populated by transwomen.
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Hugh Finninggold - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 02:54:12 EST zoklygxc No.406621 Reply
>>406620
So there isn't a single genderfluid person here or on /lgbt/?
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Emma Peckledatch - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 05:51:25 EST g/Bx05E8 No.406622 Reply
>>406621
I’ve been here for a long time and am sometimes on /lgbt/. I’m behaviorally gender nonconforming, I guess.
>DFAB
>testosterone and top surgery years and years and years ago
>present male usually, grow beard, pleased with this
>crossdress F every now and then (keep chest flat), generally taken for cis girl

I usually just tell people I’m FTM, but I’m possibly bigender? Honestly I no longer care. I let people refer tome how they want.
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David Darrygold - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 04:02:55 EST grSp37VA No.406627 Reply
special snowflake isn't a gender
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Sophie Sottingchone - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 04:59:53 EST R0MG5Ijn No.406628 Reply
>>406627
yeah fuck you i'm glad it's so easy for you to fit in
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Sophie Sottingchone - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 05:13:47 EST R0MG5Ijn No.406629 Reply
>>406614
i'm non-binary, but i mention it rarely on these boards because of the amount of shit i get for it
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Nicholas Trotman - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 23:50:28 EST vlab8xQz No.406633 Reply
I'm not very familiar with all the labeling terms. I consider myself androgynous or a cross dresser. Genderfluid sounds right because sometimes I feel more masculine or feminine, but usually I feel neutral or equally mixed. idk
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MPH - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 16:58:58 EST rDyqZEke No.406669 Reply
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>>406614

I'm very NB and I rarely come on here anymore. I'm so tired of the passing threads and bullshit that comes with being a binary transwoman. I have plenty of NB friends and it's really nice to relax about the whole thing and not worry about voice training or anything like that. NBs have a much tougher time in society and online I've heard, but I personally have never experienced such negativity.
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Charlotte Donderhatch - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:18:13 EST ZeDlO5G8 No.406671 Reply
>>406669
>>406629
Everyone who meets you sees either a male or female, because that's how the human brain works. I respect nb people and don't mind using special pronouns, but my brain reads either male or female even if I don't think about it or verbally acknowledge it.

That said, I think nb is definitely a useful label for someone who would like to transition but doesn't plan on it. And/or if someone is highly gender nonconforming and wants a way to verbally express that fact, rather than being thought of as someone who sucks at performance of their gender.

Any of this make sense?
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Fanny Cloggleford - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:49:53 EST WQCIUv3D No.406676 Reply
>>406671
>Everyone who meets you sees either a male or female

You sure about that?

Also

>that's how the human brain works

Because of our social conditioning and only that. Countless cultures not indoctrinated by the Christ cult had a place for people of a "third gender" and other gender nonconforming people. See: the hijras, the mahu, the hierodule, the sekhet, two-spirit to two-souled people in various native American cultures, priests of Cybele, etc. etc. etc.
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Lydia Snoddale - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 12:33:48 EST wh5oOOVd No.406677 Reply
>>406671
You only recognize male and female only because you were told that’s how things are. The existence of cultures that see more than two genders is evident enough that human brains are only condition to believe a certain way.
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Simon Lightforth - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 23:24:21 EST g/Bx05E8 No.406681 Reply
>>406671
I'm not NB and I do have a slot in my head for not-male-not-female (as in, on a first impression, gut-feeling level)--mostly from interacting with many NB people for the last 17+ years. Some people really do just read as neither.
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Emma Gezzlefield - Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:01:45 EST utsIP8Jw No.406715 Reply
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i identify as NB and iam probably about to hrt, anyone taking this route?
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Fucking Suckleford - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 00:56:48 EST HlQYHTHW No.406722 Reply
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I check /cd/ like once every 2 years for the past 6 years, previous to that I spent much more time here. I remember this board being accepting towards gender-fluid in the past. I don't remember NBs being hated here either, but I can't remember when NBs started to be more recognized as a thing.
I'm personally very accepting towards all my transgender comrades.
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Shitting Drivingpadging - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 04:23:22 EST DidgHG0G No.406730 Reply
>>406715
yeah technically, I'm kind of going through a they/them phase before I start transitioning in January, and just dressing androgynously, light make-up that sort of thing, I don't nor am I trying to pass at this point but I still get ma'amed here and there by strangers or people accidentally say "she" and correct themselves, so I'm cautiously optimistic transitioning goes well, I still got a few years of growing left at 22 and I'm already not masculine at all.

Asking people to use she/her still seems like a big ask though at this stage when I'm not at all trying to pass and have stubble despite shaving once or twice a day that I don't try to hide a lot. I think after starting to really transition I'll be more comfortable asking people to use she/her, which I slightly prefer, because to me they/them has the connotation that you don't pass, and I'd like to, but I don't find it offensive in the same way some binary trans people do.

Literally anything but he/him though, I mean fuck me up with those dumbass neo-pronouns before you call me that, but at this stage most people who don't know me do
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Molly Honeyworth - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:41:27 EST I6J8RDP7 No.406917 Reply
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>>406614
I identify as NB demiman, but no I don't need HRT.
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Phineas Gettinglag - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 18:53:19 EST a/Qz7gOP No.406925 Reply
>>406676
Countless cultures have the concept of caste.
The concept of a third gender is as superstitious as that of the caste of a Dalit or the caste of a noble.
Gender dysphoria is just a bizarre intersex disorder.
Non-binary people are just Bourgeoisie larpers.
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Augustus Blackhall - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 18:10:08 EST wh5oOOVd No.406929 Reply
>>406925
If non-binary is just a scene like goth or emo and gender dysphoria is just a bizarre intersex disorder then that means I'm just a cruel joke by whatever celestrial beings made the universe. 😲😢😭
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Phoebe Worthinglock - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 05:16:40 EST LKzeRb2X No.406947 Reply
>>406925
>proving a social construct doesn't exist by comparing it to something that objectively does exist regardless of what we think about it or what our culture's narrative about it is

that is a really big-brained analogy, you're firing on all cylinders Phineas
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foxy green - Wed, 29 Jan 2020 22:07:55 EST lWE7sWsd No.406971 Reply
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>>406614

I feel like if you are transitioning and don't at least acknowledge that

a) You are gender nonconforming and nonbinary
b) So is everyone else, and gender breaks down for everyone under close scrutiny

Then you are ultimately in for a lifetime of alienation and self hatred driven by the longing to be a part of an exclusive system which marginalizes and does not respect you.
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foxy green - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 13:55:20 EST lWE7sWsd No.406999 Reply
>>406972

I'm trans. I am radical though. As in, I have rad sneakers and play pinball and do a bunch of radical 80s shit, doood.

Read what I said again, I dare you. :)
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Clara Fudgekock - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 21:57:40 EST eYssy9wX No.407042 Reply
i've been here since like 05 or something stupid and i feel like my gender still hasn't ever really settled down, especially not on one side or other of the binary.

I used to be really dysphoric, more about body hair and shape than genitals, but enough that i transitioned like 10yrs ago, hrt, orchi, 'fulltime' (interesting that vocab seems to have disappearred...), the works. Dysphoria settled down once i stopped getting all shouldery&hairy, and i joined the itty-bitty-titty-comittee. Now it's mostly just a dull background hum of wanting a cuter butt and trimmer tummy, but who doesn't?

After a few years though femme started to feel just as perfomative as trying to just be a 'normal guy' (with a closeted crossdressing fetish). I started falling into a dykey soft-butchy look more. And then started playing with "drag king" ish looks and identifying as genderqueer. this was around 2008 and i actually remember getting bullshit from most other trans women i knew at the time for like 'slacking on passing' and being a weirdo and 'making us look bad'. I started tapering off my hormones.

lol and before long i was just feeling sexy as straight up masc boy again on occasion. boots, daddy looks, dick-swinging-swagger, etc. identifying and getting over a lot of internalized homophobia and misandry (and misogyny). I took a testosterone shot for fun (more than once) because why not. I even grew out my beard again.

But it's not like the desire to be femme on occasion stopped either. There are still nothing that beats a cute sundress for comfort and style on a hot summer day. Heels and corsets are hot and feel sexy.

Honestly all gender just feels like this funny act/illusion/ritual/mating-dance that's half artificial and totally arbitrary.

Nowadays it's honestly pretty 50/50 as to how strangers identify me. fashion nowadays is pretty androgynous anyways. jeans, t-shirt, and hoodie / plaid-flannel for life. I can usually dress to pass as a little better as whichever gender suits me at the time but I still fail to 'pass' on occasion, strangely as a boy sometimes too.
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Clara Fudgekock - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 22:04:41 EST eYssy9wX No.407043 Reply
>>407042
wow i'm terrible at my own timeline. whatever. anyways just wanted to add that i actually started taking estrogen again since i've been feeling sort of depressed and out of touch with my sex drive. it seems to be doing to trick.

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