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What testing could be done on RCs ordered online? by Eugene Wozzleford - Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:25:34 EST ID:NUJLhhhW No.77357 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I found a clearnet source for both Etizolam and Clon, but then upon checkout, this shit comes up:

>We will need a detailed account of your research methodology though before shipping any order. This an include how you will be utilizing the chemicals, what equipment is used, anticipated results, etc.

What is some things I can say? Obviously they know people are just ingesting them, yet they still have the disclaimer for Not For Human Consumption. That's fine.

But I've never seen this type of bullzhit.

anyone a science student or chemistry student or actual chemist or anything? I know some people say they can test for purity of the drugs. What would be used for that? Some type of ethanol, beakers, syringes, etc?

Charles Turveylock - Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:59:30 EST ID:rYXirDII No.77358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's their way of weeding out the stupid people from the people that research topics. I'm sorry but you failed the test.
Eugene Wozzleford - Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:46:42 EST ID:NUJLhhhW No.77359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Got 'em
Martin Blittingridge - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:52:22 EST ID:Yt22LRfT No.78581 Report Quick Reply
Bo - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:40:40 EST ID:Req4jw5M No.78582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
say this: I am using these products as intermediates in my research which is currently patent pending. It revolves only around the
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:41:57 EST ID:Req4jw5M No.78583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
around the molecules themselves that will be testing the reactions and the molecules are irrelevant and will be stored longterm over a while. However, due tot he nature of the reactions being potentially patent pending, we cannot divulge into specifics.

I would like to know more by Cornelius Sinnerfut - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:05:12 EST ID:tYqZ8S2V No.78537 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is powdering a carpet with Borax a good way to kill carpet beetles without killing the occupying human?
William Bocklewell - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:29:43 EST ID:4tmtdVyg No.78538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've used borax to assassinate the ant queen(s) before.

Mix it 1/3 parts borax, 1/3 part sugar, 1/3 part hot water. Let it cool then let the sugar solution sit out in a flat dish or something. I dunno if beetles are as sensitive to borax, but I'm sure they don't have a processing method for borax.

P2NP reductive amination by Zeb - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 15:02:04 EST ID:F56IS3nI No.78536 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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where can i find the true procedure to reduce P2NP to the amine with hgcl2/al?

How to creat Oxygen (O2) by Commander Preppy - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:36:17 EST ID:MuFe+5ez No.78510 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Let's say you're in Syria in an ai-tight room and there's poison gas detonated. What simple household materials could you use to synthesize oxygen? Is it possible to use rust as a source for instance?
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Betsy Brookwell - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 20:48:43 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you're right, fixing syria will take much more than some oxygen.

theres also the way sailors in submarines make it with eletricity and.. i forget
Cyril Soffingville - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:36:02 EST ID:ktSzG7PO No.78527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dont they just put current in water?
Press - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:49:20 EST ID:9DUR15Uh No.78529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We have a winner.
Acaelus - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 01:33:18 EST ID:vl5gPJeC No.78531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its called eletrolysis
Nicholas Biggleforth - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:48:55 EST ID:WYa1y06F No.78535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wouldn't that just end in you dying from oxygen poisoning?

N2O Synthesis by Charlotte Gozzlefoot - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 08:00:40 EST ID:fDi3lCXD No.78519 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, whippets can get expensive. Does anyone synthesize their own N2O at home/do you have a favorite method of doing so?
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Cyril Crengershit - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:17:48 EST ID:ig6EEMwa No.78528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Probably cost a few thousand and you'd need tanks and compressors and stuff.

wanted to do it for personal and friends when im ballin like a playa
Press - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:54:11 EST ID:9DUR15Uh No.78530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Theres a ton of cool shit you can do to show off your science peen. Make your own booze, grow your own shrooms, your own weeds, extract opium -although ive always failed at that- or cook your own crank. There are ways, youll find a fun hobby that also makes you more self reliant
Charles Fundlestin - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:56:02 EST ID:4tmtdVyg No.78532 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah, there's alot of shit to do with science, you just need to be able to have access to equipment.

I built a 3d printer for instance, and now I can make affordable parts for science stuff.

I want to build a CO2 extraction device, checking out builds now.

Unfortunately alot of chemistry stuff you can do at home looks like cooking drugs, so you need to be careful about what you do or else you'll end up witch hunted by the feds.
Charles Fundlestin - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:57:30 EST ID:4tmtdVyg No.78533 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Basically, you're better off constructing your own equipment.

It costs less, it advertises your witch status less, and you basically learn chemical engineering along the way.
Matilda Deshwore - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:01:56 EST ID:ig6EEMwa No.78534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cooking methamphetamine is not a non-chalant recommendation. The penalties can be upwards of twenty years....

meff heads don't give a fuck

Vaping Safety Questions by breakabond - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 04:15:28 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78523 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm going to describe a process and ask some questions at the end (though any helpful feedback is good)

  1. heroin dissolved in isopropyl alcohol
  2. baking soda added
  3. caffeine about 1:1 to lower MP
  4. iso evaporated onto foil

The end result way too baking soda and some went into my throat in scalding liquid form. Good thing heroin kills pain.

  • what's that called when two substances are mixed to create a lower boiling point?
  • Is it safe to vape that baking soda?
  • If I used soda ash, would it be safe to vape that too?
  • any recommendations?
breakabond - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 04:20:53 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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  • would acetone be better?
  • is caffeine soluble in acetone?
  • what about heroin?
  • what about baking soda?
Press - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 17:17:30 EST ID:vUcWj3D5 No.78525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its called freezing point depression. Pretty cool shit, back inna days people determined purity and molecular weight with that effect.

Vaping either baking powder or any inorganic nontoxic base wont be a problem unless you inhale too hard.

Concerning the solvent, just look for the swg drugs heroin dossier( guess thats what your chart is based on?) or someother tables to check which solvent is useable for both the HCl and the freebase. You dont have to add the caffeine while thd h is still is in solution as long as you mix it thoroughly

Id recommend using as little solvent as possible while not slowing the dissolution of the base down too much and installing gentoo just to be safe
breakabond - Wed, 08 Feb 2017 00:27:51 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That chart is from the swdrug. We dont have acetone solubiltiy info afaik then. ill stick with IPA

How much Sodium Carbonate -> basify by breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 01:17:05 EST ID:zsw9I8fO No.78484 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How much sodium carbonate would convert 1 molecule of Heroin HCl, or wait, would it be Acetate, yeah.
How much sodium carbonate 1 molecule Heroin acetate -> Heroin base.
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Oliver Fanforth - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:21:46 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oliver Fanforth - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:22:27 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh deprotofication? Is that the word?
Been 2 years since chem 2, still got it!
Oliver Fanforth - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:24:46 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay so the solution to avoiding the accidental morphine production then is to perhaps use a weaker base (is ammonia weaker? maybe just baking soda) and quickly extract it afterwards?
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:34:48 EST ID:Req4jw5M No.78498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Deprotection. Sorry, I was /benz/ed as shit when I decided to legitpost on a few boards. I mean, the information is still good.
Fuck I should teach more when I'm benzed no i really shouldn't

No. You use as little water as possible with an ice bath and then do a vacuum filtration when the freebase precipitates. I don't see why an extraction after freebasing wouldn't work. However, I don't really work with that stuff as much and have no idea if it acts like morphine chemically (it shouldn't due to no active OH groups). Alternatively, You could do the boil down and then acetylate the morphine back into diamorphine.

I'm too chemical, though. I would look up conversion between #3 and #4 or whatever on the internet. Homebaking is much easier than what I would do.
breakabond - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 01:18:50 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I used sodium carbonate super-saturated (pH was ~10-11) then added some heroin salt -> tried using hexane to extract it -> evaporated.
Evaporating is always the worst step for me, because unless you're doing a massive batch, you end up with such a small amount of freebase residue, so for max efficiency I try to evaporate directly onto foil, which means I try to make a wide dish out of foil, which often ends up breaking and leaking all over my desk, BUT when it does work Im able to vape right off that foil. The alternative would be to put it solid container, but there's ALWAYS some waste when you try to scrape it all up.

So did it get me high? barely. Not enough. Wasteful.

Changing Carbon to Silicon for new life by Frigate - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:41:29 EST ID:B2LKOBQC No.78499 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So me and this girl on one of my classes had come up with substituting Carbon for Silicon that we could get a new form of life, but one of our teachers said it was unbalanced. What does she mean?
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Press - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:24:58 EST ID:uHygcoWK No.78503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Si has a lower electronegativity which is one way of explaining that Si- bonds with certain elements behave quite different that C- bonds. Alkanes are quite unrractive whereas silanes react rapidly with water for example.

Another example of sadly untrue hypothesis about xenobiology is arsenic using rna analogues. Sadly arsenic acid esters cant substitute phosphoric acid in neither rna nor energy transport systems because they hydrloyse a looot quicker. I think NASA pushed a study about arsenic using bacteria that cost some poor women her career

The abundance of elements throughout the cosmos is also related to how heavy an element is. Thus its less likely that thered be biologies using elements beyond the second period.
Or rather, even if its possible a lot more biology systems will use second period elements.

The only xenobiology hypothesis that i really like is flourine
Using peptides since theyd behave in a distinct folding pattern eventhough F is almost isosteric to hydrogen. With flourine polymers you could build alot of additional kinds of membranes but flourine is "really" electronegative and with its ole 19 which is just a bad number for being made by stars its unlikely to play a huge role. I could dig out a few papers on that but thatd be off topic

Pic related. My kinda xenobiology
Frigate - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:42:36 EST ID:B2LKOBQC No.78504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But why tho? they have similar properties, and I'm asking why they don't work. Not because they normally bond with something else
Frigate - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:44:20 EST ID:B2LKOBQC No.78505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But why tho? I never stated anything about their bonds. I meant they are similar. My main question was why it was unbalanced.
Charlotte Drablingspear - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:49:13 EST ID:klMiQ9iI No.78511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I remember reading somewhere that scientists were able to genetically engineer a bacteria that was able to create silicon bonds, to demonstrate that silicon-based lifeforms are possible and could maybe be found somewhere else in the universe. However I do not believe that they got so far as to create a glucose molecule with silicon instead of carbons. That kind of science is probably decades or centuries away. The reaction you have there is "balanced" in the sense that there are equal numbers of each atom on both sides of the equation. I think your teacher was just trying to tell you that you are full of shit.
Esther Bublingstick - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 21:59:07 EST ID:FMRNgMnb No.78518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The electronegativity. Si forms sissy bonds compared to carbon. It's a harsh universe out there... lots of O2 and water. Without the strength and versitility of the carbon bond, silicon based lifeforms would get wrecked by the simplest forces of nature.

Anorganic Chem Q by Cedric Lightfield - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:14:04 EST ID:+xNTZBER No.78473 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So me and my colleague are arguing about whether KOH or NaOH is stronger base. While in practice it is not important, I'd argue that theoretically it must be KOH, as the enthalpy of K+ is lower, therefore KOH will be more likely to dissociate. However, the colleague is buzzing around with a dubious Pkbn from chembuddy which states that pKbn values for NaOH and KOH are 0.2 and 0.5 respectively, indicating that NaOH would in fact be a stronger base (and LiOH the strongest). Why would that be? Pls explain. pic unrel
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:37:12 EST ID:Req4jw5M No.78475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Electron density is spread out in potassium compared to sodium. This is why potassium carbonate is slightly soluble in acetone compared to sodium and why you see cesium carbonate used in research papers.
The same holds true for hydroxides.
Charlotte Drablingspear - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:02:40 EST ID:klMiQ9iI No.78512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Any difference between the two is likely very small, but I would have to say that NaOH is stronger because Na is less electronegative than K, so it is more willing to give up that OH group. Pure speculation tho
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 01:26:18 EST ID:ViNIYyYK No.78513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You are right but that's a product, not a reason. The question is WHY it is more electronegative than potassium and the answer is ironic radius trends.

Where my electrons @@@@@@@@@?
Eliza Grandwill - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 02:36:32 EST ID:vukMbHQH No.78515 Ignore Report Quick Reply

That logic makes no sense to me; I would expect Potassium to be more likely to give up the ghost due it its relatively large electron cloud. The distance of the periphery of the electron cloud to the center of the atoms nucleus should allow easier access to its valence electrons, no?

Which is why pure cesium reacts so violently in water in comparison to lithium, sodium, and potassium.

I guess what I'm saying is NaOH being stronger than KOH goes against my intuition.
Eliza Grandwill - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 02:41:50 EST ID:vukMbHQH No.78516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nvm, I gets it.

The ionic association of potassium is stronger than sodium with anions, so you would expect less dissociation as the alkali metals get heavier.

Introduction to /chem/ by Synapse - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:46:46 EST ID:rX48mQ3L No.78159 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello, I am a newcomer to this board but it seems cozy enough for me to stay here. It is a dream for me to make a home-lab one day, because univeristy labs (studying medicine) have restrictions and objections against experiments that I'm interested at.

It would be nice if you could tell more about your setups/projects/goals.

>also general current project thread
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press - Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:48:36 EST ID:85SqRSKA No.78344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that has got to be the shittiest jenkem lab ive ever seen!
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 15 Nov 2016 01:09:12 EST ID:Req4jw5M No.78347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
both of these are true
Henry Billingbanks - Mon, 12 Dec 2016 06:50:00 EST ID:2mI+Zk9G No.78398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Are you here because of the humble bundle?

Cause I'm thinking of getting a lab up after I get that workbench for christmas.

Thomas Cingerfield - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 01:45:25 EST ID:/1/rkG3K No.78506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 00:42:56 EST ID:zWHMkUyt No.78509 Ignore Report Quick Reply

E=MC^2 question by Martin Crepperfuck - Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:08:21 EST ID:E5ztys4h No.78408 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I was randomly thinking about Einsteins most popular contribution to physics, and I have a problem with it:

If E=MC^2, then how is it possible that a mass-less photon can carry any energy?

I expect there's probably a well established answer to this, but in trying to track it down I'm realizing a lot of this stuff is well above my reading level.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 01:04:56 EST ID:zRXgL70Z No.78460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good thread.

Also a good question by OP.

nb for answered question
Charles Huvinggold - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:00:39 EST ID:rybJ4K29 No.78462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hi babe, I just wonder if phen and trypt synth threads are still alive?

Also come visit us on psy every once in a while, you are a good man..
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 02:03:23 EST ID:8NEuSnNe No.78465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks! Those threads have more or less died at this point. My experiences with psychedelics is on hiatus since I my consecutive ego deaths on like 750 LSD, 35mg 2-CE, 125mg 4-AcO-DMT, and other doses similar.

That shit actually scares me to the point where weed gives me intense spiritual flashbacks and really need to take a break. Times a changed, I guess. I'll be back soon, though.

Keep grooving in the meantime and ask any question whatsoever.
Rebecca Wemmerwot - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 09:04:53 EST ID:6+KMGshk No.78492 Ignore Report Quick Reply

lol oops
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 23:00:43 EST ID:iygy/n6D No.78494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
damn where'd that response go to this post. i was gonna response to it too

Guy who wanted to mix two solids for X-Ray analysis by Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:52:25 EST ID:jTCURNhV No.78483 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I guess because of a certain news article, we can't discuss specific molecules like that here............ I suppose the molecule in question is attracting too much media attention so even on a small board such as this, it is unwise to do so?

Sorry anon for killing your thread for asking for specifics.

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