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Artifical light vs sunlight

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- Thu, 20 Feb 2020 09:46:22 EST 2oz2EJ52 No.147196
File: 1582209982192.jpg -(25537B / 24.94KB, 250x201) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Artifical light vs sunlight
Hello. This might be a weird or outright idiotic question. How much difference is there between: artifical light with lower intensity (compared to sunlight) but longer duration AND sunlight but with less duration.
For example 400W HPS lamp that would be on for 18hours a day. Compared to sunlight which would be "on" for about 12 hours a day.
Basically what i'm asking is: should i bother with outside growing if i can provide the proper temperature outside but with less uptime of light as in early-late spring or should i wait till late spring early summer to start?
As i have the choice to either grow in a box or grow outside in a greenhouse but i'm afraid the less duration of light wouldn't be sufficient even if it's more intense for AUTOFLOWERing plants.
Is there a study of some sort or a growers journal regarding this?
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Hamilton Dimmlelutch - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 07:28:47 EST 8NnaVizo No.147199 Reply
>>147196
First at the levels we usually grow cannabis the amount of usable light indoors is absolutely equivalent to sunlight.
The noon sun at the equator is about 1000W per sqm, with an average over the day of 500W at the most.
The rule of thumb of 400W per sqm for indoor lightning provides the plants with about the same amount of PAR (photosynthetic active radiation) because a higher percentage of light is in the 400-700nm region spectral region that plant can utilize.

Regarding your question in a greenhouse that depends. A lower amount of light is absolutely fine for plants that are in the growth phase or early flowering (stretching) phase. If you plan accordingly you can time it so that late flowering happens during the summer for autoflowering plants.
Regular strains however need the 10-12h of darkness which won't happen in the northern hemisphere until late august.
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Hugh Blinkinway - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:52:04 EST 2oz2EJ52 No.147200 Reply
>>147199
Thanks. Managed to find some weather stations nearby and checked their measurements for radiation in a day and based on that it's too early for starting outside. Will have to wait till early/mid April or May.

San Pedro Vs. Peruvian Torch

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- Sat, 15 Feb 2020 00:43:47 EST sI2I9RxG No.147187
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Wich cactus is better in regards to working with and mescaline content? Or does it matter?

Should I just go with the first patch I find growing? (I live in a desert climate)

Also how do I tell wich cactus r the good ones?

Help a home chemist out?
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Sophie Sennertore - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:43:07 EST ef1tcmWF No.147188 Reply
Never heard of peruvian torch but I doubt it grows as quick or is as cheap to buy as san pedro. San pedro is great for extractions, but if you just want to eat the cactus itself you're gonna want peyote so you don't have to eat a ton.
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Dextrolord - Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:37:23 EST AhM0ZTlC No.147189 Reply
>>147188
I'm not using peyote for a few reasons, its endangered, and I don't want to trespass on any of the reservations and piss off the indians right before a psychedelic trip lol u ever dosed on their land before? It was quite the experience

I'm gonna go with the San Pedro cuz it's whats mentioned in the teks I found
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Betsy Clenderbury - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 02:38:11 EST wSjgd1Mz No.147198 Reply
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>>147188
"San Pedro" is Trichocereus Pachanoi. Peruvian torch is Trichocereus Peruvianus. There are two of the "big three" columnars the other being Bolivian torch (Trichocereus Bridgesii)

The "quick growing" T. Pach aka PC or PachaNOT is shit for extractions and has very low mescaline content. See: https://troutsnotes.com/pachanot/ Without knowing what you are looking for you can be assured that most San Pedros for sale are PC.

Typical Bridgesii, Pach, and Peruvianus cultivars all grow at about the same rate and have similar mescaline content with Peruvianus being higher on average. However this number varies greatly due to the huge amount of variables that have an impact on the mescaline(and other active alkaloid) production.

Due to the price, slow growth speeds, lack of availability, protected status, legality, conservation, etc it doesn't make sense to choose L. Williamsii over a columnar if you are just brewing a batch. With the right columnars you can come pretty close to the mesc content of L. Williamsii as well.

>>147187
OP this is a very difficult question and depends on a ton of factors. Desert climate doesn't come close to providing enough info to tell you which would be better. Are you able to easily ID T. Peru V. T. Pach V. PC? In the most general sense look for the oldest stand you can find and take old growth not new. If you happen upon some with mutant characteristics like crisate or monstrosus go for one of those. Generally the slower growing the higher the mesc content but again its variable.

My dad calls these dates but I don't think they are!

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!HPTMzdQr/2 - Tue, 28 Jan 2020 06:39:16 EST 9PYcFyit No.147172
File: 1580211556156.jpg -(1750760B / 1.67MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. My dad calls these dates but I don't think they are!
They are a small round yellow fruit growing on a palm like plant but they are round and but elongated. Maybe a different kind or something?

Pic is one of the fruits and one of the seeds, anyone know?
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Shitting Goodman - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 00:47:34 EST 1u1aYgGg No.147175 Reply
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Looks like a loquat
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Hamilton Heddleway - Mon, 17 Feb 2020 11:07:57 EST 2cxf7iI1 No.147191 Reply
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Here's more dates for comparison
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Betsy Clenderbury - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 02:01:49 EST wSjgd1Mz No.147197 Reply
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>>147175
Easy to confuse but that is definitely P. Dactylifera in OP's pic. pic related

One plant not flowering right

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- Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:14:05 EST IoWzXUQd No.147193
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So, I'm over 6 weeks into flowering, I've already harvested five of my plants, all beautiful, smoke great, good buzz, all chopped pretty much on time with what I expected. I have one plant though, that still only looks like it's three weeks along. A lot of pistils, all stark white, looks kinda like pic related. I'm growing in a cabinet, all the plants under the same light, literally inches from each other, all on the same exact schedule. I'm growing from bagseed, so I know there can be differences in the plants, but goddamn, it should be relatively on the same schedule.
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Beatrice Blatherworth - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 05:50:48 EST x6akZYQa No.147195 Reply
>>147193
i have a seed line i grow where the females all tend to keep on adding new pistils and not doing too much else for about the first 8 weeks and then they all start filling out and its done at 11-12 weeks

Crystal Skull OG

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- Sun, 09 Feb 2020 13:39:57 EST GlUkS0nh No.147181
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I have 2 of these growing.
I think they started to flower around the first week of December. They should be ready now right? It's been 8 weeks if it flowered mid-December.
What do y'all think?
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Homegrownmids - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:10:23 EST o9599e0V No.147186 Reply
>>147184
Saw it when I posted it. Nothing to worry about, wasn't a bug nor an egg but thank you for actually looking at my pic.
>>147185 two more weeks. Hmmmm. Okay I'll bite, I'll wait. Super impatient but patience is key here. Thanks!
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Hamilton Heddleway - Mon, 17 Feb 2020 11:06:02 EST 2cxf7iI1 No.147190 Reply
>Crystal Skull OG
IT'S CHRONIC

First Plant

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- Sun, 26 Jan 2020 07:05:00 EST RQ5itwAY No.147165
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So I've never ever planted canna. before, and it's kinda hard to sort through all the different variants of how to go about it.
I'm limited to growing 1-3 plants at most, I'll have to use a growbox.
What would be the currently most power efficient way to grow under these limations with modern tooling and lights?
I seem to remember using alu-foil inside the box to reflext as much light as possible, to make it less wasteful.

Are CFL still a thing? Or is some kind of LEDs where it's at nowadays?

Timer broke

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- Mon, 03 Feb 2020 06:27:19 EST 69iLPz6a No.147176
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My timer busted and I only noticed after plants got 2 and a half hours extra light during flower, one is beginning of week 5 the other is almost at week 3.

I gave them 12 hours of dark once I noticed but the problem here is I kinda need them to stay on 7am-7pm, but this fuck up means they'd be on 10.30-10.30pm if I continued like this, would I be able to shut the lights off at 7pm, give them a short day and just move them back to 7-7 or should I stay on 10.30-10.30?
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Charles Nenningham - Mon, 03 Feb 2020 19:16:21 EST ef1tcmWF No.147179 Reply
Who knows what is best, it probably won't be that big of a deal either way. Let us know how it turns out.

What is opium?

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- Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:17:12 EST IKwo+eWk No.147155
File: 1579655832818.jpg -(63941B / 62.44KB, 767x1024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What is opium?
Sooo... what if someone wants to start growing opium flower? Acquiring the seeds is legal to my knowledge, growing perhaps, but harvesting is obviously not? How long does it take for it to grow? Do you get new seeds from it which you can plant or do they need to be 'activated' or something? Will it smell? (Pardon my lack of understanding of basic biological/botanical terms and science.) How much of codeine could you produce from a single plant for personal use for back pain relief? How difficult and dangerous is the harvesting proces? How likely would grow succeed without special equipment; window board, sunlight, tap water and spoiled fruits/veggies? Researching for a novel I'm writing, of course.
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Charles Clambleford - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 04:24:47 EST OTAS8VZ2 No.147161 Reply
>>147160
You have time for botany school, and you should go.
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Hannah Dengergold - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 19:28:40 EST ///BrKZr No.147167 Reply
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ez grow, plant in early spring. extracting the dried plants is easier than trying to collect the latex
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Albert Wigglecocke - Thu, 30 Jan 2020 16:40:46 EST nwpyv++5 No.147174 Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfUfugkRavg

Here's a decent starting point with some good info. I've been wanting to grow my own poppies for personal use this year and since nobody else on this shitty website is helping, I figured I would.

let's help each other identify plants

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- Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:46:39 EST OTAS8VZ2 No.147162
File: 1579808799973.jpg -(5711673B / 5.45MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. let's help each other identify plants
Post plants you don't know, and hopefully someone will come and tell us what it is

I found pic related on my walk today. Never seen one before. It has lots of thorns.
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Hannah Dengergold - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 19:26:36 EST ///BrKZr No.147166 Reply
did you try smoking it yet?
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Esther Clivinglere - Wed, 29 Jan 2020 12:37:35 EST WYIOFa8K No.147173 Reply
>>147168
I hate those things dude they suck it's like stinging nettle's bitch ass cousin

mycology experiment

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- Mon, 27 Jan 2020 08:21:24 EST FSvWWPkn No.147169
File: 1580131284754.jpg -(113975B / 111.30KB, 720x1280) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. mycology experiment
in australias summer
from the local picking spot of subaeruginosa variety, soil samples were taken from various patches of the magic woods, be it summer, we could see no visible mushroom activity and picked spots at random.. (happened to be in the area)
questions are:
if put in a garden pot in shady area at home and watered, could i get lucky and grow some backyard shrooms?
is there a way to use these soil samples to do an indoor grow with a tub
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Wesley Mapperfoot - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 17:54:57 EST OTAS8VZ2 No.147171 Reply
>>147169
Not sure this belongs on /crops/ seeing as how these are FUNGUS not PLANTS. Nevertheless I will consult my mycologist friend and get back to you. Just emailed him a minute ago.

Growing in Texas, in a bucket. Help lol

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- Wed, 22 Jan 2020 15:17:12 EST 5RgnROUM No.147159
File: 1579724232956.jpg -(40775B / 39.82KB, 750x738) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Growing in Texas, in a bucket. Help lol
Aight, my niggies, and niggets, I wanna grow.
I live in Texas, around the Austin area and I wanna know what I need to do if I just wanna grow in my side yard in a container, I have bricked and cemented flooring mix and can't plant into ground, I have a roof over it and could easily bring it out for the lil pupper to sun bathe but have no clue what to do to get started, any quick tips and or sites for a niggy to use? It's kinda cold but as you know summers are hot and wanna know how to work around it.
Thanks ya potties and others alike!

AutoFlowers 2 of them

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- Mon, 06 Jan 2020 12:47:09 EST 2HM7ailp No.147130
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The 7gal fabric pot is holding a ManBearAlienPig seed....somewhere. I was putting the seed in the soil last when it fell outta my hand into the soil in a random spot. I tried looking for it to no avail. Should I keep watering it and wait for it to sprout or should I take the L and pop another seed.

The red cup is holding a 3Bears OG crossed with Heisenberg Special, Tooth Decay and Strawberry Nuggets.

Both of these are auto flowers
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Homegrownmids - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:12:37 EST QGdtflWI No.147151 Reply
>>147150
Because that's how I've always done it. Transplanting autos is no bueno. Regular seeds don't get shocked when transplanted but autos do. Although, I have one auto in a solo cup as you can see. For me, my results have always been better when I start I'm the finishing pot. The site where I go these autos from say you should start them in the finishing pot to avoid shocking the plant.

I just harvested my pieface og 40grams.
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Ian Trothood - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 13:27:19 EST OTAS8VZ2 No.147153 Reply
>>147150
We start plants in smaller containers when they're being stored in an outdoor nursery, because it prevents growth of weeds on the seedling. In a big pot there's too much empty space around the seed where weeds can grow. It looks like OP's growing indoors, so it's a lot less likely that weeds will pop up in his pot.

>>147151
Do the autos go into shock, even if you transplant into fertilizer and water with cold water immediately afterwards?
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Homegrownmids - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:02:26 EST 0wQesvHA No.147154 Reply
>>147153
I bring them indoors and supplement with indoor light. I give them all the sunlight available, not a nursery, they just sit on top of my patio roof for Max sun.

This is my first time growing an autoflower. I've only read transplanting shocks the autos but I haven't read too much into it, I'm just winging it honestly. I've grown regular seeds before but I'm much more comfortable with clones. I've grown regular seeds in much bigger pots and also even dixie cup shot glasses. I'm assuming autos are much more sensitive. From people who grow autos -"it takes more skill to grow an auto than a reg" from people who grow regs - "autos are for people who can't grow" it's a trip. I'm not an expert grower but I know what works for me, and so far what works for me doesn't work for an auto.

Day 1

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- Mon, 06 Jan 2020 17:42:19 EST rLNTyJe4 No.147131
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Step one
Growin from the basics soil, seeds, and water.
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Ian Trothood - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 13:19:45 EST OTAS8VZ2 No.147152 Reply
>>147149
It can take a while. Keep checking on them and take notes, so you can evaluate and improve your germination protocol.

Generic Soil

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- Mon, 09 Dec 2019 14:32:36 EST DFGg657z No.147082
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Are there any good hardware store soils for marijuana planting? Will any organic miracle gro do fine?
Can someone give me a rundown of the nitrogen problem with extended release fertilizers?

What I'm really asking: If I use miracle gro and use nutes/water to control the pH and moisture, will my plants still grow up big, healthy, and delicious?
I'll be at the store later to look for better growing mediums but I doubt they have them available.
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Betsy Dossleteck - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 14:02:47 EST efK8xsEQ No.147085 Reply
>>147082

NPK is listed on media label, telling you the ratio of Nitrogen to Phosphorous to Potassium. 3-1-1 is good start for seedlings. Make sure to do your math with fertilizers in order to keep your nitrogen up until flowers start forming, then you can gradually amend your media to a 1-3-2 as P and K are used in flower production. Keep in mind that if you're unfamiliar with this cultivar, then you will have to feel out the best ratios feeding habits by trial and error.

pH ought to be between 5.8 and 6.5 .
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Doris Pirrylock - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 12:20:01 EST zl5AIPG0 No.147142 Reply
Check what brand the local garden growers are using
Im using a store chain brand that a find has decent price/quality
check for something called soil fraction on the bag, this means the maker take things serious

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