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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

It starts

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- Fri, 21 Aug 2015 23:48:38 EST djYsvRob No.140610
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Came home from work and my new seedling has sprouted!

Strain is Dinafem's Blue Cheese. According to Dinafem, flowering time for Blue Cheese is 50 days, and should begin before the plant reaches 15 inches.

Grow medium is Fox Farm's Ocean Forest mixed 50/50 with perlite in a 4-gallon grow pot. Nutes are Fox Farms trio, Grow Big, Big Bloom, and Tiger Bloom. From what I understand, Ocean Forest is nutrient-rich enough that adding nutes isn't necessary until flowering begins.

I'll be vegging her under a 2 ft T5 with two 24-watt bulbs, and three 42 watt CFLs. At the moment only the T5 and one of the CFLs is on, the other two will come on once she gets a little bigger. For flower, I'll be using a 300 watt Mars Hydro LED. The LED arrived earlier today, never used one before. Despite being pretty cheap, construction is solid and all the lights work properly. There's no on/off switch, which I don't like, but it shouldn't be an issue.

I don't know whether I'll be scrogging this plant or mainlining.
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press !XIxc6BpKnU - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 07:18:36 EST V9l2ysWH No.145569 Reply
>>145567
also, sorry for double posting but what do you mean by grey concerning your PE bag?
sure its not cobweb?
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Edwin Hannerstine - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 04:26:39 EST K7elgYR+ No.145589 Reply
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Week five of flower.

Clones all recovered from transplant, growing nicely. Strangely, IG#3 on the far right has developed buds, and its fan leaves are covered with trichomes. Reminds me of the first time I grew an auto.

>>145568
I'm a newbie to shroom growing, and the bag tek seemed like a cheap and low risk starting point. For the most part it's worked well, it was easy to integrate into the grow room, prep and maintenance has been pretty easy, and it's still giving flushes. I've tripped almost daily for the past month and still have plenty of shrooms to last until the new bags start yielding. That said, will probably move on to jars and tubs once I get more experienced. The pack of six 1-pound bags cost $33 shipped so not a huge investment, a nice pressure cooker, agar solutions, laminar hood, ect are all on the wishlist for the future.

>>145569
Noticeably darker in color than the GT, not nearly as fluffy. Lots of yellow fluidy excretions. It may indeed be cobweb. Probably gonna toss the two PE's outside into the mulch pile.
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press !XIxc6BpKnU - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 06:50:48 EST 5Bse8gaJ No.145590 Reply
>>145589
i wouldnt toss them since at the moment theyre still well contained and some cubensis mycellium can be very whispy. a good way to identify cobweb without a magnifying glass is to measure the speed at which the mycellium spreads.
but the secretion sounds like cubensis fighting off some bacteria never had cobweb do that before. if you should have to toss it be sure not to carry too much spores back to your grow room.

and hey, congratulations on taking up such a nice hobby.
im still amazed that its possible to turn horseshit into such a great drug

and you really dont have to have a laminar flowhood eventhough it makes so much more comfortable, a big SAB is good enough for agar work and prepping inoculant syringes.

Shrooms-Pint glass/jam jars rye tek

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- Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:44:10 EST CdeKassd No.145578
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Brit here who can't get them wide mouth canning jars unless he orders online.I don't want to do that.
I've read this brand of jam jars in the picture are fine to use.Any one used them ? I have a 9ml syringe how many of these 370g jars could I fill up(will be using a mono tub afterwards)

Also read you can use pint drinking glass.just put a bit of tyvek over the top then wrap 3 layers of tin foil over the top.
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Augustus Grandson - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 09:04:28 EST CdeKassd No.145581 Reply
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what about this jam jar ?
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Augustus Grandson - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:26:24 EST CdeKassd No.145582 Reply
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>>145581
Or this big jar of polish.

Also I'm thinkgoing big of using popcorn instead of rye as I can't find it any where
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press !XIxc6BpKnU - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 13:25:37 EST F2n040Hc No.145588 Reply
>>145578
you can use jar without a threading, but id recommend against it.
those glasses are good but you'd have a lot of marmelade. couldnt you order spawn bags over the internet? i really like to use bags for monotubs. any kind of jar that has a top with a popping mechanism will work

>add gypsum to your grain as you soak them
>i normally tape the holes up with medical pore tape, instead of tyvek, but thats only because i find it more convenient
>pressure cook for atleat 90min at 15psi, be careful not to have the glasses in direct contact with the bottom of the cooker.
>be sure to shake the syringe, dont mix the grains after injecting. the spores have to come in contact with eachother, shake at 30% percent colonization

id recommend against popcorn, i find it finicky to get the moisture right. popcorn often ends in bacterial contamination for me. if you could order online you can get it really cheap

id recommend getting the biggest PC you can afford as long as you know it runs at atleast 15psi. once youve chosen a PC you can calculate which jars would fill it in the most efficient way

im really high right now, please feel free to ask any questions

howto tell when ready?

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- Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:34:47 EST SaNmv8i2 No.145535
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what am i looking for to tell my weed is ready to be harvested? i know i have a month or so left to wait as i'm only in the 6th week.
what should a ready to harvest bud look like? here are three buds of 3 different plants to see where i am at.
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INTERPOL !3mB4iDBpWw - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:10:38 EST uUnVQb2w No.145574 Reply
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>>145559

When your trichomes/crystals start to lean over like this, and when they're roughly half milky and half amber in color, is when it's done and ready to harvest.
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Lillian Garringdale - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:09:00 EST 3FKmUudm No.145575 Reply
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A plant is ready for harvest when all the stigmas have turned orange/brown and receded into the calyxes which should be swollen. At this point the trichome heads will be milky and amber. If there are white stigmas left in the plant, it's more than likely not ready. Sometimes new white stigmas appear when the plant is under stress, for example if it's being flushed. Stigmas that appear at this point should be ignored.

Pictured plant is almost ready to be harvested. Pictured plant is not ready for harvest even though most of the stigmas on most of the buds were orange.

Seed in my weed

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- Fri, 13 Oct 2017 18:10:48 EST paCUvU57 No.145480
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2-3 weeks ago i found a seed in my weed. I decided "why the hell not" . So i planted in a decent sized pot, with flower soil, fertilizer included. had it under a halogen light for the first 1 1/2 week. This week bought a Led grow light, pretty sexpensive. Does it look ok to be around 3 weeks old? Should i tranplant it not or wait. got no idea what the roots look like at this point, dont even know how to lift it all out of the pot.

thankfull for tips and stuff. And i know i want a female. but a male could work too. how many grams yield am i looking at if its a male? think in terms of cannabutter.
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Augustus Blizzlewill - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:13:14 EST paCUvU57 No.145571 Reply
>>145570
Also its decidedly female. Im 99% sure. the small pistils that become the buds are pointy and long and not small and round.
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Augustus Blizzlewill - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:17:03 EST paCUvU57 No.145572 Reply
>>145570
And i can see why bigger lights are better. the lower branches arent getting as much light as they would in the wild.
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INTERPOL !3mB4iDBpWw - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:06:43 EST uUnVQb2w No.145573 Reply
>>145570

It's looking great now, right before the stage it's at now, like a week prior, is when you can start to feed it a complete veg formula and not have to worry about it being stunted. That plant in week 5 is what most should look like in week 4.

Sickness after budding

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- Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:44:39 EST JpZIiZ6j No.145198
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My plants were doing fairly well, but after they started budding they came down with something nasty. Any ideas? I'm currently using Maxsea 5-20-20 3x a week
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Hannah Clozzleledge - Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:07:20 EST 9zvqH7Gp No.145270 Reply
>>145248
I live in Northern California. It's extremely hot here
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Oliver Nabblemure - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:29:49 EST k0f5YupH No.145309 Reply
>>145198
OK the burnt tips in this pic look like signs of micronutrient defiency; most likely Mg or Zn.

>>145213
the cupped leaves here are a sign the plant is trying to dissipate moisture from it's system.

>>145214
yellowing of the leaves starting a the bottom are a sign of nitro deficency, but the purpling of the stems indicates that it's not N you're lacking, but sulphur.

>>145215
The spotting and discoloration are another sign of micronute def. Looks like Mn.

Most likely what you need to do is add a moderate doase of a good broad-spectrum micronutrient; specifically one high in sulphur, manganese and zinc. Also, don't water quite so often. Water absorbs and retains heat much better than earth or matrix does and NorCal gets enough sun that constantly sopping roots become a breeding ground for pythia and root rot, both of which can produce that "burnt" look at the edges and tips of leaves. Add a little H2O2 to your nutrient solution when wattering for a few weeks to kill any root-pathogens that may have cropped up.

TL;DR

Don't neglect your micro regimin, invest in a hydometer, and detox your rootbed.
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Caroline Murdstone - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 22:19:32 EST DdLNYW5u No.145564 Reply
>>145309
no fucking idea what I'm talking about but I saw 2 infographics about muhdeficiencies, the post

please stop spreading the micronutrient meme around, 95% of cases is something completely unrelated to micronutrients, and 4,95% you can fix those micronutrient related problems by fixing your pH/stopping salt build up

OP, looks like overwatering+mites+overall shitty feeding regime, but it probably doesn't matter anymore because I'm replying to a fucking 2 months old thread anyway

this board sucks man

What is this?

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- Sun, 08 Oct 2017 04:38:20 EST ytu2Dtd5 No.145464
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Diagnose this please. Happens to the oldest and biggest leaves first, eventually spreads to the whole plant until nothing is left. Happens in the first month of vegetation, growth is halted, plants never become more than 30cm tall before this hits.

Growing in soil. Soil is a nice airy mix. Not overwatering. Ph is normal for water and soil. Temperatures are normal. Light is not too close.
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INTERPOL !3mB4iDBpWw - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:42:52 EST uUnVQb2w No.145544 Reply
>>145495

Potassium would have mottled leaves, this kind of looks like zinc to me, it yellows the leaf in reverse from an iron deficiency from the tip backwards with interveinal chlorosis


What type of water do you start out with, OP? You should be starting out with rainwater or PH balanced water with NOTHING in it zero PPM to start. You then add your Cal/Mag, then regular nutes, balance the PH again to around 6.3-6.7, keep your PPM's below 900 for indoor until you get used to your strain and what it requires.
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Nathaniel Smallhood - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 04:27:47 EST f4mvSiNj No.145551 Reply
>>145464
my homime says your giving it TOO much light, it doesnt matter that its too close. or just heat stress. but he says it could be a combo of a few things, too much light + too hot. not deficiencys, it mostly only happens on the bottom leaves of the plant, because its your sun leaves first he says its heat+too much light. your welcome.
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Caroline Murdstone - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 21:39:19 EST DdLNYW5u No.145561 Reply
>>145544
full blown enthusiasmo growing methods

OP, what exactly are you feeding your plants? post exact soil, ferts and regime, and tell me you've actually calibrated your ph-meter please, also pics of your growroom would help immensely

Weed

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- Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:53:35 EST aWb7Y/oB No.145126
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Top is Northern Lights, left is Blue Cheese and right is Strawberry Cough.

Strawberry is being a bit crippled, was bent over at an angle and looks kinda yellow. Grown strawberry before and it's comparatively short for a sativa so with some training height shouldn't be a problem. Looking forward to seeing how they do.
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Eugene Shakeworth - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:47:32 EST aWb7Y/oB No.145529 Reply
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>>145513

Turns out the blue cheese is the low yielding sativa leaning pheno like the one I posted above again, super stretchy and spindly :( Other 2 plants responded really well to the liberal trimming and are looking to have nice long uniform buds on each stem with a few small ones in the middle that stretched up.

Got sent a huge bag of horse manure instead of soil from an amazon seller today, called to find out what happened and they said they don't actually sell the brand of soil they were advertising, only a 'similar product'. Horse shit is not similar to soil.
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Betsy Domblecocke - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:45:01 EST aWb7Y/oB No.145531 Reply
>>145529

I put a seed in to some tissue to germ once my order of soil had been dispatched, however I've had to order a new bag after the manure mix up. The seed has germinated and has a small taproot, will the seed be ok left in the tissue until tomorrow when the seed comes, or should I grab some of the soil from the sides / corners of the plants I have going now to fill up a tiny starter pot and put it in that to hold it over?

tldr, will a germed seed be ok left in the tissue for just over 24 hours until the soil arrives?

Shrooms 'R' Us

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- Fri, 13 Oct 2017 23:29:07 EST vSpd/l0n No.145486
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Where all the shroom growers at?
Shroom stories, shroom growing progress, anything!
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James Wudgeridge - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 03:56:31 EST WB40ZSWX No.145507 Reply
What a world it would be, to get high so often that being sober was an exciting thing.

>>145500
Sounds like exactly what I'm doing, except I haven't ordered my spores yet. Where did you order yours from?

>>145504
Yo, sounds like a good job, does it pay well?
Just watch out for job hazards.
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Ebenezer Clummermock - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 15:51:53 EST 5J6yurAR No.145510 Reply
>>145507
4 gr of dried shrooms in my country cost $17,5. By the way, is it a legit price for the 1st world countries? Had I an opportunity (and I kinda got it), I would make 1 kg on a trial basis during two months. That would make $4375 at best. I get 40% of the dough, so it's ~$1750 (at max, yet not less than $800 a month) in two months. Wiki says it's a median salary in Poland, lol.
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Graham Billingspear - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:11:07 EST PjEDWNs1 No.145511 Reply
>>145507

www.mushrooms.com brother.

Their spore syringes are loaded to the point that you can see clumps of spores in the solution.

New farmer

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- Sat, 17 Jun 2017 06:01:38 EST tV1NL7o5 No.144868
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Hey guys. I haven't been here in a while. I used to spend every day on this board back in like 2012-2013 when I was first learning to grow. I moved to Washington state about a year ago with big dreams of opening my own rec farm and swinging for the big leagues. I ended up having my financier back out and have been stuck trying to scrape by to make a living. I had zero luck trying to get a job in the production side of the industry until yesterday when out of the blue I get a call from a family friend saying that she just got hired as an office administrator for a farm and that the owner just fired his head grower and she told him all about me and he wanted me to come in for an interview like right now. So i drive out there and have a 2 hour conversation with the dude about what I know about growing and he hires me on the spot and I start Monday.

All that said, though I have been growing off and on for the past 5 years... the largest crop that I had ever tended to was 20 plants for a med grow in Denver and pretty much all I did was set up his lighting and hydro and co2 and left the grow itself in his hands. other than that I grew 4 plants in a grow tent for a couple crops with my buddy in college. Though I have read several text books and blogs and forums about growing and could tell you just about anything you'd want to know about how to grow because I do have a deep true passion for the art and its the one thing I've ever done that i feel completely confident in my ability to do... I have basically no experience and I am about to be in charge of a 2000 sq ft grow operation in a 15000 sq ft warehouse that the owner wants to expand as fast as we can afford to and I'm kind of shitting bricks right now. This is a brand new farm by the way. They just finished curing their second crop which yielded about 12 lbs. I'm very confident that if I had been there from the beginning and helped set up the operation and grow rooms and helped work through the first two harvests that I would be like the most qualified person on earth to run the thing and produce top shelf nugs all day. But coming in 4 months later with a method and equipment put together by someone else rocking nutes I've never heard of growing proprietary strains that only our genealogist has ever grown before? I'm a little worried I'm getting myself in over my head. I am simultaneously excited as hell to just be handed my dream job without ever even applying for it, and nervous that I won't figure out the system before the owner kicks my ass to the curb like he did the last guy. Is there anyone here who's ever run an operation this big that's got a little advice for me? Any encouragement or warnings or amusing anecdotes would be greatly appreciated. TIA.

Pic is some shatter I blasted.
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Fucking Fuckingstock - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:03:46 EST HPS5NW+5 No.145408 Reply
>>145406
Lovely stuff, I hope your boss invested in a bud trimming machine.
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Augustus Suppernare - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 14:37:53 EST hdAReoRz No.145410 Reply
>>144868
Wicked stuff my man, looking to do something similar where I live as the law is changing swiftly, for the good.

Digging the advice. Helps out alot if I get the gig! And is great knowledge to have for the future!

Just out of interest how much is your income? I live in a different country but I'm just intersted as to what to charge for this sort of job. If i get the opportunity to persue it.

I'm not interested in big bucks but I do enjoy not having to worry too much.

These were the top 25 searched weed strains for Sept. 2017

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- Fri, 06 Oct 2017 18:17:18 EST pN125xCR No.145462
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Regardless of whether you purchased 3.5 grams of Forbidden Fruit, Candyland, or Gorilla Glue #4, September’s average retail price was approximately $37 per eighth for a “Top 25 Strain.”

Read more: http://weedma.ps/2yMFRDs

Houseplants

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- Sun, 01 Oct 2017 21:01:52 EST Il1PDv1R No.145438
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Are any of you guys plant hoarders? Of the regular less fun kind?
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Shitting Sorringsen - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 19:30:43 EST ol/Sob4l No.145441 Reply
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>>145439
get a jade plant next
very tough and you can prune it into a little tree

covering outdoor plants from frost

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- Sat, 30 Sep 2017 18:34:00 EST bbgJBsyZ No.145434
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First time grower here now that I legally can in the state of Maine and I was watching the weather not long ago and heard we might have some frost coming our way tonight. It's supposed to get warm again starting tomorrow and the plants still have a little longer to go(the hairs on the buds are still white). Just wondering if I should cover them.
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Charlotte Mimmerban - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 19:05:00 EST HPS5NW+5 No.145435 Reply
You would need a poly tunnel in Maine
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George Dittingpag - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 16:02:18 EST 5Oi/BJlT No.145437 Reply
>>145434
I'd cover them. Your big bug-a-boo is moisture now. Cool temps and moisture = bud rot. Been fighting it like Spartans down here in eastern Massholia. I started covering during rains, and so far so good. Others have not been so lucky.

Temp-wise cannabis is pretty hardy. Once it is big enough, it can fend off low temps like a champ. Especially the stuff bred to grow outside in places like BC, northern Europe, etc. In fact, after last night's cold snap, I noticed that my buds have actually retracted a bit, and are nice and dense. Just a week or two longer and I should be harvesting some dense nuggets. Cold night temps also give you purps, if the plant is so inclined. Just cover it at night when rain, dew or frost is predicted. If the day is the usual sunny, warmish fall, you get this time of year, then uncover the plants and let them soak in the sun. You don't even need to wholly cover them. Just a clear plastic tarp from Home Depot and four stakes. Make a canopy to keep the rain and dew out while allowing the natural air circulation you need to keep the buds dry. A light breeze on a sunny day is your friend.
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James Trotdock - Wed, 04 Oct 2017 19:14:01 EST 5Oi/BJlT No.145443 Reply
>>145437
Yeah, well I had to harvest because I got the bud rot. Just a bit, but still...would have been nice to have had another couple of weeks.

First grow

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- Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:27:49 EST G+bi42x1 No.145411
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Oh hey, i'm getting close to the end of my first grow (outdoor) and my plants are starting to bud. Now the weather has been quite shitty with alot of clouds and temperatures going from 16 to 20-something degrees celcius, sometimes it gets colder at night.
Is there anything i can do to relieve them from the lack of light and warmth? I've been putting them inside after sundown for the last couple days, was this a good idea or am i just being a dumbass? Thanks!
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Nell Brookbury - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:03:57 EST HPS5NW+5 No.145413 Reply
>>145411
when did you start them they are in really early flower. spring for lights finish them indoors
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Augustus Hupperspear - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 04:36:43 EST G+bi42x1 No.145414 Reply
>>145413
Yeah that worried me aswell, i planted them in the end of march, one is a critical by dinafem, the other was a freebie i got, i believe it's an ak47. Will look around for lamps, cheers
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Eliza Murdhall - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 16:14:53 EST m1YlV/RV No.145440 Reply
>>145411
Get hold of an indoor setup and finish their cycle there, the weather gets cooler by the day...

led's ftw

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- Sun, 24 Sep 2017 21:26:11 EST LfZmouum No.145402
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under a sk600 led.
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Nell Brookbury - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:55:26 EST HPS5NW+5 No.145417 Reply
>>145416
It is not new technology. Where did you get that idea? You are paying for the over engineered heatsink. 2 x 300w LED floodlights would do as well as it and standard COBs are easily replaced.
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Phoebe Drallysotch - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:03:52 EST abG39bIs No.145424 Reply
>>145417
New in the market sense. A light identical to the one he is using will be a fraction of the price once the chinks start making them and they have to lower their prices to compete with them.
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Nicholas Nallerkack - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:43:31 EST HPS5NW+5 No.145426 Reply
>>145424
There is nothing special about it. It is just 650w of LEDs.

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