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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

the mushroom thread

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- Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:31:09 EST Az88fn/6 No.146320
File: 1537713069048.jpg -(1058632B / 1.01MB, 2048x1536) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. the mushroom thread
have you grown mushrooms? are you going mushrooms at the moment? post your shit, i'm interested! i'm on my 4th or 5th grow now, had a bit of a hiatus/depressed laziness so this took a while to get going but anways...

i'll post a few pics of my project that i started on the 12th of this month (cambodian spore syringe i made from a print)

here's the pf cakes i made
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poopress - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 17:07:37 EST RoIGzPYx No.146432 Reply
>>146423
yeah most common contams wont really take hold on mycellium
besides
oyster mushrooms are pretty darn fierce when it comes to beating contaminants, at least when compared to cubensis
but i highly doubt that youd speed up colonization this way. complete colonization is one of the strongest fruiting triggers. if you had multiple jars id say go for it and tesst your idea but since you only have one, youd have no idea wether or not it had any impact even if you should succeed

keep in mind that youll lose water if you leave the spawn exposed to the elements. i havent growm oysters indoors but i think youll need someway of maintaining a high RH% around the spawn
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Graham Crallerfuck - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:03:22 EST VtiMRvcI No.146438 Reply
Is it still legal to ship spores to Wisconsin

Finding a place to grow

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- Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:02:06 EST +W+NnLuT No.146290
File: 1535594526445.jpg -(113368B / 110.71KB, 500x375) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Finding a place to grow
I've been wanting to grow my own green for a while now but i'm too pussy to actually start.
I don't have much room in my house, and its above a business on a main street in whiteass suburbs. is there any way i could find a place outside to grow? would growing deep in the fucking woods work?
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Doris Clablingdog - Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:54:41 EST 5ZH1La2e No.146373 Reply
>>146367
Bad idea. Park rangers aren't who you have to worry about, state fish and game police are. They're state police and make over $100k + benefits in most states so bribing them will not ever work. They're also usually people who have learned to hate all manner of druggies with a passion thanks to vagrant faggots and shitty cartel beaners planting tons of weed in a forest they've been struggling to keep healthy and happy for years.
Also if they find your grow out in the woods sometimes they'll just sit there and wait for days until you come back because they can afford the time and energy to do so being part of the state police.
If your grow is big enough they'll straight up shoot you since most large grows are owned by gangs and are heavily armed.
Furthermore since it's on federal land you get to serve federal prison time and come under federal and state jurisdiction; you will be fucked in all holes both literally and figuratively for a long ass time.
Far safer and less hassle to just make some closet space.
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Betsy Sosslestad - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 01:17:18 EST 1hIdt5BN No.146436 Reply
>>146290

depends, I learned apparently marijuana is deer crack the hard way.

I only had a couple plants and tried over and over for a few years, but every time when they'd get about knee high the deer would find them.
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Esther Congerpon - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:16:26 EST nQjxiw+L No.146439 Reply
friend of mine used to grow in his living room. had a grow tent with a proper carbon filter and you couldnt smell shit. dude even had his parents over one time and they didnt even notice lmao
tent was like 24x24x60 and even tho he was totally incompetent he still got 3 maybe 4 ounches every harvest

so ye, just get a proper carbon filter and think of a clever disguise

I dont believe in plants

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- Sat, 10 Nov 2018 03:21:28 EST jPJuqe+T No.146434
File: 1541838088850.png -(496698B / 485.06KB, 1024x576) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I dont believe in plants
they are probably just government cameras that spy on us

>I mean how can something that looks like wheat become something that looks like bread?

I'm not saying that the UN is involved but I mean those black helicopters weren't just swamp gas if you know what I mean.
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poopresstitution - Sat, 10 Nov 2018 09:21:13 EST GLH+CuAz No.146435 Reply
i heard that plants listen to music
all that shit about playing mozart to your mushrooms to make them more intelligent

you say UN but you really meant ((((((((((((((((((((un)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Ebenezer Penningfoot - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:39:43 EST B0kZyQRI No.146437 Reply
>>146435
no, Isabella meant Unrealistic Negroes when she said "UN", the "black helicopters" stuff is when the Unrealistic Negroes spin around so fast that they can levitate, which is to say that unrealistic negroes can fly under their own power rather than by using captured swamp gas as a propellant, as fuel for a piston or turbine engine or for atmospheric buoyancy as in a dirigible.

balcony grow

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- Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:09:39 EST 8p2v+lXX No.146405
File: 1540170579592.jpg -(1250814B / 1.19MB, 1840x3264) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. balcony grow
My first grow

Lemon Haze


Imspired by Don Carlos
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Shit Bravingnodging - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:15:24 EST 8p2v+lXX No.146409 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Caroline Sobbleway - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 00:43:04 EST B0kZyQRI No.146416 Reply
Looks very nice, how lemony is it and who's seeds/clone did you get?
That looks like a really nice plant for a first timer as far as I can see from the pic. You're a natural, grow a whole bunch more and bigger plants.
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Hannah Gissledon - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:23:39 EST yBE6fZgp No.146424 Reply
>>146416
Took 24 weeks issa cupwinner this shit so trippy mayne

But i did bless it

Oui

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- Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:18:12 EST 8p2v+lXX No.146410
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So cute my autoflower
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Shit Bravingnodging - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:25:48 EST 8p2v+lXX No.146411 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Caroline Sobbleway - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 00:26:42 EST B0kZyQRI No.146415 Reply
That looks like its nice and healthy, who is she and how many weeks from seed is it five weeks?

Turn An Aquarium into indoor grow

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!6I0QtMh0ew - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 12:31:46 EST G10NBE+W No.146390
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Hi Everyone!

With Cannabis legalization coming in a few days here in Canuckistan, I wanted to get started with my own home grown.

I've got a 40 Gallon standard aquarium, with hood and light. I'm looking to hopefully repurpose these into my grow spot.

Looking for ideas on how to set it up. what sort of light I should try and find for it (Currently has a UVB from previous occupant), what sort of seeds to grow (Drawf? Something that will remain in this aquarium till harvest with ok yeilds (Winter is coming, outdoors will be next year).
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Eliza Billinglock - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:15:36 EST ef1tcmWF No.146391 Reply
>>146390
if it's legal why the fuck would you grow inside of a tiny box? It will come out small and shitty. If you want good weed you need a bright light. Get one of these cheap chinese LED arrays and give it an entire closet. I got one that works like a charm.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MUCH-300W-LED-Grow-Light-Hydro-Full-Spectrum-Veg-Flower-Indoor-Plant-Lamp-Panel/142959170940?epid=2215360137&hash=item214907d57c:g:YYQAAOSwwB5bqsYm:rk:7:pf:0

The more light the danker your weed will be. You'd be better off just putting it outside if you're going to use a weak shitty light. Spectrum is important, any old light won't work nearly as well and will be highly inefficient compared to a light with a custom spectrum designed for growing plants.
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LordVic !6I0QtMh0ew - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:16:31 EST G10NBE+W No.146394 Reply
>>146391

Thanks for the reply.

  1. "Tiny Box" because of limited space indoors. Trying to maximize the existing spaces and tools I may already have at hand. If using an Aquarium is so ridiculous an idea, than so be it, I Am not apposed to anything else.

I Understand what you mean entirely by light. If Full spectrum UVB isn't enough and one of those light "pods" are recommended, i'm willing to buy. You say the one you linked as "Cheap Chinese" though. What's the lifespan on these? Would buying a better quality one be worth while? I'm a cheap ass, but I hope to have whatever setup usable year round for a few years.

now if the aquarium thing just is a no go, Than i'd need other options for a fairly contained grow enclosure. I have pets, so having it in an enclosure is a must to keep them out (They can't get into the Aquarium i've got as an example).

New to the grow scene. if it weren't for winter, i'd be doing this outdoors for my first grow (since I've got garden space)
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Ian Sinkinstone - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:03:18 EST ef1tcmWF No.146395 Reply
>>146394
Unfortunately I have no idea what the longevity of any given light you purchase will be. I bought my light off ebay a few years back and it looks almost exactly the same and it worked well but I've only used it for one grow so far. They seem to be pretty simple devices for the most part though, just some LEDs and a couple of computer fans in a case to keep things cool. Even if a few LEDs crap out on you, the rest should work just fine.

As far as needing an enclosed space goes, you certainly can grow in a 40 gallon aquarium but it won't be ideal for several reasons, first off, it's just too small. Remember you need to grow the plant in something, so you'll need a pot of some kind, that leaves you with very little vertical room for the plant itself. Marijuana plants stretch upwards vertically during the first few weeks of flowering and usually double or even triple in height, so even if you start flowing with a tiny plant, you will run out of vertical room. You will also need good air flow which means you will need to put a fan in the aquarium further reducing your space for the plant. You're going to take a minimum of 2 months to grow even the fastest flowering strains but a plant that fits in a container that size won't produce more than an ounce tops and that's with lots of work to manage the canopy. As a rookie in a space that small you're likely to get almost nothing for your efforts. Simply growing in a larger space will make the wait more worth it because you get more bud.

Another reason it's not ideal is because the clear sides will let out all your light. Ideally the sides of your grow chamber should be an extremely low gloss (matte/flat) white paint with high reflectivity because white paint reflects all spectra of light. Most ceiling paint fits the bill. Specially designed reflective materials like mylar will also work. If you're planning to use the light in the aquarium I doubt it will be powerful enough to grow good weed, and when it comes to spectrum it's not a matter of whether you have enough of the spectrum, but rather whether it's optimized for plant growth. Weed needs mostly blue and red light with smaller amounts of UV being beneficial but not essential. A full spectrum light might be producing most of its light in a range not utilized well by cannabis which is why people who grow under lights not designed to grow plants often have terrible results.

Really light is the most important factor imo. People buy expensive nutrients and put it under a shitty light and it ends up dying or barely giving them a couple grams of larfy nugs. They should do the opposite and just grow some weed in cheap potting soil with cheap and weak nutrients (most people put waaay too many nutrients their first time and burn the plant) and buy more powerful lights. LEDs are the most efficient, so they cost the least in electricity to run, they're the most durable, and they run cooler than most other options and prices have come down a lot in recent years so I recommend them.

I'd suggest you find a space with at least 3 feet of vertical space as an absolute minimum with more being preferable. Anything will work but a small closet is my preferred area because it's easy to paint white and the shelves at the top can be used to hang the lights from. It's also easy to cut a hole in the ceiling of a closet where it won't be noticed to run ducts with a fan blowing into a carbon filter to contain smell and ventilate the area, but if it's legal where you live then you probably won't even need that. You could also build or buy a grow tent rather than use a cabinet or a closet or something. Get a fan, a more powerful light, some nutrients (but go easy on them, especially at first), a bigger space, some potting soil and maybe mix in a little perlite or vermiculite and you'll be good to grow some great weed.

pretty but it smells like great prefume

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- Tue, 16 Oct 2018 00:36:12 EST 9i8bVmG5 No.146392
File: 1539664572002.png -(878014B / 857.44KB, 670x670) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. pretty but it smells like great prefume
hey folks my cannaplants are looking good but they seem to be making pop corn buds (the bud sites are small little clumps but it fails to grow as a thingy properly) its purpleing around the top of the cola its an unidentified strain from street acquired seeds so im not sure if thats natural for it, personally i suspect it just to be cold stress. it had some mild root rot that ive fixed and its in a small pot. by it i mean the crop. basically theyre doin good but they smell like faint flowers. i havent grown successfully before so i could imagine frying it and getting the water weight out would make the smell less diluted but idk. ipleae let me know what might be up cause im lost here man

My Harvest

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- Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:21:11 EST 8/iKQyfY No.146351
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Newbie indoor Bubba Kush.
Did I done good?
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Walter Mittingwot - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:53:13 EST WmMVwVjQ No.146387 Reply
Looks good, but by the silver sheen I would have given it an extra week of flowering. But this is also up to personal preference.

Practicing growing weed

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- Fri, 28 Sep 2018 04:17:00 EST Q/+Sq8VJ No.146337
File: 1538122620805.png -(49292B / 48.14KB, 378x378) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Practicing growing weed
I've been exploring different paths for my life, and one of my ideas is that when I finish up my Air Force enlistment in 2 years, I want to back to my home state of Colorado and start growing weed in the hopes of starting a recreational marijuana business with some friends of mine. I've pirated a couple of basic botany/horticulture books and some marijuana growing books as well and have started reading up on them, but I know the best way to get good at something is by doing it.

Unfortunately, I am stationed in Oklahoma, where marijuana isn't completely legal. My question is: What is the closest plant I can grow that's most similar to marijuana as far as the growing process goes? Should I just learn to grow random foods like tomatoes and shit? I just want to know what would have the most carryover knowledge-wise.

Also, since medical marijuana laws have relaxed a bit in Oklahoma, I was considering contacting any local dispensaries near me and asking if their grower would consider the possibility of an apprenticeship with them, even if it's just doing shitty grunt work/manual labor and only learning a few small things as I go. Is it unrealistic to expect a yes? Like would that be weird or is there a better way to go about it?
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Graham Moshbare - Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:34:57 EST ZE+rIkHU No.146338 Reply
hops would be a good guess, but if you want to show off your growing skills just do something showy and post pictures of it to IG until you become a reputed horticultural expert. epcot tomato tree is a good example. if you were the guy who grew that anyone would hire you to grow cannabis. do they have legal hemp growing in OK?
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Molly Sorringpadging - Tue, 02 Oct 2018 16:02:53 EST F5Zo2jXE No.146370 Reply
Not trying to be a dickhead but it's borderline impossible to enter the recreational market in Colorado. These guys who are leading it have been illegally growing for decades. These guys are master growers who produce some of the best cannabis in the country. Honestly you're better off distributing in Oklahoma where an ounce goes for $300-350. In Colorado, growers sell pounds for $1000-1200, and just to produce one pound you'll need several plants. It's not much of a cash crop if you're trying to sell in Colorado.
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Barnaby Peffingwater - Wed, 03 Oct 2018 00:20:25 EST B0kZyQRI No.146371 Reply
>>146370
stop with that bullshit about "master growers" and all the fuckrot. its not true. commercially produced shit that isn't intended for someone's personal stash isn't grown well, its grown economically with the least care needed to meet the minimum standards for the market being targeted. my outdoor homegrown is better than almost any bud that you'll ever see for sale commercially. and its not like there aren't a billion localities that haven't legalized growing yet, there will be opportunities in the production field for years and years.

Aeroponics vs Fogponics

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- Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:50:24 EST 0tZk9yUl No.146314
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Going to be doing my first real grow soon now that it's legal in California, and I don't see much appeal in half-assing it with soil or even hydroponic grows, so I'm trying to go straight to aeroponics.

In the process I learned about fogponics. Is fogponics (which should really be called "vapoponics" by the way) really better than aeroponics? My questions are -

  • The stream of fog is constant. Doesn't that reduce oxygen to the roots vs aeroponics occasional sprays? Seems more like a hydroponic system suspended in the air, which deprives the roots of oxygen by submerging them, vs "the next step in aeroponics".

  • The vapor particles will be much smaller than the fine liquid particles in aeroponics. Can cannabis roots absorb such small particles as effectively? I think of redwood trees which have specific biological systems designed to capture fog (their needles basically), these would not be present in cannabis roots. Would the tiny molecule size hinder capillary action in the roots somehow or would it build up enough in the roots to work just like aeroponic spray?

  • Would the act of vibrating the nutrient solution to create the vapor molecules feasibly distill any nutrients bound to the water? Seems like this would only be an issue if the nutrients were insoluble in water - don't know if that's ever the case as I'm focusing on getting the structure to grow within ready first.
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Ernest Bevingville - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 18:59:49 EST 8yylOXoi No.146324 Reply
>>146314

As amazing as fogponics is, it is absolutely the most fickle bitch, but most efficient and rewarding method, out of all growing techniques. To put this into perspective, NASA uses fogponics to grow veggies, and has been testing this growing method for some time now. I think they use it on the ISS as well.

The main issue with choosing this route is that it comes down to two things.

Issue 1: it is not for newer cultivators by any means. The amount of fine-tuning needed is extremely high-maintenance.

Issue 2: most people that use this method report that there's a ceramic part that is used in the process/device to turn the liquid into a fog that tends to break/crack fairly often to the extent that it needs replacing every 3-4 months. (This was quite a few years ago, so the technology may have advanced to where this is not longer an issue.)

To touch on the subject of possible reduced oxygen, just get some good old food-grade 35% hydrogen peroxide. Add 1-5ml/gal depending on how much you want to use. I've been experimenting with 4-5ml/gal and I've only seen good things. The trick to using it correctly is to add the hydrogen peroxide into the pure water before adding nutes and let it sit for 30 minutes so it has a chance to dissolve into said water.

You won't have to worry about the nutrients being less effective as well, since fogponics has been tested against aero and hydro methods, with fogponics being up to 25% more effective than aeroponics when comparing growth rates. The people that did the tests used the same clones from the same mother plant, used control plants on top of that.

That being said, fogponics is something of an end-game method for me. I'm slowly working my way up the latter as far as growing techniques goes. Aeroponics is next on my list of things to try since ebb and flow has been working great for me.
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Doris Bunwater - Mon, 01 Oct 2018 01:34:07 EST ef1tcmWF No.146362 Reply
Does anyone know how this compares to deep water culture? I've always held that to be the gold standard for quality in hydroponics but I haven't looked into fogponics.

Balcony grow

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- Sun, 30 Sep 2018 05:20:21 EST x/AVzvf6 No.146347
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So after a lot of issues my plant has finally been growing these small buds and it feels like it's getting close to harvest time. How much longer should i wait? the temperatures outside are skipping between 16 and 20°C and i'm afraid it's getting to cold for my little buddy.

Plant is Critical from Dinafem btw
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Cyril Duffingshaw - Sun, 30 Sep 2018 06:37:10 EST HwosKtR0 No.146348 Reply
16°C too cold for weed? Its not usually a problem. Under 10 degrees is where you can start to have issues with slowed growth but damage to the plants won't occur until you get closer to 0.

That being said from your picture it does actually look like you are close to harvest. How are your trichomes looking?
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Jenny Bunwater - Sun, 30 Sep 2018 06:53:11 EST x/AVzvf6 No.146349 Reply
>>146348

Oh nice, always had the idea in my head that it needs to be 20°C+
Trichomes are starting to get a bit cloudy, most of them are still quite clear though

/crops/ pics

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- Tue, 04 Sep 2018 00:51:03 EST 3cvBQsis No.146298
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there had got to be more content in this category than this one image
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Henry Closhworth - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:57:22 EST B0kZyQRI No.146319 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE

Some sort of problem

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- Sat, 29 Sep 2018 08:20:00 EST vrKpl0HC No.146340
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Do my plants look healthy for 29 days of flowering? (not exactly 29 days, actually - I just switched to 12/12 27 days ago). Also is it OK that dozens of the lower leaves started to wither and fall off since my plants started to bloom? Should I worry about it or it's a natural thing?
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Eliza Dommerbury - Sat, 29 Sep 2018 08:27:02 EST vrKpl0HC No.146341 Reply
sorry for the second thread. Don't know how to delete it.
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Jenny Bunwater - Sun, 30 Sep 2018 05:17:05 EST x/AVzvf6 No.146346 Reply
I don't know much about indoor growing but they look like very happy little plants!
Also leaves turning yellow and falling off is normal, it's sucking out nutrients to bulk up the bud

LED floodlights

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- Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:59:49 EST biz785N3 No.146315
File: 1537304389403.jpg -(5196B / 5.07KB, 250x250) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. LED floodlights
There's plenty of floodlights that have been approved for import that come with their own drivers, and prices seem to be well within the range of even the poorest growers. They often fall within the 3000-6000k temperature range, so in theory they're just as capable as COB kits.
I ordered 4 30W floodlights for around $40 in total, but I'm waiting for someone else to admit that they've tried it and hopefully offer some tips. If not, I'll post some updates once everything has been set up and the plants show some results.
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Beatrice Hurringhug - Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:51:44 EST ol/Sob4l No.146317 Reply
>in theory they're just as capable as COB kits.
They use the cheapest chinkshit in them
A brand led will smoke them hard probably x3 times the lumen per watt or more

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