/deli/ Deliriant Discussion
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Effects of DPH and grapefruit? I was thinking about trying a DXM/DPH trip since ive never combined the two and im wondering if like DXM grapefruit juice would make it more potent and if so what the suggested combination of these would be. I have done DPH once before but I fucked up and took too little of it and got stuck feeling like shit and I want to make sure this doesn't happen again
stop wasting your seed!!!
>>157931Why? Do you want it?
>>157931A few days ago I masturbated for 20 hours straight on a combination of hydroxyzine (which feels like mild dph at higher doses combined with alcohol) and venlafaxine (which is an anti depressant and also treats nerve pain) combined with beer and weed. I realize this cant be good for my dick but it was exhilarating. On dph I would fap for 12 hours at a time.
What are dosages like on DPH/DXM? I am going to try DPH and I heard that DXM removes a lot of the shit parts of the trip but also magnifies the effect of both of them so im just wondering what the safe dosages are, I keep getting different answers
>>157929Thanks for the advice anon. but I just want to ask, when you say "you will still be in for a great deal of delirium" can you describe to what extent? I know it may be different from person to person but can you tell me anything about what to expect from 300/300?
>>157934for me, it's like seeing computer screens or TV shows on the wall, seeing spiders and other bugs, very rarely see some shadow people in the corners (sometimes dancing, like DnB style dancing lol), and most importantly if i sit down or lay down, i drift out into complete inner hallucinations. I wouldn't say these are CEVs. It's not just seeing something, but completely think you are at somewhere else, talking with somebody, doing something, and then suddenly wake up and realize you're just laying in the bed. For me, at this dose, this only happen when i lay or sit down comfortably and i don't do anything. I guess at 700mg, it happens all of the time even if you walk or do something important. And there are all kind of OEVs too, especially if you look at something with a complex texture, like a nice carpet or a page of text, you will most likely see things that aren't there, but probably be aware that it's just visuals. I'm a male with about 80kg body mass and really small tolerance.
>>157935ah ok im close to 100kg-ish so I think ill go 450-500 DPH and 300 DXM thanks for the answer anon.
I was the one who wrote a report on experimenting with sexual interactions with shadow people on deliriants [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Experienceatura_%26_DPH_-_Results_of_Experiment_by_Isopropanol] and I was wondering if anyone else has had any sexual experiences with shadow people or other hallucinatory entities, good or bad?Picture unrelated.
>>157900I agree with this post. Dreams are trippy as fuck and can even seem very real at times. Particularly when sleep paralysis is involved and I see beings such as floating old hag witches and demon dogs materialize above or beside my bed. If I were less logical I may consider my visits by these entities as me being haunted by demons and go full religious attempting to rationalize such nonsense. But no, the mind is both a wonderful yet terrifying place. Once you wake up it was all just a vivid /del/usion. Dreams aren't real.
>>157777Ok, first of all you're an absolute madman, I hope your assistant wasn't too traumatized.Secondly no sexy shadow stuff yet, I'd be too afraid of their junk turning into spiders to want to go near them.
>>157930>not wanting spider pussyFaggot
>not wanting spider pussy
here are some dph comics I made about my experiences with this crazy drug
Nice, OP, but sometimes a bit depressing.All all those all real stories that happened to you ?
>>157857Oh wow I had almost this same thing happen once on some weird "acid" and benadryl one Halloween. I thought my roommates cat was dead and was holding it in my arms so sad, when I snapped back to reality it was a girlfriend's coat with a fur lining.
>>157895Holy shit, how do you explain this type behavior to your roommates
Hi, I would really like to hear from you if you think you've experienced some kind of histamine rebound from heavy antihistamine use. I've had a long term mystery itch. I don't use Diphenhydramine but I used Promethazine for the itch and to sleep, in moderate-low amounts for a few weeks. It seems like there's a million variables and I know what exacerbates the itch but I don't know what causes it if it has a singular cause. I ate Camembert cheese yesterday and my itch was worse than ever. The cheese could have high amounts of histamine. Its a nocturnal itch btw but I still feel it all day. Also I ask out of curiosity if heavy DPH use causes some kind of histamine rebound. Couldn't think of the right pic. Cheers
>>157912It's curious you bring this up! For around the past year I've had a fairly consistently itchy scalp. I stopped my hardcore DPH derpery around 2016-2017 then continued using DXM heavily until current. I don't know if it's the DPH or DXM damage or switching to an all natural shampoo or just dandruff from over shampooing and not conditioning enough. Either way I'm always itching my head. It's pretty annoying.
>>157916Well if its on your scalp then it is probably scalp related, or hair related in some way. Mine is all-over which makes me think it is dietary related. I can't find the cause though so I think it could even be liver or kidney issues or some kind of cancer though nothing else would suggest it.
>>157912I never experienced the itch but my brother took dph with me once and said he could feel bugs crawling on him for a few weeks afterwards It was weird
>When dph spiders
>When dph spiders
should I take DPH and DXM for my first time on DPH or should I just go in with 700mg of DPH and leave the DXM to when im more accustomed to the effects of DPH? (ive done DXM twice before both times around 750mg)
>>157922if you wanna definitely trip, I'd go for 500 mg DPH no dxm, its a good dose for testing the waters but wanting to be actually delirious (unlike 200 mg or 300 which can be disappointing or JUST miss the mark you wanted)For reference, I'm skinny as shit and "tripped" the first time off DPH this way. IN PUBLIC. Definitely don't do that, but, though I probably spooked a cinema worker when trying to buy tickets to IT (never even remembered to go into the movie, lost my ticket in my jacket), I got away with it pretty nicely to say I was in a fucking mall (UK equivalent). Again, don't do that, but I'm just saying 500mg is a dose where you'll speak to non existant people, see spiders etc, but youll JUST be still on earth enough to get out the mall and onto a bus home from the city to your hometown (again DONTTTTT DO WHAT I DID, I'm just saying this dose made me trip balls but I could still get home without getting arrested lol)I feel its necessary to understand what the DXM actually does before trying it with DPH. Once you get a taste of the deliriant body high you'll appreciate it so much more when the DXM is numbing that side of things. You're also (I think) less likely to blackout with no DXM; which is always nice. Even when delirious as shit I dont like fully blacking out because thats when I've dropped glasses on the floor and took pictures of my eyes and posted it on my social media etc
>>157923well im a bit larger (102kg with clothes on) so thats why I was thinking I should take 700
I plan on joining the 700 club with some dxm and weed in the local woods really early in the morning sometime in the next few weeks or so and I was wondering how trips/hallucinations are affected by this setting? will I be more likely to hallucinate animals and other things typically seen in the woods or will it just be like any other trip in any other setting?
>>157840Sounds crazy did you write a trip report somewhere? I'd like to read it
>>157840man what's your tolerance like? are you a rapid metabolizer or some shit? I've gotten fairly moderate serotonin syndrome a handful of times on doses of ~2.5-3g and enzyme inhibitors. i honestly don't see how you avoided having a significant bout with SS to such a degree that it was life threatening.i mean, im talking, on top of not being able to piss for fucking HOURS and ridiculously overheating and profusely sweating, but anytime i tried to walk my legs would fucking shoot down to the floor so fucking hard and fast that im sure if i couldve felt them theyd be in some decent pain from the strain on my tendons alone. on top of that my muscles were so fucking tense and rigid that i was in all around body pain for the entire following day or two each time this happened.i know full well from tolerance and regular abuse of many drugs in the past that people can take some incredible megadoses sometimes and it would seem incredulous to most people, and you do say you tried committing suicide, but i have a hard time believing you weren't actually successful. you must've been fucked for days afterward, and i don't mean fucked up like still tripping, but physically fucked up.
hell, most people black out past 2.5-3g of DXM too and somehow you were capable of not only experiencing things around you, but remember what it was like. im half way convinced you're just full of shit
evidence has emerged that shows Hitler's personal doctor Theodore morrell gave him atropa belladonna pills and atropine daily: "Since some of these compounds are considered toxic, historians have speculated that Morell inadvertently contributed to Hitler's deteriorating health. The fragmentary list (below) of some 74 substances (in 28 different mixtures) administered to Hitler include psychoactive drugs such as heroin as well as commercial poisons. Among the compounds, in alphabetical order, were:Atropa belladonna (2–4 pills with every meal, for a total of 8-16 tablets a day, in Doktor Koster's Antigaspills, a compound also containing strychnine)atropine (extract of seminal vesicles) source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Morell Lmao lads Hitler was a fellow delver
Nietzsche did some stuff too.
>>157846afaik neither of those would cause stimulation when administered that way, only dilate his pupils so fucking bad that he couldn't see/focus his eyes and any kind of light at all would hurt like shit. cocaine is actually something they can (and have) use(d) to dilate your eyes at the eye doctor to help with vision tests for glasses, only they usually use something else. i'd have to look it up but the adrenaline would probably just do something similar
looked it up, and adrenaline eye drops don't seem to especially dilate the pupils but are instead used to decrease ocular pressure for problems like glaucoma or to prep for eye surgery. so yeah, the ridiculous amounts of meth would of course be stim enough for him, but the cocaine and adrenaline eye drops werent contributing to that. god knows why he'd be taking cocaine eye drops when he's already taking an anticholinergic and meth and both cause a ridiculous amount of pupil dilation potentially just on their own.
>be me, in college>decide to take 600 mg of DPH + 350 mg DXM>forget I have english in an hour>OHSHI->gravity is 100x heavier than normal, dragging feet on ground like paraplegic, breathing heavily just to walk down a few hallways, walking up a staircase feels like climbing mt. everest>random students keep eyeing me>every few seconds I hear my name being shouted behind me, but nothing is every behind me when i look back random whispering and weird little glitches in vision every so often>this isnt that bad, i can make it through class, its not that far from my dorm get inside classroom>one student looks like a 10 foot tall spider wearing clothes>a few students look like they're dead>teacher walks in, no wait that's the hat man>scream at the top of my lungs "NOT SAFE" in a high pitched girly voice and trip over my feet, landing head first into a wall>people look concerned, someone calls an ambulance>end up in hospital for 12 hour monitoring cause they think im insane
>be me, in college
>decide to take 600 mg of DPH + 350 mg DXM
>forget I have english in an hour
>gravity is 100x heavier than normal, dragging feet on ground like paraplegic, breathing heavily just to walk down a few hallways, walking up a staircase feels like climbing mt. everest
>random students keep eyeing me
>every few seconds I hear my name being shouted behind me, but nothing is every behind me when i look back random whispering and weird little glitches in vision every so often
>this isnt that bad, i can make it through class, its not that far from my dorm get inside classroom
>one student looks like a 10 foot tall spider wearing clothes
>a few students look like they're dead
>teacher walks in, no wait that's the hat man
>scream at the top of my lungs "NOT SAFE" in a high pitched girly voice and trip over my feet, landing head first into a wall
>people look concerned, someone calls an ambulance
>end up in hospital for 12 hour monitoring cause they think im insane
>>157803I did this some times in school. Always told my closest friends so they'd take care of me in case of freakouts. Fun times.
Teachers never bothered me back in High School (which is good I think?), by the end of the day I would pass out and couldn't be woken up for more than a few seconds. The only time I even got sent to the nurse was after vomiting up around 750mg of DPH.
>>157803>teacher walks in, no wait that's the hat manlmfao man even if you made this up
I'm out of benadryl and I want to be delirious but I don't feel like spending much as I don't have that much money rn so how long do I need to stay up until I start seeing shadow people? I'm only on hour 21 right now but with enough coffee and boomer juice I think i could probably stay up until atlest between 40 to 50 hour's will that be enough?
>>157889I've noticed hallucinations in my peripheral vision at about 48 hours.
>>157889Hope this helps, OP>>157890Even if you don't use the meth to stay awake, adding in stimulants will definitely speed up the effects of sleep deprivation as your body gets more and more exhausted. (Depressants would probably work too, but they might knock you out and ruin your progress).
>>157889depends on how fucked up your brain already is. the more fucked up you are, the sooner you will see them. back then i started to hallucinate at the 72 hour mark and never saw dph-like shadow people even at 120 hours (yeah man speed paste is a helluva drug). now i freak out from all encompassing hallucinations at 48 hours
>>A California man who murdered his mother with a claw hammer after ingesting a massive amount of allergy medicine has been sentenced to 26 years to life in prison, PEOPLE confirms.>>On Wednesday, just before he was sentenced in the beating death of mother Rebecca “Becky” Apodaca, 55, in February 2017, David McGee Jr., 26, of Escondido, apologized for killing her, multiple outlets report.https://people.com/crime/man-murdered-mom-hammer-devasted-entire-family/
>>A California man who murdered his mother with a claw hammer after ingesting a massive amount of allergy medicine has been sentenced to 26 years to life in prison, PEOPLE confirms.
>>On Wednesday, just before he was sentenced in the beating death of mother Rebecca “Becky” Apodaca, 55, in February 2017, David McGee Jr., 26, of Escondido, apologized for killing her, multiple outlets report.
I can definitely see something like this happening to someone with a shit home life. I've got it pretty good, but whenever I push the limit with DPH 50% of my thoughts are kinky shit, 40% are thoughts of my family dying, 9% are thoughts on problem solving in the most convoluted way, and 1% are epiphanies that I forget 3 seconds later, as far as I can remember
>>157904>thoughts about your parents dyingDPH is so rude for having that effect.. be 18 years old "you are delirious and couldn't talk to your father right now even if you wanted to, the distance is growing and he is probably heart broken to lose touch with his once-beloved son - he won't be around forever, you know" I KNOW.. I JUST WANTED SPIDERS BUT.. FUCKnb
>thoughts about your parents dying
>>157905I have the estrangement copypasta issue going on more with my friends, which I feel is going to have a much harsher effect in the long run than a gap with my parents would.I meant having a slideshow of vignettes of the people I was physically closest to dying graphically
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