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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
Meclizine & Mirtazapine Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Garuda - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 23:32:52 EST ID:7n6c7XLc No.157691
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>Method and reasoning
Taking Mirtazapine (an antihistamine antidepressant, Remeron) and Meclizine (nondrowsy Dramamine, Bonine) should interact with each other, as they both have dopamine affinities (Meclizine is an antagonist, while Mirtazapine is an agonist). This results in mixed agonist/antagonist dopamine activity. This effect creates delirium at a much lower dose than usually needed.
>Dosage
Meclizine: 25mg (taken under tongue aka. sublingually)
Mirtazapine: 30mg (swallowed as pill)
>Subjective effects
A heavy, but controllable, delirium is the result. Phantom arms, phones, cigarettes, and other common features happen regularly while some unpleasant ones (unspeakable horrors) may definitely occur too.
Due to the incredible potency of the combination, a first time try for any person should entail using only 12.5mg Meclizine, as it is the lever for how deep the delirium will be. Dreams will most likely (50% in my experience) be vivid and abstract.

Word of caution, don't overdo it. I found this out accidentally when I took 50mg Meclizine for nausea along with my nighttime dose of Mirtazapine and I was diving very deep into delirium for a while. The dreams are wonderful, but the hangover is not suitable for anyone who has to get up early.
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Hamilton Gundlesod - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 07:05:25 EST ID:sedwtKnm No.157714 Ignore Report Reply
Wow, this is very interesting. Anyone else tried it and can share some experiences?


I'm thinking of trying out benadryl how do I prepare? And what am i in for? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Barnaby Nurringspear - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:44:47 EST ID:zCV9mPiZ No.157665
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I've been curious about dph recently and since it's not a very popular drug there's not a ton of information about it I can find outside of erowid I was just wondering what dose you guy's would recommend I start with and also how should i prepare myself? (setting, mindset, thing's to do while high etc) the only other drug's I've done are weed and dxm so I know what being high feels like I just don't know what being on a deliriant is like. I was thinking of taking somewhere between 300 to 400 mgs and I was also considering combining it with 300 mg of dxm is that a good idea the first time or should i start by taking dph alone? What does dxm do to a dph trip?
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Shit Darringbanks - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 11:32:59 EST ID:zZuntjJ3 No.157711 Ignore Report Reply
>>157710
I can't find much on the internet claiming chlorpheniramine maleate is a deliriant, but the effects I got from it were very similar to dph. I had assumed all anticholinergic antihistamines like these were classified as deliriants, but there is nothing I can find listing this as one.
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Nicholas Blackfoot - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:35:39 EST ID:zCV9mPiZ No.157712 Ignore Report Reply
>>157710
I want to be delirious enough that I actually see and hear shit and I guess it was stupid of me to think 250 mg would get me there anyways no more test dosages I'll wait another week and when I have atlest 5 or 6 hours to myself I'll take about 400 or 500 mg with the remaining 265 mg of dxm that I have. that should get me where i want to be right?
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Charles Gurrypid - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:48:43 EST ID:kw6gwj5W No.157713 Ignore Report Reply
>>157712

i'm not experienced in "high" dosages, but most /del/fags say it's the worst dosage range. they say one should take either <300mg or >700mg and in between is shit because you aren't fully delirious and tripping, but the body discomfort is the highest.

i'm experinced in 300+300 (as in 300mg dph + 300mg dxm). and that makes me hear and see shit pretty much. IME this combination and dosage isn't that much about OEVs and audio hallucinations, much more about "Inner trips", when you are laying in your bed or siting in your chair and have something like a full blown lucid dream. And then you have something intense happening in your lucid dream and say something out loud or kick with your leg, etc, and then you wake up and say: wtf i'm sitting in my motherfucked chair, i tought i was hanging out with friends at the club. then 30 seconds pass and you dreaming again, might be the same place and situation or completely different.


bought an 80 pill count bottle of dramamine Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Hannah Worthingway - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:36:33 EST ID:o+2gsoNR No.157648
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Hugh Hablingham - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 15:35:00 EST ID:0BCfEQ5o No.157663 Ignore Report Reply
>>157649
I've seen it said that DMH is about half the strength of DPH. I never used DMH recreationally though. If you haven't checked Erowid reports out yet I recommend you do so; they know more than I do.
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PirateMike - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:35:30 EST ID:PjJUFZ4+ No.157683 Ignore Report Reply
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>>157663
How strong of a stimulant is 8-chlorotheophylline in people sensitive to caffeine? I don't plan on taking this, I don't think I even have it in my country but it might not be a good idea for people who can't consume caffeine.
I personally hate caffeine, it makes feel like I've been poisoned and gives me extreme anxiety. I do find dramamine interesting cause it was mentioned in a PKD novel.

(Pic unrelated)
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Archie Mosslebury - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 08:13:33 EST ID:o+2gsoNR No.157709 Ignore Report Reply
>>157683
its a strong enough stimulant where my body felt forcefully awake the next day after resting, but my body could easily have just been experiencing the DMH hangover.



TESTING TESTING:::::

Dropping 300mg DPH down my throat, and gonna take 400 more when I feel it.

I'm done work for the day now lets go to my sappy place.


DPH Plan Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Augustus Geshdat - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 19:51:31 EST ID:QozBdpaB No.157697
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Here's my 700 plan. I will remind myself I took a large amount of dph. I will remind myself that any insects I come across are not real. I will also touch anybody I see to ensure that I am not hallucinating them.
Has this strategy worked for anyone? I think it would be cool to imagine things, but only if I am able to distinguish reality
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Jarvis Porrysere - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:00:57 EST ID:GDPxYUax No.157700 Ignore Report Reply
but yeah I'm 450 right now, and I'm very disappointed. roughly 2.5 hours in and I all I feel is slightly heavier, and a "pit in the bottom of your stomach" feeling that is coming and going
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jihad james - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:01:11 EST ID:0CS+KPv+ No.157701 Ignore Report Reply
>>157699
Yeah well i have two dicks, one for each of ya.
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Arnie Autist - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:10:17 EST ID:0CS+KPv+ No.157702 Ignore Report Reply
>>157700
You fucked this up m8 450mg is in what we call the do not want range of dosage.
man up and do all 700 next time or just do the fucking smart thing and get high on something else.


Why does he wear the hat? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Wesley Hibblefed - Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:35:41 EST ID:3CIfYXr8 No.157533
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who is hatman
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Barnaby Berringmatch - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:24:42 EST ID:AmQdJaGy No.157685 Ignore Report Reply
>>157667
i do legit wanna hear a story of someone charging into this fucker while they are high as dog shit on benadryl lol. the whole story is just creepy to me. is he a benedryl demon or something?
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Phyllis Fandernidge - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 02:48:01 EST ID:RorbcP9b No.157686 Ignore Report Reply
>>157685
I believe around 5:00pm I made the decision to take 700 milligrams of diphenhydramine (28 pills). I counted the pills out on the palm of my hand, popped them in my mouth and washed them down with a little bit of water. I then sat on the couch petting my dog waiting for it to hit. As the dph kicked in there were bugs crawling on the walls and i really had to piss. I got up went to the bathroom and sat on the toilet. I then took out my pocket knife examined it for a bit and then made a cut on my left thigh but i couldn’t feel it and i had no idea what blood was. I scraped the blood onto the edge of the knife and took a picture of it sent it to my brother asking something like “what is this?” I was so fascinated by blood it looked like jelly and tasted like shit and it was oozing out of my leg so i made another larger cut still unable to feel it as i watched the blood seep out of my leg. I sat in the bathroom for a while then wanted to go to bed so naturally i made my way to my bedroom. I opened the door to my bedroom and saw a woman sitting on my bed like brushing her hair or something. I said “oh sorry” thinking i just walked in her room then shut the door not thinking much of it i made my way down the hallway, while passing my bathroom i looked and saw my brothers cat sitting in the windowsill of my bathroom. I continued down the hall to my living room and sat down by my dog.

After sitting down i started texting my brother about how i felt ‘more better’ than usual i texted him for a while but the letters on my phones keyboard were shifting and getting blurry every time I’d use it so i told him i was going to walk my dog at about 11pm in a snow storm and stupidly thats what i did. I put her coat on and put on my coat and we walked down my backyard alongside a factory behind my house as we got towards the front of the factory my dog stops and stares ahead, her ears down looking towards a streetlight in the empty parking lot. This got my attention so i looked in the direction she was looking and standing under the streetlight was who i believe is known as the Hatman. This struck fear into the very core of my being. Seeing what i can only describe as a pure evil man dressed in all black and a bl…
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OP - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 14:40:11 EST ID:c0c9w+tL No.157696 Ignore Report Reply
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>>157641


Remember kids Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Filth - Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:22:51 EST ID:uFvBqwE2 No.157454
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Geometry is the art and what people say drugs are
Those people are brain dead and only see math
Del is for hateful people who want to find company in the presence of their demons
Not *nice* people.
People that wanna die but feel obligated to live
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Shit Blacklock - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 13:54:16 EST ID:gwqk5l7l No.157661 Ignore Report Reply
Lol ok Sasuke
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Beast - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 05:21:48 EST ID:2uGLgB2w No.157693 Ignore Report Reply
>>157454
Then oblige yourself away from something that inhibits your ability to do so.

A fascination with the macabre is fine but taking it to the extreme will only steal from you. Sounds cliche, but on the other side it just feels like waste and you're left with less than what you started with. Less to meet "the grind" with. You're going to miss it.

Do some fasting pre-trip. Get a good vibe going and go from there. Always nice to end on a high note...or in this case a low note. Ending with some sort of spiritual clarity :)
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Filth - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 12:44:04 EST ID:TLqEc+fg No.157695 Ignore Report Reply
>>157693
Not edgy enough


Wild del photo thread Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Zambor & Ketamine - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:37:15 EST ID:7meLK24c No.157644
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Last year, last day of september, last time I wanted to go to that town even though I always come back
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Isabella Mibberpedging - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 08:12:44 EST ID:WCtg6aRt No.157688 Ignore Report Reply
>>157668
wild animals might be almost at a near constant state of panic. More so for prey than for predator but I think mostly of rabbits or deer that are always paying attention to their surroundings like a vet with PTSD in a pub never allowing the door to be at his back. Do animals like that ever relax?
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Fuck Piblingchatch - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:56:05 EST ID:kw6gwj5W No.157689 Ignore Report Reply
>>157644

There are evolutionary instincts in animals to not to eat certain things. like predators don't hunt brightly yellow or red animals because they tend to be poisonous.(Poison dart frogs, etc) Maybe there is an instinct to don't eat spiky orbs, idk. Probably there were some deers who loved eating spiky orbs, and some who didn't, and all of the sooner died so they don't have ani descendants, so all deers now are children of ancient deers who didn't like it. But this is just speculation. Also wikipedia says they are picky animals.
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Fuck Piblingchatch - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:56:49 EST ID:kw6gwj5W No.157690 Ignore Report Reply
>>157689 sorry i meant to send it to >>157664


Nutmeg Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Caroline Clobberdock - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 08:23:07 EST ID:NKjaaCSm No.157675
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how to get high on grounded nutmeg?
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Beatrice Clemmerfield - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:31:12 EST ID:8qQzVpfu No.157677 Ignore Report Reply
>>157675
Eat it
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Fanny Seshstock - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 22:45:56 EST ID:0BCfEQ5o No.157679 Ignore Report Reply
>>157677
Yup that's how you do it, OP. I learned to sub vitamin capsule contents for nutmeg to circumvent the flavor gag. You can also parachute the powder with a single-ply tissue or TP. I just tried the parachute method for the first time today and was pleasantly surprised. It's been around four hours since I dosed now.
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William Pollychun - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:03:24 EST ID:zCV9mPiZ No.157687 Ignore Report Reply
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>>157675
You get the most bang for your buck if you snort it up yer bumhole


DXM poli + DPH? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Samuel Climmerspear - Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:44:29 EST ID:cbAQP7l+ No.157478
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What/when should I dose? Is this even a good idea
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Hannah Worthingway - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:24:22 EST ID:o+2gsoNR No.157651 Ignore Report Reply
>>157478
take the poli first, then wait like 30 mins then down the DPH. the DXM runs out first but I've only ever tried HBR. but I want to try poli lol. Sounds like a damn good way to reach 4th plat
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Hedda Bunnerdug - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:22:48 EST ID:SjqUGhd+ No.157652 Ignore Report Reply
>>157651
4th plat for 12 hours sounds like a shitty time, but that's just me. You'd have to take a lot of delsym as well
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Stinky pete - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:24:14 EST ID:slYRjmpK No.157676 Ignore Report Reply
>>157478
I ended in a psychotic state thanks to my first 600mg dph trip.
My dad walked I to my room to see me in a crab walk stance. I wwas mumbiling nonsense then shuffling from my my lamp knocking down my lamp mumbiling , shuffling to my fan knocking that over, than picking up both and reapeating. I'm good with dxm but do made me a loony


DATURA SEEDS: CHEW OR SWALLOW? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
who cares - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 07:17:19 EST ID:GB7nJFr6 No.157540
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Just wondering if it's safe to swallow 3 datura inoxia "white devil's trumpets" seeds... i read a few posts from various drug forums about chewing the seeds but not sure if they swallowed or not. what do you guys think? any experience with swallowing 3 seeds of that strain?? please help me
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Samuel Billingwell - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:14:25 EST ID:qGXfuCQq No.157643 Ignore Report Reply
SMOKE

https://www.kymiaarts.com/blog/datura-poison-path-to-smoke-medicine
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Doris Honeydock - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 08:45:57 EST ID:Plz1JzTg No.157647 Ignore Report Reply
>>157571
maybe... nah. probably death
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James Murdlock - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:07:52 EST ID:UgC+8EFS No.157660 Ignore Report Reply
I got some seeds recently because I wanted to grow it, and now I'm thinking about grinding up a single seed, rubbing the powder on my gums or smoking it. I reckon if there's any effect it would be like wearing a scopolamine patch, and then I can work up from there. There's a documentary where they get participants to drink a carefully dosed belladonna brew under medical supervision, the dose wasn't high enough to get them delirious and it seems they actually had a good time. They just laid around in a dreamy trance state and described feelings of flying. I think it could be great for a shamanic experience if used properly. I'm not in any rush though, the seeds are easy to get cheap if not free so there's no need to worry about wasting a dose.

In Hinduism it's sacred to Shiva the destroyer. Vamachara tantrics (heterodox mystics) take it, along with arsenic, snake venom and other toxins, liquor, opium, some will even consume feces and offer it to Shiva as a sacrament (like Telang Swami). That's best left to the boldest of Vira (heroes) and Divya (men who embody divinity). This kind of sadhana (spiritual practice) is believed to only destroy the Pashu (everyday person) rather than liberate him.

If you wanna get high just smoke some weed man, have a beer, anything but datura. Medical use should be left to doctors and mystical use should be left to mystics.


Where are you? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Filth - Sun, 17 Mar 2019 11:17:24 EST ID:12AgqLSR No.157554
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What are you doing here?
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Matilda Barryworth - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 16:15:31 EST ID:0CPjVo+u No.157633 Ignore Report Reply
>>157630
hey that actually sounds a lot better than the last time i saw your posts. gz on the progress homie.
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Augustus Chemmerchork - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:55:01 EST ID:Ll4Wvnjj No.157635 Ignore Report Reply
>>157630
i've seen your posts over my months of browsing and i've gotta say, i'm proud of ya man. keep at it!
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Emma Shakefuck - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:05:07 EST ID:o+2gsoNR No.157659 Ignore Report Reply
>>157630
i find it funny how a room can smell like the pills you're chugging down, all I smell in my room is the little gravol dramamaine pills and it sucks


why is my mouthopen when I take DMH? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Esther Bunhall - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:05:16 EST ID:o+2gsoNR No.157654
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im a total mouth breather and it seems slower and way less frequent than what its suppoed to be
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Nell Garringbanks - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 04:18:37 EST ID:CVwJfE8R No.157655 Ignore Report Reply
>>157654
I'm pretty sure dph caused me to have mental breathing issues. I know they arent physical breathing issues since while sober the body typically wont just stop breathing, but I became aware of my breathing which makes me try to breathe manually. Though after months of suffering from this I have never actually suffocated.

I first became aware of my breathing while under the effects of dph, I found I have had to remember to breathe at some points. But even after the effects of dph have worn off, I still experienced issues with my breathing which lead to panic attacks.

Be careful with dph. I haven't read much else regarding this effect of dph but i found your post to be interesting. I am now prescribed hydroxyzine for my anxiety issues and I've found it miraculously corrected my breathing issues.
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Emma Shakefuck - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 04:23:54 EST ID:o+2gsoNR No.157656 Ignore Report Reply
>>157655
i was tripping real hard for what felt like hours and my mouth was agape. I couldn't close my mouth because it was too dry, I think I had my mouth open to try to gather moisture from the air.



Another thing I'm going through again, after a 2 year break from this horrible invention. Chest flutters? It feels like a part of my chest is going on a rollercoaster drop, It's so difficult to explain, It feels like a part of my chest is falling, and I lean forward when it happens like im actually falling, Scares me every fucking time.


And fuck manual breathing, if you're stuck on that I should'nt tell you that you are now aware of how your tongue feels in your mouth. Or that you most likely have dangly bit in your throat. And that lymph nodes aren't cancer. So many amazing things


taking too many dramamines Ignore Report View Thread Reply
tim bibby - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 06:51:33 EST ID:3b2gLSTY No.157642
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brose I never seem to trip. bout near took a whole bottle of dramamines with no trip , cant seem to get much of the vizuals. think the stuff is only good for sleeping at this point. dammm does it ever make you tired though. good for sleeping but that's about it. taking Dramamine with dryls knocks it up or down a notch . you pass out, not sure how safe it is to try and reach a trip dosage . wouldn't recommend it, need to find some way to quit the shit. anyone know of any good herbs or something similar?
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Fanny Tillingworth - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 08:25:04 EST ID:kw6gwj5W No.157645 Ignore Report Reply
It can be quite underwhelming and not recognized as a trip in itself, combine it with same mg of DXM and you'll trip motherphuccin balls.
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Beast - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 05:25:34 EST ID:2uGLgB2w No.157694 Ignore Report Reply
>>157642

THC and sleep deprivation will take you as far as you need to go. Gotta be disciplined with it though. Toss a little N20 when you're feeling weak and getting over it is much easier. Peace.


too much datura Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Eiriel. - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 02:04:20 EST ID:XGxN5RZ5 No.155549
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I've been dosing ENTIRELY way too much datura. Like I eat some every day and the trip just never ends. I just ate more. I"M A MONSTER WHAT DO I DO.
THOSE INNOCENT FLOWERS.
I saw dead bodies and demons on the way to the tree datura for harvest.
dead bodies and demons
HELP
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Samuel Collerford - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 19:43:19 EST ID:hqlc1IF+ No.157625 Ignore Report Reply
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This thread is beyond retarded lol
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Nell Cupperlig - Fri, 05 Apr 2019 05:26:18 EST ID:H3GDzUC4 No.157640 Ignore Report Reply
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>>155549
Lactusa plants choline lettuce eggs etc careful though tobacco or any other cholinergic plant could be a deadly stack

Dr Edward group free

Samaritans purse free

Son no more last you beget somethingvwrse
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Wesley Peblingnat - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 09:17:49 EST ID:D+xEYfSw No.157658 Ignore Report Reply
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>>157625


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