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Alternatives to Aticholinergics

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- Tue, 23 Mar 2021 10:06:25 EST YN94dySS No.160060
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Any knownledgeable on alternative mechanisms of inducing (surviveable) delirium to anticholinergics (including indirect anticholinergics like antihistamines)? Only one Im aware of is muscimol. Is there a difference in the experience between anticholonergics vs muscinol and other pathways?


Btw unrelated to the thread but great vid so had to share

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaZ5dTsst6Y&list=PLoYgEguf1BIhkso7T1Fsmna3IEhYrAvYz&index=13
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Simon Mobberstedge - Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:18:25 EST S5sLuaqh No.160073 Reply
>>160072
Deliroum is different from psychosis but not sure how
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Rebecca Brellytag - Fri, 26 Mar 2021 18:13:06 EST XeQYrKqD No.160075 Reply
>>160073
Confusion i belive is what sets del and psychosis apart but pretty damb similar
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Shitting Dizzlewell - Sat, 03 Jul 2021 15:32:02 EST KnVWHAnW No.160290 Reply
>>160073
Diphenhydramine gave me psychois, lol. (or something very similar ) There are entire events in my life that never even happened and i just imagined them. This was when I was sober. Hallucinating while sober is a bad sign. Luckily I'm over it now, but I think it lasted about 2 years on and off.

Does anyone have these side effects

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- Wed, 16 Jun 2021 05:31:48 EST SVatW8nW No.160250
File: 1623835908742.jpg -(61426B / 59.99KB, 720x730) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Does anyone have these side effects
Hey /del/ pic rel cause at this point I feel like I fucked myself up a little bit by a few years 3 to 4 of abusing weed shrooms deleriant drugs mainly dph and recently been getting into nightshades and tried mdma twice recently in the past both times all while dealing with enthusiasm potential psychosis on a regular basis and predisposition to schizophrenia and having recently made a batch of gummy edibles with 5 grams of raw distillate and ate a bunch butI didnt know at the time but to me this strain would be near purely if not all sativa so I spent all night fucked up tweaking out and at one point I had psychedelic visions while in a psychosis that lasted a few minutes can I just not eat edibles anymore?
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Esther Blollerstone - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 07:27:46 EST Jql3U1un No.160283 Reply
>>160280
>alcohol is an antipsychotic
that is not how it works lol hooch is an anxiolytic.
also i am spergo too and don't get much of this abd yeah nigga drinking on del or high doses of thc is beyond retarded. maybe need some time off getting fucked up brah
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Delinquent - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 12:48:59 EST BYXMfF3f No.160284 Reply
>>160283
yeah alcohol gives me psychosis (when combined with deliriants) not takes it away
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Samuel Wemblebotch - Sun, 27 Jun 2021 15:16:06 EST mz5JQoFE No.160289 Reply
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>>160285
>LAOUGH

regal jumping spider

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- Fri, 28 May 2021 09:26:32 EST 9OS6v7Cm No.160221
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looks just like dph spiders
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Hamilton Hangergold - Thu, 03 Jun 2021 08:26:12 EST 6oEyKK5z No.160235 Reply
>>160221
Hey these live with humans just fine right, can be house companions.
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Fuck Shittinglock - Tue, 22 Jun 2021 18:20:10 EST s928vrKh No.160271 Reply
to me they always look solid black and hairy, sometimes they morph into more of a sea urchin kind of shape

I'm thinking of trying out benadryl how do I prepare? And what am i in for?

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- Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:44:47 EST zCV9mPiZ No.157665
File: 1555296287061.png -(13331B / 13.02KB, 314x363) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I'm thinking of trying out benadryl how do I prepare? And what am i in for?
I've been curious about dph recently and since it's not a very popular drug there's not a ton of information about it I can find outside of erowid I was just wondering what dose you guy's would recommend I start with and also how should i prepare myself? (setting, mindset, thing's to do while high etc) the only other drug's I've done are weed and dxm so I know what being high feels like I just don't know what being on a deliriant is like. I was thinking of taking somewhere between 300 to 400 mgs and I was also considering combining it with 300 mg of dxm is that a good idea the first time or should i start by taking dph alone? What does dxm do to a dph trip?
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Nicholas Blackfoot - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:35:39 EST zCV9mPiZ No.157712 Reply
>>157710
I want to be delirious enough that I actually see and hear shit and I guess it was stupid of me to think 250 mg would get me there anyways no more test dosages I'll wait another week and when I have atlest 5 or 6 hours to myself I'll take about 400 or 500 mg with the remaining 265 mg of dxm that I have. that should get me where i want to be right?
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Charles Gurrypid - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:48:43 EST kw6gwj5W No.157713 Reply
>>157712

i'm not experienced in "high" dosages, but most /del/fags say it's the worst dosage range. they say one should take either <300mg or >700mg and in between is shit because you aren't fully delirious and tripping, but the body discomfort is the highest.

i'm experinced in 300+300 (as in 300mg dph + 300mg dxm). and that makes me hear and see shit pretty much. IME this combination and dosage isn't that much about OEVs and audio hallucinations, much more about "Inner trips", when you are laying in your bed or siting in your chair and have something like a full blown lucid dream. And then you have something intense happening in your lucid dream and say something out loud or kick with your leg, etc, and then you wake up and say: wtf i'm sitting in my motherfucked chair, i tought i was hanging out with friends at the club. then 30 seconds pass and you dreaming again, might be the same place and situation or completely different.
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Basil Ponnernutch - Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:03:35 EST D3tr4ub2 No.160268 Reply
>>157673
Yo don’t do it until you know you aren’t gonna get seen by your parents because you kinda look like your on crystal meth and you cannot talk like a regular human and you will be acting weird asf on pretty much any dose were you are tripping

dosages

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- Fri, 23 Apr 2021 23:02:42 EST Ei3QcRMm No.160141
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what is the best dose for minor visuals? im 5 ft 7 in 175lb if that helps
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John Pemmershaw - Sun, 02 May 2021 19:53:38 EST d2lTh2KV No.160164 Reply
>>160160
I did 400mg my first time last night, and yeah I didnt get too many visuals. I really wanna try a higher dose lmao
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Albert Pellywone - Tue, 01 Jun 2021 16:09:24 EST rZ8oMBZZ No.160233 Reply
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>>160159
300mg gives me full delirum
im 5'3 and 112 lbs tho
even 150mg and i see spiders forming out of the corner of my eyes
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Matilda Sottingford - Tue, 01 Jun 2021 19:50:49 EST Futd+ymj No.160234 Reply
>>160160
>actually having dph with caffeine
Very cardiotoxic combination. This fucks up your heart, don't do it kids

Plant spirits

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- Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:07:01 EST YN94dySS No.159990
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Source: http://firefly.gydja.com/description.html

DESCRIPTIONS OF ENTHEOGENIC SPIRITS
Belladonna/Deadly Nightshade
(Atropa belladonna)
Grandmother Belladonna has appeared as a slight fae woman with a dark purple gown, dark brown hair and pale white skin, colors that seem proper as she exists somewhere in the flux between life and death. A spirit with watery and Saturn energies, her relative quiet should not be mistaken for a retiring nature; she is dangerous because she is seductive and tempting, relaxing away defenses and good sense until death closes in.

Most people are safely able to approach Belladonna, though she seems to have her own ideas about who she is willing to work with, when, and in what way. When angered, she expresses her displeasure very clearly; such experiences leave a lasting impression. (I speak from experience; she was unhappy about my attempts to sprout belladonna seeds a few seasons ago. There is nothing quite like having a plant spirit yell at you.) I have slowly begun a working relationship with her, beginning with growing several plants from seed.

Datura /Sacred Datura/Jimsonweed/Thornapple
(Datura inoxia; Datura metaloides; Datura stramonium)
Species of datura were known in Europe after contact with the New World in the 16th and 17th centuries, though there is reference to a plant believed to be D. stramonium in the Old English Herbarium, a Latin text circulated in England by the ninth century (1). In Europe datura was sometimes used in the brewing of beer, like henbane. In North America , datura (D. metaloides and D. inoxia) had a tradition of ceremonial use, particularly in the southwestern United States , Mexico , and Central America . The plant was said to have a feminine nature (though was given the masculine name Toloache) and considered a malicious counterpart to the peyote spirit (also feminine). Even so, several cultures made use of datura's psychotropic nature and it is considered sacred for good reason.

The datura spirit has a dual nature almost to the point of being two separate beings. One is the active protection and the other is more stationary and holds the wisdom. The protective aspect, who I have seen in the form of a four-footed wolf-like beast, is the side most often encountered by those whose experiments with datura go badly (which seems to be the case a good 80% of the time). Fast, vicious, and speechless, this spirit is ruthless in tearing apart the physical and mental health of trespassers; permanent mental illness and death have been the results of some bad datura trips.

The other spirit (or the second half of the spirit, depending on your perspective) is Queen Toloache . Tall, white, and imperious, she speaks little though hers is the only voice you will hear. During my early work with the datura plant and spirit I was struck with the unexpected qualities of passion and even fertility in spite of it being such a virulent poison; it was no surprise when I discovered that datura has a reputation as an aphrodisiac. This seeming contradiction is also embodied in love Goddesses, whose favor is fickle and who have the equal ability to bestow joy and madness. Love can easily turn to obsession, the shadow side of that emotion. For this reason, I associate datura with love Goddesses, who always remind us that love is a weapon and a poison as well as a blessing; datura is the side of that blessing that carries a blade. Like love Goddesses, datura is very much a lady; she loves to be courted with music and song, and appreciates genuine efforts made to win her continued attention.

It is my firm opinion that Datura seeks you out, not the other way around. In the months before my first experience using datura , I saw the plants growing in unexpected and random places; that night my dreams would be visited by the spirit and images of the datura plant. This happened several times before it was the right time to get to know the plant one-on-one. Datura guards herself and her powers jealously; trespassers who enter her spiritual territory are shot on sight. You have to be invited into her realm and are in her control once you arrive; reckless pride has no place in working with this plant and spirit. Experimenting with datura leaves you at Queen Toloache's mercy (which is little mercy at all, since she lets her Protector take care of most concerns) and what assistance medical science can provide.

Fly Agaric
(Amanita muscaria)
Father Redcap (he told me he didn't like the distinction of Grandfather, and corrected me) is the direct ancestor of our modern image of the red-capped gnome. A diminutive spirit with a merry animated face, bright eyes, and possessing a distinctive red hat, Redcap is one of humanity's oldest plant allies. He is tricky and very clever, sometimes racing on ahead, sometimes sitting still and considering you with a mind that can find just about anything you wish to know; I think of him as a spiritual search engine or research librarian. He won't just give you the answers you seek, but he will help you find the path to locate them yourself. He can be grumpy or antisocial at times, perfectly playing the role of a grouchy old man who is stingy with his wisdom and consideration.

Like all mushrooms, fly agaric exists in a twilight space between life and death (or, as I think of it, between death and rebirth). He embodies the transition and that which transitions; it is this power that associates him with Odin. Redcap's powers suspend a person between the Worlds and cause the body and everything relating to it to be entirely forgotten for a few hours. Or a few years. You never know with Redcap. The spirit can be quite kinetic, contrasting with the physical chemistry of the mushroom, which totally removes the desire to move, and even the recollection of movement. It's the mind that accelerates and amazing things can happen under the touch of Father Redcap.

Father Redcap can be very…
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Betsy Chevingfit - Mon, 31 May 2021 12:37:49 EST OOV/NeJO No.160231 Reply
>>160230
yeah im not suprised this was the outcome after eating fucking THIRTY GRAMS. I once eat a big amount before and got fucked up for like 24+ hours and saw big blue zig zagging lines and felt like an old man with dementia. Kept forgetting where my roll upps and lighter was, when i found one i forgot the other and then found my lighter but misplaced my cig, went on for probably 2 hours before sleeping for 12 hours. felt weird for a week lol. . I never was big on the idea of mega dosing amanita cause that shit is retarded dawg
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Betsy Chevingfit - Mon, 31 May 2021 13:08:50 EST OOV/NeJO No.160232 Reply
>>160231
plus you never mix any booze with that shit dawg unless you want to end up in hospital where they will just assume you are a dumbass alkie or something because they wouldn't think any one actually eats fly agaric on purpose.

Staying up on DPH

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- Fri, 14 May 2021 17:33:53 EST cX+I48Yp No.160190
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Heyo,
what's the best way to stay up throughout a DPH trip? I plan on dosing around 500 and everytime I do anything that's not a full-on trip I end up knocking myself out when it starts kicking in.
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Charlotte Guddlepudge - Wed, 26 May 2021 00:28:12 EST ZC0H1gKG No.160211 Reply
>>160209
How do you keep doing that after ogasm?
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Delinquent - Fri, 28 May 2021 07:37:53 EST zeI0IXBs No.160219 Reply
>>160212
>the drug makes me pretty useless to where masturbating is pretty much all I’m capable of doing.
hahaha so true

nutmeg with acid?

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- Thu, 27 May 2021 10:39:23 EST zeI0IXBs No.160214
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I had a fresh nutmeg 12 hours before doing the LSD, I've always wanted to try this combination out of curiosity and it seems like a decent mix for me so far... I also had 150mg of DXM... I seemed to have increased heart rate at the start but now I think it's just potentiating the LSD. Thoughts about this combo?
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Delinquent - Thu, 27 May 2021 19:11:24 EST zeI0IXBs No.160215 Reply
>>160214
It didn't make much difference for LSD except increased heartrate and my lips looked more fucked up, so not sure if it's even worth mixing

Belladonna recommendations

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- Mon, 24 May 2021 21:27:48 EST rHO6JWJC No.160207
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Any recommendations for where to buy Belladonna online? One time I tried it and went back in time a day when I woke up but the store doesn't carry it anymore and I forgot the brand. Share stories too if you want. Anyone try in combination with ecstasy? Lol

dxm+dph music

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- Sat, 17 Apr 2021 16:01:06 EST B7Squyv/ No.160120
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anyone else make music on dxm and dph (just dph is fine <3) looking to collab

freestyle rap example for yall

hit me up on soundcloud
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- Sat, 22 May 2021 08:04:15 EST 8dzufSMe No.160204 Reply
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>>160120
bro i cant understand anything u fuckin saying lmao
if u really gonna do full self destruction drug rap then at the very least u should write bars while ur fucked up on whatever and then record the next day when the experience is fresh but your mouth isnt dessicated and ur brain can connect to reality enough to form legible words

Brugmansia dream

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- Sat, 17 Apr 2021 16:08:41 EST YN94dySS No.160122
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Bought 3 brugmansia trees today

When a friend and I were placing it at home the fresh energy in the home changed into an omnious and unrestful one. Neither expected this. We felt a very strong power present. Not very benign tbh. The aroma of the plant kinda sedates you as if having smoked a few puffs of weed and that reduces the unpleasantness.

Just woke up from the first nightmare I had in about a year. The plant bloomed full and started burning my house down. I fake woke up while still dreaming thinking I woke up and felt possessed nearly able to speak. Like sleep paralysis but in a dream. When I tried to get rid of her in the dream by putting it outside the plant started to mess with me with like energy fields. I also learnt that phenomena though actually empty still have impact.

Woke up in sweat
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Matilda Biffingfoot - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:54:09 EST P1/lRPaJ No.160150 Reply
>>160130
I like you.. haha, that really pisses me off too when hippy type people try to play both sides, and when they try to explain datura experiences away with oh its just in my mind;

when you do datura you go specifically to the spiritual realm where demons and the devil are. They dont like being visited..
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Jack Cevingbane - Thu, 20 May 2021 10:35:59 EST VHECjMXQ No.160201 Reply
>>160130
Did you get a strong feeling of deja vu?

Deja vu is when demons are trying to do something or have changed something..

Amoebas

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- Sun, 04 Apr 2021 20:12:30 EST IpfcCTyY No.160089
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Does anyone else see a lot of these guys on /del/? A recent trip on 500mg DPH/300mg DXM combo (plus weed) these things superimposed themeselves on my walls and wiggled and floated around in such a realistic way that I was struggling to remind myself that what I was seeing wasn't real because I had a literal 5 second memory and could barely string sentences together in my inner monologue to think to myself durring the most intense parts
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Fanny Bashwater - Fri, 14 May 2021 16:49:52 EST 5jPbOZmZ No.160189 Reply
>>160089
Maybe you guys are just seeing your white blood cells:)
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DPHATER - Wed, 19 May 2021 18:28:24 EST RFm/nJ2t No.160199 Reply
>>160089 Yea, someone already said it but those turn into bugs as soon as they appear. sometimes linking up and forming a centipede

I never used to be sick from DXM pills but now I am, what gives?

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- Mon, 17 May 2021 07:38:00 EST zeI0IXBs No.160195
File: 1621251480202.png -(518668B / 506.51KB, 750x783) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I never used to be sick from DXM pills but now I am, what gives?
Ever since I blacked out on 900mg of freebase DXM and was apparently sick while blacked out, I have been sick almost every time I take DXM now. I tried doing it on empty stomach, chasing it with just water and vaping weed on the come up but none of that helps.

I guess the only thing left now is low dose antihistamines? On my last trip after I was sick I didn't think I'd be sick again cause there was literally nothing left in my stomach but 10-20 minutes later I was sick again... So I took 50mg of DPH and wasn't sick again. I don't really wanna mix it with DXM though because it increases amnesia and the DXM trip is hard enough to comprehend on its own in my opinion.

Maybe ginger tea or drinking it with milk would work better? What do you guys think would work best or what has worked for you?

pic unrelated
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Reuben Cleddleforth - Mon, 17 May 2021 11:15:54 EST +h0OamFk No.160197 Reply
>>160196
Gerd? Maybe some rennies would kill the nausea? Maybe stick it on the shelf for a bit

/psydel/ dph acid

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- Fri, 12 Mar 2021 18:55:10 EST P+Rp5X1Y No.160041
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I hear alot of people on here talk about mixing DXM and DPH as a /dis/del/ combo. It seems like people recommend it alot and some swear by never taking DPH without DXM. But what I haven't heard about is people talking about /psy/del/ combos like mixing DPH and LSD. I mean it seems like a really good combo LSD removes the sleepiness from DPH and they both add hallucinations to the trip. Why isn't psydel as popular?
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Delinquent - Thu, 13 May 2021 05:34:16 EST zeI0IXBs No.160183 Reply
>>160177
I'm planning a fat sesh tomorrow, 600mg of DXM with 2 tabs of acid which is supposedly 250ug each, and take 400mg of DPH at the end of the night when the acid is mostly worn off. I am almost certain I will get some strong /del/ effects from that considering what's already in my system. I will try to write a trip report of when I do the DPH. I'll take a break after that for a month at least.
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Delinquent - Sat, 15 May 2021 11:22:25 EST zeI0IXBs No.160191 Reply
>>160183
after the DPH this is what I wrote:
"left leg starting to tingle. I was looking at myself through my computer and my cheeks looked fatter. I just hallucinated a bug. my face keeping going fat. another bug. visuals .are getting . i keep forgetting now to bteat i keep hallucinating that im aobut to die "
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Delinquent - Sat, 15 May 2021 13:41:05 EST zeI0IXBs No.160192 Reply
>>160191
>i keep forgetting now to bteat
i think that means i keep forgetting to breathe

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