/deli/ Deliriant Discussion
What is the maximum dose of DPH that won't give you permanent brain damage?
No one knows, and everyone is different.
0 mg. The line between "brain damage" and "semi-permanent changes in how you think and act" is very fuzzy though.500mg is the lowest dose that's ever made me feel "traumatized" for more than a day, if that's what you're looking for.
I got to 50mg X 100, wound up going under (as in death) when the docs dosed me with ativan and some benzos. Other than being completely out of it for 3 days, followed by a day of zero memory, went back to regular function.With that in mind, I'd say residual brain damage with dph is probably minimal unless you count in hallucinating something that completely sets off paranoia and sticks with you.
>>155926You did 5,000 mg? Please tell me more you crazy mofo
4.20 kilograms of DPH for every gram of bodyweight is the FDA recommended daily consumption limit
>>155907Personal research implied (if I remember correctly) that the lethal dose(s)-LD50 for DPH is anywhere from 2 grams to 3 grams depending on the individual. Not the answer you were looking for although I bet you can think about that one. I cannot remember anyone here actually getting to 2 grams unless they were joking...I have infact read a report of someone who did consume 60+ pills (So anywhere from 60 to 70 pills consumed) of Coricidin/CCC's (Purple Box, had to be or I wouldn't have given the report a second thought , ....where'd my brain go?) and died from that amount, yes I know that aint /de/ aswell as DXM being a potentiator but hey atleast an antihistamine is in it, so think about that one, too (: X;
>>155954Edit:Fuckin typo's dawg, tries to spell / del /but forgets the Leven doe we / deli / in this YA DERNShit now we gon be changed to / delir /that would be some shitEither last night or the night before I had300 MG's of DPH w/ almost a beer and a half of 8% Alcohol at 25 FL Ounces per-can, Regret that shit, no more Benny for me.....
>>155954While lethal dose does depend on the individual (weight, tolerance, age, gender, etc) LD50 doesnt because it means the lethal dose in 50% of the population as an average to be used as the most likely lethal dose for any given person. It's 500mg/kg in rats and for obvious reasons there's no human data so you'll have to extrapolate, which would be difficult to impossible.Better just to say dont exceed a gram. From then on it's normally blackout territory then what's even the fucking point?
YOU HAVE A BBB (Blood Brain Barrier), Kidneys and Liver. When you are young and healthy most damage to your body is to your Renal (Kidneys) due to its dehydration effect.
>>155907 back when I used to abuse DPH pretty much daily (so I had a pretty big tolerance) I took 50 something pills, probably 55ish. so that was over 1000mg, and I blacked out and woke up in a hospital with a catheter in my dick and got told my heart stopped beating twice. also got told I had to get helicopterd to a bigger hospital than the one in my town while I was OD'd AND I whisper-freestyled about beef jerky to one of the nurses before I came to. But I probably would have died, also i prob weighed 145 at the time and had a huge tolerence.
>>155970How long ago was this? And how are you feeling now?
>>155907Got brain damage from 750 mg.
Not even the surgeon general could tell you that, nb
>>155959I like you.
>>155907 The biggest problem with heavy doses is that unless you are taking something else to keep you from passing out/sleepwalking is... you're going to pass out, your body is going to be awake, your mind isn't, and that's where some of the most dangerous interactions you can have are, I'm not even talking about sending you into psychosis or permanent delirium.The highest I've ever gone is 850 before passing out, not realizing I passed out, and waking up in the woods, in the rain, completely naked, having grabbed a hornet's nest and being stung twenty three times on the arms and and face, having wandered through a patch of poison ivy, and having basically being completely detached from reality, without even remembering a thing about it.Let me put it to you this way. DXM and DPH addiction is not like a typical addiction. There is a flatline maximum safe dose no matter how much you can tolerate. These are definitely, definitely not once a day/once a week substances. Don't *ever* go past 500 on a single dose, don't ever go past 700 in general. If your tolerance gets to be that high, chances are you need to slow down.
>>155954There was a group of users on here a few years back who were taking 1.5g to 3g pretty often, so you can definitely survive, but they were regular users and pretty experienced.
25mg but even there you're pushing it. You can't unsee it...your brain won't forget it. Tread with caution.
>>156510I was fairly certain that 3g is one of those "horrible ways" to end yourself since it's a very slow process...
>>156516Yeah, I heard somewhere that anything past 2 grams is lethal. Imagine dying during a DPH trip... that would be fucking hellish.
Define "permenant." You'd be amazed what a brain can bounce back from.
I'm not saying that I'm fine because obviously I'm not but I've been doing 2-3 grams of dph daily-ish for about 3 years now, I come off for a week or so when I'm at the point of taking half a bottle to feel anything. Usually it's a 4 or 5 week cycle, I got my doc to write a script for Benny so it's free and I buy in bulk if I need to so it's not that expensive to keep up with.Kind of wish I could quit but it's not really affecting my life since I dose just before I get in bed, it just makes me sleep so goddamn much that I'm on a ton of stims to not be sleepy during work hours. I honestly enjoy the high over anything else, the chills, the itch, all of it. Dunno...I know it's not sustainable but I'll probably ride it out until something bad happens. Sorry for the blog post.
Well besides the seizures/bad decision making (and I'm understating bad here)...While your brain may bounce back...you can't "forget" much like PTSD the consequence of having permanent HPPD is very real. What that looks like for you and whether you can live with it or not is a gamble. It depends on what you define damage as I guess...going to the beach for the first time in one's life will produce permanent perceptual changes...not having ever driven...the same.It depends on how you define it...it will either mar or shape you. It is a gamble. I won't ever be able to "unsee" what I've seen or "forget" anything beyond the explicit. The implications will be with me forever it seems. The most annoying thing is probably phosphenes. Either I had them before and didn't notice or this was the result. Phosphenes are ugly to me. The visual snow that shifts/coalesces when sleep deprived or utilizing another substance...quite interesting.
>>155907there's no such thing as a DPH dose that wont give you brain damage, anon
>>156660At therapeutic doses DPH is good for fapping. The FDA says the occasional 50 mg dose is fine. Should I doubt that? I have some minor HPPD from 300/300 but never got anything like that from fap dosing DPH itself.Though I'm also developing this theory that anticholinergics in general are manifestations of Satan in chemical form, in the same way that the tritone is Satan in musical form. Everything in life is a wave, and the wavelength DPH inhabits is the wavelength of cruelty, insanity, blasphemy and vice. It awakens within me a special kind of sadomasochism anyway.
>>156665Bruh, tritones aren't satan, they're just spooky. It's a traditional stepping stone sound to induce spooks. It's also awesome in modular synthesis as a way to layer ambient tones. I mean, yeah, it's weird sounding but it's just music and human expression. The entire concept of human tonality is a man-made concept. I doubt satan made the treble and bass clef.
>>156666I'm sure he knows how to pirate them though...
>>156666>I doubt satan made the treble and bass clef.LIES!!
>I doubt satan made the treble and bass clef.
>>156666>I doubt satan made the treble and bass clef.He might not have made them himself, but he set the stage for their creation by convincing Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. Maybe That was the simplest way he saw for the creation of the treble and bass clef, seeing as how his only mortal body to control at the time before being cast out of Heaven by God was a slithery serpent without opposable thumbs (before losing his little legs altogether because God was a bit salty about the whole debacle).
>>1559842 or 3 years ago, i feel okay now, although sometimes get chest pains at work but i drink a lot of alcohol nowadays so that may have something to do with it. The static in my vision has never gone away, and my vision has been shitty ever since those days, i also did a lot of DXM around that time. Also feel like i would be a tad bit smarter had i not did as much DPH as often as I did.
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