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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

What made you get clean

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- Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:19:47 EST dpIO+886 No.30572
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For those who have long term sobriety, what was the catalyst and how did you find the motivation and steps to lead a better life?
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KB - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 13:01:45 EST ZASTjFXm No.30573 Reply
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>>30572 Around 30 years off the lot, heroin being the drug of choice. Righto here we go. At nearly 40 didn't have any cash for my rented room which was paid weekly. Had lost my profession and various businesses over the previous decade and a half due to dope. Whole life was about getting more drugs. Okay, I'm old, nearly 70, so glad one day I said no more. Just stopped, cold turkey in a detox from methadone (30ml daily) plus top ups of smack and codeine. Very painful. Tell you more if you want, let me know. I have other posts on this subject in the opiates discussion maybe 4 or 5 pages in.
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KB - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 13:07:59 EST ZASTjFXm No.30574 Reply
>>30572 ...just had a look, page 4 of opiate discussion replying to post by 'Cold Turkey from 4mg/day suboxone' with the Basketballer Jpeg picture.

Weening off Pot and Dealing With Withdrawal

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 19:39:33 EST IM86YoNJ No.30567
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What is the best way to stop nightly usage and the least painful way to completely detox? Mornings are the worst for me, and I take 20mg of an SSRI daily (why I want to stop)z
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Doris Crobblechurk - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 15:11:41 EST E5tMjZ9O No.30570 Reply
>>30567
With weed, cold turkey is easiest. Get rid of all your remaining weed then just don't buy more. The withdrawals, if you can even call them that, aren't anything bad. Usually I just get really really bored, irritable, and not hungry and I get a little diarrhea and it's hard to sleep for a couple of nights. After about three days everything except the boredom is gone, but that's more of a side effect of sobriety rather than withdrawal.
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Walter Dackletot - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 19:21:29 EST Z6RxDAi2 No.30571 Reply
>>30570
You might have a few fucked up dreams for a while after. That's common but it's not hard. What Doris said will work and you'll be fine.

it's more that if you're used to being high your body has adjusted its homoestasis to compensate. Once you stop smoking you'll be a bit less hungry and your dreams will be vivid and weird an that will stop after a few days or weeks. Continue with your life as before pot aside and it's done.

If you're getting anything else it's not the pot that's the problems.

Xanax WDs- How long can it last?

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- Sun, 18 Aug 2019 13:29:33 EST OvdHNUHp No.30568
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I've tapered from 4mg+ to 0.5mg a day in roughly 4 months.

I've been taking Xanax for about a decade now. Needless to say I feel pretty terrible. I can't sleep even with exercise. I'm afraid I'll have a heart attack due to the constant major anxiety and lack of rest. It never stops. My mood is an absolute mess as well. I feel like crying 24/7.

What also scares me is the idea I've already gone back to normal since it has been 4 months. I've always been awfully anxious so this might be what sober life is going to be from now on.

Just how long can this last? I really hope this is still WDs otherwise I don't know how I'm going to survive this, both physically and emotionally.
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Betsy Manderdock - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 13:46:58 EST qTbkD5B5 No.30569 Reply
For me it was a year at least but I was on them for 10.

Methadone treatment, can I use opiates while on methadone?

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 01:42:39 EST R2loQZ16 No.30557
File: 1565934159217.jpg -(86736B / 84.70KB, 892x1834) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Methadone treatment, can I use opiates while on methadone?
I've been on 110mg of methadone for about 8 months, and I'm wanting to use opiates. If I use other opiates, will I feel any effect at all? How long do I need to stop taking methadone before I can feel any effects?
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Charles Gommermig - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 02:09:17 EST h3k26bsg No.30565 Reply
>>30557
DId you feel methadone before? Isn't it like synethetic morphine of sorts?
If you don't get high on it, doen't mean other opiaods wll not get you high.

It does not nor is intended to make you not get high on opiates if you use them.

even if methadaone never got you high, it's still there. Some go from methadone clinic and do herion by default. As peroson said, it's dangerious to do so, and wouldn't. If you haven't, then why do so. You would almost cetainly feel the other opiate, likely not in a very much good way, it could definately and esailly backfire.

Shit you draw in sobriety

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- Thu, 06 Jun 2019 19:08:08 EST SWi5R6pH No.30405
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So surely there are artists and addicts both out there!

Post the shit you drew in sobriety to cope with being sober.

I got 7 pictures so far, will post more later.

I started doing these "podium drawings" because at my rehab, a dude would always share at a podium.

90 days sober.
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John Crommlebury - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:01:31 EST IFPTLOuA No.30534 Reply
>>30454
is this all your work? it's amazing man
can i follow you anywhere
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Albert Hivingson - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:06:34 EST GiiCgdne No.30555 Reply
hey these are all pretty good OP
stay strong!

1,4-butanediol taper

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- Mon, 12 Aug 2019 06:40:38 EST GawcegWN No.30554
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On a 1,4-butanediol detox. Have phenibut, Lyrica, and enough 1,4-butanediol to taper. Don't want to end up in the hospital. Will ask doctor for baclofen as a last resort. Can't really tell when the BDO is starting to wear off other than the stinging pains I get as a reminder that my blood pressure is spiking. How do I swing this?

SSRI DETOX

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- Thu, 08 Nov 2018 23:56:01 EST TiLbru36 No.30237
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Is there any way to speed up detoxing SSRI's from the body? Specifically Prozac.

I've started taking Vyvanse again and I've been on 40mg of Prozac, and I'm not getting nearly as many of the effects as I used to, and I have 0 tolerance. Apparently there's some sort of liver enzyme bullshit that Prozac is blocking, so tl;dr when I take it I only feel it for like an hour if that, then I just feel like I'm crashing for 8 hours.

Is there any way to get this out of my system faster? I know Prozac lasts fucking forever, but I was thinking maybe if I did cardio or drank a shit ton of water I could clean myself out faster. Been off it for about 2 days
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Fanny Greenshit - Sun, 03 Mar 2019 23:22:24 EST yo59Frw9 No.30282 Reply
>>30237
wish i could help, i tried prozac and it kinda instant serotonin head issues,
alcohol may help, clonazepam may help. may want to kcik the Vyvanse
for a while. I think that may a big contributing factor
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dr. m - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:18:51 EST hrseF5HX No.30533 Reply
>>30237

Nah dude. Prozac takes 5 days for half of it to leave your system, and then the half that breaks down takes another 7-15 days for half of THAT to leave your system. I was able to cold Turkey 20mg/day of Prozac with zero withdrawal. Now I only take 20mg prozac once a week and it works much better for me.

Alcohol Abstinence Thread

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- Tue, 22 Aug 2017 07:47:47 EST 5nT9NWqY No.29436
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Greetings /detox/.

After really admitting to myself how badly my alcohol addiction was affecting other aspects of my life, I have made a serious decision to stop usage for a while. I am going to document my journey in this thread to amuse the bored, encourage those who may be dealing with similar problems, and to keep myself focused and honest. If I slip up I will be honest as well.

Little background:
>Duration of alcoholism: 8 years
>Frequency of consumption: 5-7 days per week with no period of abstinence longer than 2 days
>Amount consumed per day: ~7oz of ethanol in an evening
>Affected aspects of life: work, school, relationships, hobbies, mental and physical health

I am currently on my fourth day with no alcohol and I am already seeing and feeling notable improvements in my body and mind. I will go over how each day felt.

>First 24 Hours
By far the worst. Not only from the withdrawals, but the knowledge that booze is not coming any time soon. Sweating, shaking hands, lack of appetite, insomnia, flushed skin, increased blood pressure, irritability, dark and disturbing dreams when sleep comes in fits

>24-48 Hours
The dandruff I started to notice over the past couple of months already looks almost completely cleared up, amazingly, as well as a few pimples on my face. Bloating of abdomen and general system-wide inflammation decreased. Belly size shrunk, clothes fitting looser. Appetite growing. Sleeping still difficult, but less sweating. Occasional faint auditory hallucinations.

>48-72 Hours
Getting more bearable. Starting to feel a tiny glimmer of hope that I can rise out of the hole I have dug. Shits are solid and don't smell sickly sweet. Further decrease in bloating and inflammation. Since digestive system has finally caught a break from continuous processing of toxic poison sludge (I mostly drink 40's containing HFCS), my appetite is extremely strong. Mind fog starting to lift. Almost scared at the resurgent cognition after removing CNS depressant. Like a muffled voice that can finally speak freely, my thoughts are racing almost faster than I can keep up.

>72-96 Hours
This is where I am now. Can't sleep tonight, I'll just pull an all-nighter and crash tomorrow night. After laying in bed awake for a few hours I decided to make this thread. My digestive system feels wonderful. You don't know how nice a solid poop is until you are a truly depraved alcoholic. My mind feels clear. I am looking forward to a nice big nutritious breakfast tomorrow since I won't be hungover and bloated and nibbling on toast. I am no longer perspiring abnormally, and the shakes in my hands are almost 100% gone, I can hold them very still like I used to.


I won't blog this shit every day, but every few days I'll update my detox thread for my own viewing later. Anyone has comments/questions, toss 'em in the thread.
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Henry Crushsin - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:29:12 EST zhgojll7 No.30512 Reply
>>29436

Nowhere near as long as you but I stopped after too much a few months ago and haven't looked back. Recently took up running too.. just a few days a week but I go out and try and stay out for an hour.. I'll stop to breathe or walk some distance and just sweat and sweat... its only added to the positive mental effects I achieved through stopping drinking. I feel much smarter and able to handle life since taking it up
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Henry Crushsin - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:33:28 EST zhgojll7 No.30513 Reply
>>30510
Thats a good idea actually
Just remember every time you try to stop. It builds up momentum. If you fail and drink you have more success the more times you try... it took me many times quitting to get it done for a significant period of time, but I'm glad I never gave up on trying.
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Frederick Buzzhall - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 05:55:25 EST WCBgob4/ No.30521 Reply
>>30510
>but when i know i am going to struggle with alcohol on a night, i trick my brain
>by hijacking my booze routine. i go down to the local gas station where i
>usually get booze, but instead i get a coffee/hot chocolate mixed 50/50 and
>a little snack or a sandwich.

That is a perfect way to change your routine, working it into another working routine.
Will go to a liquor store and think, I didn't drink last night, surely I can live another night without. Or when I usually get alcohol just by default, even late, and just think,
if I wait another hour, it will be too late to get some. Wake up in the AM and maybe think, that was definately a good move by not buying.

Ket addict to ultra runner on ketogenic diet

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2019 22:59:04 EST 00eHmqeF No.30496
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Seen this? He touches on a really important principle, that if you want to stop doing some kind of thing you need to find a suitable replacement. In his case he replaced a ket habit with ultra running and a specific diet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96VZFklUM_Q
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Ian Lightham - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:46:34 EST 5jBot1Wm No.30503 Reply
>>30502
Hey, same guy but assuming my ID will have changed due to different location today... To answer your questions - well in a nutshell I've been doing all of this for years now. I'm not shitting on what you're saying, but I've been there done all that. Now maybe that's enough for some people to quit their addictive behaviour, but for a lot of others it wont be. Looking for the underlying cause is stepping it up a level when the basic 'lifestyle changes' just dont cut it. I mean I've just been diagnosed with Bipolar (as said in my last post) and your reaction to that post is to question whether I get exercise and eat right?? I agree with some of the stuff you said as a general rule, but you shouldn't dismiss looking deeper into self for the underlying cause or for answers to problems.
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Fanny Blatherwell - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:47:39 EST 00eHmqeF No.30504 Reply
>>30503
No problems, I'm just offering advice. It worked for me (on my almost decade-long chronic anxiety). I don't know about bipolar disorder.
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Sidney Marringpodge - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 00:10:07 EST 8DF+rm4w No.30520 Reply
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That was a super chill video. Today I am 10 months clean from opiates, benzos and meth, and I've been really trying to look at some kind of healthy hobby. Skateboarding and swimming were what I had in mind

is there any hope to feel normal after years of amphetamine abuse?

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- Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:33:23 EST M1vf01ne No.30514
File: 1564414403200.jpg -(73197B / 71.48KB, 400x524) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. is there any hope to feel normal after years of amphetamine abuse?
Ive been clean from stims fot a couple of months now, and still dont feel anywhere close to normal. I blew a couple years of my life abusing vyvanse heavily, and occasionally other stims, and finally got fed up with it. Still not feeling close to normal is extremely discouraging and hellishly depressing. Im terrified that i have ruined my life, and i cant see myself living my life feel flat like this forever. i cant even take normal doses of stimulants without chest pains and other worrying symptoms either now, so i cant supplement the fucking dopamine i need either. i cannot go on like this much longer, if you guys have been through this and recovered please tell me... i really need some kind of hope tight now...
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Archie Suttingnudging - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:12:49 EST rl4uHNmE No.30515 Reply
Sorry to hear you're really struggling - I'm not familiar with stims as such. I mean I've dabbled with a few, but I'm no expert in this area - Opi's were my downfall! But in terms of trying to get the natural dopamine going again, i do know that l-tyrosine is a good supplement to take. Cant remember the exact science of it, but I think it somehow gets your body producing it's own dopamine again. If you aren't on any sort of antidepressant medication - also worth looking at 5htp too. Another good supplement which helps kickstart the good brain chemicals! All I can say is keep going with what you're doing and have hope! Things will get better as time goes on - but I know that's not going to help you now. Just try to remain positive if you can. Distract yourself with new hobbies, even some light to moderate exercise can help boost natural endorphins etc...
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Archie Humblenock - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:28:50 EST Pg8Ve1RV No.30516 Reply
I used to smoke meth on a regular basis for two years. It took about six months before i started to see positive signs.
Clean for four years now. Dont worry, You'll get there.
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Walter Dennerstog - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:52:05 EST oxhu8ilP No.30519 Reply
>>30514

I had the same thing as this >>30516 guy except euro speed and RCs instead of meth. Six months is the usual healing time after hard drug abuse. It doesn't mean you'll be normal after 6 months but you will feel much better. Just keep going and remember that actively bettering your life is a just as huge factor in regenerating as time. I know it's very hard, when the dopamine needed for motivation, which in turn is needed to start doing things actively is missing.

>>30515

The exact chemistry is that L-Tyrosine is converted to Levodopa, than that is converted to Dopamine. You don't need expensive supplements, tyrosine is one of the 20 amino acids found in proteins. Another one of those is phenilalanine which is converted to tyrosine in the body if needed. So OP eat lots of protein (meat, legumes, diaries, etc). Try to excercise. In the first few weeks you have to force yourself but it works wonders after that.

OP there is hope, lot of people came out of that pit before. It sucks major dicks now, but you'll get better and you'll be proud of yourself and maybe even a happy person.

BWD

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- Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:29:00 EST 1NUYf9VK No.30012
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Bump While Detox

On Green Tea + MangoPeach Juice rn, whoa brauh the room is stable and there's the faint smell of feces or burning acrylic as the nastiness is cleansed from my body.
Going to go meditate and head out to enjoy the festivities with a clean head. Probably should shower too.

BWD
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Jenny Durrynudge - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:51:03 EST 1Pc5zbPG No.30310 Reply
Run out of hash, admittedly I dont smoke much, 1 gram can last weeks, though I was doing codeine too and Naproxen both for pain, CBD ran out of and Im only eating fish, nuts, eggs, some greens, greek yogurt. My anti biotics course just finished. Im trying to be clean for a bit, hadnt fapped for a week and a half but was feeling highly strung and was so horny other night I ordered a fleshlight

On my fridge it says, No nicotine (was doing snuff), caffeine (gives me tmj), alcohol (self explanatory) sugar (trying to slim down)

So Im low carb no drink or drug atm, it kinda just happened, feel like I need to clean my system a bit. Will have a little drink and eat whatever over my bday next weekend, hope that doesnt mess up my hard work. Might have to get some hash (I can get bored) but that'll be all.

feeling kinda clean tbh feels good man :)
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Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:20:11 EST YaY2oWWS No.30482 Reply
>>30012
cold turkey from 4-8mg day suboxone and this fucking sucks everything hurts i just wanna be fucking done with this shit
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Angus Sushmere - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:02:41 EST S90C7mly No.30518 Reply
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i was not stoned for about half a year. from 15yo to 22yo.

i stumbled across ayahuasca

basically everything changed from this experience on. nowadays im really healthy, doing sports regularly and my lungs have recovered.

but from time to time you can find other drugs in my systems.

Podcasts/articles

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- Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:24:53 EST zhgojll7 No.30511
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Podcasts or information useful to addicts or people who've suffered from drug problems.
Russell Brand whilst he used to be insufferable to me, this latest converastion with Doctor and Addiction expert Gabor Mate was music to my ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-mJnYmdVmQ is the link.

It might be useful to some people here... but it goes a lot deeper than addiction... Particularly awesome to me was the part about parenting which I thought is something that needed to be said that isnt talked about a lot.

BWS 3

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- Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:28:12 EST cXy+on2h No.29922
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Last one stopped bumping.

It's been 2 weeks since I started my suboxone taper. I'm doing good. Just taking everything day by day.

I've been in therapy for 1 month already. I've made quite a bit of progress in such little time. I feel better about myself and am becoming emotionally and mentally stable for once in my life. I'm starting to realize my potential as a person who can achieve anything as long as I can see it. Seeing is achieving. The mind is what you create.
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Oliver Secklestone - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 09:43:34 EST BxVwTepe No.30459 Reply
>>30458
Thanks for the kind words! I'm not going to lie. Over the past 2 weeks I've had thoughts of getting high again. It was hard for me. But, I made it through and didnt succumb to temptation. I'm getting better at telling myself "no". Now, I just think back to when I was abusing drugs and how I felt so low about myself and where I was in life and that enough makes it easier for me to not do that shit ever again and not give into temptation. Drugs just bring a temporary happiness and is not worth it whatsoever.
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Edward Dapperditch - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:05:38 EST BxVwTepe No.30492 Reply
It's been over 1 month now since I got done my taper. I'm not going to lie... I've been struggling a bit mentally with wanting it. But, it's getting easier for me as each day goes by. I slipped up a couple times over the past month. But, it's not a total relapse. I'm just keeping myself occupied with the gym and clearing my mind through meditation everyday. I'll be getting a job soon too which will help drastically with keeping temptation out of my mind.

I dont want to get myself involved with any kind of drug ever again including weed. I can function now mentally and emotionally without the need for illegal substances. I'm doing good.
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Hugh Bettingcocke - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:53:05 EST BxVwTepe No.30509 Reply
2 months clean now. I feel like myself again for the first time in years as I'm doing things to better myself. I've been hitting the gym 5 days a week over these past 2 months. The gym is my therapy and I'm so confident in myself now and my self-esteem is getting better and better as time goes by. I don't think about getting high anymore as it's not a big deal to me anymore and honestly id rather be productive and do something to better myself rather than stay high all day.

I'm on the right track now and I'm highly fuking motivated to become the strongest version of myself in and out.

Benzodiazepines: A story of love, memory, and the pending doom

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- Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:30:42 EST WpuPBHYJ No.30247
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I started in 2016. Following some horrible life events, I placed a clearnet order for etizolam. I should have seen a doctor. I should have heeded the warnings. But after what I went through I couldn’t handle sleeping one hour a night for weeks on end.

No, wait, let’s jump back four years. I dated a girl with a clonazepam script which she seldom used. I would occasionally take 1-2mg. I never had a problem. I had a problem with other drugs, but not benzodiazepines. It is a fact rarely disputed in the medical or harm reduction communities that while occasional benzodiazepine use is safe, long-term use can bring on withdrawals that are “worse than heroin.”

Now, let’s set the record straight. I’ve done enough heroin to develop an addiction. Benzodiazepines are worse. Prolonged use, even at therapeutic doses of benzodiazepines, can result in months of acute withdrawal and years of post-acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS).

From etizolam I found clonazolam. I never really liked it, but I would cut it up onto very tiny doses (well-aware of the dangers of hot spots in vendor-pressed 1mg pills of anything). And after a year or so, I started to wake up unable to see.

Really. Etizolam has a quite short half-life, so taking it and going to bed for 8 hrs is enough to wake up with your hands involuntarily shaking, your eyes misprocessing reality - I don’t know if they were seizures, but they might as well have been. From there, I reached out for help online.

I spent hours each day researching taper schedules, reviewing equivalency charts, methodically planning my mathematical reduction to zero.

And I still failed. It took 12mg diclazepam - the equivalent of 120mg diazepam - to finally stabilize. But everyone in my life could tell, from my past behavior to my new I-just-don’t-give-a-fuck attitude followed by random extreme panic attacks when I made dose reductions.

I did eventually seek out medical help. I couldn’t get past 3mg diclazepam (but I went 12->3 myself!). So I started calling psychiatrists. And rehabs. I had people tell me a taper is crazy, that it just keeps you addicted longer (if a psychiatrist or mental health counselor ever tells you this, review the Ashton Manual and run the other way. Consult a real doctor). Eventually I found someone.

I’ve done well with 15% or so reductions every few months. Stable, holding down a job, starting to regain love in life and hobbies and everything I had before my life fell apart.

PSA: avoid daily benzodiazepine use. It is fundamentally unsafe.

I’ll write more as time provides.
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Fucking Hublinghall - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 19:19:54 EST Dswgp8IR No.30268 Reply
>>30247

I came off a 3 year multiple-bar a day habit summer 2016 and STILL feel weird. A couple weeks ago my fucking back left upper molar CHIPPED because I grind my teeth NON STOP
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Dundun - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 06:35:28 EST Z2OQyIBq No.30508 Reply
>>30247
For all I know I'm the OP cause my addiction was similar but I don't remember anything. I'd also experience those shakes. I agree they felt like seizures. Eventually I did have a grand Mal seizure. Fucking sucks.

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