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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
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James Siffingwill - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:28:12 EST ID:cXy+on2h No.29922
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Last one stopped bumping.

It's been 2 weeks since I started my suboxone taper. I'm doing good. Just taking everything day by day.

I've been in therapy for 1 month already. I've made quite a bit of progress in such little time. I feel better about myself and am becoming emotionally and mentally stable for once in my life. I'm starting to realize my potential as a person who can achieve anything as long as I can see it. Seeing is achieving. The mind is what you create.
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Ebenezer Lightfield - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 01:20:04 EST ID:5axECasJ No.30312 Ignore Report Reply
>>30288
Probably my last post. In a week I'll have been off of opiates for a year. It's been a strange struggle for sure. I can think of hundreds of days where I wanted to be high, hundreds of days when I wanted to be drunk. But where I'm at now, I'm not really sure why I wanted those things so badly. Yeah, my life is shit but it's doable without using something to fix it for a few hours. I guess that's about as profound as I can be about the situation. Best of luck to you lot. Bumping while sober.
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Esther Dreckledock - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:27:44 EST ID:aYe9HZRw No.30326 Ignore Report Reply
>>30308

Bro, 6 months without weed too. I smoked everyday and got really grumpy when I could not do it, I also spent less time with my gf and friends because of it.

Nowadays I get horrible cravings, specially when bored. How do you deal with them?
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Thomas Chennershit - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:34:14 EST ID:xYSz4kt7 No.30328 Ignore Report Reply
>>30326
I'm going on 7 months of no weed. It was hard at first to control myself with cravings. But, I got over it and it's the best decision I made. Just got to take things day by day and stay occupied so you dont think about it.


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Lillian Sacklewotch - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:52:41 EST ID:yES5CEC7 No.30311
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Hey /detox/. I’ve got a drug test coming up sometime on or after May 20th. I recently smoked a quarter oz over the course of a week, but I quit smoking on the 6th or 7th of this month. I’m 173Ibs and 5’8”. I’m pretty confident that it’s gonna be a piss test, and I’ve been drinking a lot of water to try and clean out my system. I’m also considering the possibility of getting back into running (I used to be able to run a 5k 3-4 times a week). You guys think I have a chance of passing? I’m pretty nervous and paranoid with this whole situation. Thanks for any advice you can provide.
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Edwin Pattingford - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 03:20:45 EST ID:DKxfKlAP No.30320 Ignore Report Reply
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>>30311
That's rough OP, I know your anxiety. Running is your friend not only because you'll sweat buckets but because it will boost your metabolism and therefore the elimination of trace metabolites. Staying hydrated will also help your body naturally do what it does. In my recent testing research I learned that it isn't only the timing of smoking that effects detectability but the frequency and dosage when smoking that also effects it. Take that for what you will. Some happier advice is that regardless of how you stress or chill about the upcoming test, the results will be what they will so try not to fixate (easier said than done, I know). On the plus side if you're detoxing now, or at least starting to, you already have some sobriety days working to your favor. So build on this sobriety window and if this opportunity falls through don't worry yo - you just keep on keepin' on until you get that result you want. Eating some veggies or greens with your hydration can't hurt either. If you're still losing hair about it when the day comes, just over-hydrate so they have to re-test at another time. That inadvertently worked for me when I was actually clean and they didn't batt an eyelash about it. There's some interesting research about essentially mind over matter relating to physiology as well. Your body has a multitude of receptors, and more often than not a single observable physical response is governed by more than a single receptor. I.e. different receptors elicit different responses within the same physiological system. Consider adrenaline. Just by overthinking and worrying, we create adrenaline, a very real chemical hormone. JUST BY THINKING IN A WORRISOME MANNER. So convince yourself that you'll be A-Okay, and your body will respond with comforting reactions. It's hard to employ the "just be positive" card unless you believe it, I know, but it's definitely better than worrying too much. Great luck and good wiggles yo
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Jarvis Puddlechudge - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:19:20 EST ID:eVQ5Y21i No.30325 Ignore Report Reply
By then you will have been clean for over a month. Continue to abstain and you will almost certainly be fine. Just don't be one of those retards that smokes a bowl thinking he can get away with it and throw away all your progress.
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Hugh Pockwater - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 11:48:37 EST ID:XwPqIcJ+ No.30327 Ignore Report Reply
>>30320
I thinks it's also fair to note that various fruit juices work better than water. They replace nutrients that would be flushed by drinking a lot of water, which can cause a false positive in some cases like probation. Which isn't necessarily a problem for op, but it never hurts to be safe. Cranberry juice is my go to.


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Charles Gemmlelock - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 02:09:35 EST ID:L40/xCq+ No.30322
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A little backstory on why: I'm prescribed Xan , but I haven't needed it often thus I have a large surplus. I'm going through some of the biggest stressors of my life right now like moving a very long distance, along with various related and non-related legalities. As such, I've been taking it more and more frequently to cope, sometimes twice or more a day since I have the surplus.

I've been feeling my cognition, memory, and motor skills make a gradual decline over time, but I felt like I was able to manage it until today. I almost ran over a fucking girl who ran the crosswalk. I should have seen and reacted to it an order of magnitude quicker. Now I feel like complete shit. I've decided that I'm going to throw all of it out and never touch the stuff again.

I quit a benzo cold turkey a very long time ago after I was tired of the ineffective drugs and medical systems in place in society. It sucked and I felt like I was going to die, but ultimately I was fine. I shall do the same again and bite the bullet even if it's worse this time.

I thought that fuck Xan was a meme and that I could handle anything but seriously, fuck Xan, I'll find my chill another way. Thanks for letting me vent here.
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Archie Fuddlewatch - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:33:24 EST ID:DKxfKlAP No.30323 Ignore Report Reply
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>>30322
I'm happy for you, Charles! Benzo dependence is a bitch. I think you drew a very important line when you realized it was affecting your ability to not inadvertently mangle an innocent child. I've never had xan withdrawal but they tell me it's physically dangerous unless you taper. If you're deep in it I strongly suggest you don't cold turkey it for safety reasons but I'm no doctor. Thanks for venting, this board can get lonely for obvious reasons.
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Nigel Clibberwan - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 01:39:36 EST ID:O2oCWrRB No.30324 Ignore Report Reply
>>30322
I highly recommend meditation. It's a slog at times, and the changes ar every slow and gradual, but long term you definitely won't regret it


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Betsy Bablinghere - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:01:33 EST ID:oGVyIvhg No.29956
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I'm no quitter. But I'm coming off of a bender that was pretty great. I'm now in my second day of moderation.
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Cyril Bardspear - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 02:45:11 EST ID:gPtZreQW No.30315 Ignore Report Reply
>>30280
30 or so beers a day is way too much. You can get by with 40 per night and work or something during the day. If anything, reset your drinking amounts to minimal in comparison. One may notice they can actually get by pretty well with a strong buzz
or fair buzz and sleep. Without kinda compulsively drinking massive amounts of alcohol just because it's there. One thing is, there is always a point where alcohol, may not be available.
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Thomas Murdman - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 13:27:26 EST ID:P6r5GixG No.30317 Ignore Report Reply
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I strongly recommend you lads to get a prescription for naltrexone. Order it online from an Indian pharmacy if you have to

It's cut down my average drinks per week from 100+ to less than 14. Doing SMART recovery alongside the naltrexone helps too
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Edward Hissleshaw - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 13:47:12 EST ID:cQotqwDz No.30321 Ignore Report Reply
>>30315
a 40 ouncer right


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Edwin Tootham - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:04:00 EST ID:u7ktqwo/ No.30318
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This is gonna sound faggy but I have been addicted to codeine ffor like 9 months and I recently got off of it(3 weeks!) And I had no withdrawl symptoms except for some cravings which I cured with some good ol reefer. Is this normal? Could it be the weed that helped me or something else? I even asked my doc and hes clueless aswell so I'm wondering if I could get and answer
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Edwin Pattingford - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 03:04:15 EST ID:DKxfKlAP No.30319 Ignore Report Reply
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>>30318
You know I couldn't say. I've never been addicted to codeine but I've abused it. I never got withdrawals but ended up needing a dick catheter so that was fun. It sounds like you substituted a shitty drug for a gentler one though, so kudos! Maybe smonkin' roofer helped your endogenous cannabinoid system to balance and that alleviated any cessation anxiety, I dunno. Sorry I'm not more useful but this board needs activity like I need clean urine


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xavier mod. - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 19:25:27 EST ID:/gzNKyEq No.30255
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smoking after ten years vaping also
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Isabella Brindercocke - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 05:33:35 EST ID:1MqxIP/o No.30265 Ignore Report Reply
>>30264
>This is a slow board

Yeah I imagine people trying to stay off of drugs would probably want to avoid an online community which is focused almost entirely on drugs.
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Hamilton Tootwater - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:33:01 EST ID:qTYZOCuv No.30266 Ignore Report Reply
>>30255
I started vaping yesterday. I do not want to get some kind of cancer from smoking cigs and die. Not worth it at all. All you're doing is killing yourself slowly. Glad I came to my senses.
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Thomas Pembleham - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 07:10:30 EST ID:T3Vem43G No.30316 Ignore Report Reply
>>30255
Congrats OP.
I'm trying to quit smoking too. Got down to 2 cigs a day, was down to 1 cig a day over the last week but smoked a bunch last night because I was on a mephedrone binge. Hasn't been too bad other than that though.


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Graham Pillerwire - Fri, 01 Mar 2019 01:55:48 EST ID:k5iQMwwM No.30278
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I want to go to an Al-Anon meeting. What's it like?
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adolph hadituptohere - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 04:31:29 EST ID:ZASTjFXm No.30299 Ignore Report Reply
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>>30298 I can't help thinking you got it all wrong I'm 29 years clean and have never ever declined a drink saying "no, I am an alcoholic". I just say I don't drink. Got a job 28 years ago and never have I told anybody I'm an alcoholic/addict, It's an anonymous program after all. Yes I did the steps but took 12, maybe 15 years to do them all, going to regular meeting is what's important. It's not particularly about coffee or tobacco just drugs that change your consciousness to the extent you go to any lengths to get them and they are on your mind all the time. All your friends are using some form of dope.
It's not a cult in my opinion, just a form of spirituality albeit an American one that works for drug addiction if you want to do it and initially it is not easy. If I needed my lawn mowed and asked a newcomer to do it they wouldn't do it. Yet if the Dali Lama asked a follower to do same or the late Jim Jones or David Miscavige of Scientology I am sure that lawn would be mowed...hundreds would volunteer! I'm sure Buddhism works just as well and it's an eight fold path not a 12 step approach but you have to decide to do it and that's the problem with most people, the decision to 'do it'.
The largest number of NA meeting these days is in Iran not the USA just by the by.. Of course there are other methods to stop drinking or using dope however I think AA and NA are the easiest and one gets to regularly see addicts who have overcome the compulsion which is why it is urged newcomers do lots of meetings, that's hope, the first step, that you can do it too. AND, you don't get a medical record outlining what you are on and all the medical fuck up's trying to clean up.
I'd tell you more about myself but you may not be interested. Good luck nonetheless.
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David Medgespear - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 18:30:54 EST ID:cQotqwDz No.30301 Ignore Report Reply
>>30299
> It's an anonymous program after all.

Well, surely probation, courts like to see that you are aattending meetings. So they want proof. Aside, there can be spies. Not being paranoid, or delusional. But like cops taking down license plates at political rallies. Same principle. I went to DUI classes some time back and person would be writing down notes when certain people talk. Where the policy was that anything said was confidential. When certain people spoke, the scribbling would begin. I am sure AA has gotten more sane over the years. But, I believe one can transform AA into another fasion to keep level. As in, not fully relying on it for life. But put the understandings in any direction one want's to go.

But whatever. I know alcohol, like other drugs can be surely a burden. Even devastating.
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Cyril Bardspear - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 02:36:45 EST ID:gPtZreQW No.30314 Ignore Report Reply
>>30299
>I can't help thinking you got it all wrong I'm 29 years clean and
>have never ever declined a drink saying "no, I am an alcoholic".
>I just say I don't drink.

Well, things may be different but back when, that was the norm. I can't drink, I am an alcoholic. If one would say they claim otherwise, like I don't drink, they were deemed to be lying to themselves by not saying they are alcoholics/addicts on the spot if the issue arises. Kind of like a scarlet letter if you will. Embroidered onto themselves, by the shame/mistakes of the past.

Now drinking continuously, with problems because of, surely one is likely an alcoholic. But not drinking, surely one can be anything they want, without judging themselves as a non-drinking but lifetime alcoholic.

Eh whatever,


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Reuben Pendershit - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 17:01:25 EST ID:oU62K+Qd No.29980
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so i'm a lurker here and there, don't really post a lot but i'm super anxious about this upcoming drug test. i could post this anywhere else, but i don't want anyone i know irl to see that i smoke weed.

anyway, i've been clean for well over half a year (was on the job market). never did anything harder than weed, it helps me relax, keeps my migraines at bay, etc... like most people. i started smoking daily about 6 weeks ago because the stress was just that bad. well, my amazing luck had it that a recruiter from a hiring agency found me a very promising lead! i've had at LEAST 10 recruiters in these past 6 months say the same spiel and never contact me again so i honestly didn't expect to even be asked in for an interview.

well, as of yesterday, i had received a job offer. the client? an international bank looking to add people to their information security team. i will be a contracted employee if everything goes through, which at the moment, the only things i have left to submit are my identification forms, and a drug test.

with this company i heard it's either piss or oral testing, but because of the position i feel like it'll be a piss test. i've already made arrangements with a friend to take care of that "what if", who will slip me some fake pee. but... i'm super stressed out now.

i'm not really asking for help (advice is welcomed tho lol) but rather to calm my nerves through talking about it. i've heard these hiring agencies tend to do their drug tests on site and get the results quickly (and not exactly accurately), so i'll hopefully be done with this all in 2 days and know for sure by friday my start date. i really want to just smoke one now and vigorously wash my mouth in the event it is an oral swab....
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Rebecca Fottingsore - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:58:55 EST ID:Zy9P6Qor No.30009 Ignore Report Reply
>>30007
Shit won't do literally anything that drinking water wouldn't do. A faint line on a home drug test is a pass. You passed because you were already clean. The overpriced bullshit you drank had no effect.
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Rebecca Bedgemere - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 11:24:29 EST ID:RqsPe8da No.30309 Ignore Report Reply
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Eat poppy seeds, they clear out any drug-related symptoms because of the Papaver somniferum in it. you can take hard drugs and those will clear it for you.
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Cyril Bardspear - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 02:21:44 EST ID:gPtZreQW No.30313 Ignore Report Reply
>worked for me after i hadn't been smoking 2 months

amazing, only two months


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Barnaby Worthingfuck - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:29:00 EST ID:1NUYf9VK No.30012
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Bump While Detox

On Green Tea + MangoPeach Juice rn, whoa brauh the room is stable and there's the faint smell of feces or burning acrylic as the nastiness is cleansed from my body.
Going to go meditate and head out to enjoy the festivities with a clean head. Probably should shower too.

BWD
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Shitting Bumbleford - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 09:35:31 EST ID:vbzqYZ5g No.30232 Ignore Report Reply
Hello guys, i just want to say that i'm more than 5 weeks clean from alcohol and a lot of different kind of drugs. Also i approach the end of my tapering of benzos, i'm only taking 0,5mg alprazolam a day. (I regularly flushed down 15+ mgs of clonazepam with lots of booze). So i'm 5 weeks into this almost clean state (i only take 0,5mg alprazolam, 25mg quetiapine, and smoke 10-15 cigarettes a day) and i can say it really sucks major dicks. BUT: being fucked up like those disgusting
stinky alcoholic hobos you see lying in the subway underpass, sucks even huger blue-veined meter long jolly african-americandicks with AIDS.

I really went down the rabbit hole this time and i almost killed myself. I was locked in a mental hospital, and detoxified. Now i don't want to drink or use recreational drugs(maybe some /psy/ sometimes in the distant future), but i'm feeling like shit. This is not just withdrawal or post-acute withdrawal symptoms, this is the absolute condition of my body and mind, that i didn't realize or feel because the so much narcotic i used to hide the reality.

In my experience(i used synthetic cannabinoids back then on an absolute fiendish junkie scale and then detoxed from it) and according to others, the time when i'll probably feel fine is T+6 months. And i'm only in 5 weeks. Everything is fucked up around me, i need to rebuild my life. I lost my university study, i lost my job, i spent all my money(not a lot at a time, but adding it up it equals the price of a good car), my body is injured at multiple sites, my mind and my emotions are shattered, i got fat, and i feel like i can't work or study or do anything. It really sucks. How to overcome these shits until these 5 months elapse? I can't do sport because my body really hurts on multiple sites, even walking and sitting hurts a lot , but i changed my diet to a healthy one. Also i got back to normal self-maintaining rutines, like bathing, brushing teeth, wearing clean clothes, shaving, cleaning the house, cooking/baking healthy and cheap foods. I guess it takes a lot of time to rebuild this life that i damaged to the point of almost destroying it. It wouldn't be a big deal, i can work for some mont…
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Frederick Fablingfoot - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 05:18:42 EST ID:tDrP8E51 No.30234 Ignore Report Reply
Hi very one, I made a post on hooch about getting carried away drinking on vacation in Japan.....I’ve never had any major addictions but overall have an addiction to being altered in some way or another....thinking it’s time to go completely sober save LSD and maybe some bud on the weekends

The daily pot use and drinking I can tell is not going to be a good thing in the long run....much love wishing all of you well
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Jenny Durrynudge - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:51:03 EST ID:1Pc5zbPG No.30310 Ignore Report Reply
Run out of hash, admittedly I dont smoke much, 1 gram can last weeks, though I was doing codeine too and Naproxen both for pain, CBD ran out of and Im only eating fish, nuts, eggs, some greens, greek yogurt. My anti biotics course just finished. Im trying to be clean for a bit, hadnt fapped for a week and a half but was feeling highly strung and was so horny other night I ordered a fleshlight

On my fridge it says, No nicotine (was doing snuff), caffeine (gives me tmj), alcohol (self explanatory) sugar (trying to slim down)

So Im low carb no drink or drug atm, it kinda just happened, feel like I need to clean my system a bit. Will have a little drink and eat whatever over my bday next weekend, hope that doesnt mess up my hard work. Might have to get some hash (I can get bored) but that'll be all.

feeling kinda clean tbh feels good man :)


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Sidney Breffingbire - Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:59:17 EST ID:ybHRCi9S No.30300
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>been smoking weed since 2011
>have been addicted to it from around 2013 forward
>have wanted to quit since 2014/2015
>life is finally turning around in ways I thought it wouldn't
>started screwing around with Kratom, Hydrocodone, Ativan 2015 forward
>started screwing around with shrooms in 2017 and 2018
>screwed around with a number of other drugs a couple of times over the years (If I didn't mention it, I didn't like it very much)

I've managed to quit all other drugs aside from weed.
The weed I've been smoking the past week is a low quality shake.
I'm fairly certain that my tolerance is the lowest it has ever been - which is making me feel on edge.
Its also making me feel like going and getting some grade A weed... But I won't.

How long does the edge last for weed quitting weed?
Should I try and make the jump into no weed or continue at my current dosage?
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Archie Brookway - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:42:08 EST ID:NouMKNfz No.30303 Ignore Report Reply
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I smoked every single day between 2010-2018 and I had to drop it cold turkey in December for a new job. Literally nothing happened. If you have trouble sleeping then pop some melatonin but the rest is in your head. If you can quit caffeine then you can quit weed. After a couple weeks you won't even think about it.
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Beatrice Ceddledale - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 08:42:31 EST ID:0DfVuopA No.30304 Ignore Report Reply
A few days to a couple weeks typically. Your brain fog will wear off, you'll feel more energetic and mentally alert. Your sleep and eating patterns will even out, if they aren't already pretty good. I think what makes it hard for some people is dealing with anxiety or depression on top of that. Just stay positive if that's the case. Maybe reconnect with some old friends or family. Some people can still tolerate their friends who smoke, some can't. I would at least attempt to be the former unless you consistently crave in to smoking around buddies.
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Charles Hebblelotch - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 14:16:17 EST ID:qTYZOCuv No.30306 Ignore Report Reply
I quit smoking weed 6 months ago and havent smoked it since. It was a hard habit to kick. But, I did it and I'm glad I did. Weed was controlling me and I said enough is enough and quit, cold turkey.


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Oliver Pittworth - Sun, 17 Mar 2019 09:37:59 EST ID:J0uhXA7r No.30292
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Hello, I am currently trying to quit / reduce my clonazepam usage. I am trying a moderate taper but i'm baffled with the symptoms. I mean i cut 0.25 mg (out of 1.25 maintenance) over a week and sleep is better than I expected, even if still not that good. anxiety is in check too. But I'm having terrible headaches and difficulty concentrating, plus I don't really find anything enjoyable (but that might be just the headache ruining things). Aspirin / ibuprofen and similar things have no effect at all. I even verified that it is indeed due to the clonazepam, after i took 0.25 mg during the day (i only take one dose before sleep usually) the headache was gone.
That's baffling because that's not really the symptom I was expecting (all other common symptoms are fine, no aanxiety, decent sleep, etc...) and it is way harder than i imagined for a gradual 0.25 mg cut. I know it's a lot in proportion to the total dose but still it seems like a pretty small cut.

Anyways tl:dr: Klonopin withdrawal headahes, anybody experienced them before? Any way to mitigate them?

Thanks
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Oliver Crubbletark - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 10:06:53 EST ID:ePCV4lqh No.30305 Ignore Report Reply
Yup went from 6mg a day to 0 took me 3 years.
Let me tell you how hard the last small amount is it is no joke.

But about the headaches.



I think might not be withdraw related and if they are I think you might be able to get rid of them by just changing your diet slightly by that I mean a huge spoon full of chili powder (or eating a bunch of spicy ass food when you get a headache??) for its vasodilation properties or caffeine (or drinking some tea/ a coffee) for its vasoconstriction properties.
In your case I think you want to try the chili powder. It has been my go to for a while however my asshole is very upset i eat masses of chili powder because my doctor won't prescribe me a vasodilating drug for headaches when i know that they are the source and I don't know any OTC drugs that are as strong enough vasodilatator. Also check your blood pressure normally and see what your normal blood pressure is for a few days/ weeks. If its lower than than it normally is when you get the headache drink the caffiene if its higher than it normally then eat the spicy shit. if its nearly the same then go to the doctor that first prescribed you benzos and tell him his a greedy jolly african-american for ever giving you benzos long term.

You might not feel anxious and say that but you might be having some weird fuckiery going on from the withdraw where your body is reacting to anxiety that doesn't exist. Having a fight or flight response with no feelings of fight or flight because benzo withdraw I fucking guess.

I am obv no doctor but hating sounding like a smarty pants when I am just telling you what cured my headaches after I learned what causes different kinds of headaches that is all I am basing this off.

In honesty though you sound like a strong enough person. I think just going back up some on your dosage for a little while to stabilize then back down again would be the best idea but. You have plenty of time there is no rush. I only say this because you already know from experience it has worked


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Emma Ninnerbanks - Sun, 17 Mar 2019 20:06:04 EST ID:o5o9TzUP No.30293
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I took benzos for bout 4 years. I've taken klonopin, valium, and lamictal. I've been w/ding for about 8 months now and I'm still suffering my dudes. Brain zaps, digestion issues, throwng up, anxiety from practically everything. I tapered off real nice too. I tapered for like 3 months. Is there anything I can do to stop this super shit feeling and these symptoms? I tried Kratom, but it seemed to just make it worse. Should I try again? I'm willing to try anything. I just wanna go back to normal. How much longer is this shit going to last?
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Nigel Fuzzletut - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 02:00:51 EST ID:J0uhXA7r No.30294 Ignore Report Reply
How much was your average daily dose during those years? A 3 months taper might seem long but if you were taking big boy doses it is not nearly enough. Not that you can do anything about that now... Maybe you could try to find the lowest dose that makes the symptoms bearable and then taper that as slowly as possible.
When quitting benzos patience is the game and you should hold on even if it seems you are not making progress.
Stay strong OP


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Beatrice Grimwill - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 23:56:01 EST ID:TiLbru36 No.30237
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Is there any way to speed up detoxing SSRI's from the body? Specifically Prozac.

I've started taking Vyvanse again and I've been on 40mg of Prozac, and I'm not getting nearly as many of the effects as I used to, and I have 0 tolerance. Apparently there's some sort of liver enzyme bullshit that Prozac is blocking, so tl;dr when I take it I only feel it for like an hour if that, then I just feel like I'm crashing for 8 hours.

Is there any way to get this out of my system faster? I know Prozac lasts fucking forever, but I was thinking maybe if I did cardio or drank a shit ton of water I could clean myself out faster. Been off it for about 2 days
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Cedric Chaddlemetch - Sun, 03 Mar 2019 06:36:30 EST ID:577CB8d1 No.30281 Ignore Report Reply
OP, are you still here? I'm off SSRI's after 7 years taking it but I was on Luvox. Brain zaps are disgusting and on 5th day I was feeling ike a zombie. Microdosing psilocybin mushrooms removed all negative side effects but I didn't have enough shrooms to take them every day for 2 weeks, so I just had to live through it.
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Fanny Greenshit - Sun, 03 Mar 2019 23:22:24 EST ID:yo59Frw9 No.30282 Ignore Report Reply
>>30237
wish i could help, i tried prozac and it kinda instant serotonin head issues,
alcohol may help, clonazepam may help. may want to kcik the Vyvanse
for a while. I think that may a big contributing factor


Benzodiazepines: A story of love, memory, and the pending doom Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Nigel Tootcocke - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:30:42 EST ID:WpuPBHYJ No.30247
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I started in 2016. Following some horrible life events, I placed a clearnet order for etizolam. I should have seen a doctor. I should have heeded the warnings. But after what I went through I couldn’t handle sleeping one hour a night for weeks on end.

No, wait, let’s jump back four years. I dated a girl with a clonazepam script which she seldom used. I would occasionally take 1-2mg. I never had a problem. I had a problem with other drugs, but not benzodiazepines. It is a fact rarely disputed in the medical or harm reduction communities that while occasional benzodiazepine use is safe, long-term use can bring on withdrawals that are “worse than heroin.”

Now, let’s set the record straight. I’ve done enough heroin to develop an addiction. Benzodiazepines are worse. Prolonged use, even at therapeutic doses of benzodiazepines, can result in months of acute withdrawal and years of post-acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS).

From etizolam I found clonazolam. I never really liked it, but I would cut it up onto very tiny doses (well-aware of the dangers of hot spots in vendor-pressed 1mg pills of anything). And after a year or so, I started to wake up unable to see.

Really. Etizolam has a quite short half-life, so taking it and going to bed for 8 hrs is enough to wake up with your hands involuntarily shaking, your eyes misprocessing reality - I don’t know if they were seizures, but they might as well have been. From there, I reached out for help online.

I spent hours each day researching taper schedules, reviewing equivalency charts, methodically planning my mathematical reduction to zero.

And I still failed. It took 12mg diclazepam - the equivalent of 120mg diazepam - to finally stabilize. But everyone in my life could tell, from my past behavior to my new I-just-don’t-give-a-fuck attitude followed by random extreme panic attacks when I made dose reductions.

I did eventually seek out medical help. I couldn’t get past 3mg diclazepam (but I went 12->3 myself!). So I started calling psychiatrists. And rehabs. I had people tell me a taper is crazy, that it just keeps you addicted longer (if a psychiatrist or mental health counselor ever tells you this, review the Ashton Manual and run the other way. Consult a real doctor). Eventually I found someone.
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Sidney Seddleville - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 21:44:12 EST ID:gzZmei8F No.30248 Ignore Report Reply
>>30247

I wish you the best of luck. I've struggled with opiates, benzos and alcohol. I don't know what's wrong with me but my body and mind yearns to be sedated.

I've been "clean" for almost 8 years now but my PAWS have never went away. Although I've achieved what I previously thought was impossible (decent job, amazing wife, own a house lol what the fuck) I find myself still desperately trying to feel normal.

Anyways, sorry I'm going off on a tangent here. You may find some relief in something called BPC-157. It's known as the "healing peptide" and it has some anecdotal evidence it can heal some damage done by past drug abuse. Do some reading on it. It's not a magic substance, but it seems to have helped me just a little bit.
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Fucking Hublinghall - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 19:19:54 EST ID:Dswgp8IR No.30268 Ignore Report Reply
>>30247

I came off a 3 year multiple-bar a day habit summer 2016 and STILL feel weird. A couple weeks ago my fucking back left upper molar CHIPPED because I grind my teeth NON STOP
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Hedda Cravingworth - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 15:15:45 EST ID:6FvdO/Lk No.30271 Ignore Report Reply
holy fuck


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