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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)



BWS 3

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- Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:28:12 EST cXy+on2h No.29922
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Last one stopped bumping.

It's been 2 weeks since I started my suboxone taper. I'm doing good. Just taking everything day by day.

I've been in therapy for 1 month already. I've made quite a bit of progress in such little time. I feel better about myself and am becoming emotionally and mentally stable for once in my life. I'm starting to realize my potential as a person who can achieve anything as long as I can see it. Seeing is achieving. The mind is what you create.
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Edward Dapperditch - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:05:38 EST BxVwTepe No.30492 Reply
It's been over 1 month now since I got done my taper. I'm not going to lie... I've been struggling a bit mentally with wanting it. But, it's getting easier for me as each day goes by. I slipped up a couple times over the past month. But, it's not a total relapse. I'm just keeping myself occupied with the gym and clearing my mind through meditation everyday. I'll be getting a job soon too which will help drastically with keeping temptation out of my mind.

I dont want to get myself involved with any kind of drug ever again including weed. I can function now mentally and emotionally without the need for illegal substances. I'm doing good.
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Hugh Bettingcocke - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:53:05 EST BxVwTepe No.30509 Reply
2 months clean now. I feel like myself again for the first time in years as I'm doing things to better myself. I've been hitting the gym 5 days a week over these past 2 months. The gym is my therapy and I'm so confident in myself now and my self-esteem is getting better and better as time goes by. I don't think about getting high anymore as it's not a big deal to me anymore and honestly id rather be productive and do something to better myself rather than stay high all day.

I'm on the right track now and I'm highly fuking motivated to become the strongest version of myself in and out.
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Charlotte Chattinglud - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:41:04 EST BxVwTepe No.30582 Reply
3 months post suboxone taper. I'm finally working on getting a job and meditating on a daily basis. I do not do any drugs anymore, dont even smoke weed.

I've made up goals I'd like to achieve the rest of this year and into 2020. It's time for a change physically and mentally and spiritually. I cant live like shit anymore. I have to make a change or I'll never get anywhere.

Dependence on trivial downer doses

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- Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:09:47 EST aIeHXNWL No.30579
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I've been stuck in a loop that I don't really know what to think of. For about 5 years I've been taking therapeutic doses of opioids, benzodiazepines, gabapentinoids and/or z-drugs every day to sleep and to avoid mania. I rotate them so that I never bother my opioid receptors for more than 2 days straight, and try avoid benzodiazepines altogether.

Some recent example evenings:
  • 10mg ambien + 5mg kratom
  • 0.3mg buprenorphine + 2 beers
  • 10mg kratom + 1mg alprazolam

I've had sober breaks of up to a month, especially on holidays, but in order to keep a sleeping pattern and a sane mind that guarantee steady income, I feel like I need these drugs. Of course a doctor wouldn't prescribe every downer ever but I also want to rotate because clearly it's easier to take breaks when I'm not used to taking one drug every single day.

The thing is, I can't really travel without e.g. smuggling buprenorphine or choosing Amsterdam so I have kratom available. I can't see my girlfriend 7 days a week, because I need to dose. I want to move abroad but that's no choice with such a deeply rooted dependence.

How do I approach going forward about all this crap? I'm not old enough to pile up and to die in a fortress of drugs.
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David Puzzlefuck - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:16:32 EST UjQ6AzP6 No.30580 Reply
Wow that's a lot of drugs you seem to be on! When you mention doing these to stop mania, do you have Bipolar then? If so, the meds specific to that do tend to keep that fairly under control, meaning the need for other drugs is not really there once you've got a dose and medication right for you to treat the Bipolar. If you still struggle even on the meds, then you most likely have a psychological addiction to drugs - like you feel you need that high to keep functioning. That can only really be treated by working on yourself, with help of drug abuse groups / counselling etc... to help you work out why you feel this way still. It is absolutely possible to keep 'clean' but theres no single answer to help you - each person is different and the underlying cause for using drugs will vary depending on each person's background / lifestyle and brain chemistry. Sounds like you just need to start assessing some of these problems that ended up with you having to get into this cocktail of stuff, and then work on not self-medicating, but using proper clinical help instead. Hope this helps...

What made you get clean

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- Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:19:47 EST dpIO+886 No.30572
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For those who have long term sobriety, what was the catalyst and how did you find the motivation and steps to lead a better life?
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KB - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 13:01:45 EST ZASTjFXm No.30573 Reply
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>>30572 Around 30 years off the lot, heroin being the drug of choice. Righto here we go. At nearly 40 didn't have any cash for my rented room which was paid weekly. Had lost my profession and various businesses over the previous decade and a half due to dope. Whole life was about getting more drugs. Okay, I'm old, nearly 70, so glad one day I said no more. Just stopped, cold turkey in a detox from methadone (30ml daily) plus top ups of smack and codeine. Very painful. Tell you more if you want, let me know. I have other posts on this subject in the opiates discussion maybe 4 or 5 pages in.
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KB - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 13:07:59 EST ZASTjFXm No.30574 Reply
>>30572 ...just had a look, page 4 of opiate discussion replying to post by 'Cold Turkey from 4mg/day suboxone' with the Basketballer Jpeg picture.
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Nell Shakeshaw - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:52:54 EST c8Y5VlxS No.30578 Reply
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I weighed the pros and cons and decided wasting my life drinking all day every day was not the way to go. It's taken a lot of work but I'm feelin pretty good now. Meditation, therapy, group therapy, and proper medication helps a fuckton.

QuickFix, Pain clinic, and Opis oh my

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- Thu, 22 Aug 2019 07:50:28 EST thbTr7Ld No.30575
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Hello, I have a new patient pain clinic appt scheduled in less than a week for serious legitimate reasons, although I've been using an old oxy IR script (different dr/insurance/6 months ago) due to my back pain, and am curious on a few things..

(Also my apologies if this isn't the correct board, figured it might be given the circumstances tho.)

I'm curious if QuickFix synthetic would work for pain mgmt urine tests?
Anyone have any insight on such uses? Or QuickFix or other products in general?

Also, how can I calculate the duration in which oxycodone will stay detectable in my urine based on amount and/or bmi?
(6'3'' 190lbs; only used for the past 2-3 days, but roughly 90-150mg a day)

Does kratom show up on pain management tests? Anyone have experience with pain doctors and kratom? Is it better to avoid mentioning the kratom?

Am I fucked? Chug water and might be okay?
Ty for any/all responses
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Nell Shakeshaw - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:24:28 EST c8Y5VlxS No.30576 Reply
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Depending on the type of pain, I recommend asking about baclofen. It's a muscle relaxer. It makes me really chill and warm and fuzzy and still able to function (except for hard physical labor).

If you just want to know about clean piss, first of all, /detox/. Second, I think opis are out of your system in three or four days. I don't think anybody tests for kratom so you can use that to stave off any withdrawals.
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Nell Shakeshaw - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:45:02 EST c8Y5VlxS No.30577 Reply
>>30576
Oh fuck this is detox. I thought I clicked on b.

Weening off Pot and Dealing With Withdrawal

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 19:39:33 EST IM86YoNJ No.30567
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What is the best way to stop nightly usage and the least painful way to completely detox? Mornings are the worst for me, and I take 20mg of an SSRI daily (why I want to stop)z
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Doris Crobblechurk - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 15:11:41 EST E5tMjZ9O No.30570 Reply
>>30567
With weed, cold turkey is easiest. Get rid of all your remaining weed then just don't buy more. The withdrawals, if you can even call them that, aren't anything bad. Usually I just get really really bored, irritable, and not hungry and I get a little diarrhea and it's hard to sleep for a couple of nights. After about three days everything except the boredom is gone, but that's more of a side effect of sobriety rather than withdrawal.
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Walter Dackletot - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 19:21:29 EST Z6RxDAi2 No.30571 Reply
>>30570
You might have a few fucked up dreams for a while after. That's common but it's not hard. What Doris said will work and you'll be fine.

it's more that if you're used to being high your body has adjusted its homoestasis to compensate. Once you stop smoking you'll be a bit less hungry and your dreams will be vivid and weird an that will stop after a few days or weeks. Continue with your life as before pot aside and it's done.

If you're getting anything else it's not the pot that's the problems.

Xanax WDs- How long can it last?

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- Sun, 18 Aug 2019 13:29:33 EST OvdHNUHp No.30568
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I've tapered from 4mg+ to 0.5mg a day in roughly 4 months.

I've been taking Xanax for about a decade now. Needless to say I feel pretty terrible. I can't sleep even with exercise. I'm afraid I'll have a heart attack due to the constant major anxiety and lack of rest. It never stops. My mood is an absolute mess as well. I feel like crying 24/7.

What also scares me is the idea I've already gone back to normal since it has been 4 months. I've always been awfully anxious so this might be what sober life is going to be from now on.

Just how long can this last? I really hope this is still WDs otherwise I don't know how I'm going to survive this, both physically and emotionally.
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Betsy Manderdock - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 13:46:58 EST qTbkD5B5 No.30569 Reply
For me it was a year at least but I was on them for 10.

Methadone treatment, can I use opiates while on methadone?

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 01:42:39 EST R2loQZ16 No.30557
File: 1565934159217.jpg -(86736B / 84.70KB, 892x1834) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Methadone treatment, can I use opiates while on methadone?
I've been on 110mg of methadone for about 8 months, and I'm wanting to use opiates. If I use other opiates, will I feel any effect at all? How long do I need to stop taking methadone before I can feel any effects?
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Charles Gommermig - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 02:09:17 EST h3k26bsg No.30565 Reply
>>30557
DId you feel methadone before? Isn't it like synethetic morphine of sorts?
If you don't get high on it, doen't mean other opiaods wll not get you high.

It does not nor is intended to make you not get high on opiates if you use them.

even if methadaone never got you high, it's still there. Some go from methadone clinic and do herion by default. As peroson said, it's dangerious to do so, and wouldn't. If you haven't, then why do so. You would almost cetainly feel the other opiate, likely not in a very much good way, it could definately and esailly backfire.

Shit you draw in sobriety

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- Thu, 06 Jun 2019 19:08:08 EST SWi5R6pH No.30405
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So surely there are artists and addicts both out there!

Post the shit you drew in sobriety to cope with being sober.

I got 7 pictures so far, will post more later.

I started doing these "podium drawings" because at my rehab, a dude would always share at a podium.

90 days sober.
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John Crommlebury - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:01:31 EST IFPTLOuA No.30534 Reply
>>30454
is this all your work? it's amazing man
can i follow you anywhere
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Albert Hivingson - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:06:34 EST GiiCgdne No.30555 Reply
hey these are all pretty good OP
stay strong!

1,4-butanediol taper

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- Mon, 12 Aug 2019 06:40:38 EST GawcegWN No.30554
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On a 1,4-butanediol detox. Have phenibut, Lyrica, and enough 1,4-butanediol to taper. Don't want to end up in the hospital. Will ask doctor for baclofen as a last resort. Can't really tell when the BDO is starting to wear off other than the stinging pains I get as a reminder that my blood pressure is spiking. How do I swing this?

SSRI DETOX

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- Thu, 08 Nov 2018 23:56:01 EST TiLbru36 No.30237
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Is there any way to speed up detoxing SSRI's from the body? Specifically Prozac.

I've started taking Vyvanse again and I've been on 40mg of Prozac, and I'm not getting nearly as many of the effects as I used to, and I have 0 tolerance. Apparently there's some sort of liver enzyme bullshit that Prozac is blocking, so tl;dr when I take it I only feel it for like an hour if that, then I just feel like I'm crashing for 8 hours.

Is there any way to get this out of my system faster? I know Prozac lasts fucking forever, but I was thinking maybe if I did cardio or drank a shit ton of water I could clean myself out faster. Been off it for about 2 days
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Fanny Greenshit - Sun, 03 Mar 2019 23:22:24 EST yo59Frw9 No.30282 Reply
>>30237
wish i could help, i tried prozac and it kinda instant serotonin head issues,
alcohol may help, clonazepam may help. may want to kcik the Vyvanse
for a while. I think that may a big contributing factor
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dr. m - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:18:51 EST hrseF5HX No.30533 Reply
>>30237

Nah dude. Prozac takes 5 days for half of it to leave your system, and then the half that breaks down takes another 7-15 days for half of THAT to leave your system. I was able to cold Turkey 20mg/day of Prozac with zero withdrawal. Now I only take 20mg prozac once a week and it works much better for me.

Alcohol Abstinence Thread

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- Tue, 22 Aug 2017 07:47:47 EST 5nT9NWqY No.29436
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Greetings /detox/.

After really admitting to myself how badly my alcohol addiction was affecting other aspects of my life, I have made a serious decision to stop usage for a while. I am going to document my journey in this thread to amuse the bored, encourage those who may be dealing with similar problems, and to keep myself focused and honest. If I slip up I will be honest as well.

Little background:
>Duration of alcoholism: 8 years
>Frequency of consumption: 5-7 days per week with no period of abstinence longer than 2 days
>Amount consumed per day: ~7oz of ethanol in an evening
>Affected aspects of life: work, school, relationships, hobbies, mental and physical health

I am currently on my fourth day with no alcohol and I am already seeing and feeling notable improvements in my body and mind. I will go over how each day felt.

>First 24 Hours
By far the worst. Not only from the withdrawals, but the knowledge that booze is not coming any time soon. Sweating, shaking hands, lack of appetite, insomnia, flushed skin, increased blood pressure, irritability, dark and disturbing dreams when sleep comes in fits

>24-48 Hours
The dandruff I started to notice over the past couple of months already looks almost completely cleared up, amazingly, as well as a few pimples on my face. Bloating of abdomen and general system-wide inflammation decreased. Belly size shrunk, clothes fitting looser. Appetite growing. Sleeping still difficult, but less sweating. Occasional faint auditory hallucinations.

>48-72 Hours
Getting more bearable. Starting to feel a tiny glimmer of hope that I can rise out of the hole I have dug. Shits are solid and don't smell sickly sweet. Further decrease in bloating and inflammation. Since digestive system has finally caught a break from continuous processing of toxic poison sludge (I mostly drink 40's containing HFCS), my appetite is extremely strong. Mind fog starting to lift. Almost scared at the resurgent cognition after removing CNS depressant. Like a muffled voice that can finally speak freely, my thoughts are racing almost faster than I can keep up.

>72-96 Hours
This is where I am now. Can't sleep tonight, I'll just pull an all-nighter and crash tomorrow night. After laying in bed awake for a few hours I decided to make this thread. My digestive system feels wonderful. You don't know how nice a solid poop is until you are a truly depraved alcoholic. My mind feels clear. I am looking forward to a nice big nutritious breakfast tomorrow since I won't be hungover and bloated and nibbling on toast. I am no longer perspiring abnormally, and the shakes in my hands are almost 100% gone, I can hold them very still like I used to.


I won't blog this shit every day, but every few days I'll update my detox thread for my own viewing later. Anyone has comments/questions, toss 'em in the thread.
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Henry Crushsin - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:29:12 EST zhgojll7 No.30512 Reply
>>29436

Nowhere near as long as you but I stopped after too much a few months ago and haven't looked back. Recently took up running too.. just a few days a week but I go out and try and stay out for an hour.. I'll stop to breathe or walk some distance and just sweat and sweat... its only added to the positive mental effects I achieved through stopping drinking. I feel much smarter and able to handle life since taking it up
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Henry Crushsin - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:33:28 EST zhgojll7 No.30513 Reply
>>30510
Thats a good idea actually
Just remember every time you try to stop. It builds up momentum. If you fail and drink you have more success the more times you try... it took me many times quitting to get it done for a significant period of time, but I'm glad I never gave up on trying.
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Frederick Buzzhall - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 05:55:25 EST WCBgob4/ No.30521 Reply
>>30510
>but when i know i am going to struggle with alcohol on a night, i trick my brain
>by hijacking my booze routine. i go down to the local gas station where i
>usually get booze, but instead i get a coffee/hot chocolate mixed 50/50 and
>a little snack or a sandwich.

That is a perfect way to change your routine, working it into another working routine.
Will go to a liquor store and think, I didn't drink last night, surely I can live another night without. Or when I usually get alcohol just by default, even late, and just think,
if I wait another hour, it will be too late to get some. Wake up in the AM and maybe think, that was definately a good move by not buying.

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