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What to do while you are without weed by Rebecca Trotshaw - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 08:28:17 EST ID:L7grIRDM No.30008 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi all! What to eat when have short periods without weed? How to make yourself non-nervous? I mean for example what about the vitamin C while periods withoud pots?
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Emma Moblingcocke - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 00:16:46 EST ID:Zy9P6Qor No.30010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Do the same shit you've always done. It will take time and patience but you'll learn to enjoy those things sober again. You'll be able to appreciate them for what they are, rather than just treating them as an excuse to get high.

That's what I did. It really made me remember WHY I love some of the things I do. They're still fun without weed.
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Simon Biblingpack - Thu, 16 Aug 2018 08:16:35 EST ID:lV3U9djZ No.30094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When I stopped my 7 year smokeweederryday-ruotine couple of years ago one thing that really helped to cope was exercise. Go to walk, hit the gym or do something that will make your natural feel good substances activate. It took me a month without weed to start to enjoy the activities I did while high to be fun but it will come back.

I had to take occasional benzos at the beginning to be able to sleep and not feel panicky but try to avoid that if it is not absolutely nescessary. If you had that kind of serious problems like I did you should also get yourself in psychotherapy or other kind of professional help. Meditation also helps to reduce the nervousnes.

i think that what defines substance abuse is not the drug or even the quantity you are taking it. It's the relationship you have for that/those substances. If you can't feel good without getting high and that is the thing you are constantly waiting...you probably have one. I never dealt with problems in my childhood and that caused me the find constantly escape from everything (and weed helped with that).

I believe in you.Godspeed!


Alcohol Abstinence Thread by Caroline Greenridge - Tue, 22 Aug 2017 07:47:47 EST ID:5nT9NWqY No.29436 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Greetings /detox/.

After really admitting to myself how badly my alcohol addiction was affecting other aspects of my life, I have made a serious decision to stop usage for a while. I am going to document my journey in this thread to amuse the bored, encourage those who may be dealing with similar problems, and to keep myself focused and honest. If I slip up I will be honest as well.

Little background:
>Duration of alcoholism: 8 years
>Frequency of consumption: 5-7 days per week with no period of abstinence longer than 2 days
>Amount consumed per day: ~7oz of ethanol in an evening
>Affected aspects of life: work, school, relationships, hobbies, mental and physical health

I am currently on my fourth day with no alcohol and I am already seeing and feeling notable improvements in my body and mind. I will go over how each day felt.

>First 24 Hours
By far the worst. Not only from the withdrawals, but the knowledge that booze is not coming any time soon. Sweating, shaking hands, lack of appetite, insomnia, flushed skin, increased blood pressure, irritability, dark and disturbing dreams when sleep comes in fits
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Clara Pittfield - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 06:21:55 EST ID:0q7uyVKP No.30058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30024
If you drink at the same time, things aren't that bad. Or as bad as it could be.

If two days in not drinking, go for 5. Chomp little pieces of benzo if you start feeling weird.

5 days is good, 7 is better. 10 should feel direction.

Keep on keepin on. I havent drank for more like a month. Or who knows.
I mean heavy drinking for won't say how long but a long time and a lot of booze and $$$
Feel better than ever.
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Beatrice Hoffingmidge - Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:07:54 EST ID:tlKfe1RT No.30066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30024
I think it must be bacteria in your gut. They say that shit can influence people's personalities and make them crave certain foods. The alcohol feeds yeast or something that literally mind controls you into craving booze. Try just eating nothing but meat and yogurt and drinking nothing but water and kefir for a month and see if it helps.
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Molly Siggleway - Sun, 29 Jul 2018 17:35:44 EST ID:2X1ismwx No.30068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30024
it’s difficult because you’ve formed a strong habit with a rewarding feeling. you have to start doing something else before that time comes and the craving kicks in.
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Eliza Dridgehall - Sun, 05 Aug 2018 20:31:55 EST ID:FyjPNss8 No.30077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30066
>I think it must be bacteria in your gut.
Interesting hypothesis. Maybe it plays a minor role. But I think it's obvious most of it is in the brain. Look up the sinclair method.
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Jenny Gabberman - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 00:47:19 EST ID:4WKLExzE No.30093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30077

it plays a much bigger role than you realize, look into the enteric nervous system aka the "little brain"; also gut flora are being considered by some medical experts to be an actual organ system in and of itself


BWS 3 by James Siffingwill - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:28:12 EST ID:cXy+on2h No.29922 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Last one stopped bumping.

It's been 2 weeks since I started my suboxone taper. I'm doing good. Just taking everything day by day.

I've been in therapy for 1 month already. I've made quite a bit of progress in such little time. I feel better about myself and am becoming emotionally and mentally stable for once in my life. I'm starting to realize my potential as a person who can achieve anything as long as I can see it. Seeing is achieving. The mind is what you create.
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Ian Smallville - Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:57:01 EST ID:E5tMjZ9O No.30070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30069
At least he has the right attitude. You've gotta believe this time can be different or else you'll never get anywhere.
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Charlotte Sollybatch - Mon, 30 Jul 2018 22:19:47 EST ID:ts+QUBMm No.30071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30070
Most people trying to get clean have great attitudes. And then it's time to say goodbye to their drug of choice, actually say goodbye to it, and they relapse, or pick something else up, or whatever. No one wants him to fail, I want him to stay sober and kick his habit
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Fuck Nullerway - Mon, 30 Jul 2018 23:24:10 EST ID:cXy+on2h No.30072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the guy is right though. I (i am OP) have to stop acting like a douchebag and just do it and stop talking like everything is okay when it hasnt been for the past couple months. i relapsed a week away from being done with my taper because i got into a very heated argument with a family member and ive been down about it. i suffer from depression, anxiety, bi polar disorder and schizophrenia. so, its a lot harder for me to keep my emotions in check and being able to feel "balanced". lately things have sucked a bit. but, i started going to the gym again which is one of the best decisions ive made for myself in quite a while. im going to be taking prep classes in the fall for my GED and i will pass the test. starting to look for a job. i hope the gym i go to has job openings. these are the reasons why i HAVE to get clean. i got stuff going for me now in my life and i cannot keep fucking up and relapsing. its going to be hard for me. but, im going to give it my best.
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Lydia Goodway - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:31:19 EST ID:ts+QUBMm No.30091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30062
108 days off of opiates. Nothing new to report, still drinking, it's been about a week since i threw down mighty. Hope you guys are doing okay. bws
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Lydia Goodway - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:33:59 EST ID:ts+QUBMm No.30092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30091
113*, still count like I'm under the influence.


THC(?) induced psychosis recovery by Nigel Snoddale - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:31:35 EST ID:GTv49qUp No.29947 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Four months ago, I was under some stress and was smoking marijuana weekly, despite it giving me panic attacks. I was foolish and uninformed, and I thought that the each joint would lessen the effects of the previous ones.

Then I smoked two joints in succession in a public place. This was followed by crippling panic attacks for two weeks straight, followed by two months of anxiety.

Now, I'd never been the anxious type. Completely calm, stable, pragmatic, emotionless even. I can/could deal with stress. No history of anything similar in either me or my family. The weed single-handedly triggered all this. Some dormant brain reaction, lurking, waiting for me to be fucking stupid enough to allow it to surface again and again, until it finally takes over completely.

I'd never dealt with anything even remotely similar, so it fucked me up. I felt like a toddler getting blindsided with a tire iron. In the first two weeks, during the panic, I completely lost touch with my old self, while in the following months I was trying to scramble my personality back together. Disorganized, strange thoughts, depersonalization, etc. It still feels like my IQ's dropped by 10 points.

I found this study about people recovering from what I'd experienced - substance-induced psychosis with no prior diagnosis of a psychotic illness. The outcomes weren't... hopeful:

>For this study, the investigators reviewed the long-term outcomes of all persons who received a diagnosis of substance-induced psychosis between 1994 and 2014 and had no prior diagnosis of a psychotic illness — a group of over 6,700 people. The diagnosis of drug-induced psychosis required symptoms lasting at least 48 hours — linked to intoxication with or withdrawal from the drug.

>Over a twenty-year follow-up period, about 41 percent of those who had a psychotic reaction to marijuana developed schizophrenia, and 47 percent developed either schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. About half of those who developed schizophrenia did so within 3.1 years, and half of those who developed bipolar disorder did so within 4.4 years.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/demystifying-psychiatry/201801/acute-marijuana-induced-psychosis-may-predict-future-illness
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Nigel Snoddale - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:35:48 EST ID:GTv49qUp No.29948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, I'm not sure if this is the proper board for this. Would I get better answers on /weed/?
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Hamilton Clebbleham - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 14:34:25 EST ID:Tkla8QZl No.30013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29948
you're on the right(est) board you can get. /weed/ will just be in denial and ridicule you for it.
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Barnaby Hugglestock - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:33:59 EST ID:J1eaXtK+ No.30047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Same thing happened to me. Treat the anxiety and stay away from weed. Try some benzos or alcohol (obviously not together) to deal with the physical effects from the anxiety, try meditation or exercise, and/or see a professional about your anxiety.
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Hannah Brirringnag - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 20:13:56 EST ID:fna5DMYG No.30090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29947
I have BPD and I was mentally stable until the age of around 16 or 17. Started smoking weed at 11 and heavy dxm use through highschool plus all the other drugs I put into my body, years laterI'm doing much better, but I have to manage my mental health strenuously, bedtime eating healthy meditation prayer the whole works. Weed makes me paranoid and anxous now, also get bad anxiety for small things and sometime for no reason at all.... i always thought it was the dxm but looks like weed played a part too


cigarettes by Nicholas Pittfuck - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:54:25 EST ID:G1aVshVp No.29965 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you guys deal with the post smoking lack of attention, anxiety, depression, and boredom post smoking? After 5 months without smoking I realized I still felt like shit. Didn't feel as physically poisoned and sickly as being a chainsmoker, but still. Is this normal? It feels like a low grade version of how I've heard kicking heroin described. It's bad enough I'm almost considering going back just to feel more with it and productive again.
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Thomas Demmlelack - Fri, 22 Jun 2018 00:41:28 EST ID:osOBw04Q No.29968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29965
I started smoking after quitting, but when I did quit it was basically I have to quit. A 7 day goal, 3 days 4 days I said well I'm here. I quit and reinforced this with strenuous exercise. Well kinda. It just got better day after day. Stopped for years. Started again, said, I don't need this. Stopped. Smoking for me caused more anxiety, don't have a smoke, anxiety, smoke anxiety. Just when you feel like smoking, go for a long walk or whatever instead. Good for the head.
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Augustus Pogglecocke - Sat, 30 Jun 2018 02:16:50 EST ID:oavMyfRd No.29991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just quit smoking and I feel great, but yeah, still distracted, kinda not super sharp feeling. I haven't smoked weed in a bit either, but I might be in a more 420 friendly situation in the future, potentially. It could either be a more grounding, creative, spiritual thing, or a more destabilizing thing.... I'm also worried it would drop my inhibition and I would smoke cigs again.
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Jenny Blackspear - Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:33:04 EST ID:du3F/EpA No.30088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I literally don't know how people can smoke when you know how it fucks up your body. Like, okay you maybe you don't want kids, smell really fucking bad, literally destroy your lungs which makes you out of breath after running for 10 seconds, die 10 years earlier than the average person, and risk a huge chance of getting a serious illness. And probably much more. Like dude spend that money on fucking Yu-Gi-Oh cards or someshit
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John Clusslefoot - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:49:10 EST ID:LPU00OTd No.30089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30088
you are stupid, its an addiction, ever heard of it?


Hey by Samuel Fanwill - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:27:32 EST ID:Oz9cRT8I No.29863 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's going to be OK. Let go and let God. Do you have a higher power in your life yet? It can be anything. Alcoholism is a spiritual disease man. Please turn to page 153 of the Big Book ($25 by the coffee table that is one of the traditions we don't take donations). This completes my 240 hours of community service. I'm out of this bitch. Got to go and pay $3000 to get this fucking interlock removed.
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Fucking Branningforth - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:35:43 EST ID:bTvU4UAH No.30081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30046
You got clean day one. Then you spent 29 years addicted to a phoney church. Sad.
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Fucking Branningforth - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:36:19 EST ID:bTvU4UAH No.30082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30056
Exactly one is called na and one is called aa. That's the main difference
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Sophie Sedgetedging - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 22:51:27 EST ID:GjQtgtw2 No.30085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>be me 5 years ago
>completely addicted to heroin, benzos, cocaine, weed etc.
>get intervention'd and sent to rehab in a different state
>get sober and move into a halfway house and drink the kool aid so to speak
>years later
>done the steps, sponsored, spoke at meetings whole nine yards
>start becoming honest with myself at what was really going on
>yes i was helped and had helped others but the majority of the people in the rooms i didn't like
>i had to be around them near daily
>i had to pretend to be someone im not to go along with them
>I had to watch person after person be the most hypocritical scumbags and fuck people over and use their "disease" as a valid excuse
>i had to ignore the endless ego-stroking and humble bragging
>i had to hear really depressing, hopeless, fucked up life stories constantly which left me feeling worse after awhile
>I had to believe that ANY return to ANY substance use of any kind whatsoever whether it be a single dose of MDMA at a music festival in spain or a joint at home in the evening after a long day at work would result in the complete destruction of my life and my eventual death
>basically started to feel like this was all bullshit
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Graham Shittingfoot - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 12:47:35 EST ID:bTvU4UAH No.30086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30085
Sounds like me man. I felt That massive dissonance of lying to myself too. After two years (God damnit) a guy just exploded on a few friends of mine calling em cocksuckers anything you can think of, during the meeting, so I stand up and tell him to shut the fuck up. And the room tells me that it's his turn to talk still. So I said oh ya you're all fucked fuck you all. And I left and that was that,

Thanks to that piece of shit old timer who woke me up and saved my life from aa.
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Ebenezer Dimmlestock - Wed, 08 Aug 2018 14:21:52 EST ID:uT9d9Xdu No.30087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
10/10 thread til it got serious


Treatment Center fucking me around by Graham Trotstock - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 23:57:50 EST ID:F1UDU73h No.30036 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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WOW, so this is what happened to me today, I show up to my treatment center after work, wasn't able to go home and shower and get the weed smell off my person. My Current Counselor tells me that I won't be allowed to join todays class because it's "triggering" to people who are recovering. I try to Compromise and rush over to the Krogers next door to buy a can of spray deodorant so I don't smell like cannabis. After doing this and spraying myself with about half the fucking can and going in to see if I wasn't smelling like ganja anymore, she tells me she'll be able to let me participate. I go outside. NOT EVEN FIVE MINUTES GOES PAST AND SHE RETRACTS HER STATEMENT. I now have a second strike against me and technically because of this I violated the contract I signed with her because I accidentally missed a UA one sunday because of confusion on cutoff time. BECAUSE OF THIS I RISK GOING TO JAIL AND NOT BEING ABLE TO COMPLETE MY DIVERSION. I'm fucking pissed, and I feel like she is unjustly discriminating against me because of my job in the cannabis industry. I understand that it may trigger some people, but I did more than enough to try and accomodate this pompous fat cunt.

I plan on calling the director tommorow and Telling my side of the story, and if she doesn't want to work with me, then I may look into getting a lawyer and am thinking i might need to switch treatment centers. What do you guys think?
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Martha Dribberstock - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:31:05 EST ID:J1eaXtK+ No.30049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Go to a different treatment place. Group therapy shit is bogus and they usually do that because individualized treatment is much more time consuming and they want to make as much money by "helping" as many people as possible. You prolly have enough of your own problems to deal with, it's not your problem to worry about other people.
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Frederick Packleshit - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:28:26 EST ID:fa1nAfW1 No.30050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hold on, let me try to summarize this:

>Show up for drug treatment counseling smelling like drugs

>Counselor tells me that people that are in recovery from drugs don't want to be around the smell of drugs

>I don't do thorough research and didn't show up for a UA that is a condition of my contract

>I'm angry and I'm going to get a lawyer because I'm an idiot
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Charlotte Tootwell - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:50:25 EST ID:cXy+on2h No.30051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30036
Wow what a cunt. Sounds like you're being discriminated and in your case I'd do the same thing and talk with the director.

But, all methadone clinics are filled with staff there who truly don't give a fuck about the recovering addicts and are assholes. I was in a clinic for two years. Place was a fucking joke. So I know how you feel.
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Fucking Branningforth - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:40:46 EST ID:bTvU4UAH No.30083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like how they call it a class. The recovery industry is such a gigantic scam it's insane.
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Fucking Branningforth - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:42:22 EST ID:bTvU4UAH No.30084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30050
He has a legal job working with drugs. His counsellor and you should jump off a building together


Weed: Degenerate shit for soyim by Chad - Sat, 30 Jun 2018 20:52:47 EST ID:kDE2sVDK No.30000 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Weed raises Estrogen levels:
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
>http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

Weed Smokers Have More Violent Convictions:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26961342
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Angus Bipperford - Sun, 01 Jul 2018 09:48:53 EST ID:cXy+on2h No.30004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Roll bread
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Sidney Crungercocke - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:31:07 EST ID:G1aVshVp No.30005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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nb
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Sidney Wedgeson - Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:55:55 EST ID:faFEhEXC No.30063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I agree weed sucks but far-right memes are just as damaging to your brain IMO.
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Beatrice Hoffingmidge - Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:03:20 EST ID:tlKfe1RT No.30065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got my testosterone tested because I thought I might be low test because I'm a generally meek and diffident person with lots of anxiety and I can't grow a beard in my mid 20's, but it turns out my test is over 1000 which is higher than normal and I smoke hella weed. Don't buy into this testosterone determines personality crap because it's not true.
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George Shittingwell - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:30:43 EST ID:GjQtgtw2 No.30078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30065
This, on the flip side I've known someone who was an aggressive, hyper-masculine right-winger who was kinda jacked (physically) and he confided in me that he had to get testosterone supplements in his 20s cause he had genetically inherited low -t and his hair was falling out.


BWD by Barnaby Worthingfuck - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:29:00 EST ID:1NUYf9VK No.30012 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Bump While Detox

On Green Tea + MangoPeach Juice rn, whoa brauh the room is stable and there's the faint smell of feces or burning acrylic as the nastiness is cleansed from my body.
Going to go meditate and head out to enjoy the festivities with a clean head. Probably should shower too.

BWD
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Reuben Grimwater - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 01:22:12 EST ID:6FvdO/Lk No.30015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
day 2 no beer, last extended break I took was last July for about 4 weeks and then I started drinking again

I actually feel pretty o.k. at the moment and im trying to get rid of cravings by smoking weed, i was drinking like 6-8 5% beers a night and dont really feel any withdrawal. I've been smoking weed and drinking massive amounts of water and its been working pretty good.

im exhausted all the time because my sleep is all jacked up from booze so I have to cut back, also im getting fat
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BwD - Thu, 12 Jul 2018 22:58:53 EST ID:sOYAtUOs No.30032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Trying to quit smoking and poly substance abuse. Had one cigarette today and one yesterday. Trying to vape instead. No weed today, no alcohol, no nothing except that, psych meds, and fewd.
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Fanny Fenkinlock - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:27:01 EST ID:tmdaHvJY No.30055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30012
I stupidly went and binged heroin IV for a week after being clean from a lengthy habit for over a year... This detox is nowhere near as bad but the restless legs is killer. Last time I didn't sleep at all for 4 days with full blown WD because of it. Easily the worst part of WD after the constipation hell clears up.

I'd say the reason it's so bad is that you're exhausted to the point where normally you would instantly fall asleep but you're prohibited from doing so. It is true torture.

What are other opinions on the worst of opiate WD?
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Wesley Clebbermun - Sat, 04 Aug 2018 02:19:34 EST ID:FRAuO5w7 No.30073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Day 178 of sobriety from anything harder than coffee. Day 0 was a meth comedown after 11 years of living constantly high on weed, hooch and dis's. Just the last 4 years had the inclusion of ice. The best thing of being out is not having hangovers anymore. Oh, and having energy to work-out and going outdoors again. Great life so far.
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Nell Chocklelock - Sat, 04 Aug 2018 18:24:39 EST ID:hz0sYZtr No.30076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30055
Firstly, are you me? I was sober for 2 years, relapsed 3 weeks ago, used off and on. 14 days ago I got a vivitrol shot. You may have seen my threads around. I tried incredibly hard to get high. I used every single day for the last 8-9 days... while on vivitrol. I did get some negligible effects from the drugs, but it was mostly a waste. Vivitrol blocks the important mu receptor completely (euphoria and analgesia) but does a poor job of blocking some of the less important receptors. So I’m withdrawing from the other receptors. I doubt there are many people who have gone through this incredibly strange withdrawal. I have a large amount of Xanax, gabapentin, bupropion, but no clonidine. I’m at 32 hours since last using. I’ll say that this WD isn’t very bad. Minor aches, no leg kicks, but a very cloudy head and lots of yawning. Doubt I’ll sleep well tonight unless I drug myself unconscious. I have to go back to my desk job on Monday.

To answer your question regarding worst withdrawal, mine was from oxycodone. I was using 400-800mg/day for about a month. I didn’t understand opiates or withdrawal at the time. I used at that level for 3 straight months, never experiencing discomfort or withdrawal. When I decided I should stop, I went through the worst hell imaginable. I was freezing while dripping sweat. I was laying in bed acting as though I was peddling a bicycle as fast as I could while wildly flaming my arms and convulsing. I was cycling between suicidal thoughts, self pity, anger, fear, and frustration rapidly. I would dry heave and run to the bathroom and continue my flailing and moaning while trying to sit still in the toilet. Every hour or so I would run to the shower and shower in incredibly hot water. I ended up calling my dealer the next day to get more pills, and soon after, went to detox where they helped me tremendously coming off of that habit. So that is the story of my worst. I’ve kicked heroin a couple times, but pretty minor habits.

Lastly, I’m a bit surprised that a 1 week binge has left you in such a bad place. Sorry you’re going through that, man. I really hope it’s short lived and passes quickly. Hang in there bud.


for anyone recovering from a dissociative addiction by Alice Hollynare - Fri, 01 Jun 2018 12:19:07 EST ID:pHsWgtaT No.29917 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>on a six month break from heavy ketamine and pcp use
>get the urge to dissociate again and buy four bottles of dxm syrup on a whim
>sit infront of the bottles at my computer for hours contemplating whether it's a good idea
>try to justify it with its antidepressant effects but ended up pouring them down my sink
>immediately feel like a weight's been lifted off my shoulders and get a sudden surge of energy and optimism

obviously I can't speak on behalf of anyone except myself but I think that not succumbing to the allure of dissos if you're trying to stay clean has a better antidepressant effect than a weeklong ketamine infusion session

hang in there
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Augustus Cigglechot - Mon, 04 Jun 2018 09:03:10 EST ID:G2iYEKXR No.29929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29920
Right after I have made the post, I regretted using the word permanent instead of lasting.

I actually feel the same way about music. It just doesn't click as much with me anymore. I was using amphetamines pretty regularly as well, and am glad to be off it.

Do you plan to return to diss? If so, how long do you think you will space out your trips?

I know I still will diss eventually but currently, I want to stabilize my mind and get my stuff together
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Topper - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 20:41:10 EST ID:pFLwwrrZ No.29952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where in the fuck are you getting PCP these days or are you talking about 3-meo? I haven't been able to find true sherm in a decade or so. I'm not actually sourcing but just a general idea.
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Lillian Sablingback - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:39:45 EST ID:wszRbaUe No.29961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP this post actually helped me a lot, I had just bought some Delysm the other day and was considering doing it but then I saw this post, thanks.
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Thomas Demmlelack - Fri, 22 Jun 2018 00:29:23 EST ID:osOBw04Q No.29967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29961
Our grocery story every now and then has sales on the large bottles, just dxm I guess. I like taking a tablespoon or two just as a mind adjuster. Think clearly,
interested in stuff more. $2.25? compared to $16 #18 $22? dollars. I like a tablespoon or two of codeine syrup as well. For pain, happy as a clam. A bit more, yea, it's called lean for a reason it would seem.
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Sidney Wedgeson - Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:01:04 EST ID:faFEhEXC No.30064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29919
I felt this way after several years of DXM binges and constant weed smoking. But over time, my mind is way clearer. The only symptom that remains of my abuse is HPPD. That shit never goes away.


How do you get an elephant to stop doing drugs? by Ian Pittshaw - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 16:02:11 EST ID:EPbPLU/j No.30038 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Asking for an endangered friend. How do you let an elephant know that you care about them? What kind of therapy is available to elephants?
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Sophie Drorrykod - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 23:50:27 EST ID:LV0XELdd No.30042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you da man elephantguy


Etiz withdrawal fuckup by Sophia !0R/XnN1IK. - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 23:06:48 EST ID:H5zvl/ea No.30035 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Slipped up on my taper. Have been doing 2mg Etizolam a day, 1 in the morning, 1 at night, and trying to minimise (as much..or, little as possible, haha.. Benzo w/d is hell, even when you're just cutting down.
Anyway. I took my 1mg this morning, had a fucked day, and came home with a 6 pack and took 4mg Etiz with my beers. Will not redose again tonight, but shit, how bad did I fuck up my tolerance and inevitable w/d symptoms? I'm fucking terrified.
My only options now are to go to a free clinic. I have no insurance. I could ask for antidepressants to help ease benzo withdrawal symptoms, but does that work?
I withdrew before and wanted to crash my car into a tree or die in my sleep and just never wake up, because the feelings when I wake up are the most unbearable .
Any pharmaceuticals or other substances help get you off the benzo roller coaster? I've been an overindulgent user for years and it's fried my brain. Minor benz use, once a week or so and no blackout moments is safer than where I am. I respect anyone who can control themselves like that over this deadly addiction.
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Charlotte Hobblewell - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:39:53 EST ID:JeCbk9Tw No.30039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My plan for getting off etiz is to just taper down, and smoke mad chron. Probably have less a benzo tolerance than you though
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Thomas Drabbleford - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:55:10 EST ID:3CI0Vaty No.30040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30035
just go back to your routine without thinking much of it. its not great but your still going to be fine on your 1mg twice a day. dont go over that. dont let it happen again. unless your on a very limited supply it wont be a major setback. just try to forget about it.


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