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How long until my mind clears up? by Betsy Turveyman - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 03:30:29 EST ID:Ep/9NLV9 No.28831 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Back story: Been smoking for 12 years, mostly daily with a few short breaks. Started at 16, now 28. Quit at new years (not a resolution, planned it months beforehand) and not going to smoke at all for three months at least. Last smoke was NYE and I smoked about 15-20g total in december.

I have no problem at all with staying off weed as planned but I still feel like my mind is kind of dull and I don't have any energy or motivation/dedication in life. Does this get better? I've been entirely clean for 20 days now, haven't had alcohol more than two times. I eat clean and work out three times a week. But still I just sit at home bored browsing the web, unmotivated to do anything. Might have been naive of me to think that I'd get full of motivation and energy from just not smoking weed but I still hoped for it to get a bit better.

BWS by Sophie Cerringchure - Fri, 19 Apr 2013 03:08:25 EST ID:cLmtTVud No.20893 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Bump while sober. Didn't see any thread of this kind in here and thought it could be of some help for those trying to quit.

I'm not quitting but just taking a pause from weed. Haven't really smoked in 10 days (not counting those 4 hits I tooks from a friends spliff at a party while drunk)

>tell your reasons and how long it's been.

I just want weed to be more like a treat and not a everyday normal thing. After the pose I'm gonna lower my smoking to about once or twice a week.

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Shitting Snodstock - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:51:54 EST ID:mIKkxqsT No.28812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I plan to quit drinking alcohol and cut back quite a bit. In the last two years the longest I went in between drinking was 3 days, and when I drink I drink until I pass out.

The reason I need to quit is because I'm afraid down the road I'll end up really dependent on alcohol and it will ruin my relationships with family, my girlfriend, job, and im in college now so I don't want it to ruin that either.

Currently feeling very bored, with the low hum of anxiety in the back of my mind. I crave alcohol like I'm horny for sex or something. I can't taper off because once I start drinking its very hard to stop.

I hope this week goes well and that my recovery isn't horrible. At least I have weed
Skizzlepuss !dO744cvTW. - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:02:43 EST ID:E5goLQFH No.28818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Been a month since I've done anything.
I have an interview tomorrow, if all goes well I'm gonna buy a beer in celebration.
Bump for great success.
Clara Hinninghig - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:32:45 EST ID:5+Wy/d8w No.28820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Month and 8 days!! BWS baby
Hamilton Cladgefut - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:32:10 EST ID:D7BmddjS No.28821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I only lasted ten days until I ran out of subs. Sucks that I had to resort to methadone again. Only taking 10mg a day. Buying subs tonight and getting what count I exactly want. Tomorrow I go back on this

Charlotte Wesslefack - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:38:36 EST ID:j8WMZzHs No.28830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
45 days off herion, meth, benzos, coke, alcohol , and weed. This has been the hardest thing I have ever done but my minds finnally returning and I'm starting to feel great again. For anyone thinking of quiting because you lost your self phisicly and mentally like me - it does get better.

HPPD (cross post from /psy/) by Phineas Biblinghall - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:36:16 EST ID:eiO5M3eG No.28822 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how do you guys deal with it? I'm talking about that feeling of still being partly in hyperspace, occassionally debilitating depersonalization and extreme anxiety about shit that I didn't get anxious about before. I feel like I'm always on the verge of ego death and it's very difficult to be around people for long periods of time. I've been tripping for quite awhile but recently increased the frequency to once a week for about 2 months. I was breaking through for each one of these trips. The last trip was particularly shattering (although the lowest dose, go figure), and left me with little control over my mind, although I feel like the frequency that I was tripping contributed to the breakdown, the trip was trying to lock me out of hyperspace but I forced it and broke through anyway, that was a mistake.

Anyway I like to play guitar, meditate a lot and go out in nature but it's cold as a bitch outside so I wonder if there's anything else I can do? I've quit all drugs including caffeine and I don't smoke
Lydia Brookspear - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:32:50 EST ID:6F1fgnJg No.28829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Stay off drugs including weed. Not forever, but until your hppd subsides

Fuck sobriety by Ernest Chennerbury - Sun, 08 May 2016 01:29:53 EST ID:9LdBlQb0 No.28129 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I fucking hate being sober, it's literal hell. Every negative feeling exists, there's no enlightenment or any sort of uplifting mood. I get very insecure, depressed and very lonely. The drugs aren't there to numb it. I don't want to get on antidepressants, it sounds like complete bullshit. I want something that takes it ALL way, I don't want treatment or anything that wastes my time only for the depression to come back. I just want my drugs that's it. Why can't I have that? Why does society have to repress drugs from us? Why is it so hard to get? It's as if life just wants you to be miserable. Fuck I wouldn't mind killing myself over it, at least I died happy. Opiates in particular im speaking of, no drug compares to it. I feel fucking Invincible. As of now, I am suicidal. And fuck I wish I had something to just take it all away. I don't think I'll ever achieve happiness, I'm always miserable
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Ebenezer Clillyfuck - Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:14:31 EST ID:21BsQNKK No.28504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Try a raw vegan diet.

Fuck that noise.
Nicholas Drupperked - Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:32:05 EST ID:zRZnOLNm No.28742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
killing yourself will solve nothing, you'll just be born again and repeat the same mistakes because you didn't learn anything

you may not believe that but its a very real possibility just like anything else
Matilda Fosslehidge - Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:21:29 EST ID:Qzvccu3S No.28746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shit, I feel you bro ...

Have you tried st. john's wort tea? it has some mood stabilizing properties like anti-depressants but more safe and natural.
it will probably need 5-7 days to feel better. but it works.
Shitting Fongerson - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:12:11 EST ID:QZglx7Px No.28823 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Theres a couple of things at play here. Firstly, the drugs, regardless of which ones, change your perceptions. For me it was alcohol and opiates and benzos. I had been drinking for a good 25 years and had never dealt with a single significant life issue without alcohol. Once I found opiates, well then the bets were off again. All the best parts of alcohol, no hangover and fucking awesome mood change.
The thing to remember is that the drugs alter your perceptions of reality, even for a while after you've stopped. This makes your view of reality warped and often worse.

The second thing is, life can and will suck. The same life shit will come up whether you are sober or smashed. It's our inability to deal with those situations which make us seek out options in drugs and alcohol.
What I found works is to get off myself. Simple shit to begin with. I'm walking outside sober and my mind is going a million miles an hour telling me how fucked up shit is, why i hate this person, how am I gonna deal with X, Y is gonna happen and I'm going to be fucked, etc. To get out of that loop, just look at something. A tree, the clouds, grass, a dog running around, anything at all. It sounds dumb, but it breaks that loop.
As mentioned above, meditation also does this exact same thing. It helps you quieten the thoughts, which in turn reduces the amount of time your brain spends in negative spinning. The key is to try and step out of your thoughts and observe what is going on - 'shit there goes my mind again'. Your thoughts are exactly that, just thoughts, they aren't you and you don't have to follow them.
Good luck with it all. It took me a few months to realise the extent of how warped my thinking was and it's been an ongoing challenge to keep aware of it and treat it with these types of simple tools.
Lastly, be kind to yourself. You are doing a great job in even acknowledging where you currently are, becoming aware is the first step of recovery.
Augustus Bongerstidge - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 04:17:30 EST ID:nOdhB9XI No.28828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
probably because youre an addict

Those damn hair follicles... by Hannah Deffingfet - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:42:42 EST ID:g4J9FTE3 No.28824 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, I had a minor relapse in which I used from 1/04-1/19. My ex girlfriend wants to hair test me 90 days after the 11th of January. She thinks that it's the last day I used, I don't want to make things worse obviously so I agreed to take a hair test for her exactly 90 days after 1/11 to prove (or not) that I have been clean since that exact date.

Now, I already am going to just assume that any of the shampoos or whatever that they sell are complete bullshit just like the detox potions they sell for weed/other drugs. I have a pretty fast metabolism and I generally exercise daily. The drugs in my hair would be meth and heroin, she doesn't care about me using weed. If I stop my usage on 1/19 (Giving it an extra day as a buffer since I will stop using after tonight but the drugs won't have metabolized yet.) Is there any chance I have of succeeding? I really would like to reconcile with her more than anything in the world, this is extremely important to me. Would cardio exercise, maintaining a health diet, etc... even help at all?

Please let me know if there is any way at all for me to mitigate my chances of failing this test! I really need advice here...
Jenny Chonderchere - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 00:25:06 EST ID:gTj147k5 No.28825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
meth and heroin? i think you have bigger problems than just your gf dumping you. she's the last thing you should be worrying about. you should be worried about yourself.
Hannah Deffingfet - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:27:31 EST ID:g4J9FTE3 No.28826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've dealt with full on addiction to both of these substances and have gotten off of both of them for a long time. My recent usage is due to being pathetic and resorting to a drug cocktail as a means of suicide about a week ago. As you can tell, my intentional overdose was unsuccessful. I have since stopped using after my bender, and I need to prove to her that I am not going back to being a junkie like I was before.
Jenny Chonderchere - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 02:19:51 EST ID:gTj147k5 No.28827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well atleast you stopped using. i can't say or tell what your WD is like right now. but, it seems like you're determined to keep your relationship with your girl and get sober for the better. good job so far.

looking for advice by Thomas Pablingkadge - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:00:08 EST ID:AsLkV3RP No.28819 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have stopped using heroin and deleted my contacts i have been sober for 4 days i have a job interview this week on wednesday while going through withdrawls i used an OTC sleep aid and today i looked up that the active ingredient can cause a false positive should i be worried or should i buy a detox drink from the head shop

Brain Fog by tony soprano - Tue, 02 Aug 2016 01:03:38 EST ID:1K7iFAHX No.28419 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone experience sustained brain fog after quitting various drugs?

I quit all "drugs" 108 days ago (chronic weed usage for four years, occasional stimulant abuse, DXM a few times, few psych trips etc)
I quit nicotine cold turkey 105 days ago
I quit caffeine 50 days ago

The only thing I have done since is drink (getting properly drunk two days a week, occasional beer outside of that) which I have decided to give up two days ago.

Throughout this whole period, I have been in a perpetual state of brain fog. Difficulty concentrating, feeling like I'm watching a movie of my life, even sometimes feeling so detached / depersonalized that I almost feel high. It's terrible. I believe I'm suffering from depression as well, which may have something to do with it.

Anyway, anyone experience this / have any relatable info?
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David Peblinggold - Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:28:01 EST ID:ELQabZUX No.28437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hate the 'inbetween' feeling of detoxing from weed. I was once fine being sober, and im comfortable being high, but transitioning from high to sober sucks. I feel more fucked up than I ever did before. I feel so empty and hollow, like everything is devoid of any existential meaning.

There doesnt even seem to be any meaning in smoking anymore. Get high again, for what? Play some video games and fall asleep, waking up with my brain even more fried? Its just killing time.

The only thing approaching sobriety has shown me that to truly enjoy the experience of life, the mind must be fully engaged in what it is you are doing. Being depressed, anxious, high, these are all mental states that detach us from reality. Being sober, lucid, focused, mindful, these are the mental states that keep us grounded and 'plugged in' to the experience of life.

Ive also found that personal relationships are a good way of 'coming back'. Having a gf or friend that makes you go out and do things is a good way of getting out of the house. Your relationship with them will also help you discover or re-discover things about yourself, what you like and dislike, what you have patience for, who you are.
Doris Pimmlekodge - Wed, 14 Sep 2016 18:51:21 EST ID:LE+XjVnM No.28548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>remove alcohol
>add tea

the caffeine levels in oolong and green tea are nothing comparable to what's in soda or coffee you get from stores. tea is incredibly healthy and will zap your brain fog away. you're honestly complaining about brainfog when you quit caffeine and added twice/week shitfaced on booze to your life? come on, man.

quit the booze, start drinking tea instead of soda/coffee and you'll feel great.
Oliver Dartway - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:08:36 EST ID:HSOQ5R1m No.28584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This. Green tea is amazing.
Simon Sigglegold - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 21:46:56 EST ID:O2oCWrRB No.28587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lydia Crorringdock - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 06:39:14 EST ID:51TjI8oh No.28817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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These are really helpful insights man. I feel exactly the way you are describing right now. Been completely sober (lots of sports + healthy food + sometimes a very low dose of caffeine before training) for about 8months and now since 2months I have been smoking daily again..

It has been two months of skipping workouts, laying on the couch, watching series, playing videogames, wallowing inside this 'brain fog'. It also has a real bad effect on my sleep quality. All because I have become too comfortable in my job and felt the need to always be baked again. It's a pity.

I think the part you wrote about 'mental states' is spot on. I never thought about it this way, but it is really all about being able to change your mental state yourself. I can attest to the fact that working out heavily (martial arts and weightlifting in my case) really helps a lot. I didn't only sweat out the toxins and found a reason to stay sober (performing better the next workout). It also built my confidence and made me more attractive. Resulting in better social interactions, a new girlfriend and landing the best job I've ever had in my life.

You are also right that social interactions are key. Other people can be windows through which you see the world differently, and you will notice that your detox-induced misanthropic view of society isn't necessarily the only 'correct' one and as you mentioned you can change your mental state to one that's more helpful to you.
I will definately look into meditation after reading your post.

I really hope you keep it up brother, as going back to where I am now is really frustrating and not as relaxing and laid back as you might imagine it. Be strong! I am rooting for you

Take Home Drug Test Faint Line by Reuben Fepperfet - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 21:10:21 EST ID:hDHWgiTJ No.28790 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have a LabCorp urine test tomorrow.

I haven't smoked since Thanksgiving. I'm not a heavy smoker, I've probably smoked like 10 times in 2016 with a few weeks in between each session.

I've taken 3 at home urine tests, three different brands. They all come up negative, but with a faint line. One line isn't that faint though, and one is pretty faint. You get my point.

Doing some googling, I've heard conflicting things about this. Some people say "A line's a line, you passed" or "The faintness of the line has nothing to do with your ng/ml levels. The strips have no way to quantify it, they only show a line if you're under 50 ng/ml" but some other people say "The fainter it is, the closer you are to 50 ng/ml"

What's the truth here?
Ian Tootspear - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 14:11:25 EST ID:YnLTJ3mj No.28806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You probably smoke in your sleep lol
Cyril Blytheshaw - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:59:26 EST ID:fFKN/jGe No.28809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you havent smoked in a month you are good to go pee in any cup.
Matilda Blodgenetch - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 02:56:20 EST ID:00C6EdfK No.28816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
doesn't it vary based on the type of lab test?

Piss tests by Charles Crangerworth - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:59:17 EST ID:DOXQentL No.28815 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've got a situation where I have to pass a drug test in order to keep my adderall prescription. That's a problem because I've been smoking a shit ton lately. What I want to know is if I take a rapid detox drink to flush myself out and take my adderall afterwards, would it metabolize in my system fast enough to yield a positive on a test?

Taper Strategy Curve by Martin Settingchot - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 20:23:40 EST ID:ECfngw0O No.28569 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How to taper, what is medically preferred method?
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Barnaby Smallfuck - Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:32:22 EST ID:bzYegZzh No.28620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 04:42:50 EST ID:DqMZU7iL No.28624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Augustus Billinghood - Tue, 18 Oct 2016 21:27:13 EST ID:QBG7XEv6 No.28631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this thread made me lol out loud
Edwin Clongerfon - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 02:53:07 EST ID:1AbxK04f No.28811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bumping for interest.
Tapering off opi's for me:
Steep linear start, rapidly can drop to about 50% of dose as fast as possible. The step down. Just for example with a 100mg a day habit, something like -10mg/day over 5 days 100mg ->50mg, then hold for a week. Then drop 5mg hold for 1 day (45mg), drop another 5 for 2 days (40mg), drop another 5 for 3 days (35mg)...etc down to 0 I guess. Never made it past about 20% of the starting dose, and when I say days I mean 3-4 half-lives. In that example it would be heroin with a half life of 4-6 or 6-8 hours.
Done something similar with methadone spaced further, and fent analogues with shorter duration.
Martha Gongerhere - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:07:24 EST ID:rV4/QHiM No.28814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Fibonacci method: get at least one other person to join you in your tapering, then only allow yourself to meet up to do the drug together once every 1 day, 1 day, 2 days, 3 days, 5 days, etc.

Well, I guess technically that'd be exponential.

fug by Doris Trotbury - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:19:06 EST ID:QBG7XEv6 No.28813 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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ive been dabbing multiple times daily
can i pass a drug test in 3.5 weeks if i stop and drink a lot and run a lot and shit?

shy bladder by Fanny Fuckingforth - Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:33:51 EST ID:N9dxx9ir No.28732 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I can't do a urine test. I'm too much of a pussy to take a piss in another room while someone is listening to me. I managed to do it before but it took 4 tries before I was able to make a sample. I just can't get over this anxiety and I don't know why. I can pass a drug test, no problem but I'd rather take a blood test over this shit. I have a retail job right now that didn't test me but I'm only getting 20 hours a week and every business around me requires a piss test.

What the hell can I do?
Ebenezer Faddleson - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:56:17 EST ID:VNCJJSb+ No.28736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Stop being a fucking pussy and have some willpower over your anxiety
Augustus Greenbury - Sat, 10 Dec 2016 06:32:56 EST ID:bb+lYrl0 No.28741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What a brilliant post.

Take an RC benzo for the anxiety or look into into propranalol. A doctor may be able to help you find a drug for bladder shyness and it isn't uncommon problem. I guess practice in public restrooms possibly or to try the the drugs at. Best of of luck.
Basil Masslehat - Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:16:57 EST ID:sm7B5NrW No.28747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Brilliant is taking a benzo before a drug test. RC? some some may show up, some may not. Never heard the definitive answer of what show and what will not. At times it may have been luck in one form or another.
I do know that some corporations requires may require tests for all all employees, but can have the option to discard samples of those who have no obvious signs of any drug use or issues of performance.
Ian Tootspear - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 14:16:19 EST ID:YnLTJ3mj No.28808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just keep in mind that you don't know any of these retards and you will never meet em again

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