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the butt end of phenny

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- Sun, 18 Oct 2020 16:07:31 EST NafdFDI4 No.31229
File: 1603051651512.png -(587638B / 573.87KB, 770x529) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. the butt end of phenny
Was using phenibut on and off for the past few months, usually no more than once a week but about 2-2.5g each time. Things in my personal life got stressful a month or so ago and I started using it more frequently and noticing that it stopped making me feel good and just kind of made me feel insane, so I stopped cold turkey about two weeks ago.
So far I feel pretty lame socially, much more reserved, afraid of eye contact, avoidant of conversation, just awkward in general. A big part of why I (and probably most others) took phenibut was because it brought out the best in me; calm, direct, driven, charismatic and humorous. Now that's mostly gone and I feel boring and bland as hell, my voice is weak and uneasy and I feel like I bore my girlfriend to tears, I never say anything interesting any more, it's like all I can come up with is small talk.
Was it rash of me to quit the stuff cold turkey? I don't feel depressed necessarily, just kind of trapped in my own head and useless. I have only about 8g of it left. Would it be wise to take it again at a lower dose once a week until it's all gone even though I stopped two weeks ago? Or should I continue to abstain and rely on other therapeutic rehab - chamomile tea, magnesium, blue lotus ? I just want to feel as much the way I did before as possible.
Phyllis Brookworth - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 00:52:56 EST gGyZyw08 No.31230 Reply
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Well i'm currently kicking Phenibut myself (although not sober at all). After taking about the same amount (2g) a day for a couple months i weened down the last 8 days. Still got hit with some mild dysphoria and waves of shacking and anxiety. I just drank a beer or two and then went on with my day and other then that it hasn't been that bad or even as bad as withdrawal from a conventional benzo like alprazolam. So i would say just dump the rest and deal with feeling shitty for a few more days. I, also like you, found Phenibut lost it's initial magic really quickly and the last few normal doses i couldn't even notice feeling any different. Trash drug IMHO, only plus about it is it's legal and cheap.
Ernest Moggleworth - Sat, 24 Oct 2020 01:46:38 EST zjaFNaPd No.31235 Reply
it made me feel like i was stopping breathing when i started to go to sleep, that was enough for me to not do it ever again

Craving Resurgance

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- Thu, 15 Oct 2020 01:42:48 EST jYNUxYRZ No.31221
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I wasted a few years on drugs (adderall, vyvanse, weed, lsd, and some mystery internet amphetamines which were probably meth tbh). The only drugs I really CRAVE are amphetamine. Hardly a day goes by that I don't think about them, and I still have fiend dreams in which I'm digging through every crevice in the house looking for pills (I still check my stash spots when I clean). I haven't done amphetamine (or any other stims for that matter) for about two years now. I have extra money lying around atm (as compared to being totally fucking broke like I normally am) and I've had cravings nonstop this month. At this rate I might cave tbh, I'm not being responsible with my sleep and I feel like I'm not making any progress on my creative projects because college saps up all of my damn energy. It's demotivating and I just want to get high again. I miss that feeling. Just the sheer ecstacy of taking as much amp as I can get my grubby little hands and staring at porn for 48 hours. I keep trying to justify it to myself, even though I know it's not rational or what's best for me.
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wqw - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:40:25 EST yyeEYcHo No.31224 Reply
My main concern is the sweats man...That first week is literally me changing my sheets every night, so I'm look to just enjoy it once a month recreationally, and really don't want to go through that ordeal all over again. So looking for some advice on if it's possible, and how to avoid the build up of THC/Nicotine so I don't need to go through a week ordeal each time.

Any advice, tips and stories would be welcome
Betsy Soshdale - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 12:23:56 EST 4nuvqYKt No.31226 Reply
>I'm look to just enjoy it once a month recreationally
Oh sweet summer child.
See you again in a year or two, some mistakes have to be made yourself to truly learn from
Polly Figgletork - Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:01:36 EST Qo40SEOd No.31234 Reply
If you dont want to cave in, my advice would be:
put your money in a place where its safe but you cant access it easy
like buying silver coins that you got to exchange(also not a bad long term investment), stashing with someone you trust etc

I've never been hooked on amph's but I notice that even though I have a craving for alcohol/weed/caffine/tobacco, as long as I cant access it easy the desire is also further away and I accept I cant just do it without taking extra steps.

The mental aspect of an addiction is hard, stay strong bro!

Methadone taper / possible suboxone switch at 30mg

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- Wed, 21 Oct 2020 19:11:03 EST TMczopCf No.31233
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Have any of you tapered off methadone and either gone to zero or transferred to suboxone? I’m on 110mg methadone and have been for a while, not doing any other opiates. I’ve been off dope and fentanyl for two years now... here’s a pic from when I was using those are all empty .1 bags. I’m really happy with how far I’ve come but the side effects are too much I sweat like crazy on methadone and never really feel okay. I used to feel better on suboxone but the way fentanyl gets stored in your fat cells makes it impossible to switch to suboxone so when I could only get fentanyl I was screwed with no choice but to get on methadone this time. I know it’s going to be hard but I have all the time In the world to get it done (no job or other stressful shit) and I can definitely get ahold of benzos, gabapentin, lyrica and adderall as tools too help me through it. I either want to get off of it or taper down to 30mgs and transfer off to suboxone.

Have any of you had experience with a controlled taper? Is it better to go fast or like 2mg at a time? I was thinking 10mg a week at first until I got down to maybe 60mg of methadone and then slowing down/recruiting other meds to aid me along the way.

Any input is welcome, if you know what this methadone shit is like then you know how hellish it is, I’m not living my life like this so it has to be done

Hooch Detox

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- Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:37:24 EST +J3kstzB No.31232
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Sup /detox/,

Never thought I'd post here, especially after I got off the dope and benzos back in 2016. Anyway, I'm clean now besides a bit of booze and a ton of cannabis concentrates, but my girlfriend is struggling hard with the hooch. She called me today sick as fuck and said she's done and wants to get clean, so I told her I'm in and will help her. I only ever had one friend who was an alcoholic though, and he got clean through years and years of rehab.

I come to you today because I'm looking for advice on how to help this girl feel alright and taper off the alcohol. I'm planning on getting dramamine for nausea, loratadine for diarrhea, my famous vegan ramen noodle soup for nutrients (it's not famous), and I'll be working with her to help moderate her consumption so she can successfully taper. She's also ~30 years deep in benzos and has a trazodone script too. If you'd like more background, see the link below (not my thread but I posted in it about my shit).


I'd post a nice pic but back when I more or less stopped posting on 420chan I deleted my massive pic folder (which I deeply fucking regret), so instead here's the writ of habeas corpus.

How long to feel normal after quitting weed?

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- Sat, 01 Feb 2020 23:12:50 EST p7BbtgYg No.30871
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Doing a pretty basic detox off Weed. Been a heavy smoker for several years and now that I'm in my late twenties and looking for a job I'm ready to kick the green goddess. How long will it take me to feel normal again? I've heard some people don't feel baseline until like 3 or 4 months into the detox.
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Ian Chickleridge - Thu, 14 May 2020 14:58:56 EST 32aUz0C4 No.31046 Reply
As a former heroin addict whose primary addiction is now Cannabis i can tell you that the physical and mental withdrawal symptoms from heavy use, especially if you use primarily concentrates like me, can get pretty bad in the first few days and linger for months afterwards. Though it also does depend of course on one's lifestyle in terms of diet, exercise etc.
OP - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 22:43:37 EST MS2c8+qg No.31231 Reply
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OP here. I unfortunately relapsed while in the middle of Quarantine and started smoking again back in June. I really want to quit but I feel like a fuck up since I have to start all over again.

Smoking pot / Tobacco around once a month

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- Mon, 31 Aug 2020 07:24:45 EST 0/yMZRF9 No.31169
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Anyone ever dabble with this?
Basically, I've been off weed and tobacco for 3 weeks, as I'm just generally trying to look after my health and lungs, however, on Saturday I had two joints, now I'm trying to go on the detox for 3/4 weeks again. I was a full time pot and cig smoker before that, anyone ever had success with this kind of behaviour? With maybe smoking once a month?

My main concern is the sweats man...That first week is literally me changing my sheets every night, so I'm look to just enjoy it once a month recreationally, and really don't want to go through that ordeal all over again. So looking for some advice on if it's possible, and how to avoid the build up of THC/Nicotine so I don't need to go through a week ordeal each time.

Any advice, tips and stories would be welcome
Charles Trothall - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 13:41:10 EST FjwY+zut No.31183 Reply
Have you tried edibles ?
Phineas Pallyfane - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 12:07:05 EST KepTBbp5 No.31223 Reply
I remember the sweats. I think changing your method of intake is a good idea. If you used to smoke it, try vaping or edibles instead. Don't go back to doing whatever you had issues with, it will creep up on you.

I stopped drinking alcohol, now what?

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- Mon, 02 Mar 2020 02:06:16 EST R5xHNFxT No.30936
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I'm so bored at parties and nights out without alcohol. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going back to drinking. I quit for good, and I plan to keep a promise of sobriety I made to a good friend. It's just that, I realize now that without alcohol there's very little point or fun in parties or the like. I don't know what to do, let alone how I will take the edge off my anxiety. Don't suggest weed, I'm not going to take a hit before I show up to a kid's b-day party.
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Betsy Dracklefidge - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 09:10:14 EST 05ZQLJb7 No.31137 Reply
Absolute truth here. Kratom withdrawal caught me out big time before! And it then pushed me back in the proper Opi scene again after a while. Went from Kratom to Heroin very quickly last relapse! Over a year after 'quitting' the H I'm still taking 6mg a day Bupe to be well. All legit and scripted btw, so I'm starting to heal my mind by avoiding all the dodgy crap that comes with using
Charles Greenhood - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 03:08:19 EST YH2eFDx6 No.31218 Reply
lmao i know this is an old thread but fuck if they don't want to smoke weed before going to family functions I don't know if fucking GHB would be on the table

Going sober while owning the party house

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- Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:13:23 EST KyAK6hWE No.31179
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So I constantly have drugs coming through my place. Bags of weed, bottles of liquor, opiate painkillers, benzos, cocaine, you name it. It's a constant party. I've been trying to go sober cause there's a snitch at work and my habits are known. I've long stopped mixing my highs and work together, and quit alcohol a while back, but... I keep relapsing.

Alcohol I usually keep in check (relapse once in a blue moon; usually only last a day or two), and I haven't smoked weed for almost 2 months, but... cocaine is really enticing, among other things. I can usually go 2 weeks to a month, but eventually I'll do those lines. Maybe mix a klonopin or two with, but I always regret it after. It really pains me. I get no euphoria from the drugs anymore, and just get fucked up when I use. Mix and match, all that. And the comedowns are always rough, and make me wanna out a bullet in my head.

I really want to go sober though. The month and a half without anything was the clearest I've ever been. I had more control over my actions, words, and emotions. But every so often I can't help myself. And when I tell people at my place to help me and just tell me no, I get push back, saying I'll just ask them again or get grumpy. Well of course! I'm addicted! I'm asking them to help me through that time so I can be clean.

I had liquor, a benzo, and some coke 3 days ago. I figure I wait a month, then tell my job I want to take random drug tests. I'm going in for a psych eval 2 weeks from now, so I could use that as a guise as to why I want this done, as to monitor my condition or whatever. I'll come up with a better reason later.

I figure I can use this as a threat to everyone at home. Either I use and they all go homeless cause I'm the only one paying the bills and will lose my job if I fail a drug test, or they can help me go sober, and we all can keep living. Sadly, the people consist of my fiancée, her sister, her brother, his girlfriend, and their friends. Did I mention all the kids as well? The place is never clean.

I hate my life and want to change so I can have options in the future, and go places, and raise my family out of the trailer park, but it feels hopeless. Sorry for the venting and ranting, everyone. I just had to get some stuff off my chest. It's terrible, being a slave to the altered mind. How are y'all holding up? What's your situation like? Let's help each other out, when no one in our actual lives will.
Graham Greenstone - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 16:27:11 EST 4nuvqYKt No.31182 Reply
Willpower is a finite ressource, and there's studies to prove it. if you're constantly surrounded by temptation, your willpower will eventually give out, usually on a rough day where you've used it a ton.

That's why people work on systems to control their environment and exposure to temptation. Basically, if you don't change your particular living situation, then unless you have truly superhuman (or at the very least, Olympic athlete level) will power, you're probably shit out of luck dude. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, and I hope I'm wrong for your sake, but all the reasearch and years spent trying to get sober only confirm how certain I am of that.

Some things gotta change, and you're gonna have to make tough decisions. Good luck
Charles Trothall - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 13:51:45 EST FjwY+zut No.31184 Reply
If you own the house, then you have to tell these people that they need to change their habits or move out. It's really that simple. If they want to party and do drugs, they will have to do it elsewhere. If you're the only one paying bills, then you do have the leverage to do this, and if you really want to be sober then you can't afford to be spineless right now. As Graham said, you can't be around this environment and be sober at the same time, because you will have days when you want to throw it all away and destroy everything, and those will be the days that you abuse substances. I suggest rethinking your engagement as well, because it seems like there's a whole lot of cocaine and benzos between you and your fiancee.
Cornelius Blytheway - Fri, 09 Oct 2020 14:28:58 EST 9yaWLNwi No.31213 Reply

OP, the rule for avoiding a bad trip is to change the environment when the vibrations become unpleasant. This also applies to life; you're going to have to make some changes if you actually want to get sober. Good luck OP

Playing with fire

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- Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:14:17 EST kt4T2ciE No.31186
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Can I use a combination of beer and Benzos to taper off the liquor? My doc prescribed me some Ativan but I don't think it's going to be enough. 10x 1mg over four days seems laughably low. Still sweating and blood pressure is sky high.
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SP_trip - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 01:23:51 EST D123NPx0 No.31189 Reply
Only use Benzos to handle booze w/d while at in inpatient rehab.

Many people taper booze on their own. Many people cannot. If you cannot go to a real rehab.

To taper booze first count the number of drinks you consume in a day. Count over 3 days. Use the average of those three days.

Was your number over 24? I don’t know how to handle that, look up a guide that does.

Was your number less than 24? Much easier.
Switch to beer (1 serving of alcohol per can), or use a shot glass to perfectly measure your liquor consumption. Drink when you would normally drink. Every 3 days lower the number of drinks you consume by no more than 2, until you get to 10 drinks a day. When you get to 10 drinks a day every three days decrease the number of drinks you have by 1.

You’ll get delayed w/d. Decreasing the number of drinks Monday night might not be felt until Wednesday. This is why we wait three days before lowering the dose. If you need some extra time between tapers you can extend it for a day or two, but you can absolutely not increase the amount of alcohol consumption. If you increase the amount of alcohol consumption you’ll likely blow the entire taper project, and you most likely will need to go to rehab to get off booze.

I’d suggest weed, tobacco, and video games to get you through the taper. It’ll suck, but tbh you’ll feel healthier most of the time on the taper. Just gotta keep the self control to not werewolf on your booze.
Gordon Faggot - Tue, 06 Oct 2020 05:33:45 EST vaER90At No.31205 Reply
yeah this, Measure your drinks and do your booze maths and it should work it self out if you want it to.

Amitryptiline(TCA antidepressant) withdrawal or just depression

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- Thu, 24 Sep 2020 13:01:37 EST K0/+CiPn No.31191
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So about a month ago I took a small dose of amitryptiline so I could sleep, at this time I was also sleep deprived and heard some bad news related to my exams. Ever since then I feel like I have those shitty anticholinergic symptoms(brain fog, feeling/acting slow, stumbling on words) but all of these could be related to depression so I don't know what's wrong with me

Stories about being found out / Hysterical Family members stories

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- Tue, 11 Aug 2020 03:26:51 EST XyERJtJe No.31142
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How do you manage? I know that its because they care but for me at least I just want to run and hide.'

Ive blown over 20 thousand dollars on drugs in about 6 months and everyone hates me, but no more than i hate myself

post stories
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Lillian Drinnershaw - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 18:14:12 EST 2hCAY6AH No.31188 Reply
Doesn't really fit well because I didn't get caught by anyone important, but a few years ago I was smoking heroin by myself for the first time, at my parent's house. I finished and went inside good and high, fucked around in the kitchen for a bit, etc. My parents had left the living room/kitchen area and went to their bedroom before I came in so they didn't see me.

I eventually walk to my room where my brother was, and he immediately goes "Dude, what the fuck is all over your face?" I had soot ALL OVER my face; it got on my hands from the foil I smoked with and then on my face from itching as I got high. Apparently it's a classic heroin addict tell and I would've been fucked if either of my parents saw me.
Rebecca Fibberludging - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:26:17 EST KImF1Qix No.31193 Reply
>I had soot ALL OVER my face
>Apparently it's a classic heroin addict tell
I feel like this is one of those things where its only really a tell if you have personal experience with it


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- Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:29:25 EST 1CLcNZz+ No.31167
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Heyo so a friend of mine has been on pristiq (desvenlafaxine) since she was 15 (25 now). Wants to get off cause you know, it's satan in a drug form. apparently weening is ridiculous. Heard that lowest available dose is 25mg but going cold turkey from that is still fucked.

Was discussing with a mate whether it would be possible to cut down the smallest pills and make a "makeshift" slow release coating to create lower dosage pills to ween off at the end?

tl:dr can you cut down pristiq and make it slow release still

any other advice appreciated, fuck this drug
James Summerstone - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 00:30:29 EST GYH6nPeZ No.31185 Reply
I don't really have any input on your question, but I was on effexor for about a year and that shit fucked me up for the better part of the last decade. They may be able to try some Grey market nootropics to help the healing process. I'd recommend bpc-157 and maybe this shit called emoxypine.

Tbh you can probably just break the pills up and just take some every couple hours. Just ween their way down systematically. Isn't there a smaller dose they can take? Maybe the doc can work with you too


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- Tue, 30 Jun 2020 14:57:42 EST lIipv4lo No.31085
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I was looking at the BWS 3 and realized that it was made in 2018 and went all the way to 2020. Seeing that it's end of June 2020. I wanted to make a new and improved BWS, 2020 edition!

I'll be lurking here, seeing that I've been sober for close to 6 months straight, no drugs, no alcohol, only caffeine in the form of coffee, and nicotine chew, no cigs or tobacco products.

It's crazy to think that this is the longest I have been sober since I was 16 years, and damn the clarity feels good. For those in the beginning phases, I want to let you know that it's possible and it takes time. Like all things, hard work is needed.

I'm 29 years old, and I'd like to say that drugging is now done, and I would like to start a new chapter in my life. Something more long term and with meaning.

I'll be lurking here, trying to add input here and there, but always remember if old Gucci Mane can become new Gucci Mane, you can too!
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Jenny Boffingpin - Mon, 07 Sep 2020 13:02:52 EST 0vecaZrn No.31177 Reply
I'm 4 days into my suboxone taper. Doing good so far. I'm truly motivated to get clean and be sober from not just opiates. But, sober from all drugs and stay clean. I was abusing dph for a week. When I found out about HPPD I put a stop to the dph abuse. Dph and other drugs are not worth abusing and getting addicted. I want to have a fulfilling life and be happy and at peace from what happened to me when I was growing up.

I'm back on my diet and am losing weight at a fast pace. I turned into a fatass while I was getting high everyday. Im also heading back into the gym tomorrow which I'm excited for since working out and training is my passion. Also, I'm looking for a therapist since I need help due to my issues. I

I know I can do all of this. Im going to put in the effort and work to get to where I want to be in life. I must keep my mind occupied and myself as a whole so I won't think about drugs, even after im done my taper. Im starting to meditate which is working out well for me and is making it so I dont have cravings. Along with that its making me feel calm and I dont get mad over stupid shit anymore like I use to. I feel more at ease now as well.

To all of you who are getting off of drugs to lead a great life i salute you. Drugs can fuck up your whole life and in the end its its just not worth it. Keep going brahs! We're all gonna make it!!
Cornelius Cennermutch - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 00:41:23 EST ND8QvVUm No.31180 Reply
end of day 10 cold turkey off of kratom. infinitely easier than pk or PST withdrawal, but it's still no picnic. the real goal of all of this is to give my body a break for 60-100 days and i'm sort of having trouble coming to terms with that. it's been a decade of using and abusing. i really hope by the end of this i can find some happy medium where i can limit myself to something on the weekend. but i've just never been that guy. the cravings have been super rough, and i just find myself pacing around my house counting down hours and days until i feel like i've earned the right to try and use responsibly again.
Graham Greenstone - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 16:21:59 EST 4nuvqYKt No.31181 Reply
Might want to come to terms with the fact that you're just not someone who can use responsibly, and find something sober you can get addictied to like exercise, meditation, food or whatever.

Skydiving is a dope af addiction if you can afford it

BORING without weed.

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- Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:57:07 EST xIXC+NXC No.31125
File: 1595905027731.gif -(536619B / 524.04KB, 220x202) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. BORING without weed.
Iit is extremely boring to live without weed or alcohol.
I am distracted by working and playing video games but it is not enough, do we have tips?
I stopped drinking and smoking weed because in March I had burnout and heart attack symptoms.
Today I take Lexapro 10mg and drink a little and smoke weed, hidden.
For a long time I did this almost every day, mainly weed, now I smoke once every two or three weeks and drink like this as well.

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Ian Bracklebot - Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:08:26 EST E5tMjZ9O No.31155 Reply
I think that's why I'm addicted to weed. I am such a boring person with such a boring life that weed is the only thing that can make it bearable. Things that are fun generally involve doing stuff with friends, but I started isolating when the depression hit. Now it's been over a decade of that shit, I just dug a hole that was too deep to get out of. Weed was the only thing that could make doing nothing all day by yourself day after day bearable.
Hangry & lovesick chihuahua - Sun, 06 Sep 2020 17:33:21 EST Xj9sIgGL No.31176 Reply
learn the hidden arts of botany my friend, you will never be bored again.

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