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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Placebos for Amphetamine

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- Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:10:13 EST fFcCFMIR No.30908
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I'm a recovering addict with ADD, BPD, and CPTSD. A year ago, I was heavily dependent on benzos, phenibut, and alcohol, but after detox I've mostly been able to stay sober. The problem is now I find myself abusing my prescriptions for ADD to numb myself during flashbacks and the like. This used to be Dexedrine, but recently I asked to be switched to Vyvanse since it's harder to abuse, but still find myself abusing it anyway despite not enjoying the effects when you take more of it than intended.

I noticed there's an immediate relief when I chew the capsules though. This is clearly not because of the drug taking effect, since it needs to be metabolized by the liver before the drug will even do anything for me. Is there a benign substance out there that comes in a powder and tastes like amphetamine that I can fill some capsules with?
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Matilda Samblebodging - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:24:35 EST 5pZpVPjX No.30916 Reply
You don't need a crutch, you need the ability to decide to refuse to hide behind your addiction. You apparently do not have this ability if you're just white knuckling your abstinence by using other stims.
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m - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 20:48:47 EST MKZ4RFFW No.30945 Reply
Placebo doesn't really work if you know it's placebo. The relief you feel is due to anticipation of effects that you've established through persistent, consistent cause and effect, i.e. you take a particular color and textured capsule and it always has the effect of amphetamines. Doing this is not going to work when you know for sure it's not real. If it somehow occurs the first or second time, that connection will rapidly continue to weaken.

I recommend sticking only to oral use and only dosing once a say period. You can't responsibly decide when it's a "good" time to dose or redose, because it's almost always a good time. If you already only use orally and still can't control yourself, you need to give your shit to a responsible adult who can dispense them for you.

Honestly, you should just taper down somewhat slowly and replace it with preferably armodafinil or regular modafinil. I've had similar albeit much more mild problems with dexedrine/adderall IR in the past, but ultimately I just sucked it up and stopped taking extra. You understand that this drug makes BPD WAY WAY worse, right? It's generally not advisable to take hard stimulants if you have BPD.

I'm scripted 60mg dex IR/day or 60-80mg addy IR/day depending, and these days I tend to only take 30-35mg/day. After a while taking more doesn't even do anything, especially with vyvanse.

Order some modafinil/armodafinil ASAP, preferably in legitimate tablet form. Then start tapering down, even if it's just 10% every week. Use a 0.001g scale like a Gemini-20 if you have to resort to chopping up pills or splitting up capsule contents.

How are you even able to sleep properly when you binge redose oral vyvanse? That shit is a nightmare. While it's true that Vyvanse is like a Dexedrine anti-abuse super-XR, I highly recommend Dexedrine IR or I guess XR instead of Adderall. Adderall is more jittery and anxiety-inducing, and IME more prone to causing mania.
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yf - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 23:20:24 EST jw0grZDG No.30950 Reply
>>30908
Hi

Im in the same boat. I heard about timed safes.Amazon has some. I've been considering it so I dont redose my addy.

good luck. this shit sucks sometimes

Powdered urine kit

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- Sat, 29 Feb 2020 07:51:37 EST bWmEQ3nl No.30932
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So I just bought one of these powdered urine kits (real urine, not synthetic) and I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with them?
My own research tells me they're legit but I'd appreciate some input from someone here.
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Nathaniel Buzzwell - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 11:06:49 EST P1TX8bNd No.30938 Reply
Nothing beats the taste of the real thing.

Urine test and QCarbo

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- Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:32:40 EST HxysIUN4 No.30823
File: 1579185160438.jpg -(78235B / 76.40KB, 783x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Urine test and QCarbo
Anyone ever used QCarbo to try and pass a drug test?

I have a urine test today and the last time I smoked was 4 days ago so there's no I can pass naturally. Qcarbo 20 was the only detox drink I was able to get on short notice. I know the odds aren't the best with QCarbo but it's my last line of defense.

Since this board moves slow I suspect I'll most likely be updating this after most likely fail.
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m - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 00:31:37 EST w0idoX9F No.30905 Reply
>>30849
There's no detox drink I'd trust with my life unless I only smoked a max of like just 0.5g per week and only on 1-2 days per week max. Even then, use either someone else's clean piss that's under 12 hours old with the hand warmers no microwave, or just use the newest edition of Quick Fix that's available from a reputable web site or local store, and be sure to call the company and verify the serial #/info on back is correct, newest edition or maybe the 1 before it, and doesn't expire before you'll need to use it.

I can't fake my piss tests as they test for what I'm scripted as well, but I'm only tested every 30 days, usually every 90 days. Unfortunately, the test limit is 10ng/ml, 5x more sensitive than normal tests, so realistically I have to only use like twice a month and wait at least one whole month before the test detoxing and still need to chug water take creatine and dilute the sample. So basically it's not worth doing.

Cocaine

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- Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:25:19 EST VX0tZUmX No.30854
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>No fap
No issues
>Quit smoking
Difficult but okay, just used to the rhytm which is the jardest part
>Quit weed
Took almost no effort
>Started doing cocaine.

If I have no issues with most drugs will this finally be the one to fuck me up? Any regular users of cocaine care to share whether they are addicted or not and how and why? And how difficult would it be able to kick after 5 months of 2 grams a week? I doubt I'll get any physical effects.
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Esther Chesslehood - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 08:33:35 EST NXWMINeU No.30860 Reply
>>30854

I dont know how but my reply ended up in that bot thread. Bumping with >>30859 (pun sort of intended)
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Charlotte Drullybanks - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 03:53:16 EST 7PmVbQ9w No.30903 Reply
>>30854
Depends man, usually you'll know when you're doing a drug that you've got a high affinity towards. When I got some trams once, I knew immediately that that shit could get me hooked easy since it was better than anything else i had tried. If cocaine is that to you, then you'll be smart enough to stay away from it I'd figure.

Where are you guys at?

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- Sun, 02 Feb 2020 09:27:43 EST 4pNq8w17 No.30885
File: 1580653663956.jpg -(120514B / 117.69KB, 960x921) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Where are you guys at?
Shout out to anyone who clicked on this for support in getting or staying off droogs or alcohol.

Not Drinking

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- Sun, 12 Jan 2020 19:34:59 EST kSvrQ2jm No.30810
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>2 weeks without a drink
Tell me /detox/ does this get any easier? Because right now shit sucks
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Nathaniel Sunkinhood - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:29:24 EST VX0tZUmX No.30855 Reply
>>30810
It gets easier. A Dutch comic once said on detox: 'The clinic advised me to jerk off, take a cold shower or eat a snickers. You don't know how many times I have stood in the shower eating a snickers while tugging on my dick' The cravings and coping will get less. Just pick up a functional life with jobs or volunteer work, fill the void and those cravings will go down. Temptation will stay.
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Molly Crallylatch - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 11:35:52 EST UGEd0vS7 No.30856 Reply
I'm trying to quit as well. I've been getting shitfaced since last September pretty much each day. I figured I need to quit because it's gonna kill me otherwise. I hope I'll make it, shit's tough. Good luck
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Cyril Coffingwitch - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 12:18:16 EST ziMXDuqS No.30857 Reply
>>30856
That's the hardest shit ever, you've just got to make a choice to not do it.

Dodging clozapine

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- Thu, 30 Jan 2020 20:32:58 EST cnV0CaOz No.30851
File: 1580434378034.jpg -(48654B / 47.51KB, 553x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Dodging clozapine
Used to smoke a lot of weed. Psychosis kicked in a few years deep. Been off it for about 4 years now, have no intentions to return to it -- journey was good, then it was bad and I had to live my life better. Due to the nature of my condition being eventually classified as persistent and treatment-resistant, they continually upped the meds. Diagnosis stopped being 'cannabis induced psychosis' after a very short time, despite that being the obvious cause to every professional I interacted with.

Long story short, I'm now actually court ordered to take clozapine. I've dealt with it for years now, but it's actively ruining my life and I've got roughly at least half a year more of it before I can get conversations and weaning to the point where a switch in prescription to something less destructive is guaranteed. Around christmas I pretty much said fuck it, I dose myself so I'm just going to stop periodically and figure out a way to avoid it.

The main problem here is because of the potential dangers of 'misprescription' before picking up your meds they test your blood. This happens once every four weeks. I've done enough research to know primarily what they're looking for, essentially measuring white blood cell count. I am not a chemist or a pharmacist, I need to know what else might flag up as shaky, if it is inevitable how much as a minimum I need to keep in my system to avoid complete detection, and remedies to manage side effects that aren't some other kind of pharmaceutical.

For those that have never been on this particular antipsychotic, even with a 1/5th of the dose I usually would have to take, my sleep is minimum 12 hours. I am a skinny fucker with a high metabolism by nature, my weight increased from about 145 to 210 pounds on it. I have to take a second pill to counteract a side effect that will have me wake up in a pool of my own drool without it. (Not just some on your face, imagine drenched pillow, face wet like you just went swimming.) I used to just suffer migraines, genetic. I now have cluster headaches that will last six plus hours . All to treat a condition that effectively doesn't manifest.

Sorry for the long post, there's just nobody I can actually completely say this to.
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Nathaniel Sunkinhood - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:20:15 EST VX0tZUmX No.30852 Reply
>>30851
Do ypu have clozapine? The side effects are really familiar. Try switching to something less heavy when you can desu.
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Nathaniel Sunkinhood - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:21:32 EST VX0tZUmX No.30853 Reply
>>30852
My bad for skimming and not reading. Try other meds. They will be a hit and miss but most can be better against symptoms and still give your lige back. Clozapine is usually a last resort. Plus the blood testing sucks.

quitting benzos

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- Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:51:03 EST JlXVkTxD No.30828
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i went into detox on jan 1st and was there for about a week, trying to taper off benzos. now im out and doing PHP at the same hospital (basically double intensive outpatient-6hrs a day). i was heavy on benzos for about a year and a half and thought i was invincible to the shitty withdrawals, but here i am, feeling like i'm about to have a seizure any minute. i really wanted to quit cold turkey (dangerous, i know) but the docs and therapists insist that I take at least 3mg ativan daily for now. I feel so guilty that i still have to take this shit just to not die bc ive already ruined many beautiful relationships and betrayed my familys' trust. idk where this is going i'm just fucking blogging at this point. but im looking for support, advice, or any other thoughts on benzo tapering/withdrawal. thanks guys
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Lydia Brookforth - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 08:38:45 EST vuXtU0Qy No.30843 Reply
>>30837
hey man good luck w your taper. i got switched from ativan to klonopin 0.5 mg twice a day, the doc said i'd probably finish the taper with valium. it's getting better, feeling less seizure-ish but the derealization and mental side effects are a bitch and a half.
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xamnyab - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 20:31:35 EST M0pRuPgq No.30845 Reply
>>30828
bro it sucks at the start, but if you're tapering it's not gonna have you dead, at play will b only the temptation, you will get restless nights, tremors, anxiety and other shit doe, but know it's temporary and for an greater good

you're strong bro, you can make it

Crack addiction

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- Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:47:44 EST OjzZETpJ No.30759
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I'm in process of letting go of a nasty habit I smoke crack I'm only 26 I feel like I've wasted to much time and accomplished nothing and am ready to move forward with my life and make progress anyone else quiting crack or have already done so that can give me pointers or advice to make thing a little easier for me
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Thomas Sandlepod - Sun, 22 Dec 2019 01:57:16 EST HYKlp/QU No.30773 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Graham Clenningfone - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 19:48:30 EST snQFFrjX No.30841 Reply
>>30759
All I see is abandon in everyone else’s eyes

Smoked as a kid once

smoke free 2020

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- Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:27:32 EST ns6a1Hz8 No.30808
File: 1578853652986.jpg -(116021B / 113.30KB, 1280x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. smoke free 2020
day 2 no nicotine
day 1 no THC
it's time to get clean :(
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Martha Smallbanks - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 12:59:46 EST ns6a1Hz8 No.30832 Reply
day 10 no nicotine
day 1 no THC :|
here we go again
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Edward Crishchit - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 18:23:53 EST nq1EvzfK No.30839 Reply
Lmao blame it on the C A N N A B I S

Yesterday we lost our lives, tomorrow we were born

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- Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:08:58 EST YMTDWCdA No.30834
File: 1579550938090.jpg -(924967B / 903.29KB, 3080x3850) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Yesterday we lost our lives, tomorrow we were born
Woke up sober today. It’s going to be like this for a long time.

What do you guys do when you’re bored?
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Nigel Gullyfield - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 03:20:56 EST Hhx08sE5 No.30835 Reply
>>30834
Things you could or would have been doing if you hadn't been stuck drinking daily.
Daily nightly drinking sucks all of your casual activities away. Even if you do stuff
when drinking, usually though your interest are occupied with drinking then feeling like crap the next day, so you don't do or accomplish much of anything until you stop for a while.

Hair test chall

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- Sun, 12 Jan 2020 20:53:21 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30812
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Any experience with hair test? Looking to land a student CDL job but pretty much every company hair test. Was a regular smoker as of November 12thish, smoked once on new year's and once again about 5 days ago. Will that set my ass back another 90 days? Probably going to pay for a test at LabCorp or some shit but super interested to hear thoughts
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Clara Chunnershit - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 07:01:20 EST qf7kl3cP No.30815 Reply
What's your question? Surely you can read the information on the test and know that the test is designed to catch people like you and remove you from the application process. So it's really working as designed.
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Isabella Gondledatch - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 12:09:19 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30816 Reply
>>30815
Yeah def can see that haha. That information online is fairly lackluster, heard people failed as far back as a year some say 90 days is good. Considering I'm close to about 60 days out from heavy usage with two smoke sessions over the past month wondering what kind of impact those two sessions would have, but more or less I'm wondering if anyone out there has had experience taking these type of tests and there success. Not looking for tips and tricks cause I rather go the patient route, but I find myself having difficulty leaving money on the table and almost would rather risk the bare minimum number of days required to start a solid career.

Also super regretting those couple tokes with the possibility of having been cleared of toxins within a 30 day period. You win some you lose some should have done more research prior to hitting the blunt but what's done is done

Drug test - need to test positive for methadone metabolites! Do they test concentration level?

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- Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:47:22 EST 5S0hrOIh No.29556
File: 1509565642259.jpg -(6540B / 6.39KB, 195x258) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Drug test - need to test positive for methadone metabolites! Do they test concentration level?
I need to pass a test on Friday. It is Wednesday right now. I need my urine to only test positive for methadone use as I am on a maintenance program and had a slip. If I give someone a very small amount of methadone will it show up properly on the test? I'm in Canada if that helps.

See, I plan to give a friend some methadone. They would prefer to not take much. I am on a fairly low dose myself (1.2ml aka 12mg)
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WilyMajin !8davHXfHRc - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:04:19 EST iTWMoxRs No.30805 Reply
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>>29556
I'll take your word for it
Keep of Koopa<[(@!)]
User is currently banned from all boardsUser is currently banned from all boards
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Augustus Neckleham - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:37:29 EST kcQvzvUD No.30806 Reply
If you had a slip, you need to go back in.
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Nell Bupperpet - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 21:54:00 EST NXWMINeU No.30807 Reply
>>30806 THIS

Seriously OP, this isn't like trying to get a job in fast food. Do you want the help or no? Tell them you fucked up.

The dreaded UA thread

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- Tue, 17 Dec 2019 15:54:52 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30768
File: 1576616092740.jpg -(42497B / 41.50KB, 512x512) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. The dreaded UA thread
haven't smoked in a month and about a week. 245 510. Shit diet, been lazing around alot aswell so I would be lying if I was to say I was active lately. However, I do drink about 2-3 gallons of water daily and always have. Plan on diluting anyhow but not subbing. What does Chan think my chances are? This isn't really a make a break but it would sure be nice. I know it's a 10 panel lab but don't know cuttof so let's assume it's 20ng..
I also posted in /weed/ just didn't know where to drop it. The Chan isnt nearly as active as it once was so plox keep in both
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Basil Grimfuck - Wed, 01 Jan 2020 18:35:45 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30794 Reply
>>30791
Yeah def OP here. Smoked a blunt on new years, first time smoking since I quit also probably the 'last'. I felt like I was tripping on mushrooms I was so fucking high. Besides that Gunna pay for a lab test in about 15 days and see how fast the one time cleans out. Probably report back again afterwards, end goal is a state job and probably should have denied the blunt.. but fuck it it's 2020
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Basil Grimfuck - Wed, 01 Jan 2020 18:38:27 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30795 Reply
>>30794
The job I got is simply to pay the bills. Job I want takes about 6 months to complete process so I figured worst case I have another 30 days if it comes to that before I must whip the ole cock out again.

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