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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

What made you get clean

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- Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:19:47 EST dpIO+886 No.30572
File: 1566242387427.jpg -(36396B / 35.54KB, 712x534) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What made you get clean
For those who have long term sobriety, what was the catalyst and how did you find the motivation and steps to lead a better life?
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KB - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:41:12 EST ZASTjFXm No.30617 Reply
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>>30604 I think there are two of us oldies about 70yr old on this thread. In case you are asking me about regrets well, no I had a great time and would not have missed it for the world, so to speak. But then I was lucky to not have a conviction, never found guilty in court. Pure luck and thus from 40 years old rebuilt a life, probably luck again but it happened. I also learned a lot about myself in the years after quitting, not immediately but around the 25 year mark to now. I have friends who also got clean and ended up in the rehab field, not a lot because most people die eventually but some cleaned up and in general I think their theories are full of shit, but that's me maybe, cant be told anything. Dope still is fascinating and that's why I read High Times back in the day and 420 chan these days. As said in previous posts over in opiate discussions (now page six) I became a punk and reveled in the scene and music. Without the Heroin addiction I might not have done that. I was a trained dancer and would be listening to Stravinsky not Las Vulpress or Iggy Pop. Regrets,I think my life is pretty good, love my job.
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KB - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:01:31 EST ZASTjFXm No.30623 Reply
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>>30621 Dear Dorkette, I posted here because it's a detox board and secondly was asked a question and proceeded to answer it. Having detoxed off smack 30 years ago Occasionally I might say something but not often.

Synthetic Urine for Drug Test Help.

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- Mon, 02 Sep 2019 16:30:16 EST R2loQZ16 No.30603
File: 1567456216583.jpg -(56949B / 55.61KB, 699x1513) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Synthetic Urine for Drug Test Help.
Has anyone used synthetic urine for a drug test? Did you pass or were you caught? I'm on methadone and have been using again (fuck me right) for the past 3 weeks and have a random test sometime this month. I'm desperate and considering buying the synthetic urine they have at my local smoke shop. The tests are not monitored and I'm not even sure there is a temperature test on it, I piss in a cup and bring it back to the front desk and it gets shipped somewhere else for testing. Anyone have experience with this? Or any other methods for passing a urine test? I was gonna pour a tiny bit of methadone into the fake urine and hope it works.
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Cedric Cleblingstock - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:37:20 EST Llutud8H No.30619 Reply
>>30603
Sounds like a stupid idea to me. If they're only urine testing you there's a bunch of other drugs you could get away with doing.

Recovery

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- Fri, 06 Sep 2019 16:10:15 EST h7kQqvlo No.30612
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I was told to come here because I want to post on a thread each day about my recovery from substance abuse.
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Reuben Blythehood - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:59:14 EST 9JPtlKo8 No.30614 Reply
how is it going? what supports have you got in place to help you through this? What is your action plan for when you feel like you are going to relapse?
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Oliver Credgedock - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:34:09 EST UjQ6AzP6 No.30615 Reply
Not OP, but I am also in recovery from opiates, including H - currently on Bupe maintenance. Oddly, I'm finding myself feeling like going on a binge, but not for Opi's, but for a stim of some sort! Obviously I know this would be a stupid thing to do, but that's on my mind a lot right now, despite not doing any stims for like 10 years! Anyway, hope you're doing ok OP - fell free to share experiences with us and any issues you're facing.

How fast does urine have drug dregs in it?

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- Thu, 05 Sep 2019 02:04:50 EST 7EQ3Ilr6 No.30610
File: 1567663490722.jpg -(1589833B / 1.52MB, 2880x2160) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How fast does urine have drug dregs in it?
Is your piss immediately contaminated? I smoked some meth, forgetting to save some piss first and then went like 5 min later. I can submit the piss tomorrow if it's clean, but if not I have my next UA in 5.5 days. I I'll prob be clean by then as I'm just doing like .2 grams today and tomorrow, and if there's a little it's not the end of the world, as I'm on subs and they just make me step up the counseling in my MAT program.
Any advice greatly appreciated.

QuickFix, Pain clinic, and Opis oh my

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- Thu, 22 Aug 2019 07:50:28 EST thbTr7Ld No.30575
File: 1566474628969.jpg -(8275B / 8.08KB, 225x225) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. QuickFix, Pain clinic, and Opis oh my
Hello, I have a new patient pain clinic appt scheduled in less than a week for serious legitimate reasons, although I've been using an old oxy IR script (different dr/insurance/6 months ago) due to my back pain, and am curious on a few things..

(Also my apologies if this isn't the correct board, figured it might be given the circumstances tho.)

I'm curious if QuickFix synthetic would work for pain mgmt urine tests?
Anyone have any insight on such uses? Or QuickFix or other products in general?

Also, how can I calculate the duration in which oxycodone will stay detectable in my urine based on amount and/or bmi?
(6'3'' 190lbs; only used for the past 2-3 days, but roughly 90-150mg a day)

Does kratom show up on pain management tests? Anyone have experience with pain doctors and kratom? Is it better to avoid mentioning the kratom?

Am I fucked? Chug water and might be okay?
Ty for any/all responses
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Nell Shakeshaw - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:24:28 EST c8Y5VlxS No.30576 Reply
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Depending on the type of pain, I recommend asking about baclofen. It's a muscle relaxer. It makes me really chill and warm and fuzzy and still able to function (except for hard physical labor).

If you just want to know about clean piss, first of all, /detox/. Second, I think opis are out of your system in three or four days. I don't think anybody tests for kratom so you can use that to stave off any withdrawals.
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Nell Shakeshaw - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:45:02 EST c8Y5VlxS No.30577 Reply
>>30576
Oh fuck this is detox. I thought I clicked on b.

Methadone treatment, can I use opiates while on methadone?

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 01:42:39 EST R2loQZ16 No.30557
File: 1565934159217.jpg -(86736B / 84.70KB, 892x1834) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Methadone treatment, can I use opiates while on methadone?
I've been on 110mg of methadone for about 8 months, and I'm wanting to use opiates. If I use other opiates, will I feel any effect at all? How long do I need to stop taking methadone before I can feel any effects?
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Charles Gommermig - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 02:09:17 EST h3k26bsg No.30565 Reply
>>30557
DId you feel methadone before? Isn't it like synethetic morphine of sorts?
If you don't get high on it, doen't mean other opiaods wll not get you high.

It does not nor is intended to make you not get high on opiates if you use them.

even if methadaone never got you high, it's still there. Some go from methadone clinic and do herion by default. As peroson said, it's dangerious to do so, and wouldn't. If you haven't, then why do so. You would almost cetainly feel the other opiate, likely not in a very much good way, it could definately and esailly backfire.

Shit you draw in sobriety

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- Thu, 06 Jun 2019 19:08:08 EST SWi5R6pH No.30405
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So surely there are artists and addicts both out there!

Post the shit you drew in sobriety to cope with being sober.

I got 7 pictures so far, will post more later.

I started doing these "podium drawings" because at my rehab, a dude would always share at a podium.

90 days sober.
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John Crommlebury - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:01:31 EST IFPTLOuA No.30534 Reply
>>30454
is this all your work? it's amazing man
can i follow you anywhere
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Albert Hivingson - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:06:34 EST GiiCgdne No.30555 Reply
hey these are all pretty good OP
stay strong!

1,4-butanediol taper

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- Mon, 12 Aug 2019 06:40:38 EST GawcegWN No.30554
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On a 1,4-butanediol detox. Have phenibut, Lyrica, and enough 1,4-butanediol to taper. Don't want to end up in the hospital. Will ask doctor for baclofen as a last resort. Can't really tell when the BDO is starting to wear off other than the stinging pains I get as a reminder that my blood pressure is spiking. How do I swing this?

SSRI DETOX

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- Thu, 08 Nov 2018 23:56:01 EST TiLbru36 No.30237
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Is there any way to speed up detoxing SSRI's from the body? Specifically Prozac.

I've started taking Vyvanse again and I've been on 40mg of Prozac, and I'm not getting nearly as many of the effects as I used to, and I have 0 tolerance. Apparently there's some sort of liver enzyme bullshit that Prozac is blocking, so tl;dr when I take it I only feel it for like an hour if that, then I just feel like I'm crashing for 8 hours.

Is there any way to get this out of my system faster? I know Prozac lasts fucking forever, but I was thinking maybe if I did cardio or drank a shit ton of water I could clean myself out faster. Been off it for about 2 days
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Cedric Chaddlemetch - Sun, 03 Mar 2019 06:36:30 EST 577CB8d1 No.30281 Reply
OP, are you still here? I'm off SSRI's after 7 years taking it but I was on Luvox. Brain zaps are disgusting and on 5th day I was feeling ike a zombie. Microdosing psilocybin mushrooms removed all negative side effects but I didn't have enough shrooms to take them every day for 2 weeks, so I just had to live through it.
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Fanny Greenshit - Sun, 03 Mar 2019 23:22:24 EST yo59Frw9 No.30282 Reply
>>30237
wish i could help, i tried prozac and it kinda instant serotonin head issues,
alcohol may help, clonazepam may help. may want to kcik the Vyvanse
for a while. I think that may a big contributing factor
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dr. m - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:18:51 EST hrseF5HX No.30533 Reply
>>30237

Nah dude. Prozac takes 5 days for half of it to leave your system, and then the half that breaks down takes another 7-15 days for half of THAT to leave your system. I was able to cold Turkey 20mg/day of Prozac with zero withdrawal. Now I only take 20mg prozac once a week and it works much better for me.

Alcohol Abstinence Thread

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- Tue, 22 Aug 2017 07:47:47 EST 5nT9NWqY No.29436
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Greetings /detox/.

After really admitting to myself how badly my alcohol addiction was affecting other aspects of my life, I have made a serious decision to stop usage for a while. I am going to document my journey in this thread to amuse the bored, encourage those who may be dealing with similar problems, and to keep myself focused and honest. If I slip up I will be honest as well.

Little background:
>Duration of alcoholism: 8 years
>Frequency of consumption: 5-7 days per week with no period of abstinence longer than 2 days
>Amount consumed per day: ~7oz of ethanol in an evening
>Affected aspects of life: work, school, relationships, hobbies, mental and physical health

I am currently on my fourth day with no alcohol and I am already seeing and feeling notable improvements in my body and mind. I will go over how each day felt.

>First 24 Hours
By far the worst. Not only from the withdrawals, but the knowledge that booze is not coming any time soon. Sweating, shaking hands, lack of appetite, insomnia, flushed skin, increased blood pressure, irritability, dark and disturbing dreams when sleep comes in fits

>24-48 Hours
The dandruff I started to notice over the past couple of months already looks almost completely cleared up, amazingly, as well as a few pimples on my face. Bloating of abdomen and general system-wide inflammation decreased. Belly size shrunk, clothes fitting looser. Appetite growing. Sleeping still difficult, but less sweating. Occasional faint auditory hallucinations.

>48-72 Hours
Getting more bearable. Starting to feel a tiny glimmer of hope that I can rise out of the hole I have dug. Shits are solid and don't smell sickly sweet. Further decrease in bloating and inflammation. Since digestive system has finally caught a break from continuous processing of toxic poison sludge (I mostly drink 40's containing HFCS), my appetite is extremely strong. Mind fog starting to lift. Almost scared at the resurgent cognition after removing CNS depressant. Like a muffled voice that can finally speak freely, my thoughts are racing almost faster than I can keep up.

>72-96 Hours
This is where I am now. Can't sleep tonight, I'll just pull an all-nighter and crash tomorrow night. After laying in bed awake for a few hours I decided to make this thread. My digestive system feels wonderful. You don't know how nice a solid poop is until you are a truly depraved alcoholic. My mind feels clear. I am looking forward to a nice big nutritious breakfast tomorrow since I won't be hungover and bloated and nibbling on toast. I am no longer perspiring abnormally, and the shakes in my hands are almost 100% gone, I can hold them very still like I used to.


I won't blog this shit every day, but every few days I'll update my detox thread for my own viewing later. Anyone has comments/questions, toss 'em in the thread.
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Henry Crushsin - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:29:12 EST zhgojll7 No.30512 Reply
>>29436

Nowhere near as long as you but I stopped after too much a few months ago and haven't looked back. Recently took up running too.. just a few days a week but I go out and try and stay out for an hour.. I'll stop to breathe or walk some distance and just sweat and sweat... its only added to the positive mental effects I achieved through stopping drinking. I feel much smarter and able to handle life since taking it up
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Henry Crushsin - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:33:28 EST zhgojll7 No.30513 Reply
>>30510
Thats a good idea actually
Just remember every time you try to stop. It builds up momentum. If you fail and drink you have more success the more times you try... it took me many times quitting to get it done for a significant period of time, but I'm glad I never gave up on trying.
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Frederick Buzzhall - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 05:55:25 EST WCBgob4/ No.30521 Reply
>>30510
>but when i know i am going to struggle with alcohol on a night, i trick my brain
>by hijacking my booze routine. i go down to the local gas station where i
>usually get booze, but instead i get a coffee/hot chocolate mixed 50/50 and
>a little snack or a sandwich.

That is a perfect way to change your routine, working it into another working routine.
Will go to a liquor store and think, I didn't drink last night, surely I can live another night without. Or when I usually get alcohol just by default, even late, and just think,
if I wait another hour, it will be too late to get some. Wake up in the AM and maybe think, that was definately a good move by not buying.

Ket addict to ultra runner on ketogenic diet

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2019 22:59:04 EST 00eHmqeF No.30496
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Seen this? He touches on a really important principle, that if you want to stop doing some kind of thing you need to find a suitable replacement. In his case he replaced a ket habit with ultra running and a specific diet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96VZFklUM_Q
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Ian Lightham - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:46:34 EST 5jBot1Wm No.30503 Reply
>>30502
Hey, same guy but assuming my ID will have changed due to different location today... To answer your questions - well in a nutshell I've been doing all of this for years now. I'm not shitting on what you're saying, but I've been there done all that. Now maybe that's enough for some people to quit their addictive behaviour, but for a lot of others it wont be. Looking for the underlying cause is stepping it up a level when the basic 'lifestyle changes' just dont cut it. I mean I've just been diagnosed with Bipolar (as said in my last post) and your reaction to that post is to question whether I get exercise and eat right?? I agree with some of the stuff you said as a general rule, but you shouldn't dismiss looking deeper into self for the underlying cause or for answers to problems.
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Fanny Blatherwell - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:47:39 EST 00eHmqeF No.30504 Reply
>>30503
No problems, I'm just offering advice. It worked for me (on my almost decade-long chronic anxiety). I don't know about bipolar disorder.
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Sidney Marringpodge - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 00:10:07 EST 8DF+rm4w No.30520 Reply
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That was a super chill video. Today I am 10 months clean from opiates, benzos and meth, and I've been really trying to look at some kind of healthy hobby. Skateboarding and swimming were what I had in mind

is there any hope to feel normal after years of amphetamine abuse?

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- Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:33:23 EST M1vf01ne No.30514
File: 1564414403200.jpg -(73197B / 71.48KB, 400x524) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. is there any hope to feel normal after years of amphetamine abuse?
Ive been clean from stims fot a couple of months now, and still dont feel anywhere close to normal. I blew a couple years of my life abusing vyvanse heavily, and occasionally other stims, and finally got fed up with it. Still not feeling close to normal is extremely discouraging and hellishly depressing. Im terrified that i have ruined my life, and i cant see myself living my life feel flat like this forever. i cant even take normal doses of stimulants without chest pains and other worrying symptoms either now, so i cant supplement the fucking dopamine i need either. i cannot go on like this much longer, if you guys have been through this and recovered please tell me... i really need some kind of hope tight now...
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Archie Suttingnudging - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:12:49 EST rl4uHNmE No.30515 Reply
Sorry to hear you're really struggling - I'm not familiar with stims as such. I mean I've dabbled with a few, but I'm no expert in this area - Opi's were my downfall! But in terms of trying to get the natural dopamine going again, i do know that l-tyrosine is a good supplement to take. Cant remember the exact science of it, but I think it somehow gets your body producing it's own dopamine again. If you aren't on any sort of antidepressant medication - also worth looking at 5htp too. Another good supplement which helps kickstart the good brain chemicals! All I can say is keep going with what you're doing and have hope! Things will get better as time goes on - but I know that's not going to help you now. Just try to remain positive if you can. Distract yourself with new hobbies, even some light to moderate exercise can help boost natural endorphins etc...
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Archie Humblenock - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:28:50 EST Pg8Ve1RV No.30516 Reply
I used to smoke meth on a regular basis for two years. It took about six months before i started to see positive signs.
Clean for four years now. Dont worry, You'll get there.
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Walter Dennerstog - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:52:05 EST oxhu8ilP No.30519 Reply
>>30514

I had the same thing as this >>30516 guy except euro speed and RCs instead of meth. Six months is the usual healing time after hard drug abuse. It doesn't mean you'll be normal after 6 months but you will feel much better. Just keep going and remember that actively bettering your life is a just as huge factor in regenerating as time. I know it's very hard, when the dopamine needed for motivation, which in turn is needed to start doing things actively is missing.

>>30515

The exact chemistry is that L-Tyrosine is converted to Levodopa, than that is converted to Dopamine. You don't need expensive supplements, tyrosine is one of the 20 amino acids found in proteins. Another one of those is phenilalanine which is converted to tyrosine in the body if needed. So OP eat lots of protein (meat, legumes, diaries, etc). Try to excercise. In the first few weeks you have to force yourself but it works wonders after that.

OP there is hope, lot of people came out of that pit before. It sucks major dicks now, but you'll get better and you'll be proud of yourself and maybe even a happy person.

BWD

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- Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:29:00 EST 1NUYf9VK No.30012
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Bump While Detox

On Green Tea + MangoPeach Juice rn, whoa brauh the room is stable and there's the faint smell of feces or burning acrylic as the nastiness is cleansed from my body.
Going to go meditate and head out to enjoy the festivities with a clean head. Probably should shower too.

BWD
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Jenny Durrynudge - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:51:03 EST 1Pc5zbPG No.30310 Reply
Run out of hash, admittedly I dont smoke much, 1 gram can last weeks, though I was doing codeine too and Naproxen both for pain, CBD ran out of and Im only eating fish, nuts, eggs, some greens, greek yogurt. My anti biotics course just finished. Im trying to be clean for a bit, hadnt fapped for a week and a half but was feeling highly strung and was so horny other night I ordered a fleshlight

On my fridge it says, No nicotine (was doing snuff), caffeine (gives me tmj), alcohol (self explanatory) sugar (trying to slim down)

So Im low carb no drink or drug atm, it kinda just happened, feel like I need to clean my system a bit. Will have a little drink and eat whatever over my bday next weekend, hope that doesnt mess up my hard work. Might have to get some hash (I can get bored) but that'll be all.

feeling kinda clean tbh feels good man :)
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Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:20:11 EST YaY2oWWS No.30482 Reply
>>30012
cold turkey from 4-8mg day suboxone and this fucking sucks everything hurts i just wanna be fucking done with this shit
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Angus Sushmere - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:02:41 EST S90C7mly No.30518 Reply
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i was not stoned for about half a year. from 15yo to 22yo.

i stumbled across ayahuasca

basically everything changed from this experience on. nowadays im really healthy, doing sports regularly and my lungs have recovered.

but from time to time you can find other drugs in my systems.

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