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THC(?) induced psychosis recovery

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- Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:31:35 EST GTv49qUp No.29947
File: 1528734695276.jpg -(25846B / 25.24KB, 540x304) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. THC(?) induced psychosis recovery
Four months ago, I was under some stress and was smoking marijuana weekly, despite it giving me panic attacks. I was foolish and uninformed, and I thought that the each joint would lessen the effects of the previous ones.

Then I smoked two joints in succession in a public place. This was followed by crippling panic attacks for two weeks straight, followed by two months of anxiety.

Now, I'd never been the anxious type. Completely calm, stable, pragmatic, emotionless even. I can/could deal with stress. No history of anything similar in either me or my family. The weed single-handedly triggered all this. Some dormant brain reaction, lurking, waiting for me to be fucking stupid enough to allow it to surface again and again, until it finally takes over completely.

I'd never dealt with anything even remotely similar, so it fucked me up. I felt like a toddler getting blindsided with a tire iron. In the first two weeks, during the panic, I completely lost touch with my old self, while in the following months I was trying to scramble my personality back together. Disorganized, strange thoughts, depersonalization, etc. It still feels like my IQ's dropped by 10 points.

I found this study about people recovering from what I'd experienced - substance-induced psychosis with no prior diagnosis of a psychotic illness. The outcomes weren't... hopeful:

>For this study, the investigators reviewed the long-term outcomes of all persons who received a diagnosis of substance-induced psychosis between 1994 and 2014 and had no prior diagnosis of a psychotic illness — a group of over 6,700 people. The diagnosis of drug-induced psychosis required symptoms lasting at least 48 hours — linked to intoxication with or withdrawal from the drug.

>Over a twenty-year follow-up period, about 41 percent of those who had a psychotic reaction to marijuana developed schizophrenia, and 47 percent developed either schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. About half of those who developed schizophrenia did so within 3.1 years, and half of those who developed bipolar disorder did so within 4.4 years.


WHAT? That leaves just 12% of people that *did* recover? Could I be one of those? I definitely don't have schizophrenia and I don't think I have BPD either, but I'm still depressed, anxious and feel different.

Post any similar stories/advice ITT
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Cyril Wacklesture - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 10:20:16 EST cXy+on2h No.30108 Reply
This happened to me one time a LONG time ago when I became Bi polar Nd wasn't on medication yet. I smoked 2 bowls that night, an hour went by. I couldn't stop the fucked up memories of growing up and the thoughts of killing the person who abused me for years, physical and verbal from entering my mind. I walked down the stairs of my house, walked by a lamp and table. Suddenly I snapped and fucking tore the whole living room up in a violent rage. I forget what happened after that. But, it's been about 10 years since and weed doesn't do that to me anymore since I've been medicated for my anger for a few years.

Whoever says weed cant cause psychosis or bring up any deep seeded mental Illness from within yourself and your mind, are ignorant fucks.
Molly Danderfield - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 22:41:39 EST iHiOPleG No.30141 Reply
did it weed give you psychosis since you have bpd? I always wondered about bpd and if you could be prone to it.
Albert Bendleridge - Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:36:32 EST Zi4uslZ+ No.30150 Reply
This happened to me several years ago. I was prescribed a heavy dose of adderral at the time. From my understanding, too much stimulants can cause "amphetamine psychosis" while using marijuana. I felt the after effects for months. I couldn't even smoke again until years later. It reminds me of a Jim Morrison quote: "any time you take drugs, you are making a bet with your mind." My psychosis was from the stims in concert with thc. It has been about 10 years since then and I get occassional paranoia. In my opinion, having a weed induced panic attack is not that different from having a bad trip on a psychedelic. I wouldn't read in to it too deeply. Its a rabbit hole and if you focus on it too much it will probably exacerbate things. Just try to live a healthy productive life style and take a break from the weed for year and you will likely be fine.

sober misery (posted on /qq/ aswell)

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- Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:01:54 EST Wi4D7hdy No.30144
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I posted this on /qq/ but I thought it might get a quicker response, and more relevant since everyone here's cold turkey:

I quit daily benzos and opiates about a year ago, have had the odd lapse but nothing beyond a day or two's use in that time. Since then, I feel worse and worse. I hate waking up in the morning, at my job I just want to smash everything up and scream, every day I'm counting the minutes til I can leave but then I feel the same way at home, I feel like I'm only resisting suicide for a bunch of selfish self-absorbed cunts who don't want to help me they just don't want to feel guilty if I did kill myself, there's nothing for me in the world I work a shit job I don't have any skills to get a different one, I don't have a girlfriend and I haven't had one or even had sex in three years, I had one perfect girlfriend and I fucked it up and pretty much every day I feel like screaming I just want to go back to the day we fell out and fix everything it's like my head's full of screaming every day I want to just run into the street and beat someone and just not stop until they're fucking dead I want disasters and plagues and terror attacks I want everyone to feel just as miserable and worthless as I do and I don't see how I can go on like this it's exhausting I just want to get back on the drugs or fucking die, all my friends have girlfriends and are getting places and it's pathetic and a miserable way of thinking but I fucking resent them for their happiness, I think their girlfriends are stuck up cunts who won't introduce me to their friends because they don't think I'm good enough for them and I can't even go to the pub because seeing them all happy makes me go home and cry all night and think about killing myself because I'm so fucking lonely and miserable, it's a disgusting attitude but I really want them to break up I can't feel happy for my friends any more and that's not right - I'm dreading christmas, I don't want to go and sit around with my family and hear about what's going right for them, I don't want to sit there conscious that the fat self-important smug prick I call a cousin has a girlfriend and I don't, I just want to follow someone at night and just smash their head in and make them feel helpless and scared like I do, I keep wanting to just smash a bottle and drag it all over my body I have done in the past and it's like the external pain drowns out what's in my head if it's painful enough but I know I can't do that again it's driving me mad I just have all this unpleasant energy in me that I can't get out I don't feel like there's anyone out there for me my friends will all have nice happy families and I'm just going to live in some shithole house with nobody and nothing and they'll all forget about me I feel like if I have to be me and stay alive for everyone else's sake then I don't see why I shouldn't spend my life high it's not fair to have to be a fucking loser and be viscerally aware of it every day

I don't even know what I'm asking or what the point is in this. I guess seeing if any other ex-addicts had/have a similar feeling, wondering if it passes or not. I suppose I just wanted to vent
Doris Sevingmirk - Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:18:13 EST uZJkwyR4 No.30148 Reply
You have depression, it's knowed now whats your problem.
give out of your city, start a new life, make new friends and find another girl. Give out of the country if u want, you're alone right? so you can. These guys who have a girlfriend and will start a family marriage are fucked and trapped in it, different of you. Start a new life and make another something else like you did with drugs, with money, be addict for it, try to be rich about it. Have so things to live for; Status, power, money, and u want to die because of PEOPLES? if u are alone you can make different, you ever'ill can change, make these choice. What you write remember me a depressiv disturbing movie, like guinea pig, WTF life are you creating. Try to win anything nice in these fucking shit what you built right now.
Nell Bluzzlehood - Fri, 21 Sep 2018 23:00:34 EST XRL9GJ8b No.30149 Reply
Do you drink, OP? If you are a regular drinker it can cause a lot of the problems you are describing. I can tell you first hand. I have been there.
Hugh Nicklegold - Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:09:49 EST /rdNQGSC No.30170 Reply
Dude you are high as fuck giving advice about sobriety lmao

Benzo wihdrawl

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- Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:40:22 EST pwqqRz9j No.30116
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I posted this on /benz/ but figured you guys could help too

o i've been taking relatively large (unmeasured powder but i do have a mg scale and have weighed it a few times so i can eyeball decently, doesn't excuse my laziness for not measuring it out every time or making a solution). I'd say between 4-8mg daily for about a month now.

I know I am 100% physically dependent now and currently using alp powder as the etiz was unavailable.

However, when I wake up I honestly don't notice any withdrawl symptoms. Even at 5pm today i didn't necessarily feel any benzo withdrawl (i also take vyvanse and the crash from that never feels pleasant) but I did the toothpick method with the alp cause im terrified of having a seizure.

Would i feel a seizure come on or could it just happen out of the blue, like would my w/ds get progressively worse or could a seizure happen even if i felt fine physically?

Also best way to taper etiz?
Albert Duvingbick - Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:39:05 EST P+lChTbV No.30145 Reply
Those aren't big doses or lengthy duration. Everyone is different, but I wouldn't think a seizure likely and a taper from that would be easy for me maybe even cold turkey. To be on the safe side do a 1 or 2 week taper if you can substitute the etiz or alp for something longer acting like the golden standard diazepam/diclazepam or clonazePAM. Be aware of the build up of metabolites due to the longer acting effects. The Ashton Manual can guide you https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm and there are support forums for benzodiazepines. Don't worry too much, smoke if you feel it is appropriate and stay away from alcohol.

Has anyone quit guys and gal's

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- Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:32:19 EST QWeDtNLX No.30136
File: 1536766339411.jpg -(72040B / 70.35KB, 717x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Has anyone quit guys and gal's
I haven't seen anyone in this forum say they have actually given up the drugs. All seem to be switching from one thing to another to cut back or give up something else, or to pass a drug test for employment. Maybe if one went straight there would be no need to come back here and say so. No one will congratulate you. The few 12 steppers are ridiculed for being brainwashed and/or in a cult although it may be said they stop if you believe them.
If I may give an opinion I'd say it's the dopers who are in a cult and you'll drink the 'cool aid'. The cult is the media. That song by the Kaiser Chiefs Never Miss a Beat says it all. Drugs do change your mood (emotions etc) and it is short term and wears off. But why not change yourselves. Long term and lasting. Anyone out there who has succeeded? How did you actually give up. I hear from psychologist friends that the success rate of stopping substance abuse is 2.5%. The 12 steppers say the long term is Jails institutions and death whereas in my experience most I have known simply become alcoholics and complain about how badly off and mistreated they are.
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David Blannerwater - Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:46:30 EST YwZpcCaL No.30139 Reply
What specific drug is running rampant in Iran? I'm curious now. Enlighten me.
Observerperver - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:26:10 EST ZASTjFXm No.30140 Reply
>>30139 I believe it is smack from my recollections. I'll try and obtain more information if you wish although this may take a while due to my being extremely busy. But I can find out from Psych friends. Patience grasshopper..


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- Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:54:25 EST G1aVshVp No.29965
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How do you guys deal with the post smoking lack of attention, anxiety, depression, and boredom post smoking? After 5 months without smoking I realized I still felt like shit. Didn't feel as physically poisoned and sickly as being a chainsmoker, but still. Is this normal? It feels like a low grade version of how I've heard kicking heroin described. It's bad enough I'm almost considering going back just to feel more with it and productive again.
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John Clepperspear - Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:30 EST p8wgo5ss No.30121 Reply
He's not talking about the addiction phase, obviously it's hard to quit at that point. He's talking about when people first start smoking, despite hearing about all of its bad effects and being previously warned not to. You can try and defend it, but there's no logical defense. It's just fucking stupid. Simple as that.
Lillian Heblingferk - Mon, 03 Sep 2018 02:05:42 EST x6r76l6R No.30125 Reply
Eh, just keep on with not smoking. Regardless. On my moms side of rality all of her friends she grew up with, all pretty much smoked. They are just plain dying left and right. Smoke and dye feeling like shit, or chance it and not smoke and eventually feel like everything is cool.
Stay away from people who smoke, that is what gets me suddenly feeing crappy, where smoking a cig would seem like things would feel Ok again.
Cyril Mannerstotch - Sun, 09 Sep 2018 06:08:03 EST git3aj67 No.30129 Reply
Peer pressure and suggestibility are strong things. It's not stupidity. It's just a lack of understanding of how strong the influences that affect us really are.

speed detox 2.0

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- Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:46:48 EST uh78kIBu No.30123
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how does speed (not meth) detox affect things and feel
and how long does it take.
i have some benzos to weaken the effects what else could you suggest.
been on it for like 2 years and have some final exams in 2.5 months which i have to learn effectifly for, does it even make sense to detox now?
Jenny Cammlestone - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:46 EST rByY0b28 No.30127 Reply
I would say it's better to stay on it and detox after the exams

Having someone else pee

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- Mon, 03 Sep 2018 18:24:27 EST 4AIuxZRr No.30126
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What can they identify off the toxicological results about the one who peed?
Who would be the best candidate to pee in my place?

(I can bring results without anyone checking whether it was me who peed or not, so I'll take advantage of that hehe)


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- Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:27:32 EST Oz9cRT8I No.29863
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It's going to be OK. Let go and let God. Do you have a higher power in your life yet? It can be anything. Alcoholism is a spiritual disease man. Please turn to page 153 of the Big Book ($25 by the coffee table that is one of the traditions we don't take donations). This completes my 240 hours of community service. I'm out of this bitch. Got to go and pay $3000 to get this fucking interlock removed.
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Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:48:53 EST pwqqRz9j No.30119 Reply
i did the same thing on a much smaller scale 6 months total sobriety living in recovery house cause i was strung out on heroin.

As soon as i moved out of the sober house I smoked weed and just smoke weed and take benzos occasionally (which i know is playing with fire) and in November ill have a year off dope
Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:50:06 EST pwqqRz9j No.30120 Reply
btw the benzo use turned into an everyday thing which is not good but luckily i have the means to a constant supply but would like to taper off ASAP


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- Sun, 26 Aug 2018 01:09:18 EST qV11Dc3q No.30109
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What is it like taking one capsule of 1000 mg of Niacin? Bad? Good?

This could either go here or under benzos, but..
Long story short, I got a DUII for marijuana. In diversion currently which requires me to take treatment classes. In these classes they do drug tests each class, which is weekly. Sometimes the tests are weekly, sometimes they skip one, you really don't know.
Being stupid, this morning I stumbled across my old anxiety/depression prescriptions from like 2 years ago. Thought hm why not, I might feel a bit better; been stressing lately because of money shit and other personal issues. I took 2 tablets of 1 mg of clonazopam and 1 tablet of 10 mg of lexapro. Shortly after, realizing those would show up on the test. Tried to vomit them out, no luck.
I figure I'm going to be tested Friday, but my plan this week is to just drink a ton of water throughout the week. I bought a jar of niacin capsules a while ago to try and clear weed from my system. The capsules are 1000 mg though and I'm reading that's usually the max daily. I've read conflicting things like its okay, its not advised, its painful, its pleasant. I'm just looking for insight I guess.

Is this a good idea?
James Brunnerville - Sun, 26 Aug 2018 08:00:32 EST GjQtgtw2 No.30110 Reply
You're going to experience the flushing, itchiness etc if you haven't already been used to taking B3, Also you really don't want to over do it on that shit you'll fuck up your liver or worse, take 500mg everyday while exercising, staying hydrated and it may help you pass your drug test, but tts not guaranteed. Also Clonazepam only stays in your system for 2 days, and i doubt they are testing for SSRIs so im confused what you're worried about?

Geodon 40mg withdrawal

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- Sat, 25 Aug 2018 02:23:58 EST HDOwOJoP No.30106
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First night of quitting after reducing from 40mg twice a day. Feels like a mushroom or acid comedown, seems to be dopaminic, very flu like symptoms, this should be interesting. Anyone else detoxing from antipsychotics? Cheers and have some aluminium fingers for your time.

Weed Emergency flush!!!

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- Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:46:35 EST l5xMuAwA No.30101
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Hey, /detox/. I recently enrolled in school to become an EMT. I have been a regular weed smoker (I wouldn't say heavy maybe a bowl or two a day) for the past few years. Only problem is first day of class, they announced they are going to piss test us soon. They never mentioned any shit like this but I am shitting my pants. I knew they would eventually but not at the very fucking beginning I stopped on Monday (Aug 20) and was smoking kinda lightly before that because I was almost out of weed. I have been chugging gallons of water and eating a lot of fruit. I am about to pick up niacin supplements. Do you guys have any ideas for this situation? Or should I just choose the hail mary and go for the fake piss? I may have another day or two. Maybe till next monday.
Basil Wodgeham - Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:51:16 EST iyxJnw7G No.30102 Reply
If a week at best, use a daily real peoples piss. Figure out how they test. Had to be tested back as a Juvenal. This guy would sit merely a foot away from the toilet at eye level and could see and would deliberately splatter piss on hit face. He obviously liked it so I tried other methods to make him hate to be around me at any given time.

Especially giving UAs. Apparently a few would just piss on him. Oopps.

Anyway, If you have some privacy do try clean urine r if fake works, do that.
Not having somebody actively observing you, just practice and be confident.
Don't fuck up an easy scenario.

A week, may be cutting it overly close. Just as well they may not test for weeks.

Recovery / Mental Health Discord

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- Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:31:14 EST K93bMCjm No.30095
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I started a Discord server as the basis for an outreach for drug users in need of some sort of help, but who may not feel comfortable with any more formal treatment setting. The idea is that it's entirely peer run and without judgement. It's not about 100% sobriety, it's about watching each others' backs as much as possible, because not everybody can afford treatment; not everybody wants to go to AA/NA, and not everyone is ready to make a commitment for the rest of their life, but we all could use some help once in a while.

I invite anyone to come, those who have some clean time already, those who don’t but want to get there, or anyone grappling with all of the mental and physical health issues that surround substance abuse. We’re here to help in any way we can, from offering potential tools for recovery to just having someone to talk to on a bad day or a good one.

We are trying to foster an easygoing openminded community with an emphasis on not having a particular agenda. We’re not affiliated with AA, NA, SMART, Refuge or any other program. Any and all treatment perspectives are welcome as long as we’re all lifting each other up, not putting anyone down, or putting any specific treatment on a pedestal. From information, to resources, to coping skills, whatever works for the you, we have a place to share it with others.

And anything that’s not working for you is why we’re here to help! Drop by anytime :) https://discord.gg/KNzz9Wk

P.S. If you have any suggestions on how to improve things feel free to submit them.

Treatment Center fucking me around

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- Sat, 14 Jul 2018 23:57:50 EST F1UDU73h No.30036
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WOW, so this is what happened to me today, I show up to my treatment center after work, wasn't able to go home and shower and get the weed smell off my person. My Current Counselor tells me that I won't be allowed to join todays class because it's "triggering" to people who are recovering. I try to Compromise and rush over to the Krogers next door to buy a can of spray deodorant so I don't smell like cannabis. After doing this and spraying myself with about half the fucking can and going in to see if I wasn't smelling like ganja anymore, she tells me she'll be able to let me participate. I go outside. NOT EVEN FIVE MINUTES GOES PAST AND SHE RETRACTS HER STATEMENT. I now have a second strike against me and technically because of this I violated the contract I signed with her because I accidentally missed a UA one sunday because of confusion on cutoff time. BECAUSE OF THIS I RISK GOING TO JAIL AND NOT BEING ABLE TO COMPLETE MY DIVERSION. I'm fucking pissed, and I feel like she is unjustly discriminating against me because of my job in the cannabis industry. I understand that it may trigger some people, but I did more than enough to try and accomodate this pompous fat cunt.

I plan on calling the director tommorow and Telling my side of the story, and if she doesn't want to work with me, then I may look into getting a lawyer and am thinking i might need to switch treatment centers. What do you guys think?
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Charlotte Tootwell - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:50:25 EST cXy+on2h No.30051 Reply
Wow what a cunt. Sounds like you're being discriminated and in your case I'd do the same thing and talk with the director.

But, all methadone clinics are filled with staff there who truly don't give a fuck about the recovering addicts and are assholes. I was in a clinic for two years. Place was a fucking joke. So I know how you feel.
Fucking Branningforth - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:40:46 EST bTvU4UAH No.30083 Reply
I like how they call it a class. The recovery industry is such a gigantic scam it's insane.
Fucking Branningforth - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:42:22 EST bTvU4UAH No.30084 Reply
He has a legal job working with drugs. His counsellor and you should jump off a building together

Weed: Degenerate shit for soyim

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- Sat, 30 Jun 2018 20:52:47 EST kDE2sVDK No.30000
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Weed raises Estrogen levels:

Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):




Weed Smokers Have More Violent Convictions:

Weed Causes Cancer:




Weed Reduces Volume Of Various Regions Of The Brain And Negatively Effects Motivation:

Weed Is Addictive:
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Sidney Wedgeson - Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:55:55 EST faFEhEXC No.30063 Reply
I agree weed sucks but far-right memes are just as damaging to your brain IMO.
Beatrice Hoffingmidge - Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:03:20 EST tlKfe1RT No.30065 Reply
I got my testosterone tested because I thought I might be low test because I'm a generally meek and diffident person with lots of anxiety and I can't grow a beard in my mid 20's, but it turns out my test is over 1000 which is higher than normal and I smoke hella weed. Don't buy into this testosterone determines personality crap because it's not true.
George Shittingwell - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:30:43 EST GjQtgtw2 No.30078 Reply
This, on the flip side I've known someone who was an aggressive, hyper-masculine right-winger who was kinda jacked (physically) and he confided in me that he had to get testosterone supplements in his 20s cause he had genetically inherited low -t and his hair was falling out.

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