Benzodiazepines: A story of love, memory, and the pending doom View Thread Reply Hide Nigel Tootcocke - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:30:42 EST WpuPBHYJ No.30247 File: 1543023042682.jpg -(172519B / 168.48KB, 960x810) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I started in 2016. Following some horrible life events, I placed a clearnet order for etizolam. I should have seen a doctor. I should have heeded the warnings. But after what I went through I couldn’t handle sleeping one hour a night for weeks on end.No, wait, let’s jump back four years. I dated a girl with a clonazepam script which she seldom used. I would occasionally take 1-2mg. I never had a problem. I had a problem with other drugs, but not benzodiazepines. It is a fact rarely disputed in the medical or harm reduction communities that while occasional benzodiazepine use is safe, long-term use can bring on withdrawals that are “worse than heroin.”Now, let’s set the record straight. I’ve done enough heroin to develop an addiction. Benzodiazepines are worse. Prolonged use, even at therapeutic doses of benzodiazepines, can result in months of acute withdrawal and years of post-acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS).From etizolam I found clonazolam. I never really liked it, but I would cut it up onto very tiny doses (well-aware of the dangers of hot spots in vendor-pressed 1mg pills of anything). And after a year or so, I started to wake up unable to see.Really. Etizolam has a quite short half-life, so taking it and going to bed for 8 hrs is enough to wake up with your hands involuntarily shaking, your eyes misprocessing reality - I don’t know if they were seizures, but they might as well have been. From there, I reached out for help online.I spent hours each day researching taper schedules, reviewing equivalency charts, methodically planning my mathematical reduction to zero.And I still failed. It took 12mg diclazepam - the equivalent of 120mg diazepam - to finally stabilize. But everyone in my life could tell, from my past behavior to my new I-just-don’t-give-a-fuck attitude followed by random extreme panic attacks when I made dose reductions.I did eventually seek out medical help. I couldn’t get past 3mg diclazepam (but I went 12->3 myself!). So I started calling psychiatrists. And rehabs. I had people tell me a taper is crazy, that it just keeps you addicted longer (if a psychiatrist or mental health counselor ever tells you this, review the Ashton Manual and run the other way. Consult a real doctor). Eventually I found someone.I’ve done well with 15% or so reductions every few months. Stable, holding down a job, starting to regain love in life and hobbies and everything I had before my life fell apart.PSA: avoid daily benzodiazepine use. It is fundamentally unsafe.I’ll write more as time provides. 1 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Fucking Hublinghall - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 19:19:54 EST Dswgp8IR No.30268 Reply >>30247I came off a 3 year multiple-bar a day habit summer 2016 and STILL feel weird. A couple weeks ago my fucking back left upper molar CHIPPED because I grind my teeth NON STOP >> Hedda Cravingworth - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 15:15:45 EST 6FvdO/Lk No.30271 Reply holy fuck >> Dundun - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 06:35:28 EST Z2OQyIBq No.30508 Reply >>30247For all I know I'm the OP cause my addiction was similar but I don't remember anything. I'd also experience those shakes. I agree they felt like seizures. Eventually I did have a grand Mal seizure. Fucking sucks.
>> Fucking Hublinghall - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 19:19:54 EST Dswgp8IR No.30268 Reply >>30247I came off a 3 year multiple-bar a day habit summer 2016 and STILL feel weird. A couple weeks ago my fucking back left upper molar CHIPPED because I grind my teeth NON STOP
>> Dundun - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 06:35:28 EST Z2OQyIBq No.30508 Reply >>30247For all I know I'm the OP cause my addiction was similar but I don't remember anything. I'd also experience those shakes. I agree they felt like seizures. Eventually I did have a grand Mal seizure. Fucking sucks.
How do I get cleaned? View Thread Reply Hide Beatrice Gellybire - Thu, 16 May 2019 18:33:34 EST mYIVlqFO No.30385 File: 1558046014272.jpg -(35784B / 34.95KB, 528x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Okay. I do lot of drugs. Not like in a totally self destructive way, but I tend to get lazy and then sit around and then do drugs to not go insane just sitting around, and then I start doing drugs to put up with the drugs that I did earlier. It's stupid. Mostly a bad habit. I just need a bit of help really. Like an AA sponsor that I can call and talk to when I crave. I just need to break the cycle for like a week. How do I do that? How do I get an AA/NA sponsor? How do I get help? I don't know why but I'm really bad at this it's like a curse I don't know what to do 3 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Jack Crundlekat - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 05:20:45 EST m3QXNeGX No.30499 Reply >>30490AA a cult. I can buy that. The sayings, if not said already. One is, if you have one foot in the past and one in the future you are pissing on today. So basically you are going nowhere, if you don't recognize your past, which it says to do, by apologozing those you have possibly harmed in the past, which at times cannot really be done. Sorry already very drunken person, for that time I hit you when you did whatever that was way out of line. Explanation, there is none. How does one apologize forsome other drunks antics, which you were as bad. One I could say is family friends who do not drink, where you were out of line. No active sponsor, longtime advocate of 30 in 30, group so-called moderator or leader I have ever listened to could explain apologizing to somebody who is just as much an ass or even more than they ever were and make 'amends.'In all, it is just a circle of nothing. where people bicker like drunks over simple and quite straightforward meaningful statements as being wrong. Higher class meetings are obviously different than the hardcore idiot groups that at least one out of a few has woken up with a black eye at least a few times.Medicaid will or should pay for most alcohol treatment, in patient outpatient. Medical detoxes as well in most states. Psychiatry, treatment centers that specialize with drug alcohol abuse.Which are likely best bet for privacy. There are county/state run places, but your confidentiality is maybe not so confidential. So especially county state places, especially. Tread lightly on you usage and past details. Private run places may ask about drug usage and possible criminal records. They may say you don't have to answer these. So tread lightly and not go overboard and spill your life story until you feel you have a trust relationship. The if wanted, if you think it helps get a bit deeper.If questions seem very awkward in nature in the scope of things. Do keep thinking. If mostly jobless, paid under the table. Your should qualify for medicaid. If you do not have medicaid, regardless, do get it. Like call tomorrow. Today. If ever have an accident, a hospital may charge $1000s for at times doing basically nothing. If wanted drugs that help with alcohol opiate usage can be prescribed and a co-pay is like two bucks. So seek a primary care Dr, and a specialist psychiatrists, addiction center and get things rolling. As the Ziggy Marly tune goes;Tomorrow will never comeTomorrow is never hereSo don't you put off what we can do right now'Cause tomorrow will never appeartodaytoday Comment too long. Click here to view the full text. >> David Suckleridge - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:44:29 EST rl4uHNmE No.30506 Reply >>30499I think I'm understanding what you were getting at? There was some good advice in that - but it sort of looks like you had a mind-dump moment whilst amped up on stims or something? It reads very 'speedy' and all...Anyway anyone is welcome here - this board is dead as fuck! We need more people inputting in this place for sure!! For me - I've never done the AA /NA thing, but I do go to a group recovery programme which I find very helpful. Just working through your own shit and listening to others with similar experiences makes me feel like I'm not just this one freak. It makes you realise so many people from different backgrounds deal with substance abuse and addiction. Theres a comfort I take from that - the whole 'you are not alone' vibe... >> Cedric Brundleshaw - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:39:58 EST RTcDtcVf No.30507 Reply >>3050612 steps, one is making amends to people you have harmed when you were drinking. When possible. The step is basically unachievable. Some people don't want top see you or you may not want to see them. So the cult as is said, many of the long-timers will say, well you cannot get past this step, you did not make enough effort. If one says, I finished this (certain) step, they may get totally dumped on. Hearing, no you didn't. Your lying to us and you are lying to yourself, you have not acquired that step. Where it would seem that the person felt comfortable sharing his feelings of accomplishment. This may turn into nothing but just reaming on the person for big part of the meeting. My guess leaving the person to just go, screw it, gonna buy a bottle. Where a person gets highly praised saying they 'relapsed and drank for days and this was their first meeting sense.
>> Jack Crundlekat - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 05:20:45 EST m3QXNeGX No.30499 Reply >>30490AA a cult. I can buy that. The sayings, if not said already. One is, if you have one foot in the past and one in the future you are pissing on today. So basically you are going nowhere, if you don't recognize your past, which it says to do, by apologozing those you have possibly harmed in the past, which at times cannot really be done. Sorry already very drunken person, for that time I hit you when you did whatever that was way out of line. Explanation, there is none. How does one apologize forsome other drunks antics, which you were as bad. One I could say is family friends who do not drink, where you were out of line. No active sponsor, longtime advocate of 30 in 30, group so-called moderator or leader I have ever listened to could explain apologizing to somebody who is just as much an ass or even more than they ever were and make 'amends.'In all, it is just a circle of nothing. where people bicker like drunks over simple and quite straightforward meaningful statements as being wrong. Higher class meetings are obviously different than the hardcore idiot groups that at least one out of a few has woken up with a black eye at least a few times.Medicaid will or should pay for most alcohol treatment, in patient outpatient. Medical detoxes as well in most states. Psychiatry, treatment centers that specialize with drug alcohol abuse.Which are likely best bet for privacy. There are county/state run places, but your confidentiality is maybe not so confidential. So especially county state places, especially. Tread lightly on you usage and past details. Private run places may ask about drug usage and possible criminal records. They may say you don't have to answer these. So tread lightly and not go overboard and spill your life story until you feel you have a trust relationship. The if wanted, if you think it helps get a bit deeper.If questions seem very awkward in nature in the scope of things. Do keep thinking. If mostly jobless, paid under the table. Your should qualify for medicaid. If you do not have medicaid, regardless, do get it. Like call tomorrow. Today. If ever have an accident, a hospital may charge $1000s for at times doing basically nothing. If wanted drugs that help with alcohol opiate usage can be prescribed and a co-pay is like two bucks. So seek a primary care Dr, and a specialist psychiatrists, addiction center and get things rolling. As the Ziggy Marly tune goes;Tomorrow will never comeTomorrow is never hereSo don't you put off what we can do right now'Cause tomorrow will never appeartodaytoday Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>> David Suckleridge - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:44:29 EST rl4uHNmE No.30506 Reply >>30499I think I'm understanding what you were getting at? There was some good advice in that - but it sort of looks like you had a mind-dump moment whilst amped up on stims or something? It reads very 'speedy' and all...Anyway anyone is welcome here - this board is dead as fuck! We need more people inputting in this place for sure!! For me - I've never done the AA /NA thing, but I do go to a group recovery programme which I find very helpful. Just working through your own shit and listening to others with similar experiences makes me feel like I'm not just this one freak. It makes you realise so many people from different backgrounds deal with substance abuse and addiction. Theres a comfort I take from that - the whole 'you are not alone' vibe...
>> Cedric Brundleshaw - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:39:58 EST RTcDtcVf No.30507 Reply >>3050612 steps, one is making amends to people you have harmed when you were drinking. When possible. The step is basically unachievable. Some people don't want top see you or you may not want to see them. So the cult as is said, many of the long-timers will say, well you cannot get past this step, you did not make enough effort. If one says, I finished this (certain) step, they may get totally dumped on. Hearing, no you didn't. Your lying to us and you are lying to yourself, you have not acquired that step. Where it would seem that the person felt comfortable sharing his feelings of accomplishment. This may turn into nothing but just reaming on the person for big part of the meeting. My guess leaving the person to just go, screw it, gonna buy a bottle. Where a person gets highly praised saying they 'relapsed and drank for days and this was their first meeting sense.
Kicking tobacco habit View Thread Reply Hide Wesley Gonkinwell - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:21:32 EST ty/XcoUw No.30484 File: 1563312092274.jpg -(652979B / 637.67KB, 1200x1926) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How to get clean of this satanic plant? I've put down all kind of evil shit, from booze through benzos to chinese synthetic poisons like a-pvp, chminaca, etc. speed, dxm, ssri's, ether, everything. But i can't fucking get rid of cigarettes for the fucking life of me. I tried it a million times and nothing worked so far. When i get that feeling that i need a smoke, i'm ready to fuck up the world just to get that lame subtle nicotine pseudorush. Please give me advice! >> Charles Narringsit - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:35:22 EST rl4uHNmE No.30488 Reply >>30484Where are you from? I know Wellbutrin (think that's how you spell it) which is technically an antidepressant, actually works well when taken at smaller doses for quitting smoking. I dont think its necessarily called that brand always, the underlying compound of that brand name is what you should look into, but here in the UK, although it's not licensed as an antidepressant like in the USA, it is licensed under a different brand name as a smoking cessation treatment. Sorry the detail is missing, but hopefully I've given you enough so you can look up for yourself and decide if it's an option for you and in your country.... >> James Pindlewere - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:57:53 EST fGnWRCNh No.30489 Reply >>30488it's called bupropion. thanks for the advice i'll ask my doctor if she can prescribe it. >> Phyllis Brammerpire - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 23:33:41 EST 8xt5xq9D No.30505 Reply >>30484make a demonic pact with Belial for something you really want in exchange for your addiction. Worked for me, js.
>> Charles Narringsit - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:35:22 EST rl4uHNmE No.30488 Reply >>30484Where are you from? I know Wellbutrin (think that's how you spell it) which is technically an antidepressant, actually works well when taken at smaller doses for quitting smoking. I dont think its necessarily called that brand always, the underlying compound of that brand name is what you should look into, but here in the UK, although it's not licensed as an antidepressant like in the USA, it is licensed under a different brand name as a smoking cessation treatment. Sorry the detail is missing, but hopefully I've given you enough so you can look up for yourself and decide if it's an option for you and in your country....
>> James Pindlewere - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:57:53 EST fGnWRCNh No.30489 Reply >>30488it's called bupropion. thanks for the advice i'll ask my doctor if she can prescribe it.
>> Phyllis Brammerpire - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 23:33:41 EST 8xt5xq9D No.30505 Reply >>30484make a demonic pact with Belial for something you really want in exchange for your addiction. Worked for me, js.
how to quit weed less painfully View Thread Reply Hide Isabella Clishfuck - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 05:48:44 EST yV/S+9Pc No.30462 File: 1562320124837.png -(667977B / 652.32KB, 1712x1038) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. vaping like 3-6g a day whenever i get it asap just cos i can, i have no impulse control been smoking for about 5+ years nonstop and i need to stop but don't want to. what do you do after your fun receptors are so burnt out, i want to have fun with things again like when i was a kid 2 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Ian Fiddlebanks - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 00:39:35 EST yV/S+9Pc No.30466 Reply >>30464thankyou for the honestysometimes i have really great sober experiences like last night, where i really did feel like i did before i started smoking, then get really hype that i'm gonna quit but within 2-3 days i think i can handle it again and just restart weed, meaning i barely ever get to that week/month of no THC that makes you feel a lot better. i also have aspergers and weed became a habit/self med very quick.i need to remember that even if i did get weed i wouldn't enjoy it, it's literally the looking forward to weed that is more hype at this point and hoping it'll be like the first time, then getting disappointed when vaping a q in a day does barely anything. >> Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:10:46 EST YaY2oWWS No.30479 Reply >>30461honestly just go on a trip somewhere for a week or two. dont bring bud with you. that's what worked for me a while back. althought i did relapse and im back on that shlab train but god it would be nice to not do this every day >> Doris Mublinggold - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 21:19:27 EST Xj9sIgGL No.30495 Reply >>30462its a marathon, not a race. In order to complete a marathon, some degree of motivation is needed. Not wanting to quit is normal, it feels good in the short term, so ur brain is like man, when it feels so good, why shouldnt I? Been in your shoes although for 10years. For me, my tipping point was when I started to sell in order to fund my own addiction. I had access to more than normal, combined with less clients to turn a profit. Then I smoked so much that I didnt even get high even though it was the dankest dank I ever had. Also witnessing my childhood friends being literally useless stone-heads made me ask myself; is this how I wanna live? My connection's constant bad mood also motovated me alot, I dont wanna end up as a raging idiot who misunderstands everything and over-reacts to petty trivial shit. Im only a week sober, but this time I will not re-lapse. I have had long breaks before, but as soon as I go for "1 J only" Im suddently back on the fog-train, seemingly unable to control my own legs as I end up at my dealer's place. Even though I really disliked the feeling of being high fter being sober for a while, I still ended up om the daily fog-tain going nowhere but to KFC and burgerking.Cut all your "friends". In my case they never respected my wishes to stop and thus just a little preassure from them is enough if you have a weak moment of cravings. Get hobbies, eat healthy, workout and find your purpose is my tips. But first of all, in order to succseed you need to want it from the bottom of your heart!
>> Ian Fiddlebanks - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 00:39:35 EST yV/S+9Pc No.30466 Reply >>30464thankyou for the honestysometimes i have really great sober experiences like last night, where i really did feel like i did before i started smoking, then get really hype that i'm gonna quit but within 2-3 days i think i can handle it again and just restart weed, meaning i barely ever get to that week/month of no THC that makes you feel a lot better. i also have aspergers and weed became a habit/self med very quick.i need to remember that even if i did get weed i wouldn't enjoy it, it's literally the looking forward to weed that is more hype at this point and hoping it'll be like the first time, then getting disappointed when vaping a q in a day does barely anything.
>> Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:10:46 EST YaY2oWWS No.30479 Reply >>30461honestly just go on a trip somewhere for a week or two. dont bring bud with you. that's what worked for me a while back. althought i did relapse and im back on that shlab train but god it would be nice to not do this every day
>> Doris Mublinggold - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 21:19:27 EST Xj9sIgGL No.30495 Reply >>30462its a marathon, not a race. In order to complete a marathon, some degree of motivation is needed. Not wanting to quit is normal, it feels good in the short term, so ur brain is like man, when it feels so good, why shouldnt I? Been in your shoes although for 10years. For me, my tipping point was when I started to sell in order to fund my own addiction. I had access to more than normal, combined with less clients to turn a profit. Then I smoked so much that I didnt even get high even though it was the dankest dank I ever had. Also witnessing my childhood friends being literally useless stone-heads made me ask myself; is this how I wanna live? My connection's constant bad mood also motovated me alot, I dont wanna end up as a raging idiot who misunderstands everything and over-reacts to petty trivial shit. Im only a week sober, but this time I will not re-lapse. I have had long breaks before, but as soon as I go for "1 J only" Im suddently back on the fog-train, seemingly unable to control my own legs as I end up at my dealer's place. Even though I really disliked the feeling of being high fter being sober for a while, I still ended up om the daily fog-tain going nowhere but to KFC and burgerking.Cut all your "friends". In my case they never respected my wishes to stop and thus just a little preassure from them is enough if you have a weak moment of cravings. Get hobbies, eat healthy, workout and find your purpose is my tips. But first of all, in order to succseed you need to want it from the bottom of your heart!
Wanting to drastically cut back on cannabis View Thread Reply Hide Doris Gishnedge - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:15:48 EST cnfcRf9r No.30491 File: 1563455748358.jpg -(50143B / 48.97KB, 960x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I was/am a nightly smoker of cannabis (3 years) and have done quite a bit of thinking behind why I smoke. I’ve decided to drastically cut back and having it really only be a weekend thing, if at all. I don’t drink or do other drugs but I do take anti-anxiety medication (20mg) and am concerned about that sort of combination...I’m also concerned about withdrawal. I’ve done some T breaks in the past and while I haven’t smoked for 3 days this week, I’m feeling symptoms of restlessness and struggling to get out of bed but it’s been nothing that’s caused me to not function throughout the day for my job. I’ve heard tapering off is one way to alleviate symptoms but I’m the sort of person who would want to quit cold turkey. Anyone with similar experiences want to chime in? Thank you. >> David Sannertark - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:18:44 EST rl4uHNmE No.30493 Reply Hey man, well done for wanting to take the steps to quit! So one thing I will say, is weed doesn't give you physical withdrawal like say Opiates / Alcohol or Benzos - but I get that probs doesn't mean it's going to be easier for you... Just remember you are not physically dependent on this stuff, you've just built up a psychological problem towards it. This means you stand a chance of beating this shit straight up with the right mindset and tools. I guess sleeping is going to be a problem right? If you wanna do this as drug free as possible, maybe get some light / moderate exercise during the day and start getting a bedtime routine in place which includes a bath 45 mins before bed. Anxiety wise, you have meds you already take right? Can you review this with your doc? Make sure dose is correct and be honest with the doc about what you're dealing with! They actually can be useful in signposting you to local drug & alcohol support groups which in my opinion, can be really great if you find the right one! Also practice slow breathing and 'mindfulness'. It sounds like BS at first, but it kinda works If you invest in taking it seriously. >> Lydia Brummerhidging - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:07:19 EST YWBhMLiH No.30494 Reply >>30491Bro if it's already been three days and you haven't blown your stack you can white knuckle through this. You got it, be confident.
>> David Sannertark - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:18:44 EST rl4uHNmE No.30493 Reply Hey man, well done for wanting to take the steps to quit! So one thing I will say, is weed doesn't give you physical withdrawal like say Opiates / Alcohol or Benzos - but I get that probs doesn't mean it's going to be easier for you... Just remember you are not physically dependent on this stuff, you've just built up a psychological problem towards it. This means you stand a chance of beating this shit straight up with the right mindset and tools. I guess sleeping is going to be a problem right? If you wanna do this as drug free as possible, maybe get some light / moderate exercise during the day and start getting a bedtime routine in place which includes a bath 45 mins before bed. Anxiety wise, you have meds you already take right? Can you review this with your doc? Make sure dose is correct and be honest with the doc about what you're dealing with! They actually can be useful in signposting you to local drug & alcohol support groups which in my opinion, can be really great if you find the right one! Also practice slow breathing and 'mindfulness'. It sounds like BS at first, but it kinda works If you invest in taking it seriously.
>> Lydia Brummerhidging - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:07:19 EST YWBhMLiH No.30494 Reply >>30491Bro if it's already been three days and you haven't blown your stack you can white knuckle through this. You got it, be confident.
Hate and Love Weed View Thread Reply Hide Emma Drarrywug - Mon, 03 Jun 2019 15:51:41 EST cwhCtK9F No.30394 File: 1559591501189.jpg -(46631B / 45.54KB, 500x363) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. So I've got mild aspergers (you wouldn't know it unless you really paid attention to me or you just know the signs), been depressed for as long as I can remember, and 99% sure I've got ADHD, but In all these years I've never been officially diagnosed because they (therapists, doctors, counselors) won't shut the fuck up about my depression and want to only focus on that. (yeah doc, I can't concentrate at work, constant brain fog, blah blah blah, oh and I feel shitty about myself. doctor 'WHAT DEPRESSION?! Here take some prozac, and don't mention that brain fog bullshit again")About 6 months ago I started smoking a lot of weed, all the time. Thinking that it would alleviate some of the everyday suffering I go through due to my fucked up brain.NOPE. It has fucked up my short and long term memory even more than previously, fucked up my emotions, appetite, motivation. I went from fucked up to really fucked up, but now I get "munchies" and listen to the same album 8 times in a row.I'm trying to cut out weed, so I can be "normal" fucked up again. 2 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 19:22:38 EST YaY2oWWS No.30485 Reply >>30483yep, i have taken it before and i'm actually currently taking it to deal with weed & suboxone wds. it does a lot for the symptoms of weed wds because it increases your body's production of glutamate. i dont fully understand why it works so well but it takes the nausea, temperature issues, and other shit down considerably. i cant recommend this shit enough. >> Graham Clollyshaw - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 13:46:40 EST GiiCgdne No.30486 Reply >but now I get "munchies" and listen to the same album 8 times in a row.lmfao. can relate >> Charles Narringsit - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:26:15 EST rl4uHNmE No.30487 Reply >>30485Interesting! I'm gonna do some more of my own research on this stuff - personally weed isn't my issue, but I'm on a bupe script atm - if theres anything that may help me when I taper / finally jump off, then I'm all ears!! Thanks for the heads up man, appreciated
>> Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 19:22:38 EST YaY2oWWS No.30485 Reply >>30483yep, i have taken it before and i'm actually currently taking it to deal with weed & suboxone wds. it does a lot for the symptoms of weed wds because it increases your body's production of glutamate. i dont fully understand why it works so well but it takes the nausea, temperature issues, and other shit down considerably. i cant recommend this shit enough.
>> Graham Clollyshaw - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 13:46:40 EST GiiCgdne No.30486 Reply >but now I get "munchies" and listen to the same album 8 times in a row.lmfao. can relate
>> Charles Narringsit - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:26:15 EST rl4uHNmE No.30487 Reply >>30485Interesting! I'm gonna do some more of my own research on this stuff - personally weed isn't my issue, but I'm on a bupe script atm - if theres anything that may help me when I taper / finally jump off, then I'm all ears!! Thanks for the heads up man, appreciated
Rebound anxiety? View Thread Reply Hide Esther Lightson - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:59:18 EST HpJi4NF2 No.30472 File: 1562957958037.jpg -(71767B / 70.08KB, 720x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. After smoking cannabis concentrates very heavily for years to stopping cold turkey I feel as if I'm having rebound anxiety. Has any had similar experiences and maybe some helpful tips? I've always had some anxiety, but now it's almost a 24/7 experience. Also it's only been a week since I quit, can I expect it to lessen over time? Would CBD be helpful? I have Clonazepam available too, but I'm really trying to avoid daily use of that for obvious reasons. Thank you kindly 420chan gurus! >> Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:08:27 EST YaY2oWWS No.30478 Reply >>30472cbd should help a bit. i'd recommend N-acetyl cysteine as well, it'll really help with bud wds just make sure to take it w food or you're gonna throw up probably
>> Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:08:27 EST YaY2oWWS No.30478 Reply >>30472cbd should help a bit. i'd recommend N-acetyl cysteine as well, it'll really help with bud wds just make sure to take it w food or you're gonna throw up probably
Drug Stigma View Thread Reply Hide Wesley Sipperville - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:23:29 EST 2i/b9GeQ No.30473 File: 1563053009718.jpg -(43553B / 42.53KB, 543x353) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why are African immigrant parents in the West generally against drug use, even the legal kinds (medicines, alcohol)? I'm 21 but repeating school and I've noticed that black kids along with muslim kids have this hang up about drug use.The European kids (Irish, Polish) generally are tolerant of it/use it themselves. >> Basil Chingernodging - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:22:38 EST rl4uHNmE No.30474 Reply >>30473I dont get this post to be honest. Are you really trying to make a point, or just being a racist fuck hoping to get people 'triggered' ?? >> C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:16:59 EST v6wYqrwz No.30475 Reply Has to do with cultural differences I assume. You'd probably be saying the same thing about asian kids since Asian countries have very strict drug laws.
>> Basil Chingernodging - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:22:38 EST rl4uHNmE No.30474 Reply >>30473I dont get this post to be honest. Are you really trying to make a point, or just being a racist fuck hoping to get people 'triggered' ??
>> C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:16:59 EST v6wYqrwz No.30475 Reply Has to do with cultural differences I assume. You'd probably be saying the same thing about asian kids since Asian countries have very strict drug laws.
Opiate Metabolism View Thread Reply Hide Fuck Pimblepatch - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 17:27:49 EST j8UXNgN2 No.30461 File: 1562275669241.jpg -(2169889B / 2.07MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Use H one time a week. Less than .5. On Mondays. I get piss tested by home confinement tomorrow (Friday). Will I be clean? 2 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Hannah Dindletutch - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 15:42:48 EST rl4uHNmE No.30469 Reply >>30468This. Opiates may seem like bliss, but they will strip people of their soul before they even know what they've got into. I'm just trying to stay clean personally now - think I'm finally done with the Opi game. I cant manage occasional use, so I would rather just commit to never again at this point.... >> Oliver Didgetane - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 03:10:59 EST E0QJzQWy No.30470 Reply 1562656259099.jpg -(54598B / 53.32KB, 1170x672) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>30468Gonna agree with this person here, opiates are baaad news, even if they make you feel good. Best to steer clear, think about how many stories you've heard about people having good long term relationships with opiates.Those stories don't exist, eventually you get clean or you die. >> Martha Pommlehack - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:01:52 EST Vf85ikK5 No.30471 Reply >>30470Exactly - sooo many people think they can just use occasionally, and maybe they do for a little time. Then before you know it, an extra day here and there and the next thing you know - it's a daily habit. Then you realise actually it's not even getting you feeling that good anymore, so you try to stop - but it's too late. Your body gets sick if you stop. That shit is demoralizing - when you dont want to use, but you got to use to keep yourself from puking up and shaking and sweating etc... Nah - I'm deffo done with Opi's lol fuck putting myself through the misery
>> Hannah Dindletutch - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 15:42:48 EST rl4uHNmE No.30469 Reply >>30468This. Opiates may seem like bliss, but they will strip people of their soul before they even know what they've got into. I'm just trying to stay clean personally now - think I'm finally done with the Opi game. I cant manage occasional use, so I would rather just commit to never again at this point....
>> Oliver Didgetane - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 03:10:59 EST E0QJzQWy No.30470 Reply 1562656259099.jpg -(54598B / 53.32KB, 1170x672) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>30468Gonna agree with this person here, opiates are baaad news, even if they make you feel good. Best to steer clear, think about how many stories you've heard about people having good long term relationships with opiates.Those stories don't exist, eventually you get clean or you die.
>> Martha Pommlehack - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:01:52 EST Vf85ikK5 No.30471 Reply >>30470Exactly - sooo many people think they can just use occasionally, and maybe they do for a little time. Then before you know it, an extra day here and there and the next thing you know - it's a daily habit. Then you realise actually it's not even getting you feeling that good anymore, so you try to stop - but it's too late. Your body gets sick if you stop. That shit is demoralizing - when you dont want to use, but you got to use to keep yourself from puking up and shaking and sweating etc... Nah - I'm deffo done with Opi's lol fuck putting myself through the misery
Kratom withdrawal View Thread Reply Hide Oliver Bronderpetch - Wed, 08 May 2019 20:16:36 EST 2281xTrj No.30367 File: 1557360996141.gif -(269677B / 263.36KB, 383x306) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Anyone else experience withdrawals coming off of kratom? I'm looking to quit, but it's been very difficult thus far as I've used it for a long time. It's to the point of waking up nearly every morning with a feeling of panic in my chest and back while sometimes coldsweating. I miss my xan connection, now that I could use them they're nowhere to be found lol 9 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Thomas Hemmlechit - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:32:01 EST 9uiaseB8 No.30447 Reply >>30443Yeah bupe will be easy to kick if you've faced oxy & H withdrawals. Bupe withdrawals will last longer but they're for sure more gentle, and because it's so long acting and active at low doses, you can taper ultra low conveniently.I received my akuamma capsules and they seem to work real neatly.I don't really have physical withdrawals at this point of the taper but akuamma works just great for insomnia, since it's not as stimmy as kratom. Also it doesn't shrink my pupils (just like loperamide) so I think alot of the effects stay in the digestive track. That again is great for my IBS and since akuamma is way more medicinal than recreational, it's great for rehab purposes.Shit's also legal so I recommend it to everyone on this board >> Hamilton Hazzledock - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 19:40:52 EST VzQ6AcuS No.30450 Reply Go to a psychiatrist for xanax if you're having panic attacks. holy shit >> Eliza Dreggleville - Sun, 23 Jun 2019 06:22:30 EST rl4uHNmE No.30451 Reply >>30450The one thing I will say about xanax is that it's another addictive substance... I mean you're right and all, but in my personal opinion, treating Opi withdrawal symptoms with an equally addictive different class of drug is not always the best option. Everyone is different tho so I know some people can and do use xanax for this reason. I just felt like I needed to point out the drawbacks on that advice to balance the argument...
>> Thomas Hemmlechit - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:32:01 EST 9uiaseB8 No.30447 Reply >>30443Yeah bupe will be easy to kick if you've faced oxy & H withdrawals. Bupe withdrawals will last longer but they're for sure more gentle, and because it's so long acting and active at low doses, you can taper ultra low conveniently.I received my akuamma capsules and they seem to work real neatly.I don't really have physical withdrawals at this point of the taper but akuamma works just great for insomnia, since it's not as stimmy as kratom. Also it doesn't shrink my pupils (just like loperamide) so I think alot of the effects stay in the digestive track. That again is great for my IBS and since akuamma is way more medicinal than recreational, it's great for rehab purposes.Shit's also legal so I recommend it to everyone on this board
>> Hamilton Hazzledock - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 19:40:52 EST VzQ6AcuS No.30450 Reply Go to a psychiatrist for xanax if you're having panic attacks. holy shit
>> Eliza Dreggleville - Sun, 23 Jun 2019 06:22:30 EST rl4uHNmE No.30451 Reply >>30450The one thing I will say about xanax is that it's another addictive substance... I mean you're right and all, but in my personal opinion, treating Opi withdrawal symptoms with an equally addictive different class of drug is not always the best option. Everyone is different tho so I know some people can and do use xanax for this reason. I just felt like I needed to point out the drawbacks on that advice to balance the argument...
Tramadol Detox View Thread Reply Hide Charles Bomblenene - Mon, 06 May 2019 14:41:20 EST jzFEcV5d No.30356 File: 1557168080217.jpg -(86093B / 84.08KB, 500x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Today is day 1 in my attempt to kick this shit for good, decided to do it cold-turkey since tapering didn't work before.Some background, been using for about 5yrs, last year the dose went up to 500mg daily. I'm diagnosed bipolar type 2 disorder so also taking 20mg of Valium and 75mg of Pregabalin daily (my doc doesn't know about the tramadol), not planning on quitting those soon.Already took care of business and have the week off work so figured out this is the time to do it. Just came back from thr pharmacy and got me some loperamide, benadryl and parecetamol (heard it helps with cramps), also have some klonopin and prozac in my cabinet but will avoid them unless things get really ugly. Also got a big stash of strong weed to help.What am I in for? So far its been 24hs since last pill so the ride has just begun.Any tips? (I live in SA so no Kratom here)Thanks 17 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Cornelius Dongerwore - Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:28:34 EST jzFEcV5d No.30419 Reply OP reporting 1 month later.Still clean, physical symptoms seem to be gone, still waiting for my motivation an libido to come back but I guess that part can take some time, really hope they come back soon. Depression is there alright but realized that I gotten so used to it that it's something I can manage (and pregabalin works to keep it in check).Last week decided to start working out and got a pretty bad flu the day after so fuck me, but I'll try again once I'm feeling better. Still get some cravings, specially during the daytime when weed is not an option, but it doesn't affect me as much.Came clean to a few friends but still haven't done so to my doctor, maybe on my next appointment in a few months. If for some reason he cuts me off the valium and lyrica things might get ugly, but I doubt he will do it. >> Cornelius Saffingsot - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:35:25 EST zo0Jnfbb No.30432 Reply 1560465325912.jpg -(246631B / 240.85KB, 800x796) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. day ten with no booze.this shit sucks but I am feeling better. stay strong friends. >> Lillian Snodhall - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 04:01:03 EST EHecVJbz No.30449 Reply >>30432I kinda think, that drug use, put as much effert into not doing these, as one does doing them.
>> Cornelius Dongerwore - Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:28:34 EST jzFEcV5d No.30419 Reply OP reporting 1 month later.Still clean, physical symptoms seem to be gone, still waiting for my motivation an libido to come back but I guess that part can take some time, really hope they come back soon. Depression is there alright but realized that I gotten so used to it that it's something I can manage (and pregabalin works to keep it in check).Last week decided to start working out and got a pretty bad flu the day after so fuck me, but I'll try again once I'm feeling better. Still get some cravings, specially during the daytime when weed is not an option, but it doesn't affect me as much.Came clean to a few friends but still haven't done so to my doctor, maybe on my next appointment in a few months. If for some reason he cuts me off the valium and lyrica things might get ugly, but I doubt he will do it.
>> Cornelius Saffingsot - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:35:25 EST zo0Jnfbb No.30432 Reply 1560465325912.jpg -(246631B / 240.85KB, 800x796) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. day ten with no booze.this shit sucks but I am feeling better. stay strong friends.
>> Lillian Snodhall - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 04:01:03 EST EHecVJbz No.30449 Reply >>30432I kinda think, that drug use, put as much effert into not doing these, as one does doing them.
Emptiness View Thread Reply Hide Fuck Gingershit - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 02:31:02 EST qcYw9UQY No.30440 File: 1560839462191.jpg -(550541B / 537.64KB, 2048x1536) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Recently I took a heroic dose of shrooms with the intent of curing my alcohol problem (about 3 shots or more a day). Now that I've been sober for a month, my feelings are strange. I have no cravings for anything and it feels like the shrooms reset my brain. Alcohol feels like a distant memory and I can't even remember what being drunk felt like, nor what my urges were.The sensation of something missing is overwhelming at times. My body is confused why it hasn't become intoxicated in awhile, yet I no longer feel the need or want to drink. Are there healthy ways of overcoming this emptiness? >> Nathaniel Tootstock - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:18:16 EST rl4uHNmE No.30441 Reply >>30440Hey - wow firstly well done to you! I've heard of shrooms being used to help reset the brain for addiction, but you're the first person I've come across who has done it. Interesting how that's worked for you! Anyway regarding your question - sounds like you need to find a hobby. I know this sounds cliche, but the more you can find to do, the less empty you will feel for sure. Loads of people always say exercise helps - for me personally, I was never a fan of going for a run and stuff. It never did it for me - but I've been modding my car since getting clean from Opi's and that's working really well for me so far! I guess everyone is different, but have a think about what you might like to do / save towards - get a little project going and occupy your time with goals related to that. Or just making simple 'to-do' lists for stuff and then ticking stuff off as you make your way through the list - that gives a good sense of achievement and keeps you focused rather than feeling empty. Again, this is just stuff that's working for me, but it does seem to be stuff that I've heard come up in proper detox therapy sessions, so there must be something in it lol. All the best
>> Nathaniel Tootstock - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:18:16 EST rl4uHNmE No.30441 Reply >>30440Hey - wow firstly well done to you! I've heard of shrooms being used to help reset the brain for addiction, but you're the first person I've come across who has done it. Interesting how that's worked for you! Anyway regarding your question - sounds like you need to find a hobby. I know this sounds cliche, but the more you can find to do, the less empty you will feel for sure. Loads of people always say exercise helps - for me personally, I was never a fan of going for a run and stuff. It never did it for me - but I've been modding my car since getting clean from Opi's and that's working really well for me so far! I guess everyone is different, but have a think about what you might like to do / save towards - get a little project going and occupy your time with goals related to that. Or just making simple 'to-do' lists for stuff and then ticking stuff off as you make your way through the list - that gives a good sense of achievement and keeps you focused rather than feeling empty. Again, this is just stuff that's working for me, but it does seem to be stuff that I've heard come up in proper detox therapy sessions, so there must be something in it lol. All the best
drugs, overdose,detoxing View Thread Reply Hide 10 - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:52:57 EST Zo/0yT1I No.30427 File: 1560340377527.jpg -(656486B / 641.10KB, 1125x1082) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. ive recovered from an oxy addiction on my own. oxy is probably one of the best drugs ive ever had and by far my favorite. im not sure if its bc im schizo or anything but i had no withdrawal symptoms. i was sick of spending all my money on drugs so i just stopped. i stopped doing oxy,weed and coke. the most i got was a slight headache. i think theres something seriously wrong with my body or its fucking insane. i overdosed once on oxy and it was terrible, i overheated bc i snorted 30mg of oxy then took a very hot bath. not even 30 mins in i threw up and was shaking on my. athroom floor.... i think my body is truly indestructible which sucks because im an extremely suicidal person... ive overdosed twice, i didnt even go to the hospital i just drank.a fuck ton of water and rested. i hate the doctors. well anyways, i dont suggest trying to od and staying home... it.. is bad... stay safe everyone <3 >> Nathaniel Pubblewater - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:46:08 EST Njn6oOdc No.30428 Reply you’re not indestructible. >> Nicholas Blatherlock - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:07:10 EST rl4uHNmE No.30429 Reply I think the only person who needs to stay safe is you OP. I'm sceptical that you've even done any of this shit tbh - I'm sorry but you ain't special. Everyone gets withdrawal from opiates, so you either didn't do Oxy for that long, or you were doing what you thought was Oxy, but was actually not that at all. What's the purpose of this post anyway? You just trying to brag about how hardcore you are or something? Man I think some growing up is in order for you OP - life isn't some casual fucking party. Keep going as you allegedly are, and you will fall on your ass fucking hard. I say this not to rip into you, but as a warning that this mentality will get you nowhere and probably kill you. And yes you can be killed, because no human is indestructible. Only fools think otherwise >> Doris Norringman - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:29:30 EST mYIVlqFO No.30431 Reply >>3042730mg aint shit. you didnt come close to oding. I know retards that have taken like 300mg+. No clue how. But they survived with minimal brain cell loss.. so I assume it's possible
>> Nathaniel Pubblewater - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:46:08 EST Njn6oOdc No.30428 Reply you’re not indestructible.
>> Nicholas Blatherlock - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:07:10 EST rl4uHNmE No.30429 Reply I think the only person who needs to stay safe is you OP. I'm sceptical that you've even done any of this shit tbh - I'm sorry but you ain't special. Everyone gets withdrawal from opiates, so you either didn't do Oxy for that long, or you were doing what you thought was Oxy, but was actually not that at all. What's the purpose of this post anyway? You just trying to brag about how hardcore you are or something? Man I think some growing up is in order for you OP - life isn't some casual fucking party. Keep going as you allegedly are, and you will fall on your ass fucking hard. I say this not to rip into you, but as a warning that this mentality will get you nowhere and probably kill you. And yes you can be killed, because no human is indestructible. Only fools think otherwise
>> Doris Norringman - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:29:30 EST mYIVlqFO No.30431 Reply >>3042730mg aint shit. you didnt come close to oding. I know retards that have taken like 300mg+. No clue how. But they survived with minimal brain cell loss.. so I assume it's possible
stigma against daily use View Thread Reply Hide Albert Dengerwell - Wed, 15 May 2019 10:56:49 EST 3yFaX8Q9 No.30383 File: 1557932209409.jpg -(236190B / 230.65KB, 892x892) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why is there a stigma against non-social drug use i.e. using alone, in school or at work?A girl who liked weed and cocaine was saying I shouldn't be taking pills (was taking tablets of valium) in school. Not overdoing it obviously and I wasn't acting fucked up but there's still judgement. Why?The same even with alcohol. I can understand when operating machinery but what's wrong with taking 1mg pill before a test? 1 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Nell Bardbanks - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 17:27:00 EST 1wucISbS No.30397 Reply >>30384The stigma applies to downers for very good reasons 1) dependence and 2) withdrawal that contains crying, twitching, hallucinations and insomnia.Quitting coffee cold turkey just makes you tired and unable to focus. Same applies to amphetamines although quitting that shit might give you depression so bad that it's a few sick days. But not like earth is shaking sick days you get from opioids for 3 days or from benzos for up to a month. >> Wesley Giggleham - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 09:46:26 EST gbuZg/D3 No.30401 Reply People hate those who are weak more than anything. Taking drugs for fun every now and then is fine, but when you go around doing it all the time people assume it's because it's a crutch that you need in order to get through life. You will be treated like scum for your weakness. >> Cyril Chankinman - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 15:40:52 EST rl4uHNmE No.30403 Reply >>30401I'm not so sure about this - I mean certain people will do for sure, but in general I dont think that's the general perception? But like with anything, we are all human and will all form opinions of others - or in this case, their substance abuse. I think its just human nature to judge and compare to those around you
>> Nell Bardbanks - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 17:27:00 EST 1wucISbS No.30397 Reply >>30384The stigma applies to downers for very good reasons 1) dependence and 2) withdrawal that contains crying, twitching, hallucinations and insomnia.Quitting coffee cold turkey just makes you tired and unable to focus. Same applies to amphetamines although quitting that shit might give you depression so bad that it's a few sick days. But not like earth is shaking sick days you get from opioids for 3 days or from benzos for up to a month.
>> Wesley Giggleham - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 09:46:26 EST gbuZg/D3 No.30401 Reply People hate those who are weak more than anything. Taking drugs for fun every now and then is fine, but when you go around doing it all the time people assume it's because it's a crutch that you need in order to get through life. You will be treated like scum for your weakness.
>> Cyril Chankinman - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 15:40:52 EST rl4uHNmE No.30403 Reply >>30401I'm not so sure about this - I mean certain people will do for sure, but in general I dont think that's the general perception? But like with anything, we are all human and will all form opinions of others - or in this case, their substance abuse. I think its just human nature to judge and compare to those around you
