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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Drug test - need to test positive for methadone metabolites! Do they test concentration level?

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- Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:47:22 EST 5S0hrOIh No.29556
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I need to pass a test on Friday. It is Wednesday right now. I need my urine to only test positive for methadone use as I am on a maintenance program and had a slip. If I give someone a very small amount of methadone will it show up properly on the test? I'm in Canada if that helps.

See, I plan to give a friend some methadone. They would prefer to not take much. I am on a fairly low dose myself (1.2ml aka 12mg)
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WilyMajin !8davHXfHRc - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:04:19 EST iTWMoxRs No.30805 Reply
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>>29556
I'll take your word for it
Keep of Koopa<[(@!)]
User is currently banned from all boardsUser is currently banned from all boards
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Augustus Neckleham - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:37:29 EST kcQvzvUD No.30806 Reply
If you had a slip, you need to go back in.
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Nell Bupperpet - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 21:54:00 EST NXWMINeU No.30807 Reply
>>30806 THIS

Seriously OP, this isn't like trying to get a job in fast food. Do you want the help or no? Tell them you fucked up.

The dreaded UA thread

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- Tue, 17 Dec 2019 15:54:52 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30768
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haven't smoked in a month and about a week. 245 510. Shit diet, been lazing around alot aswell so I would be lying if I was to say I was active lately. However, I do drink about 2-3 gallons of water daily and always have. Plan on diluting anyhow but not subbing. What does Chan think my chances are? This isn't really a make a break but it would sure be nice. I know it's a 10 panel lab but don't know cuttof so let's assume it's 20ng..
I also posted in /weed/ just didn't know where to drop it. The Chan isnt nearly as active as it once was so plox keep in both
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Basil Grimfuck - Wed, 01 Jan 2020 18:35:45 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30794 Reply
>>30791
Yeah def OP here. Smoked a blunt on new years, first time smoking since I quit also probably the 'last'. I felt like I was tripping on mushrooms I was so fucking high. Besides that Gunna pay for a lab test in about 15 days and see how fast the one time cleans out. Probably report back again afterwards, end goal is a state job and probably should have denied the blunt.. but fuck it it's 2020
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Basil Grimfuck - Wed, 01 Jan 2020 18:38:27 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30795 Reply
>>30794
The job I got is simply to pay the bills. Job I want takes about 6 months to complete process so I figured worst case I have another 30 days if it comes to that before I must whip the ole cock out again.

Alcohol Abstinence Thread

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- Tue, 22 Aug 2017 07:47:47 EST 5nT9NWqY No.29436
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Greetings /detox/.

After really admitting to myself how badly my alcohol addiction was affecting other aspects of my life, I have made a serious decision to stop usage for a while. I am going to document my journey in this thread to amuse the bored, encourage those who may be dealing with similar problems, and to keep myself focused and honest. If I slip up I will be honest as well.

Little background:
>Duration of alcoholism: 8 years
>Frequency of consumption: 5-7 days per week with no period of abstinence longer than 2 days
>Amount consumed per day: ~7oz of ethanol in an evening
>Affected aspects of life: work, school, relationships, hobbies, mental and physical health

I am currently on my fourth day with no alcohol and I am already seeing and feeling notable improvements in my body and mind. I will go over how each day felt.

>First 24 Hours
By far the worst. Not only from the withdrawals, but the knowledge that booze is not coming any time soon. Sweating, shaking hands, lack of appetite, insomnia, flushed skin, increased blood pressure, irritability, dark and disturbing dreams when sleep comes in fits

>24-48 Hours
The dandruff I started to notice over the past couple of months already looks almost completely cleared up, amazingly, as well as a few pimples on my face. Bloating of abdomen and general system-wide inflammation decreased. Belly size shrunk, clothes fitting looser. Appetite growing. Sleeping still difficult, but less sweating. Occasional faint auditory hallucinations.

>48-72 Hours
Getting more bearable. Starting to feel a tiny glimmer of hope that I can rise out of the hole I have dug. Shits are solid and don't smell sickly sweet. Further decrease in bloating and inflammation. Since digestive system has finally caught a break from continuous processing of toxic poison sludge (I mostly drink 40's containing HFCS), my appetite is extremely strong. Mind fog starting to lift. Almost scared at the resurgent cognition after removing CNS depressant. Like a muffled voice that can finally speak freely, my thoughts are racing almost faster than I can keep up.

>72-96 Hours
This is where I am now. Can't sleep tonight, I'll just pull an all-nighter and crash tomorrow night. After laying in bed awake for a few hours I decided to make this thread. My digestive system feels wonderful. You don't know how nice a solid poop is until you are a truly depraved alcoholic. My mind feels clear. I am looking forward to a nice big nutritious breakfast tomorrow since I won't be hungover and bloated and nibbling on toast. I am no longer perspiring abnormally, and the shakes in my hands are almost 100% gone, I can hold them very still like I used to.


I won't blog this shit every day, but every few days I'll update my detox thread for my own viewing later. Anyone has comments/questions, toss 'em in the thread.
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David Pirringhug - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 21:25:01 EST Mc1D68ku No.30766 Reply
When I got clean and sober I went to Alcoholics Anonymous. Nothing like being around a bunch of people that are just as fucked in the head as you are.

Lots of coffee, cigarettes, i've been dry for over a year now.

I was the kind of alcoholic that would drink mouthwash if I couldn't get liquor. It was bad.
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Nicholas Billinglock - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 21:40:37 EST E1oWrrWz No.30783 Reply
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>>29436
Good luck man, starting today myself. Fucked up my health and life for waaay too long so I'm going for it. Gonna fucking suck being dry on new years but to hell with it.
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Cyril Ponnerwill - Thu, 26 Dec 2019 10:37:21 EST 4Kgw+W6U No.30784 Reply
>>30783
Good job man. It's not a hardship to not drink.

Sober October?

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- Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:10:30 EST oJMYMbKv No.30647
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Anyone else gonna try it? I might have a couple drinks tonight, depending how shakey I get. But then I'll try to lay off booze for all october.
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Isabella Blongerdad - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:02:04 EST Xlw/h2tw No.30709 Reply
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I'm doing sober November. Drinking + unemployment seems like a pretty bad idea, and I've been drinking too often anyways.

Looking for jobs is almost worse than having a job, but shit aint so bad.
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James - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:13:16 EST JpLRUC93 No.30715 Reply
>>30709
Good shit man. I started sobriet after losing a job too. And I’ve been sober for a year now. Keep with it homie
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Simon Wundlefit - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 12:35:18 EST Xlw/h2tw No.30748 Reply
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>>30709
I ended up drinking on Thanksgiving, but I'd still call it a success. It was still probably the longest I've gone without drinking since I started.
Eliminating vices is far from easy, and any progress is still progress. Keep trying out there everybody.

I should not be here

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- Thu, 14 Nov 2019 16:51:15 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30712
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I shouldnt be here, ive done this atleast 7 times now. but still i trip myself out. Took swab nov 8th. nov 6th and 7th i smoked rez packs being a week minded fool. About 12 hours in between smoking rez and test. ate pizza all night, brushed 3 times before test, mouthwashed 3 times, swished with cold water and whole milk, chewed some cope driving up there, swished peroxide immediately before walking in and chewed a jolly rancher 5 minutes up to the test. Its for amazon and like i said ive DONE THIS PLENTY OF TIMES. But i would love if some fellers out there could calm my nerves.. Hate the waiting game.
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James Cicklefick - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 18:53:36 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30745 Reply
>>30738
it was literally an amazon seasonal position. Not really to upset about it. But bump other guys comment, your a POS and hopefully you die of cancer
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James Cicklefick - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 18:56:00 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30746 Reply
>>30738
i think you missed the comment of me being good financially to. So pop a squat in the chair your going to kill yourself in your moms basement and take yourself to reeddit fagboi
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Eliza Smallwell - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 20:57:21 EST Zy9P6Qor No.30755 Reply
>>30746
Could you make it any more obvious that I hit the nail on the head lmao

Stopping and starting and stopping again

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- Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:35:54 EST /6WxEFr8 No.30736
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Been sober for over a month now (no alcohol, weed, or cigarettes). Combined with better exercise and diet, I'm feeling better than I've felt in a while. I originally planned to stay sober for a month, but at the moment I've been thinking of keeping it going long term.

Christmas and New Year's are coming up though. I'll be spending the time with my friends (live abroad so no family to see) and they will be drinking, taking weed edibles, and generally being merry in the Xmas season. I know that I could stay sober, but I also want to chill out and enjoy some mulled wine, and get blazed while we watch Shrek and eat Christmas dinner.

Do you think it's viable to break my sobriety on Christmas Eve/Day, and again possibly on NYE, and then continue my sobriety in 2020? Open to opinions and advice.
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Cedric Snodwill - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:54:26 EST 16NJFSUW No.30741 Reply
>>30737
I like to think I wasn't addicted. I was drinking a fair amount (2-3 times a week, sometimes alone) and I was definitely drinking to avoid dealing with my emotions/future. I quit everything cold turkey after making a decision to get my head clear for next summer, when I have some big choices to make.

So I don't believe that drinking/getting high on Xmas/NYE would throw me back into a habit. Ultimately, I'm worried that I wouldn't be able to enjoy myself as I am annoyed or upset that I broke my streak.
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Emma Gicklepock - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:34:32 EST NYyq34RY No.30742 Reply
>>30736
This happened to me with alcohol. I quit once to lose weight and went back to it. Quit again because I couldn't control my weight. Both times my life improved so much I just stayed dry. Two years later I don't drink at all.
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Emma Gicklepock - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:37:53 EST NYyq34RY No.30743 Reply
>>30737
Addiction is a loaded word that just means compulsive behavior, and like any compulsive behavior it can be replaced with other behaviors and extincted (this is a budget definition of CBT/Behavior Mod). If you're addicted and quit, and white knuckle your way through detox, counting the days until you can drink again, then you're absolutely right, the addiction is still in control. But when you can objectively look around and list behaviors, attitudes, and values that have changed as a result of your cessation (like op) then you're well on course to extincting the behavior. Which means what you're talking about remains to be seen.

Cannabis Withdrawal Aid

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- Fri, 14 Jul 2017 11:06:21 EST h+qW62lx No.29356
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wasn't sure whether to post this on /weed/ or here but i guess it makes more sense here for now. I've been smoking pretty much all day erry day for 4 months and i am planning on taking a break for awhile but i have always in the past been super susceptible to the withdrawal from cannabis. Now im not saying that cannabis does not have one of the most mild and benign withdrawals i just use to fuck around with /opi/s and use to have to deal with dope sickness alot and now when i stop smoking weed i get what seems to be exaggerated withdrawals similar to the ones i used to get years ago. I was thinking if i had CBD supplements from the health food store i could take them for the first few days or so as a way to maybe ease some of the initial discomfort, would that possibly work? the CBD capsules contain like barely any THC and are completely non-psychoactive. Has anyone had any similar experiences?
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Lydia Duckbury - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:24:15 EST q/gGvUzA No.30739 Reply
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>>30725
There are guys in this thread saying shit like "marijuana withdrawal isn't necessarily lethal, but...." lmao. Literally acting like they'll die if they put down the bong for a couple days. When you're on the corner offering to suck dick for weed, the people looking down at you don't think they're cool lol. They're just functioning adults.
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Nell Fuckinghood - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:38:33 EST RP8uzkhI No.30740 Reply
>>30739
I think a lot of people are just saying to be careful coming off any addiction so you don't replace it with another one.

Kratom

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- Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:57:49 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30726
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What type of drug test for pre employment do i have to be concerned about for popping for Kratum? Plan on applying to DOC in my state and considering its a state job do you think its something that would be pulled.

start use to cope with a problem i had with drinking, i typically will dose 4-8g about 4 times a week
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Angus Siffingshit - Mon, 25 Nov 2019 09:12:14 EST 4IYPMuMh No.30728 Reply
If you're worried about a drug test just order one off Amazon.

haalp

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- Sat, 23 Nov 2019 17:30:42 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30721
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hey /detox/ i dont want to say i hit rock bottom but it sure feels like it. Today marks the end of a 12 drink a day binge ive been on for a couple months. My girl is fed up, I squashed atleast 3 job opportunities this month, close friends and family are calling me on my bullshit (smelling like booze at 1pm, no call no showing plans, literally being a hermit) Ive had a problem for almost 4 years now and its pretty much stop now or put a shotgun in my mouth.

I dont have insurance but plan on going to therapy once i can land a solid new job.
I quit smoking weed a couple months back and i may be in the wrong fourm to say this but i plan on picking some up. It helps control my anxiety in the less destructive way possible, i basically suffer from the same feelings when sober as i do drunk, the alc just amplifys the depression and anxiety at this level. Thc keeps me in check and i plan on using it until i can seek pro help.

Any other suggestions though, im not to worried about withdrawal symptoms. Im more worried about having a rough day and forgetting why im doing this. What are some day to day things i can do to control the beast? will logging days help? Im currently unemployed and have way to much time and money on my hands. what are some things that have helped you guys. Please dont suggest working out, i already do it changes nothing mentally for me but other ideas are welcome
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Charlotte Snodshaw - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 17:38:20 EST k50yN1ys No.30722 Reply
>>30721

Lately I've been begging and sometimes groveling internally for clarity, to see what I am needing at the moment and evaluate strategies to meet those needs. I've been doing lots of other stuff too, that is just the most recent addition I've made to my personal brain-medicine cabinet.
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Clara Bardstock - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 04:50:13 EST 4IYPMuMh No.30723 Reply
>>30721
Stop crossfading. You aren't feeling anxiety. Those are the effects of years of alcohol abuse. They are physical symptoms, not psychological. You can't abate them with drugs, you have to stop drinking.

Great info/ammo/reasons for detoxing

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- Thu, 07 Nov 2019 20:51:33 EST holB1lVI No.30710
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TLR the book just tells you why sleeping is so great. He actually doesn't really describe WHY we sleep, but he does talk about WHY good sleep is important. It's basically popsci and you can rush through it. Or watch the guy's Joe Rogan talk, he talks about similar stuff. It gave me enough of a reason to lower my caffeine use, and now I actually remember some amount of my dreams and I can tell how therapeutic they are. Some things sleep helps with off the top of my head: emotional resilience, energy (obviously?), learning (very important for students etc), creativity, ability to deal with adversity.
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Sidney Pazzlepare - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 10:47:15 EST YbTbq9pp No.30711 Reply
It's something we joke about but it's really true.

What to expect from my level of Alcohol use?

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- Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:57:49 EST y/IT3SDg No.30671
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Im just curious about how they compare. It's cause i jsut watched a documentary on benzo dependence and withdrawl and that shit looked absolutely horrifying. However the people interviewed were taking benzos at full doses, long term, every day for months or even years.

Now my situation.... Thankfully i've never used Benzos. However... i've been drinking around 5-6 standard drinks every day after work for about 3 or so years now. Specifically like 3 beers and 3 shots of vodka. I know that's bad and unhealthy but at the same time i feel mostly alright and stable with this lifestyle. i dont wake up hungover, just un-rested. I never had "the shakes" or any panic attacks. The worst of it is once in a while i might feel a bit on edge or a tiny bit anxious, which might just be from the coffee i drink, who knows, but it's nothing detrimental, concerning or serious. Still, i cant deny, i haven't went more than 24 hours without a drink in a few years. Like i said, it's every day, get home from work, open a beer, take a shot, and coast on that while gradually sipping on the rest (4-ish drinks more) until i go to bed.
Now i know i shouldn't be asking medical advice here but im still curious... with my alcohol habit and the degree that it's at, what would a decent taper look like and feel like? Am i that bad, am i really at risk for serious withdrawl effects? I like to hope not. My doctor told me to start at 4 drinks a day and each new week, take away 1, so it sounds like i could taper down within a month. Seems reasonable to me, but i still worry and i just dont know what to expect.
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Poltergeist Pimp - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 01:18:38 EST bFr6DzW0 No.30678 Reply
apologies for double post, first time on this site. Gave me an error at first
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Barnaby Femmlehall - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:36:26 EST ejVQzpYk No.30679 Reply
>>30674
Withdrawal from daily use at six drinks or less isn't going to hurt ya. How long do you want to stay a drunk? Just quit.
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Cornelius Poshpane - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 00:46:55 EST 3TBnmicy No.30703 Reply
>>30679
>Withdrawal from daily use at six drinks or less isn't going to hurt ya.

But the daily use from drinking as much may.

Detox

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- Tue, 08 Oct 2019 22:25:50 EST EDHR+99y No.30659
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I havent smoked weed since labor day (Sept 2) which was 36 days ago. I got a piss test on monday the 14th. Ive been taking practice tests and they return as passes but with a very very faint line for the passing area. Im scared that i wont have a convincing pass come monday. What is the secret to getting the devils lettuce completely out of me? I really need this job so please /detox/ help me out, youre my only hope.
I'm at 6ft 210lbs, 27% body fat
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Wesley Brallerdock - Sat, 02 Nov 2019 13:18:00 EST Vf5qlNio No.30696 Reply
>>30661
Wrong, it took me like 70 days for the piss test to come back clean. Body fat % makes a tremendous difference with this stuff, and in my case my bf% was around the same as OP. (tbh I'm guessing here. I was 6'5" 240lbs, probably only like 165 lean lmao)



12 more days should put you around fifty days total. Unless you were the kind of guy who takes fatass dabs in the morning, at your bf%, it should be clean by then. I mean, especially if it's already coming back a pass. >>30661
>>30661
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Beatrice Sillerfield - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:41:55 EST 8fgIUW9k No.30700 Reply
>>30696
Exactly, I have been THC positive for the last 6.5 years.
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Cornelius Poshpane - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 00:41:16 EST 3TBnmicy No.30702 Reply
>>30660
An associates PO accused him of taking vitamin b to make his urine yellow. Damned if you do, if you don't.

Benzo detoz

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- Sat, 02 Nov 2019 15:19:15 EST AwzIAHmi No.30697
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Hey guys,

So im entering a 5 day medical detox tomorrow for benzos and opiates. Clearly 5 days isnt enough for the benzos. I have been prescribed 4mg of klonopin daily for about 6 months and took atleast 3mg a day for those 6 months. every now and then I have gone on weekend long xanax binges taking 4-6 pressed bars (god knows whats in those, but whatever it is i feel like it was actually a lower dose than a pharm bar. my guess is it was 1 mg of alp, flualp or etiz).

Im glad ill be in a hospital setting so i dont have to worry about seizures but my benzo use is excessive to say the least. I want to go to an inaptient rehab facility afterwards because I know i'll still be in withdrawl from benzos. I wish i coild do a slower taper but thats off the talee

Besides depakote for seizures, what are the best comfort meds i can get for benzo withdrawal. I really want to be able to sleep, but i realize thats wishful thinking.

is there anything else you guys could recommend? I am a healthy 24 year old male. During the 5 day detox I will have phone and computer.

I really am strugglign deciding if i want to continue suboxone or not. Perhaps vivitrol may be a better choice. Are there any reports out about the withdrawal from sublocade?
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Beatrice Sillerfield - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:41:14 EST 8fgIUW9k No.30699 Reply
Benzo withdrawal sucks man, but you'll be over the worst part of it.
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Caroline Dallerworth - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 13:40:59 EST AwzIAHmi No.30701 Reply
>>30699

So i should probably stay on the subs while im there considering benzo withdrawal is brutal enough

dabs

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- Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:04:21 EST 4drC0b2l No.30682
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will detox drinks work differently w/ dabs?

I have this one drink thats always worked for me, but i've been smoking dabs lately and i usually smoke trees. Now i'm laid off work and looking for a new job
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Molly Battingbanks - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 19:21:25 EST q/gGvUzA No.30688 Reply
Detox drinks don't do anything that chugging an equivalent amount of water won't do. Quit smoking until you've got a new job and have received at least one paycheck. Pre-employment drug testing is meant to filter out the bums that can't even lay off the shit for a month or two.
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Sidney Bledgeway - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 06:14:25 EST CKYnP0en No.30692 Reply
>trees

you need to go back

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