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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Tramadol Detox

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- Mon, 06 May 2019 14:41:20 EST jzFEcV5d No.30356
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Today is day 1 in my attempt to kick this shit for good, decided to do it cold-turkey since tapering didn't work before.
Some background, been using for about 5yrs, last year the dose went up to 500mg daily. I'm diagnosed bipolar type 2 disorder so also taking 20mg of Valium and 75mg of Pregabalin daily (my doc doesn't know about the tramadol), not planning on quitting those soon.
Already took care of business and have the week off work so figured out this is the time to do it. Just came back from thr pharmacy and got me some loperamide, benadryl and parecetamol (heard it helps with cramps), also have some klonopin and prozac in my cabinet but will avoid them unless things get really ugly. Also got a big stash of strong weed to help.

What am I in for? So far its been 24hs since last pill so the ride has just begun.
Any tips? (I live in SA so no Kratom here)

Thanks
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Cornelius Dongerwore - Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:28:34 EST jzFEcV5d No.30419 Reply
OP reporting 1 month later.
Still clean, physical symptoms seem to be gone, still waiting for my motivation an libido to come back but I guess that part can take some time, really hope they come back soon. Depression is there alright but realized that I gotten so used to it that it's something I can manage (and pregabalin works to keep it in check).
Last week decided to start working out and got a pretty bad flu the day after so fuck me, but I'll try again once I'm feeling better.
Still get some cravings, specially during the daytime when weed is not an option, but it doesn't affect me as much.
Came clean to a few friends but still haven't done so to my doctor, maybe on my next appointment in a few months. If for some reason he cuts me off the valium and lyrica things might get ugly, but I doubt he will do it.
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Cornelius Saffingsot - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:35:25 EST zo0Jnfbb No.30432 Reply
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day ten with no booze.
this shit sucks but I am feeling better.
stay strong friends.
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Lillian Snodhall - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 04:01:03 EST EHecVJbz No.30449 Reply
>>30432
I kinda think, that drug use, put as much effert into not doing these, as one does doing them.

Emptiness

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- Tue, 18 Jun 2019 02:31:02 EST qcYw9UQY No.30440
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Recently I took a heroic dose of shrooms with the intent of curing my alcohol problem (about 3 shots or more a day). Now that I've been sober for a month, my feelings are strange. I have no cravings for anything and it feels like the shrooms reset my brain. Alcohol feels like a distant memory and I can't even remember what being drunk felt like, nor what my urges were.

The sensation of something missing is overwhelming at times. My body is confused why it hasn't become intoxicated in awhile, yet I no longer feel the need or want to drink. Are there healthy ways of overcoming this emptiness?
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Nathaniel Tootstock - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:18:16 EST rl4uHNmE No.30441 Reply
>>30440
Hey - wow firstly well done to you! I've heard of shrooms being used to help reset the brain for addiction, but you're the first person I've come across who has done it. Interesting how that's worked for you! Anyway regarding your question - sounds like you need to find a hobby. I know this sounds cliche, but the more you can find to do, the less empty you will feel for sure. Loads of people always say exercise helps - for me personally, I was never a fan of going for a run and stuff. It never did it for me - but I've been modding my car since getting clean from Opi's and that's working really well for me so far! I guess everyone is different, but have a think about what you might like to do / save towards - get a little project going and occupy your time with goals related to that. Or just making simple 'to-do' lists for stuff and then ticking stuff off as you make your way through the list - that gives a good sense of achievement and keeps you focused rather than feeling empty. Again, this is just stuff that's working for me, but it does seem to be stuff that I've heard come up in proper detox therapy sessions, so there must be something in it lol. All the best

drugs, overdose,detoxing

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- Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:52:57 EST Zo/0yT1I No.30427
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ive recovered from an oxy addiction on my own. oxy is probably one of the best drugs ive ever had and by far my favorite. im not sure if its bc im schizo or anything but i had no withdrawal symptoms. i was sick of spending all my money on drugs so i just stopped. i stopped doing oxy,weed and coke. the most i got was a slight headache. i think theres something seriously wrong with my body or its fucking insane. i overdosed once on oxy and it was terrible, i overheated bc i snorted 30mg of oxy then took a very hot bath. not even 30 mins in i threw up and was shaking on my. athroom floor.... i think my body is truly indestructible which sucks because im an extremely suicidal person... ive overdosed twice, i didnt even go to the hospital i just drank.a fuck ton of water and rested. i hate the doctors. well anyways, i dont suggest trying to od and staying home... it.. is bad... stay safe everyone <3
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Nathaniel Pubblewater - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:46:08 EST Njn6oOdc No.30428 Reply
you’re not indestructible.
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Nicholas Blatherlock - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:07:10 EST rl4uHNmE No.30429 Reply
I think the only person who needs to stay safe is you OP. I'm sceptical that you've even done any of this shit tbh - I'm sorry but you ain't special. Everyone gets withdrawal from opiates, so you either didn't do Oxy for that long, or you were doing what you thought was Oxy, but was actually not that at all. What's the purpose of this post anyway? You just trying to brag about how hardcore you are or something? Man I think some growing up is in order for you OP - life isn't some casual fucking party. Keep going as you allegedly are, and you will fall on your ass fucking hard. I say this not to rip into you, but as a warning that this mentality will get you nowhere and probably kill you. And yes you can be killed, because no human is indestructible. Only fools think otherwise
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Doris Norringman - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:29:30 EST mYIVlqFO No.30431 Reply
>>30427
30mg aint shit. you didnt come close to oding. I know retards that have taken like 300mg+. No clue how. But they survived with minimal brain cell loss.. so I assume it's possible

stigma against daily use

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- Wed, 15 May 2019 10:56:49 EST 3yFaX8Q9 No.30383
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Why is there a stigma against non-social drug use i.e. using alone, in school or at work?

A girl who liked weed and cocaine was saying I shouldn't be taking pills (was taking tablets of valium) in school. Not overdoing it obviously and I wasn't acting fucked up but there's still judgement. Why?

The same even with alcohol. I can understand when operating machinery but what's wrong with taking 1mg pill before a test?
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Nell Bardbanks - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 17:27:00 EST 1wucISbS No.30397 Reply
>>30384
The stigma applies to downers for very good reasons 1) dependence and 2) withdrawal that contains crying, twitching, hallucinations and insomnia.

Quitting coffee cold turkey just makes you tired and unable to focus. Same applies to amphetamines although quitting that shit might give you depression so bad that it's a few sick days. But not like earth is shaking sick days you get from opioids for 3 days or from benzos for up to a month.
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Wesley Giggleham - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 09:46:26 EST gbuZg/D3 No.30401 Reply
People hate those who are weak more than anything. Taking drugs for fun every now and then is fine, but when you go around doing it all the time people assume it's because it's a crutch that you need in order to get through life. You will be treated like scum for your weakness.
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Cyril Chankinman - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 15:40:52 EST rl4uHNmE No.30403 Reply
>>30401
I'm not so sure about this - I mean certain people will do for sure, but in general I dont think that's the general perception? But like with anything, we are all human and will all form opinions of others - or in this case, their substance abuse. I think its just human nature to judge and compare to those around you

I'm never doing Xan again.

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- Fri, 19 Apr 2019 02:09:35 EST L40/xCq+ No.30322
File: 1555654175630.png -(1213167B / 1.16MB, 1000x1414) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I'm never doing Xan again.
A little backstory on why: I'm prescribed Xan , but I haven't needed it often thus I have a large surplus. I'm going through some of the biggest stressors of my life right now like moving a very long distance, along with various related and non-related legalities. As such, I've been taking it more and more frequently to cope, sometimes twice or more a day since I have the surplus.

I've been feeling my cognition, memory, and motor skills make a gradual decline over time, but I felt like I was able to manage it until today. I almost ran over a fucking girl who ran the crosswalk. I should have seen and reacted to it an order of magnitude quicker. Now I feel like complete shit. I've decided that I'm going to throw all of it out and never touch the stuff again.

I quit a benzo cold turkey a very long time ago after I was tired of the ineffective drugs and medical systems in place in society. It sucked and I felt like I was going to die, but ultimately I was fine. I shall do the same again and bite the bullet even if it's worse this time.

I thought that fuck Xan was a meme and that I could handle anything but seriously, fuck Xan, I'll find my chill another way. Thanks for letting me vent here.
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Rebecca Chullerket - Fri, 03 May 2019 05:29:32 EST PsAlkMqp No.30348 Reply
>>30322
Wait till you learn how to drink hard liquor lmao
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Rebecca Chullerket - Fri, 03 May 2019 05:30:22 EST PsAlkMqp No.30349 Reply
>>30324
Why regret anything when you can just get mad
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Archie Borrybog - Thu, 23 May 2019 16:17:24 EST r6Ti9HoG No.30391 Reply
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>>30322
I've never had a addiction to benzos, But when I tapered off of suboxone. Dr had me on benzos for 3 months. I also take gabapentin and when I stopped taking Xanax and Valium. No WD, nothing.

I believe Gabapentin produces glutamate just like benzos and barbs
so think of gabapentin as basically a non-addictive version of suboxone or methadone for benzos

Just go to a DR and ask for Gabapentin 600 or 800mg

Lyrica works just as well but its addictive.

I can gaurentee this will work.

Day 1 off heroin/fent

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- Tue, 07 May 2019 23:21:40 EST mhnNYyLy No.30362
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aw shit, here we go again..
19 hours in, any encouragement is great. i work 12 hour shifts, but don't have to work until thursday. but that's gonna suck.
for reference, i use a quarter to a G/daily, smoked.
im just so sick of this shit. been at it for almost 10 years, on methadone right now & hoping to go on suboxone soon.

honestly, i just needed to write this out to keep myself accountable.
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Cedric Buzzville - Wed, 08 May 2019 15:32:12 EST rl4uHNmE No.30366 Reply
Mate I wish you all the best to pull through this and come out the other side. I'm currently clean but have had my fair share of relapses with H - but I really do feel this time I will remain clean. It's the best feeling to finally be free and not have the shit hanging over you! Just keep focusing on the benefits- withdrawal will suck, but sounds like you have opiate substitute medication at least. Just keep honest to yourself and do it for you.
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Charles Gonkinhodging - Thu, 09 May 2019 15:41:28 EST rl4uHNmE No.30372 Reply
Any updates OP?? Are you still holding out and with us?
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Nathaniel Gengerlock - Sat, 11 May 2019 14:55:14 EST rl4uHNmE No.30379 Reply
Well this isn't looking promising- no further comments from OP... If you are still fighting out there, I hope you are doing ok. If you lost this battle, it's ok- pick yourself up, do some prep and try again. Kicking it IS possible and everyone is deserving of closing the door on a lifestyle they no longer want. It just takes a few times sometimes...

pre employment drug test

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- Tue, 26 Jun 2018 17:01:25 EST oU62K+Qd No.29980
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so i'm a lurker here and there, don't really post a lot but i'm super anxious about this upcoming drug test. i could post this anywhere else, but i don't want anyone i know irl to see that i smoke weed.

anyway, i've been clean for well over half a year (was on the job market). never did anything harder than weed, it helps me relax, keeps my migraines at bay, etc... like most people. i started smoking daily about 6 weeks ago because the stress was just that bad. well, my amazing luck had it that a recruiter from a hiring agency found me a very promising lead! i've had at LEAST 10 recruiters in these past 6 months say the same spiel and never contact me again so i honestly didn't expect to even be asked in for an interview.

well, as of yesterday, i had received a job offer. the client? an international bank looking to add people to their information security team. i will be a contracted employee if everything goes through, which at the moment, the only things i have left to submit are my identification forms, and a drug test.

with this company i heard it's either piss or oral testing, but because of the position i feel like it'll be a piss test. i've already made arrangements with a friend to take care of that "what if", who will slip me some fake pee. but... i'm super stressed out now.

i'm not really asking for help (advice is welcomed tho lol) but rather to calm my nerves through talking about it. i've heard these hiring agencies tend to do their drug tests on site and get the results quickly (and not exactly accurately), so i'll hopefully be done with this all in 2 days and know for sure by friday my start date. i really want to just smoke one now and vigorously wash my mouth in the event it is an oral swab....
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Cedric Gaffingnotch - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 16:37:10 EST W6VmNW88 No.30341 Reply
>>30339
>>30340
you have a better shot, day of the test you need to chug down a ton of water (more than usual) and take some B-vitamins so your piss isn't clear. protip: try to capture the middle of your stream in the cup, the beginning and the end are said to have the most shit in it. may just be broscience, but it can't hurt.
if you expect a hair test, look into the "macujo method" i can couch for it. your hair will be shit and brittle but it works. I passed a hair test with only a 3 day heads up. technically two, but they told me to come back the next day because i had hairgel in my hair
i.e i drink about a gallon of water a day, but i slammed back 2 gallons the day before the test with some creatine and about 3 b-vitamin pills
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Charles Clellycocke - Sat, 04 May 2019 20:32:04 EST YBkL47ZV No.30351 Reply
>>30341
Watch out about too much water. It can shut down kidneys or something.
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Jack Blenningford - Sun, 05 May 2019 10:15:05 EST DKxfKlAP No.30355 Reply
>>30351
Also the lack of salt outside your cells will fuck up your osmosis and homeostasis if you really drown yourself. Just start drinking like a liter an hour four hours before the test; the urine should be clear by hour three or so.

Opiates

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- Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:04:00 EST u7ktqwo/ No.30318
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This is gonna sound faggy but I have been addicted to codeine ffor like 9 months and I recently got off of it(3 weeks!) And I had no withdrawl symptoms except for some cravings which I cured with some good ol reefer. Is this normal? Could it be the weed that helped me or something else? I even asked my doc and hes clueless aswell so I'm wondering if I could get and answer
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Edwin Pattingford - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 03:04:15 EST DKxfKlAP No.30319 Reply
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>>30318
You know I couldn't say. I've never been addicted to codeine but I've abused it. I never got withdrawals but ended up needing a dick catheter so that was fun. It sounds like you substituted a shitty drug for a gentler one though, so kudos! Maybe smonkin' roofer helped your endogenous cannabinoid system to balance and that alleviated any cessation anxiety, I dunno. Sorry I'm not more useful but this board needs activity like I need clean urine
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Frederick Sasslefuck - Wed, 01 May 2019 15:21:00 EST rl4uHNmE No.30346 Reply
If this is your first time doing anything opiate based, then the withdrawal may have been mild and then masked by smoking weed? Just dont try doing it again - your brain now knows opiates and will easily get addicted again - and withdrawal gets worse each time you have to go through that shit, trust me! And never get tempted by trying 'stronger' stuff - it will have you on your ass and rip your soul from you. I'm currently detoxing from heroin, but it wasn't all that long ago I was messing around with codeine. I climbed that ladder and fell from a great height - I sucks and I hate myself for the choices that got me here
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Hamilton Munkinmork - Sat, 04 May 2019 22:11:27 EST nlDzS/JS No.30352 Reply
>>30318
stay the fuck away from opiates. seriously, request a fucking tylanol 500 before getting them

Dreams about doing cocaine makes me want to do cocaine

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- Wed, 01 May 2019 12:34:18 EST WYEQEAy0 No.30345
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I haven't done any cocaine in over a year (January of 2018), and stopped hanging around with the people who did around the same time. Recently though I've been having reoccurring dreams of doing cocaine. About a week ago i dreamed I was in a typical social setting and I dreamed the actual process of doing the cocaine, I felt the powder and saw it going up in my nose, like there was a camera filming the intricate details of me snorting.

Last night I dreamed my old coke dealer was in my old parents home (I haven't lived with my parents in 7 years, and he had never been to my parents house), and we were doing lines on my glass computer desk. The coke was the best I had ever had but I wasn't sure how I was going to sleep, I don't really remember the rest, but I ended up doing the coke and then wiping it all off the table when I heard my father nearby. My coke dealer ended up attacking me in the dream as well, he tackled me and started beating the shit out of me.

My parents don't even know about my cocaine use, but I'm assuming the most recent dream has something to do with guilt. Anyway this is REALLY making me want to buy cocaine and text my old dealer, even if he might not answer. But I know what that leads to, and I can't afford it neither can my nose...
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Rebecca Chullerket - Fri, 03 May 2019 05:28:49 EST PsAlkMqp No.30347 Reply
>>30345
I glanced over OP but you mentioned cocaine like 10 times so imma recommend you some ug acid lsd. Do it gayboi it balances out the coke

Can I pass?

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- Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:52:41 EST yES5CEC7 No.30311
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Hey /detox/. I’ve got a drug test coming up sometime on or after May 20th. I recently smoked a quarter oz over the course of a week, but I quit smoking on the 6th or 7th of this month. I’m 173Ibs and 5’8”. I’m pretty confident that it’s gonna be a piss test, and I’ve been drinking a lot of water to try and clean out my system. I’m also considering the possibility of getting back into running (I used to be able to run a 5k 3-4 times a week). You guys think I have a chance of passing? I’m pretty nervous and paranoid with this whole situation. Thanks for any advice you can provide.
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Jarvis Puddlechudge - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:19:20 EST eVQ5Y21i No.30325 Reply
By then you will have been clean for over a month. Continue to abstain and you will almost certainly be fine. Just don't be one of those retards that smokes a bowl thinking he can get away with it and throw away all your progress.
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Hugh Pockwater - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 11:48:37 EST XwPqIcJ+ No.30327 Reply
>>30320
I thinks it's also fair to note that various fruit juices work better than water. They replace nutrients that would be flushed by drinking a lot of water, which can cause a false positive in some cases like probation. Which isn't necessarily a problem for op, but it never hurts to be safe. Cranberry juice is my go to.
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Sidney Pitthood - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:41:26 EST DKxfKlAP No.30334 Reply
>>30327
Ooh,I love me some fruit juice. Really almost any kind of fruit juice will do me, but OJ and apple juice are two of my favorites. For exotics I like mango and pineapple stuff, though if we wanna get organic in this bitch I'm sure most mango and/or pineapple juices are at most 3% actual juice.

Alcohol moderation thread

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- Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:01:33 EST oGVyIvhg No.29956
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I'm no quitter. But I'm coming off of a bender that was pretty great. I'm now in my second day of moderation.
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Cyril Bardspear - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 02:45:11 EST gPtZreQW No.30315 Reply
>>30280
30 or so beers a day is way too much. You can get by with 40 per night and work or something during the day. If anything, reset your drinking amounts to minimal in comparison. One may notice they can actually get by pretty well with a strong buzz
or fair buzz and sleep. Without kinda compulsively drinking massive amounts of alcohol just because it's there. One thing is, there is always a point where alcohol, may not be available.
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Thomas Murdman - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 13:27:26 EST P6r5GixG No.30317 Reply
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I strongly recommend you lads to get a prescription for naltrexone. Order it online from an Indian pharmacy if you have to

It's cut down my average drinks per week from 100+ to less than 14. Doing SMART recovery alongside the naltrexone helps too

I quit

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- Tue, 27 Nov 2018 19:25:27 EST /gzNKyEq No.30255
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smoking after ten years vaping also
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Isabella Brindercocke - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 05:33:35 EST 1MqxIP/o No.30265 Reply
>>30264
>This is a slow board

Yeah I imagine people trying to stay off of drugs would probably want to avoid an online community which is focused almost entirely on drugs.
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Hamilton Tootwater - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:33:01 EST qTYZOCuv No.30266 Reply
>>30255
I started vaping yesterday. I do not want to get some kind of cancer from smoking cigs and die. Not worth it at all. All you're doing is killing yourself slowly. Glad I came to my senses.
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Thomas Pembleham - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 07:10:30 EST T3Vem43G No.30316 Reply
>>30255
Congrats OP.
I'm trying to quit smoking too. Got down to 2 cigs a day, was down to 1 cig a day over the last week but smoked a bunch last night because I was on a mephedrone binge. Hasn't been too bad other than that though.

Al-Anon

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- Fri, 01 Mar 2019 01:55:48 EST k5iQMwwM No.30278
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I want to go to an Al-Anon meeting. What's it like?
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adolph hadituptohere - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 04:31:29 EST ZASTjFXm No.30299 Reply
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>>30298 I can't help thinking you got it all wrong I'm 29 years clean and have never ever declined a drink saying "no, I am an alcoholic". I just say I don't drink. Got a job 28 years ago and never have I told anybody I'm an alcoholic/addict, It's an anonymous program after all. Yes I did the steps but took 12, maybe 15 years to do them all, going to regular meeting is what's important. It's not particularly about coffee or tobacco just drugs that change your consciousness to the extent you go to any lengths to get them and they are on your mind all the time. All your friends are using some form of dope.
It's not a cult in my opinion, just a form of spirituality albeit an American one that works for drug addiction if you want to do it and initially it is not easy. If I needed my lawn mowed and asked a newcomer to do it they wouldn't do it. Yet if the Dali Lama asked a follower to do same or the late Jim Jones or David Miscavige of Scientology I am sure that lawn would be mowed...hundreds would volunteer! I'm sure Buddhism works just as well and it's an eight fold path not a 12 step approach but you have to decide to do it and that's the problem with most people, the decision to 'do it'.
The largest number of NA meeting these days is in Iran not the USA just by the by.. Of course there are other methods to stop drinking or using dope however I think AA and NA are the easiest and one gets to regularly see addicts who have overcome the compulsion which is why it is urged newcomers do lots of meetings, that's hope, the first step, that you can do it too. AND, you don't get a medical record outlining what you are on and all the medical fuck up's trying to clean up.
I'd tell you more about myself but you may not be interested. Good luck nonetheless.
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David Medgespear - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 18:30:54 EST cQotqwDz No.30301 Reply
>>30299
> It's an anonymous program after all.

Well, surely probation, courts like to see that you are aattending meetings. So they want proof. Aside, there can be spies. Not being paranoid, or delusional. But like cops taking down license plates at political rallies. Same principle. I went to DUI classes some time back and person would be writing down notes when certain people talk. Where the policy was that anything said was confidential. When certain people spoke, the scribbling would begin. I am sure AA has gotten more sane over the years. But, I believe one can transform AA into another fasion to keep level. As in, not fully relying on it for life. But put the understandings in any direction one want's to go.

But whatever. I know alcohol, like other drugs can be surely a burden. Even devastating.
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Cyril Bardspear - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 02:36:45 EST gPtZreQW No.30314 Reply
>>30299
>I can't help thinking you got it all wrong I'm 29 years clean and
>have never ever declined a drink saying "no, I am an alcoholic".
>I just say I don't drink.

Well, things may be different but back when, that was the norm. I can't drink, I am an alcoholic. If one would say they claim otherwise, like I don't drink, they were deemed to be lying to themselves by not saying they are alcoholics/addicts on the spot if the issue arises. Kind of like a scarlet letter if you will. Embroidered onto themselves, by the shame/mistakes of the past.

Now drinking continuously, with problems because of, surely one is likely an alcoholic. But not drinking, surely one can be anything they want, without judging themselves as a non-drinking but lifetime alcoholic.

Eh whatever,

Quitting Drugs & Turning My Life Around

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- Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:59:17 EST ybHRCi9S No.30300
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>been smoking weed since 2011
>have been addicted to it from around 2013 forward
>have wanted to quit since 2014/2015
>life is finally turning around in ways I thought it wouldn't
>started screwing around with Kratom, Hydrocodone, Ativan 2015 forward
>started screwing around with shrooms in 2017 and 2018
>screwed around with a number of other drugs a couple of times over the years (If I didn't mention it, I didn't like it very much)

I've managed to quit all other drugs aside from weed.
The weed I've been smoking the past week is a low quality shake.
I'm fairly certain that my tolerance is the lowest it has ever been - which is making me feel on edge.
Its also making me feel like going and getting some grade A weed... But I won't.

How long does the edge last for weed quitting weed?
Should I try and make the jump into no weed or continue at my current dosage?
I don't care about brain fog so much as I care about being able to handle stress without drugs.
Deep breathing can only do so much when you know the deep relaxation of Ativan and Hydro.
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Archie Brookway - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:42:08 EST NouMKNfz No.30303 Reply
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I smoked every single day between 2010-2018 and I had to drop it cold turkey in December for a new job. Literally nothing happened. If you have trouble sleeping then pop some melatonin but the rest is in your head. If you can quit caffeine then you can quit weed. After a couple weeks you won't even think about it.
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Beatrice Ceddledale - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 08:42:31 EST 0DfVuopA No.30304 Reply
A few days to a couple weeks typically. Your brain fog will wear off, you'll feel more energetic and mentally alert. Your sleep and eating patterns will even out, if they aren't already pretty good. I think what makes it hard for some people is dealing with anxiety or depression on top of that. Just stay positive if that's the case. Maybe reconnect with some old friends or family. Some people can still tolerate their friends who smoke, some can't. I would at least attempt to be the former unless you consistently crave in to smoking around buddies.
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Charles Hebblelotch - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 14:16:17 EST qTYZOCuv No.30306 Reply
I quit smoking weed 6 months ago and havent smoked it since. It was a hard habit to kick. But, I did it and I'm glad I did. Weed was controlling me and I said enough is enough and quit, cold turkey.

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