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Low dose adderall and benzo w/d/

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- Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:26:03 EST Svm8p20v No.31002
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So recently, I've gotten kind of hooked on rc benzos a couple months ago. I just enjoy them too much and tolerance builds too fast. Just got addy script and take it as prescribed, and it seems to reduce the feeling of needing benzos, and it makes me want to get clean off benzos. Keep in mind, I've been taking benzos for only about 2 months.

So the question is, how should I go about this?

Should I slow taper or rapid taper? I think that the increased dopamine in my brain has made it so that the psychological addiction to benzos is reduced, but I fear that adverse effects will occur if I taper too quick.

Been down the benzo road before, and always end up liking it too much. Amph doesn't really make me euphoric, just motivated. What's your take on this?
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Shitting Wangerwell - Thu, 02 Apr 2020 16:51:40 EST Svm8p20v No.31005 Reply
>>31004
I should be able to stop soon though, as long as the regular doses of amphetamine continues (10 mg per day), I stay motivated enough to slow down.

Only issue is that the addy lasts about 12 hours, and once it wears off, my cravings for benzo binging comes back. Tapering rn, but still will have the occasional day where I just don't take my meds (don't want to waste them on a day I won't need them for work/school) and the cravings for benzos come back. I really fucked my benzo tolerance up pretty bad, and last time I went cold turkey, I ended up having weird physical side effects and fucked anxiety.
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Augustus Guffingshaw - Sat, 04 Apr 2020 08:13:44 EST RP8uzkhI No.31006 Reply
>>31004
It would suck but it would not be dangerous at your level.
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Hugh Gennerbanks - Sat, 04 Apr 2020 15:57:24 EST Svm8p20v No.31007 Reply
>>31006
You are correct, but even the minor symptoms make it so that just driving to work is dangerous. Almost got into a car wreck yesterday because of the confusion effects starting to take place after rapidly reducing my dose.

Supplements to pass a drug test (thc) ?

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- Wed, 11 Mar 2020 07:21:46 EST NxsBlg2T No.30965
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Long story short I got offered a really good paying job but I need to pass a drug test before it's official. I'm only one week clean and was smoking consistently for months before that. I have 7 more days before I have to take the test.

I'm really hating myself for smoking weed but I really need to get clean in these 7 days time. Q Carbo hasn't worked for me in the last. I'm willing to spend a good bit of money to pass this test because the money this job pays will far outweigh the cost.

What are my best options? I know I should have been smarter, but pissing clean naturally is not an option right now. Are there any detox drinks on the market that actually work?
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Archie Grandspear - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 13:06:06 EST CgBEsghk No.30984 Reply
>>30978
Working out helps burn the fat cells in your body and THC is stored in fat, idk about hydrocodone.

>>30979
Where I live those are the cutoff levels.
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Charlotte Fodgecocke - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 06:48:17 EST LNUKrcsX No.30987 Reply
>>30984
I promise it's not even universally true "where you live".
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Jack Dibblefad - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:29 EST oEP0+VWz No.30996 Reply
>>30980

of course they don't. every chemical has its own metabolic pathway through the body. different organs go through different steps to convert it though a chain of reactions. generally speaking all drugs get to your bloodstream somehow, but the way they get in and out of the blood varies wildly.

Switching from methadone to suboxone

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- Sat, 22 Feb 2020 17:46:40 EST Js/rb1IM No.30927
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What is the best way to transition to suboxone from methadone? I take 50mg a day currently and most people have said to taper to under 30mg then dont take your methadone for 3-5 days and then dose suboxone. Others have said that its easier and safer to just stop taking methadone for 7-10 days then withdrawal for 24 hours and start induction into suboxone.
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Charles Snodwill - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 07:10:56 EST HIqnk4Lz No.30929 Reply
Well at least the actual detox thread gets bumped to the top from time to time.
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dr. m - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 20:27:41 EST MKZ4RFFW No.30944 Reply
>>30927
There is no good way to switch from methadone to suboxone/subutex. You can easily get precipitated withdrawal from taking sub as long as 7-10 days after your last dose of methadone. Also, if you dose higher than ~20-30mg of methadone/day, suboxone will be inadequate for your withdrawals no matter how much sub you take.

You should get your methadone dose reduced by 10% every 7 days until you're between mild and moderate withdrawals. At that point, don't reduce your dose until you've stabilized and only have minor WD. Go 50>45>40>36>32>29>26>23>21>19, so that's at best 9 weeks if you can somehow manage it, and at something like 15-20mg max you can considered going CT, or rapid taper like dropping from 19>15>10>5 in three days before doing at least 5 whole days before sub induction, or 7 days if you can manage it.

If it gets really bad I'd recommend using low doses of kratom, like 3-4g max once every 6-8 hours, or 2g every 3-4 hours. Dont exceed like 8-10g per day and try to roughly taper that too. It has a short duration and sub doesn't really cause precip WD from kratom because it's so weak. You can use extremely limited low dose lope at this time too, like 8-12mg max/day and never all at once, and not using lope for 3-4 days before subs.

Once it's time to use subs, dose NO MORE than between 0.25-1mg max at first (1/8th of an 8mg strip), and wait at least 45-90 minutes to dose higher. If you feel worse after taking it, DO NOT take more. Instead, wait 12-24hr longer and dose another 0.25-1mg.

If 0.5mg or 1mg doesn't feel bad, take another 0.5-1mg 45-90min later. Slowly repeat this process without getting impatient. Once you reach 6-8mg, as long as you didn't swallow all your saliva, you're pretty much free from precip WD risk. Also, anything over ~8-12mg/day sublingual or ~5.33-8mg nasal/rectal is pretty much a complete waste, and anything over 16mg/day is useless.

Let me know if we can help with anything else. You're way better off doing a slow multi-month taper before getting off opioids entirely, even if you end up on naltrexone later. It helps reverse the changes in your brain from being on 'done for so long and blocks opioids from getting you high much better than 'done does.
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Betsy Mammledale - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 01:13:37 EST 6jfg7hmI No.30993 Reply
>>30927
Drop down to 15mg methadone or lower, take the time that you need to taper. You only need to wait 24 hours between doses to move onto suboxone when you're on a lower dose.

Naltrexone

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- Wed, 15 Jan 2020 23:54:40 EST x60f3sEw No.30822
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Anyone tried to get their drinking under control with naltrexone? I've mostly heard good results with it, any recommendations to help increase my chances of success?

I can't keep drinking, it's slowly destroying me. I want out but I just can't stop myself.
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Isabella Sattingkore - Fri, 17 Jan 2020 08:54:16 EST bjXwSxEu No.30827 Reply
The thing that's most important is when you want a drink, you must have it firmly in your mind that you can't do it. You need to get your mind refocused.
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Molly Feddlefield - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 07:55:30 EST RYEFAtNw No.30906 Reply
I was miserable on Naltrexone. I've heard of others having success but I hated it and my friend basically went through alcohol withdrawals all over again on it.
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Ghengis Dong - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:47:10 EST hL6fVnhh No.30992 Reply
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>>30822
My alcohol and cigarette consumption went skyrocketing this week with them laying off half my team at work and docking my pay.

Reached a head this Saturday when I woke up at 7am and drank more whiskey until I passed out. Woke up ~2pm and drank some water and immediately vomited with a significant amount of BLOOD (I also hadn't eaten in over 48 hours so it definitely wasn't something I'd eaten).

I've been avoiding drinking since then and had just one cigarette (I know that's the last thing I should be doing with stomach bleeding). But am worried I'll be a mess gong into work tomorrow. (Live in DC, but they're still forcing me to come in)

no weed/ light drinking

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- Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:38:28 EST c4+m6mHq No.30983
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being w/o weed is nice. I don't think I'd go back. being drunk is cool but i dont like doing it too much. i guess i'm getting old

2020 Sobriety

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- Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:35:52 EST XysIMNdW No.30787
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So I've decided that there's a lot of things I'm going to leave behind in the 2020s:

  • alcohol
  • cigarettes
  • hard drugs (mostly cocaine)

I've already stopped drinking for most of December, and I'm feeling a lot better and don't really feel the urge to drink anymore. I've not smoked in a similar amount of time, and not drinking really helps with both tobacco and other drugs. I've bought a bunch of green tea, and I'm planning on staying home, drinking tea and reading instead of going to the bar. I've also been leaving my credit card at home when I go out, so I don't have the temptation to just stop for a drink or two. I've also decided that a larger lifestyle change would be a good idea in the light of stopping these unhealthy habits, so I've decided to take up karate again.

Anyone have any personal stories of quitting substances in this way? Any tips for staying sober in the long term?
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Sophie Pittspear - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 21:34:42 EST NXWMINeU No.30842 Reply
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So how are you holding up OP? I'm around 4 weeks in now. Still craving snus but the worst of it seems to be over.

Been using that awful smokey mountain tobacco free herbal snuff. It's just licorice and stuff, no nicotine. Keeps the habit part from feeling out of control without the addictiveness. Hoping to taper off needing something in my lip over the next month
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Wesley Buzzworth - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:11:57 EST GKfIuNQ5 No.30969 Reply
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This is me from >>30842 here reporting in. I guess this would complete 11 weeks or so. Haven't touched tobacco or nicotine since. Haven't even used the herbal stuff since early February.

Of course, no more withdrawals or real cravings... however every couple of days I still get these random intense feelings of irritability and all I can think is how nice it would be to have some snus. Also when I get bored I want it. That's all psychological, and I guess may last the rest of my life.

Hang in there OP hope you've been well.
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Walter Penningfield - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 00:45:42 EST G1Czr42T No.30981 Reply
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Im in a similar boat. I've got a broken foot so I'm using this time to stay clean and get my head right. I've drank a couple times, no cigs, and used meth once in the last three months. I'm actually enjoying being sober, I feel a lot better most days. It's nice not being paranoid or having rebound anxiety after a drinking binge.

Some things that have helped are filling that time with hobbies. Reading, playing guitar, watching documentaries, exploring the dark web. It's been awhile since I've enjoyed anything sober. Chatting on forums has been fun. I downloaded discord today and I wanna start jumping into conversations. Exercise and meditation are something I want to work into my routine.

Stick with it dude! You gotta pump the breaks sometimes or else things get get out of hand. I've wanted to get clean for so long. All I can say is that it is a process and not an easy one. I'm trying to accept the fact that I should not do anything that isn't a psychedelic. Once I go down that other path my life becomes unmanageable. Good luck buddy! My discord is comatoast if ya ever feel like chatting it up.

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- Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:54:41 EST 2zicJC3/ No.30968
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Samuel Billerdale - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 19:22:04 EST q/gGvUzA No.30985 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE

Placebos for Amphetamine

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- Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:10:13 EST fFcCFMIR No.30908
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I'm a recovering addict with ADD, BPD, and CPTSD. A year ago, I was heavily dependent on benzos, phenibut, and alcohol, but after detox I've mostly been able to stay sober. The problem is now I find myself abusing my prescriptions for ADD to numb myself during flashbacks and the like. This used to be Dexedrine, but recently I asked to be switched to Vyvanse since it's harder to abuse, but still find myself abusing it anyway despite not enjoying the effects when you take more of it than intended.

I noticed there's an immediate relief when I chew the capsules though. This is clearly not because of the drug taking effect, since it needs to be metabolized by the liver before the drug will even do anything for me. Is there a benign substance out there that comes in a powder and tastes like amphetamine that I can fill some capsules with?
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Matilda Samblebodging - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:24:35 EST 5pZpVPjX No.30916 Reply
You don't need a crutch, you need the ability to decide to refuse to hide behind your addiction. You apparently do not have this ability if you're just white knuckling your abstinence by using other stims.
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m - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 20:48:47 EST MKZ4RFFW No.30945 Reply
Placebo doesn't really work if you know it's placebo. The relief you feel is due to anticipation of effects that you've established through persistent, consistent cause and effect, i.e. you take a particular color and textured capsule and it always has the effect of amphetamines. Doing this is not going to work when you know for sure it's not real. If it somehow occurs the first or second time, that connection will rapidly continue to weaken.

I recommend sticking only to oral use and only dosing once a say period. You can't responsibly decide when it's a "good" time to dose or redose, because it's almost always a good time. If you already only use orally and still can't control yourself, you need to give your shit to a responsible adult who can dispense them for you.

Honestly, you should just taper down somewhat slowly and replace it with preferably armodafinil or regular modafinil. I've had similar albeit much more mild problems with dexedrine/adderall IR in the past, but ultimately I just sucked it up and stopped taking extra. You understand that this drug makes BPD WAY WAY worse, right? It's generally not advisable to take hard stimulants if you have BPD.

I'm scripted 60mg dex IR/day or 60-80mg addy IR/day depending, and these days I tend to only take 30-35mg/day. After a while taking more doesn't even do anything, especially with vyvanse.

Order some modafinil/armodafinil ASAP, preferably in legitimate tablet form. Then start tapering down, even if it's just 10% every week. Use a 0.001g scale like a Gemini-20 if you have to resort to chopping up pills or splitting up capsule contents.

How are you even able to sleep properly when you binge redose oral vyvanse? That shit is a nightmare. While it's true that Vyvanse is like a Dexedrine anti-abuse super-XR, I highly recommend Dexedrine IR or I guess XR instead of Adderall. Adderall is more jittery and anxiety-inducing, and IME more prone to causing mania.
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yf - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 23:20:24 EST jw0grZDG No.30950 Reply
>>30908
Hi

Im in the same boat. I heard about timed safes.Amazon has some. I've been considering it so I dont redose my addy.

good luck. this shit sucks sometimes

Powdered urine kit

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- Sat, 29 Feb 2020 07:51:37 EST bWmEQ3nl No.30932
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So I just bought one of these powdered urine kits (real urine, not synthetic) and I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with them?
My own research tells me they're legit but I'd appreciate some input from someone here.
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Nathaniel Buzzwell - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 11:06:49 EST P1TX8bNd No.30938 Reply
Nothing beats the taste of the real thing.

Urine test and QCarbo

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- Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:32:40 EST HxysIUN4 No.30823
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Anyone ever used QCarbo to try and pass a drug test?

I have a urine test today and the last time I smoked was 4 days ago so there's no I can pass naturally. Qcarbo 20 was the only detox drink I was able to get on short notice. I know the odds aren't the best with QCarbo but it's my last line of defense.

Since this board moves slow I suspect I'll most likely be updating this after most likely fail.
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m - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 00:31:37 EST w0idoX9F No.30905 Reply
>>30849
There's no detox drink I'd trust with my life unless I only smoked a max of like just 0.5g per week and only on 1-2 days per week max. Even then, use either someone else's clean piss that's under 12 hours old with the hand warmers no microwave, or just use the newest edition of Quick Fix that's available from a reputable web site or local store, and be sure to call the company and verify the serial #/info on back is correct, newest edition or maybe the 1 before it, and doesn't expire before you'll need to use it.

I can't fake my piss tests as they test for what I'm scripted as well, but I'm only tested every 30 days, usually every 90 days. Unfortunately, the test limit is 10ng/ml, 5x more sensitive than normal tests, so realistically I have to only use like twice a month and wait at least one whole month before the test detoxing and still need to chug water take creatine and dilute the sample. So basically it's not worth doing.

Cocaine

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- Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:25:19 EST VX0tZUmX No.30854
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>No fap
No issues
>Quit smoking
Difficult but okay, just used to the rhytm which is the jardest part
>Quit weed
Took almost no effort
>Started doing cocaine.

If I have no issues with most drugs will this finally be the one to fuck me up? Any regular users of cocaine care to share whether they are addicted or not and how and why? And how difficult would it be able to kick after 5 months of 2 grams a week? I doubt I'll get any physical effects.
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Esther Chesslehood - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 08:33:35 EST NXWMINeU No.30860 Reply
>>30854

I dont know how but my reply ended up in that bot thread. Bumping with >>30859 (pun sort of intended)
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Charlotte Drullybanks - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 03:53:16 EST 7PmVbQ9w No.30903 Reply
>>30854
Depends man, usually you'll know when you're doing a drug that you've got a high affinity towards. When I got some trams once, I knew immediately that that shit could get me hooked easy since it was better than anything else i had tried. If cocaine is that to you, then you'll be smart enough to stay away from it I'd figure.

Where are you guys at?

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- Sun, 02 Feb 2020 09:27:43 EST 4pNq8w17 No.30885
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Shout out to anyone who clicked on this for support in getting or staying off droogs or alcohol.

Not Drinking

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- Sun, 12 Jan 2020 19:34:59 EST kSvrQ2jm No.30810
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>2 weeks without a drink
Tell me /detox/ does this get any easier? Because right now shit sucks
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Nathaniel Sunkinhood - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:29:24 EST VX0tZUmX No.30855 Reply
>>30810
It gets easier. A Dutch comic once said on detox: 'The clinic advised me to jerk off, take a cold shower or eat a snickers. You don't know how many times I have stood in the shower eating a snickers while tugging on my dick' The cravings and coping will get less. Just pick up a functional life with jobs or volunteer work, fill the void and those cravings will go down. Temptation will stay.
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Molly Crallylatch - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 11:35:52 EST UGEd0vS7 No.30856 Reply
I'm trying to quit as well. I've been getting shitfaced since last September pretty much each day. I figured I need to quit because it's gonna kill me otherwise. I hope I'll make it, shit's tough. Good luck
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Cyril Coffingwitch - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 12:18:16 EST ziMXDuqS No.30857 Reply
>>30856
That's the hardest shit ever, you've just got to make a choice to not do it.

Dodging clozapine

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- Thu, 30 Jan 2020 20:32:58 EST cnV0CaOz No.30851
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Used to smoke a lot of weed. Psychosis kicked in a few years deep. Been off it for about 4 years now, have no intentions to return to it -- journey was good, then it was bad and I had to live my life better. Due to the nature of my condition being eventually classified as persistent and treatment-resistant, they continually upped the meds. Diagnosis stopped being 'cannabis induced psychosis' after a very short time, despite that being the obvious cause to every professional I interacted with.

Long story short, I'm now actually court ordered to take clozapine. I've dealt with it for years now, but it's actively ruining my life and I've got roughly at least half a year more of it before I can get conversations and weaning to the point where a switch in prescription to something less destructive is guaranteed. Around christmas I pretty much said fuck it, I dose myself so I'm just going to stop periodically and figure out a way to avoid it.

The main problem here is because of the potential dangers of 'misprescription' before picking up your meds they test your blood. This happens once every four weeks. I've done enough research to know primarily what they're looking for, essentially measuring white blood cell count. I am not a chemist or a pharmacist, I need to know what else might flag up as shaky, if it is inevitable how much as a minimum I need to keep in my system to avoid complete detection, and remedies to manage side effects that aren't some other kind of pharmaceutical.

For those that have never been on this particular antipsychotic, even with a 1/5th of the dose I usually would have to take, my sleep is minimum 12 hours. I am a skinny fucker with a high metabolism by nature, my weight increased from about 145 to 210 pounds on it. I have to take a second pill to counteract a side effect that will have me wake up in a pool of my own drool without it. (Not just some on your face, imagine drenched pillow, face wet like you just went swimming.) I used to just suffer migraines, genetic. I now have cluster headaches that will last six plus hours . All to treat a condition that effectively doesn't manifest.

Sorry for the long post, there's just nobody I can actually completely say this to.
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Nathaniel Sunkinhood - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:20:15 EST VX0tZUmX No.30852 Reply
>>30851
Do ypu have clozapine? The side effects are really familiar. Try switching to something less heavy when you can desu.
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Nathaniel Sunkinhood - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:21:32 EST VX0tZUmX No.30853 Reply
>>30852
My bad for skimming and not reading. Try other meds. They will be a hit and miss but most can be better against symptoms and still give your lige back. Clozapine is usually a last resort. Plus the blood testing sucks.

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