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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Kind of related

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- Tue, 02 Oct 2018 13:53:31 EST grYUeEhO No.30193
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Sup /dox/ I posted this in /weed/ and all I got was unfelpful aspies. I live in a halfway house for recently released convicts. We get drug tested On Mondays and fridays. So on Monday
I got a prerolled joint from the smoke shop and it says "150mgs of CBD, .03% thc." It was pretty good substitute, but now I'm worried about my Friday drug test. The websites I've read all say that such a low dose of THC wont make me piss dirty, but then the aspies on /weed/ told me I'm the Big Fucc for the next piss cup. I dont think I'll pop dirty, but I figured I'd ask you guys.
In case it matters, Im 6ft and 170 lbs. Please put my mind at ease
Nelson Nuggets - Tue, 02 Oct 2018 17:28:19 EST FgY9dXvN No.30195 Reply
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Dude i think you are gonna be fine, i can't promise you that but i'm sure .03 thc will not be a big deal. Besides urine testing isn't 100% accurate you are bound to be under the threshold they are looking for. Best of luck my man.


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- Sat, 08 Sep 2018 23:19:26 EST xQUWjbqB No.30128
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The BIG problem with quitting substances is you're suddenly aware of the time, and everything just feels so hollow and empty. Without booze or opiates, or at least benzos, nothing even feels real. Video games aren't fun, watching TV makes you feel like shit.

You start to realize that old habits you had like eating out were really just excuses for you to get shit-faced with your friends, which covered up some of the guilt of that hangover.

But when I'm totally clean, I just have NOTHING to fill my time. People tell me to get a hobby, but honestly the last thing I want to do when I come home from work is do more work. And that's all hobbies feel like to me.

And now everything just feels like I'm staring at 40-50 years of blank space ahead of me - not even like I have to fight something like I would if I was fucked up, but just a big blank space where I don't know what to do. Days blur into one and I feel lost without getting shitfaced, even though I know now that its just a distraction. Wat do?

tl;dr - How did you guys get past the emptiness, loneliness and boredom of sober life?
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Emma Sunkindud - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:34:03 EST puVgg1bS No.30167 Reply
don't let your past relationships define you either. you can become a new person whenever you want. you don't have to rely only on others. if they didn't work out for you, then consider it that it's you that needed someone else. if they abandon you, it could also mean you weren't going out of your way enough to contact them. I have that problem sometimes anyway. texting her a joke just so the lines of communication are open and she's thinking about me, was a foreign concept just because I am used to overthinking. let your feelings be validated but also know when to (more or less) let them go.

acid flashback

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- Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:00:30 EST MZqzvKC6 No.30178
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so i just had myfirst flashback - about 7 or 8 years later.

now what?
Polly Herrywater - Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:52:16 EST 2MokYs/9 No.30189 Reply
Aren't you glad that you got a free acid trip?

detox drinks for cannabis/thc

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- Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:20:15 EST puVgg1bS No.30157
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I assume they only have ones that work for a very short window, and I can't just drink something and suddenly have the system of someone that's been legit clean for a month.

is the assumption correct?
Emma Pullerwater - Wed, 26 Sep 2018 13:34:05 EST MQZr3BK/ No.30183 Reply
Late reply but yeah the idea is that most drinks work by either masking or flushing the metabolites out of your system. The drinks I ordered tell you to not eat anything before drinking it for like 4 or 5 hours, and to drink it like at least 90 minutes prior to your test but that it will give you about 4-5 hours of clean urine. Depending on the color of your urine you may want to take a b-complex vitamin at some point before or during consuming it. Once you drink it you’re suppose to refill it twice with water and drink it all.

THC(?) induced psychosis recovery

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- Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:31:35 EST GTv49qUp No.29947
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Four months ago, I was under some stress and was smoking marijuana weekly, despite it giving me panic attacks. I was foolish and uninformed, and I thought that the each joint would lessen the effects of the previous ones.

Then I smoked two joints in succession in a public place. This was followed by crippling panic attacks for two weeks straight, followed by two months of anxiety.

Now, I'd never been the anxious type. Completely calm, stable, pragmatic, emotionless even. I can/could deal with stress. No history of anything similar in either me or my family. The weed single-handedly triggered all this. Some dormant brain reaction, lurking, waiting for me to be fucking stupid enough to allow it to surface again and again, until it finally takes over completely.

I'd never dealt with anything even remotely similar, so it fucked me up. I felt like a toddler getting blindsided with a tire iron. In the first two weeks, during the panic, I completely lost touch with my old self, while in the following months I was trying to scramble my personality back together. Disorganized, strange thoughts, depersonalization, etc. It still feels like my IQ's dropped by 10 points.

I found this study about people recovering from what I'd experienced - substance-induced psychosis with no prior diagnosis of a psychotic illness. The outcomes weren't... hopeful:

>For this study, the investigators reviewed the long-term outcomes of all persons who received a diagnosis of substance-induced psychosis between 1994 and 2014 and had no prior diagnosis of a psychotic illness — a group of over 6,700 people. The diagnosis of drug-induced psychosis required symptoms lasting at least 48 hours — linked to intoxication with or withdrawal from the drug.

>Over a twenty-year follow-up period, about 41 percent of those who had a psychotic reaction to marijuana developed schizophrenia, and 47 percent developed either schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. About half of those who developed schizophrenia did so within 3.1 years, and half of those who developed bipolar disorder did so within 4.4 years.


WHAT? That leaves just 12% of people that *did* recover? Could I be one of those? I definitely don't have schizophrenia and I don't think I have BPD either, but I'm still depressed, anxious and feel different.

Post any similar stories/advice ITT
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Cyril Wacklesture - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 10:20:16 EST cXy+on2h No.30108 Reply
This happened to me one time a LONG time ago when I became Bi polar Nd wasn't on medication yet. I smoked 2 bowls that night, an hour went by. I couldn't stop the fucked up memories of growing up and the thoughts of killing the person who abused me for years, physical and verbal from entering my mind. I walked down the stairs of my house, walked by a lamp and table. Suddenly I snapped and fucking tore the whole living room up in a violent rage. I forget what happened after that. But, it's been about 10 years since and weed doesn't do that to me anymore since I've been medicated for my anger for a few years.

Whoever says weed cant cause psychosis or bring up any deep seeded mental Illness from within yourself and your mind, are ignorant fucks.
Molly Danderfield - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 22:41:39 EST iHiOPleG No.30141 Reply
did it weed give you psychosis since you have bpd? I always wondered about bpd and if you could be prone to it.
Albert Bendleridge - Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:36:32 EST Zi4uslZ+ No.30150 Reply
This happened to me several years ago. I was prescribed a heavy dose of adderral at the time. From my understanding, too much stimulants can cause "amphetamine psychosis" while using marijuana. I felt the after effects for months. I couldn't even smoke again until years later. It reminds me of a Jim Morrison quote: "any time you take drugs, you are making a bet with your mind." My psychosis was from the stims in concert with thc. It has been about 10 years since then and I get occassional paranoia. In my opinion, having a weed induced panic attack is not that different from having a bad trip on a psychedelic. I wouldn't read in to it too deeply. Its a rabbit hole and if you focus on it too much it will probably exacerbate things. Just try to live a healthy productive life style and take a break from the weed for year and you will likely be fine.

sober misery (posted on /qq/ aswell)

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- Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:01:54 EST Wi4D7hdy No.30144
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I posted this on /qq/ but I thought it might get a quicker response, and more relevant since everyone here's cold turkey:

I quit daily benzos and opiates about a year ago, have had the odd lapse but nothing beyond a day or two's use in that time. Since then, I feel worse and worse. I hate waking up in the morning, at my job I just want to smash everything up and scream, every day I'm counting the minutes til I can leave but then I feel the same way at home, I feel like I'm only resisting suicide for a bunch of selfish self-absorbed cunts who don't want to help me they just don't want to feel guilty if I did kill myself, there's nothing for me in the world I work a shit job I don't have any skills to get a different one, I don't have a girlfriend and I haven't had one or even had sex in three years, I had one perfect girlfriend and I fucked it up and pretty much every day I feel like screaming I just want to go back to the day we fell out and fix everything it's like my head's full of screaming every day I want to just run into the street and beat someone and just not stop until they're fucking dead I want disasters and plagues and terror attacks I want everyone to feel just as miserable and worthless as I do and I don't see how I can go on like this it's exhausting I just want to get back on the drugs or fucking die, all my friends have girlfriends and are getting places and it's pathetic and a miserable way of thinking but I fucking resent them for their happiness, I think their girlfriends are stuck up cunts who won't introduce me to their friends because they don't think I'm good enough for them and I can't even go to the pub because seeing them all happy makes me go home and cry all night and think about killing myself because I'm so fucking lonely and miserable, it's a disgusting attitude but I really want them to break up I can't feel happy for my friends any more and that's not right - I'm dreading christmas, I don't want to go and sit around with my family and hear about what's going right for them, I don't want to sit there conscious that the fat self-important smug prick I call a cousin has a girlfriend and I don't, I just want to follow someone at night and just smash their head in and make them feel helpless and scared like I do, I keep wanting to just smash a bottle and drag it all over my body I have done in the past and it's like the external pain drowns out what's in my head if it's painful enough but I know I can't do that again it's driving me mad I just have all this unpleasant energy in me that I can't get out I don't feel like there's anyone out there for me my friends will all have nice happy families and I'm just going to live in some shithole house with nobody and nothing and they'll all forget about me I feel like if I have to be me and stay alive for everyone else's sake then I don't see why I shouldn't spend my life high it's not fair to have to be a fucking loser and be viscerally aware of it every day

I don't even know what I'm asking or what the point is in this. I guess seeing if any other ex-addicts had/have a similar feeling, wondering if it passes or not. I suppose I just wanted to vent
Doris Sevingmirk - Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:18:13 EST uZJkwyR4 No.30148 Reply
You have depression, it's knowed now whats your problem.
give out of your city, start a new life, make new friends and find another girl. Give out of the country if u want, you're alone right? so you can. These guys who have a girlfriend and will start a family marriage are fucked and trapped in it, different of you. Start a new life and make another something else like you did with drugs, with money, be addict for it, try to be rich about it. Have so things to live for; Status, power, money, and u want to die because of PEOPLES? if u are alone you can make different, you ever'ill can change, make these choice. What you write remember me a depressiv disturbing movie, like guinea pig, WTF life are you creating. Try to win anything nice in these fucking shit what you built right now.
Nell Bluzzlehood - Fri, 21 Sep 2018 23:00:34 EST XRL9GJ8b No.30149 Reply
Do you drink, OP? If you are a regular drinker it can cause a lot of the problems you are describing. I can tell you first hand. I have been there.
Hugh Nicklegold - Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:09:49 EST /rdNQGSC No.30170 Reply
Dude you are high as fuck giving advice about sobriety lmao

Benzo wihdrawl

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- Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:40:22 EST pwqqRz9j No.30116
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I posted this on /benz/ but figured you guys could help too

o i've been taking relatively large (unmeasured powder but i do have a mg scale and have weighed it a few times so i can eyeball decently, doesn't excuse my laziness for not measuring it out every time or making a solution). I'd say between 4-8mg daily for about a month now.

I know I am 100% physically dependent now and currently using alp powder as the etiz was unavailable.

However, when I wake up I honestly don't notice any withdrawl symptoms. Even at 5pm today i didn't necessarily feel any benzo withdrawl (i also take vyvanse and the crash from that never feels pleasant) but I did the toothpick method with the alp cause im terrified of having a seizure.

Would i feel a seizure come on or could it just happen out of the blue, like would my w/ds get progressively worse or could a seizure happen even if i felt fine physically?

Also best way to taper etiz?
Albert Duvingbick - Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:39:05 EST P+lChTbV No.30145 Reply
Those aren't big doses or lengthy duration. Everyone is different, but I wouldn't think a seizure likely and a taper from that would be easy for me maybe even cold turkey. To be on the safe side do a 1 or 2 week taper if you can substitute the etiz or alp for something longer acting like the golden standard diazepam/diclazepam or clonazePAM. Be aware of the build up of metabolites due to the longer acting effects. The Ashton Manual can guide you https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm and there are support forums for benzodiazepines. Don't worry too much, smoke if you feel it is appropriate and stay away from alcohol.

Has anyone quit guys and gal's

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- Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:32:19 EST QWeDtNLX No.30136
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I haven't seen anyone in this forum say they have actually given up the drugs. All seem to be switching from one thing to another to cut back or give up something else, or to pass a drug test for employment. Maybe if one went straight there would be no need to come back here and say so. No one will congratulate you. The few 12 steppers are ridiculed for being brainwashed and/or in a cult although it may be said they stop if you believe them.
If I may give an opinion I'd say it's the dopers who are in a cult and you'll drink the 'cool aid'. The cult is the media. That song by the Kaiser Chiefs Never Miss a Beat says it all. Drugs do change your mood (emotions etc) and it is short term and wears off. But why not change yourselves. Long term and lasting. Anyone out there who has succeeded? How did you actually give up. I hear from psychologist friends that the success rate of stopping substance abuse is 2.5%. The 12 steppers say the long term is Jails institutions and death whereas in my experience most I have known simply become alcoholics and complain about how badly off and mistreated they are.
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David Blannerwater - Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:46:30 EST YwZpcCaL No.30139 Reply
What specific drug is running rampant in Iran? I'm curious now. Enlighten me.
Observerperver - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:26:10 EST ZASTjFXm No.30140 Reply
>>30139 I believe it is smack from my recollections. I'll try and obtain more information if you wish although this may take a while due to my being extremely busy. But I can find out from Psych friends. Patience grasshopper..


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- Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:54:25 EST G1aVshVp No.29965
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How do you guys deal with the post smoking lack of attention, anxiety, depression, and boredom post smoking? After 5 months without smoking I realized I still felt like shit. Didn't feel as physically poisoned and sickly as being a chainsmoker, but still. Is this normal? It feels like a low grade version of how I've heard kicking heroin described. It's bad enough I'm almost considering going back just to feel more with it and productive again.
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John Clepperspear - Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:30 EST p8wgo5ss No.30121 Reply
He's not talking about the addiction phase, obviously it's hard to quit at that point. He's talking about when people first start smoking, despite hearing about all of its bad effects and being previously warned not to. You can try and defend it, but there's no logical defense. It's just fucking stupid. Simple as that.
Lillian Heblingferk - Mon, 03 Sep 2018 02:05:42 EST x6r76l6R No.30125 Reply
Eh, just keep on with not smoking. Regardless. On my moms side of rality all of her friends she grew up with, all pretty much smoked. They are just plain dying left and right. Smoke and dye feeling like shit, or chance it and not smoke and eventually feel like everything is cool.
Stay away from people who smoke, that is what gets me suddenly feeing crappy, where smoking a cig would seem like things would feel Ok again.
Cyril Mannerstotch - Sun, 09 Sep 2018 06:08:03 EST git3aj67 No.30129 Reply
Peer pressure and suggestibility are strong things. It's not stupidity. It's just a lack of understanding of how strong the influences that affect us really are.

speed detox 2.0

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- Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:46:48 EST uh78kIBu No.30123
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how does speed (not meth) detox affect things and feel
and how long does it take.
i have some benzos to weaken the effects what else could you suggest.
been on it for like 2 years and have some final exams in 2.5 months which i have to learn effectifly for, does it even make sense to detox now?
Jenny Cammlestone - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:46 EST rByY0b28 No.30127 Reply
I would say it's better to stay on it and detox after the exams

Having someone else pee

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- Mon, 03 Sep 2018 18:24:27 EST 4AIuxZRr No.30126
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What can they identify off the toxicological results about the one who peed?
Who would be the best candidate to pee in my place?

(I can bring results without anyone checking whether it was me who peed or not, so I'll take advantage of that hehe)


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- Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:27:32 EST Oz9cRT8I No.29863
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It's going to be OK. Let go and let God. Do you have a higher power in your life yet? It can be anything. Alcoholism is a spiritual disease man. Please turn to page 153 of the Big Book ($25 by the coffee table that is one of the traditions we don't take donations). This completes my 240 hours of community service. I'm out of this bitch. Got to go and pay $3000 to get this fucking interlock removed.
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Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:48:53 EST pwqqRz9j No.30119 Reply
i did the same thing on a much smaller scale 6 months total sobriety living in recovery house cause i was strung out on heroin.

As soon as i moved out of the sober house I smoked weed and just smoke weed and take benzos occasionally (which i know is playing with fire) and in November ill have a year off dope
Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:50:06 EST pwqqRz9j No.30120 Reply
btw the benzo use turned into an everyday thing which is not good but luckily i have the means to a constant supply but would like to taper off ASAP


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- Sun, 26 Aug 2018 01:09:18 EST qV11Dc3q No.30109
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What is it like taking one capsule of 1000 mg of Niacin? Bad? Good?

This could either go here or under benzos, but..
Long story short, I got a DUII for marijuana. In diversion currently which requires me to take treatment classes. In these classes they do drug tests each class, which is weekly. Sometimes the tests are weekly, sometimes they skip one, you really don't know.
Being stupid, this morning I stumbled across my old anxiety/depression prescriptions from like 2 years ago. Thought hm why not, I might feel a bit better; been stressing lately because of money shit and other personal issues. I took 2 tablets of 1 mg of clonazopam and 1 tablet of 10 mg of lexapro. Shortly after, realizing those would show up on the test. Tried to vomit them out, no luck.
I figure I'm going to be tested Friday, but my plan this week is to just drink a ton of water throughout the week. I bought a jar of niacin capsules a while ago to try and clear weed from my system. The capsules are 1000 mg though and I'm reading that's usually the max daily. I've read conflicting things like its okay, its not advised, its painful, its pleasant. I'm just looking for insight I guess.

Is this a good idea?
James Brunnerville - Sun, 26 Aug 2018 08:00:32 EST GjQtgtw2 No.30110 Reply
You're going to experience the flushing, itchiness etc if you haven't already been used to taking B3, Also you really don't want to over do it on that shit you'll fuck up your liver or worse, take 500mg everyday while exercising, staying hydrated and it may help you pass your drug test, but tts not guaranteed. Also Clonazepam only stays in your system for 2 days, and i doubt they are testing for SSRIs so im confused what you're worried about?

Geodon 40mg withdrawal

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- Sat, 25 Aug 2018 02:23:58 EST HDOwOJoP No.30106
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First night of quitting after reducing from 40mg twice a day. Feels like a mushroom or acid comedown, seems to be dopaminic, very flu like symptoms, this should be interesting. Anyone else detoxing from antipsychotics? Cheers and have some aluminium fingers for your time.

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