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Synthetic Urine for Drug Test Help.

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- Mon, 02 Sep 2019 16:30:16 EST R2loQZ16 No.30603
File: 1567456216583.jpg -(56949B / 55.61KB, 699x1513) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Synthetic Urine for Drug Test Help.
Has anyone used synthetic urine for a drug test? Did you pass or were you caught? I'm on methadone and have been using again (fuck me right) for the past 3 weeks and have a random test sometime this month. I'm desperate and considering buying the synthetic urine they have at my local smoke shop. The tests are not monitored and I'm not even sure there is a temperature test on it, I piss in a cup and bring it back to the front desk and it gets shipped somewhere else for testing. Anyone have experience with this? Or any other methods for passing a urine test? I was gonna pour a tiny bit of methadone into the fake urine and hope it works.
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Cedric Cleblingstock - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:37:20 EST Llutud8H No.30619 Reply
>>30603
Sounds like a stupid idea to me. If they're only urine testing you there's a bunch of other drugs you could get away with doing.

Recovery

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- Fri, 06 Sep 2019 16:10:15 EST h7kQqvlo No.30612
File: 1567800615186.jpg -(29851B / 29.15KB, 720x712) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Recovery
I was told to come here because I want to post on a thread each day about my recovery from substance abuse.
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Reuben Blythehood - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:59:14 EST 9JPtlKo8 No.30614 Reply
how is it going? what supports have you got in place to help you through this? What is your action plan for when you feel like you are going to relapse?
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Oliver Credgedock - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:34:09 EST UjQ6AzP6 No.30615 Reply
Not OP, but I am also in recovery from opiates, including H - currently on Bupe maintenance. Oddly, I'm finding myself feeling like going on a binge, but not for Opi's, but for a stim of some sort! Obviously I know this would be a stupid thing to do, but that's on my mind a lot right now, despite not doing any stims for like 10 years! Anyway, hope you're doing ok OP - fell free to share experiences with us and any issues you're facing.

How fast does urine have drug dregs in it?

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- Thu, 05 Sep 2019 02:04:50 EST 7EQ3Ilr6 No.30610
File: 1567663490722.jpg -(1589833B / 1.52MB, 2880x2160) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How fast does urine have drug dregs in it?
Is your piss immediately contaminated? I smoked some meth, forgetting to save some piss first and then went like 5 min later. I can submit the piss tomorrow if it's clean, but if not I have my next UA in 5.5 days. I I'll prob be clean by then as I'm just doing like .2 grams today and tomorrow, and if there's a little it's not the end of the world, as I'm on subs and they just make me step up the counseling in my MAT program.
Any advice greatly appreciated.

QuickFix, Pain clinic, and Opis oh my

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- Thu, 22 Aug 2019 07:50:28 EST thbTr7Ld No.30575
File: 1566474628969.jpg -(8275B / 8.08KB, 225x225) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. QuickFix, Pain clinic, and Opis oh my
Hello, I have a new patient pain clinic appt scheduled in less than a week for serious legitimate reasons, although I've been using an old oxy IR script (different dr/insurance/6 months ago) due to my back pain, and am curious on a few things..

(Also my apologies if this isn't the correct board, figured it might be given the circumstances tho.)

I'm curious if QuickFix synthetic would work for pain mgmt urine tests?
Anyone have any insight on such uses? Or QuickFix or other products in general?

Also, how can I calculate the duration in which oxycodone will stay detectable in my urine based on amount and/or bmi?
(6'3'' 190lbs; only used for the past 2-3 days, but roughly 90-150mg a day)

Does kratom show up on pain management tests? Anyone have experience with pain doctors and kratom? Is it better to avoid mentioning the kratom?

Am I fucked? Chug water and might be okay?
Ty for any/all responses
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Nell Shakeshaw - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:24:28 EST c8Y5VlxS No.30576 Reply
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Depending on the type of pain, I recommend asking about baclofen. It's a muscle relaxer. It makes me really chill and warm and fuzzy and still able to function (except for hard physical labor).

If you just want to know about clean piss, first of all, /detox/. Second, I think opis are out of your system in three or four days. I don't think anybody tests for kratom so you can use that to stave off any withdrawals.
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Nell Shakeshaw - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:45:02 EST c8Y5VlxS No.30577 Reply
>>30576
Oh fuck this is detox. I thought I clicked on b.

Methadone treatment, can I use opiates while on methadone?

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 01:42:39 EST R2loQZ16 No.30557
File: 1565934159217.jpg -(86736B / 84.70KB, 892x1834) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Methadone treatment, can I use opiates while on methadone?
I've been on 110mg of methadone for about 8 months, and I'm wanting to use opiates. If I use other opiates, will I feel any effect at all? How long do I need to stop taking methadone before I can feel any effects?
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Charles Gommermig - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 02:09:17 EST h3k26bsg No.30565 Reply
>>30557
DId you feel methadone before? Isn't it like synethetic morphine of sorts?
If you don't get high on it, doen't mean other opiaods wll not get you high.

It does not nor is intended to make you not get high on opiates if you use them.

even if methadaone never got you high, it's still there. Some go from methadone clinic and do herion by default. As peroson said, it's dangerious to do so, and wouldn't. If you haven't, then why do so. You would almost cetainly feel the other opiate, likely not in a very much good way, it could definately and esailly backfire.

Shit you draw in sobriety

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- Thu, 06 Jun 2019 19:08:08 EST SWi5R6pH No.30405
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So surely there are artists and addicts both out there!

Post the shit you drew in sobriety to cope with being sober.

I got 7 pictures so far, will post more later.

I started doing these "podium drawings" because at my rehab, a dude would always share at a podium.

90 days sober.
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John Crommlebury - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:01:31 EST IFPTLOuA No.30534 Reply
>>30454
is this all your work? it's amazing man
can i follow you anywhere
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Albert Hivingson - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:06:34 EST GiiCgdne No.30555 Reply
hey these are all pretty good OP
stay strong!

1,4-butanediol taper

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- Mon, 12 Aug 2019 06:40:38 EST GawcegWN No.30554
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On a 1,4-butanediol detox. Have phenibut, Lyrica, and enough 1,4-butanediol to taper. Don't want to end up in the hospital. Will ask doctor for baclofen as a last resort. Can't really tell when the BDO is starting to wear off other than the stinging pains I get as a reminder that my blood pressure is spiking. How do I swing this?

SSRI DETOX

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- Thu, 08 Nov 2018 23:56:01 EST TiLbru36 No.30237
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Is there any way to speed up detoxing SSRI's from the body? Specifically Prozac.

I've started taking Vyvanse again and I've been on 40mg of Prozac, and I'm not getting nearly as many of the effects as I used to, and I have 0 tolerance. Apparently there's some sort of liver enzyme bullshit that Prozac is blocking, so tl;dr when I take it I only feel it for like an hour if that, then I just feel like I'm crashing for 8 hours.

Is there any way to get this out of my system faster? I know Prozac lasts fucking forever, but I was thinking maybe if I did cardio or drank a shit ton of water I could clean myself out faster. Been off it for about 2 days
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Cedric Chaddlemetch - Sun, 03 Mar 2019 06:36:30 EST 577CB8d1 No.30281 Reply
OP, are you still here? I'm off SSRI's after 7 years taking it but I was on Luvox. Brain zaps are disgusting and on 5th day I was feeling ike a zombie. Microdosing psilocybin mushrooms removed all negative side effects but I didn't have enough shrooms to take them every day for 2 weeks, so I just had to live through it.
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Fanny Greenshit - Sun, 03 Mar 2019 23:22:24 EST yo59Frw9 No.30282 Reply
>>30237
wish i could help, i tried prozac and it kinda instant serotonin head issues,
alcohol may help, clonazepam may help. may want to kcik the Vyvanse
for a while. I think that may a big contributing factor
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dr. m - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:18:51 EST hrseF5HX No.30533 Reply
>>30237

Nah dude. Prozac takes 5 days for half of it to leave your system, and then the half that breaks down takes another 7-15 days for half of THAT to leave your system. I was able to cold Turkey 20mg/day of Prozac with zero withdrawal. Now I only take 20mg prozac once a week and it works much better for me.

Ket addict to ultra runner on ketogenic diet

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2019 22:59:04 EST 00eHmqeF No.30496
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Seen this? He touches on a really important principle, that if you want to stop doing some kind of thing you need to find a suitable replacement. In his case he replaced a ket habit with ultra running and a specific diet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96VZFklUM_Q
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Ian Lightham - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:46:34 EST 5jBot1Wm No.30503 Reply
>>30502
Hey, same guy but assuming my ID will have changed due to different location today... To answer your questions - well in a nutshell I've been doing all of this for years now. I'm not shitting on what you're saying, but I've been there done all that. Now maybe that's enough for some people to quit their addictive behaviour, but for a lot of others it wont be. Looking for the underlying cause is stepping it up a level when the basic 'lifestyle changes' just dont cut it. I mean I've just been diagnosed with Bipolar (as said in my last post) and your reaction to that post is to question whether I get exercise and eat right?? I agree with some of the stuff you said as a general rule, but you shouldn't dismiss looking deeper into self for the underlying cause or for answers to problems.
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Fanny Blatherwell - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:47:39 EST 00eHmqeF No.30504 Reply
>>30503
No problems, I'm just offering advice. It worked for me (on my almost decade-long chronic anxiety). I don't know about bipolar disorder.
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Sidney Marringpodge - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 00:10:07 EST 8DF+rm4w No.30520 Reply
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That was a super chill video. Today I am 10 months clean from opiates, benzos and meth, and I've been really trying to look at some kind of healthy hobby. Skateboarding and swimming were what I had in mind

is there any hope to feel normal after years of amphetamine abuse?

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- Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:33:23 EST M1vf01ne No.30514
File: 1564414403200.jpg -(73197B / 71.48KB, 400x524) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. is there any hope to feel normal after years of amphetamine abuse?
Ive been clean from stims fot a couple of months now, and still dont feel anywhere close to normal. I blew a couple years of my life abusing vyvanse heavily, and occasionally other stims, and finally got fed up with it. Still not feeling close to normal is extremely discouraging and hellishly depressing. Im terrified that i have ruined my life, and i cant see myself living my life feel flat like this forever. i cant even take normal doses of stimulants without chest pains and other worrying symptoms either now, so i cant supplement the fucking dopamine i need either. i cannot go on like this much longer, if you guys have been through this and recovered please tell me... i really need some kind of hope tight now...
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Archie Suttingnudging - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:12:49 EST rl4uHNmE No.30515 Reply
Sorry to hear you're really struggling - I'm not familiar with stims as such. I mean I've dabbled with a few, but I'm no expert in this area - Opi's were my downfall! But in terms of trying to get the natural dopamine going again, i do know that l-tyrosine is a good supplement to take. Cant remember the exact science of it, but I think it somehow gets your body producing it's own dopamine again. If you aren't on any sort of antidepressant medication - also worth looking at 5htp too. Another good supplement which helps kickstart the good brain chemicals! All I can say is keep going with what you're doing and have hope! Things will get better as time goes on - but I know that's not going to help you now. Just try to remain positive if you can. Distract yourself with new hobbies, even some light to moderate exercise can help boost natural endorphins etc...
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Archie Humblenock - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:28:50 EST Pg8Ve1RV No.30516 Reply
I used to smoke meth on a regular basis for two years. It took about six months before i started to see positive signs.
Clean for four years now. Dont worry, You'll get there.
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Walter Dennerstog - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:52:05 EST oxhu8ilP No.30519 Reply
>>30514

I had the same thing as this >>30516 guy except euro speed and RCs instead of meth. Six months is the usual healing time after hard drug abuse. It doesn't mean you'll be normal after 6 months but you will feel much better. Just keep going and remember that actively bettering your life is a just as huge factor in regenerating as time. I know it's very hard, when the dopamine needed for motivation, which in turn is needed to start doing things actively is missing.

>>30515

The exact chemistry is that L-Tyrosine is converted to Levodopa, than that is converted to Dopamine. You don't need expensive supplements, tyrosine is one of the 20 amino acids found in proteins. Another one of those is phenilalanine which is converted to tyrosine in the body if needed. So OP eat lots of protein (meat, legumes, diaries, etc). Try to excercise. In the first few weeks you have to force yourself but it works wonders after that.

OP there is hope, lot of people came out of that pit before. It sucks major dicks now, but you'll get better and you'll be proud of yourself and maybe even a happy person.

BWD

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- Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:29:00 EST 1NUYf9VK No.30012
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Bump While Detox

On Green Tea + MangoPeach Juice rn, whoa brauh the room is stable and there's the faint smell of feces or burning acrylic as the nastiness is cleansed from my body.
Going to go meditate and head out to enjoy the festivities with a clean head. Probably should shower too.

BWD
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Jenny Durrynudge - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:51:03 EST 1Pc5zbPG No.30310 Reply
Run out of hash, admittedly I dont smoke much, 1 gram can last weeks, though I was doing codeine too and Naproxen both for pain, CBD ran out of and Im only eating fish, nuts, eggs, some greens, greek yogurt. My anti biotics course just finished. Im trying to be clean for a bit, hadnt fapped for a week and a half but was feeling highly strung and was so horny other night I ordered a fleshlight

On my fridge it says, No nicotine (was doing snuff), caffeine (gives me tmj), alcohol (self explanatory) sugar (trying to slim down)

So Im low carb no drink or drug atm, it kinda just happened, feel like I need to clean my system a bit. Will have a little drink and eat whatever over my bday next weekend, hope that doesnt mess up my hard work. Might have to get some hash (I can get bored) but that'll be all.

feeling kinda clean tbh feels good man :)
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Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:20:11 EST YaY2oWWS No.30482 Reply
>>30012
cold turkey from 4-8mg day suboxone and this fucking sucks everything hurts i just wanna be fucking done with this shit
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Angus Sushmere - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:02:41 EST S90C7mly No.30518 Reply
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i was not stoned for about half a year. from 15yo to 22yo.

i stumbled across ayahuasca

basically everything changed from this experience on. nowadays im really healthy, doing sports regularly and my lungs have recovered.

but from time to time you can find other drugs in my systems.


Benzodiazepines: A story of love, memory, and the pending doom

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- Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:30:42 EST WpuPBHYJ No.30247
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I started in 2016. Following some horrible life events, I placed a clearnet order for etizolam. I should have seen a doctor. I should have heeded the warnings. But after what I went through I couldn’t handle sleeping one hour a night for weeks on end.

No, wait, let’s jump back four years. I dated a girl with a clonazepam script which she seldom used. I would occasionally take 1-2mg. I never had a problem. I had a problem with other drugs, but not benzodiazepines. It is a fact rarely disputed in the medical or harm reduction communities that while occasional benzodiazepine use is safe, long-term use can bring on withdrawals that are “worse than heroin.”

Now, let’s set the record straight. I’ve done enough heroin to develop an addiction. Benzodiazepines are worse. Prolonged use, even at therapeutic doses of benzodiazepines, can result in months of acute withdrawal and years of post-acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS).

From etizolam I found clonazolam. I never really liked it, but I would cut it up onto very tiny doses (well-aware of the dangers of hot spots in vendor-pressed 1mg pills of anything). And after a year or so, I started to wake up unable to see.

Really. Etizolam has a quite short half-life, so taking it and going to bed for 8 hrs is enough to wake up with your hands involuntarily shaking, your eyes misprocessing reality - I don’t know if they were seizures, but they might as well have been. From there, I reached out for help online.

I spent hours each day researching taper schedules, reviewing equivalency charts, methodically planning my mathematical reduction to zero.

And I still failed. It took 12mg diclazepam - the equivalent of 120mg diazepam - to finally stabilize. But everyone in my life could tell, from my past behavior to my new I-just-don’t-give-a-fuck attitude followed by random extreme panic attacks when I made dose reductions.

I did eventually seek out medical help. I couldn’t get past 3mg diclazepam (but I went 12->3 myself!). So I started calling psychiatrists. And rehabs. I had people tell me a taper is crazy, that it just keeps you addicted longer (if a psychiatrist or mental health counselor ever tells you this, review the Ashton Manual and run the other way. Consult a real doctor). Eventually I found someone.

I’ve done well with 15% or so reductions every few months. Stable, holding down a job, starting to regain love in life and hobbies and everything I had before my life fell apart.

PSA: avoid daily benzodiazepine use. It is fundamentally unsafe.

I’ll write more as time provides.
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Fucking Hublinghall - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 19:19:54 EST Dswgp8IR No.30268 Reply
>>30247

I came off a 3 year multiple-bar a day habit summer 2016 and STILL feel weird. A couple weeks ago my fucking back left upper molar CHIPPED because I grind my teeth NON STOP
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Dundun - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 06:35:28 EST Z2OQyIBq No.30508 Reply
>>30247
For all I know I'm the OP cause my addiction was similar but I don't remember anything. I'd also experience those shakes. I agree they felt like seizures. Eventually I did have a grand Mal seizure. Fucking sucks.

How do I get cleaned?

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- Thu, 16 May 2019 18:33:34 EST mYIVlqFO No.30385
File: 1558046014272.jpg -(35784B / 34.95KB, 528x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How do I get cleaned?
Okay. I do lot of drugs. Not like in a totally self destructive way, but I tend to get lazy and then sit around and then do drugs to not go insane just sitting around, and then I start doing drugs to put up with the drugs that I did earlier. It's stupid. Mostly a bad habit. I just need a bit of help really. Like an AA sponsor that I can call and talk to when I crave. I just need to break the cycle for like a week. How do I do that? How do I get an AA/NA sponsor? How do I get help? I don't know why but I'm really bad at this it's like a curse I don't know what to do
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Jack Crundlekat - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 05:20:45 EST m3QXNeGX No.30499 Reply
>>30490
AA a cult. I can buy that. The sayings, if not said already. One is, if you have one foot in the past and one in the future you are pissing on today. So basically you are going nowhere, if you don't recognize your past, which it says to do, by apologozing those you have possibly harmed in the past, which at times cannot really be done.

Sorry already very drunken person, for that time I hit you when you did whatever that was way out of line. Explanation, there is none. How does one apologize for
some other drunks antics, which you were as bad. One I could say is family friends who do not drink, where you were out of line. No active sponsor, longtime
advocate of 30 in 30, group so-called moderator or leader I have ever listened to could explain apologizing to somebody who is just as much an ass or even more than they ever were and make 'amends.'

In all, it is just a circle of nothing. where people bicker like drunks over simple and quite straightforward meaningful statements as being wrong. Higher class meetings are obviously different than the hardcore idiot groups that at least one out of a few has woken up with a black eye at least a few times.

Medicaid will or should pay for most alcohol treatment, in patient outpatient. Medical detoxes as well in most states. Psychiatry, treatment centers that specialize with drug alcohol abuse.
Which are likely best bet for privacy.

There are county/state run places, but your confidentiality is maybe not so confidential. So especially county state places, especially. Tread lightly on you usage and past details.

Private run places may ask about drug usage and possible criminal records. They may say you don't have to answer these. So tread lightly and not go overboard and spill your life story until you feel you have a trust relationship. The if wanted, if you think it helps get a bit deeper.

If questions seem very awkward in nature in the scope of things. Do keep thinking.

If mostly jobless, paid under the table. Your should qualify for medicaid. If you do not have medicaid, regardless, do get it. Like call tomorrow. Today. If ever have an accident, a hospital
may charge $1000s for at times doing basically nothing. If wanted drugs that help with alcohol opiate usage can be prescribed and a co-pay is like two bucks. So seek a primary care Dr, and a specialist psychiatrists, addiction center and get things rolling.

As the Ziggy Marly tune goes;
Tomorrow will never come
Tomorrow is never here
So don't you put off what we can do right now
'Cause tomorrow will never appear

today
today
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David Suckleridge - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:44:29 EST rl4uHNmE No.30506 Reply
>>30499
I think I'm understanding what you were getting at? There was some good advice in that - but it sort of looks like you had a mind-dump moment whilst amped up on stims or something? It reads very 'speedy' and all...Anyway anyone is welcome here - this board is dead as fuck! We need more people inputting in this place for sure!! For me - I've never done the AA /NA thing, but I do go to a group recovery programme which I find very helpful. Just working through your own shit and listening to others with similar experiences makes me feel like I'm not just this one freak. It makes you realise so many people from different backgrounds deal with substance abuse and addiction. Theres a comfort I take from that - the whole 'you are not alone' vibe...
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Cedric Brundleshaw - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:39:58 EST RTcDtcVf No.30507 Reply
>>30506
12 steps, one is making amends to people you have harmed when you were drinking. When possible. The step is basically unachievable. Some people don't want top see you or you may not want to see them. So the cult as is said, many of the long-timers will say, well you cannot get past this step, you did not make enough effort.

If one says, I finished this (certain) step, they may get totally dumped on. Hearing, no you didn't. Your lying to us and you are lying to yourself, you have not acquired that step. Where it would seem that the person felt comfortable sharing his feelings of accomplishment.

This may turn into nothing but just reaming on the person for big part of the meeting.

My guess leaving the person to just go, screw it, gonna buy a bottle.

Where a person gets highly praised saying they 'relapsed and drank for days and this was their first meeting sense.

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