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- Fri, 01 Mar 2019 01:55:48 EST k5iQMwwM No.30278
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I want to go to an Al-Anon meeting. What's it like?
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adolph hadituptohere - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 04:31:29 EST ZASTjFXm No.30299 Reply
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>>30298 I can't help thinking you got it all wrong I'm 29 years clean and have never ever declined a drink saying "no, I am an alcoholic". I just say I don't drink. Got a job 28 years ago and never have I told anybody I'm an alcoholic/addict, It's an anonymous program after all. Yes I did the steps but took 12, maybe 15 years to do them all, going to regular meeting is what's important. It's not particularly about coffee or tobacco just drugs that change your consciousness to the extent you go to any lengths to get them and they are on your mind all the time. All your friends are using some form of dope.
It's not a cult in my opinion, just a form of spirituality albeit an American one that works for drug addiction if you want to do it and initially it is not easy. If I needed my lawn mowed and asked a newcomer to do it they wouldn't do it. Yet if the Dali Lama asked a follower to do same or the late Jim Jones or David Miscavige of Scientology I am sure that lawn would be mowed...hundreds would volunteer! I'm sure Buddhism works just as well and it's an eight fold path not a 12 step approach but you have to decide to do it and that's the problem with most people, the decision to 'do it'.
The largest number of NA meeting these days is in Iran not the USA just by the by.. Of course there are other methods to stop drinking or using dope however I think AA and NA are the easiest and one gets to regularly see addicts who have overcome the compulsion which is why it is urged newcomers do lots of meetings, that's hope, the first step, that you can do it too. AND, you don't get a medical record outlining what you are on and all the medical fuck up's trying to clean up.
I'd tell you more about myself but you may not be interested. Good luck nonetheless.
David Medgespear - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 18:30:54 EST cQotqwDz No.30301 Reply
> It's an anonymous program after all.

Well, surely probation, courts like to see that you are aattending meetings. So they want proof. Aside, there can be spies. Not being paranoid, or delusional. But like cops taking down license plates at political rallies. Same principle. I went to DUI classes some time back and person would be writing down notes when certain people talk. Where the policy was that anything said was confidential. When certain people spoke, the scribbling would begin. I am sure AA has gotten more sane over the years. But, I believe one can transform AA into another fasion to keep level. As in, not fully relying on it for life. But put the understandings in any direction one want's to go.

But whatever. I know alcohol, like other drugs can be surely a burden. Even devastating.
Cyril Bardspear - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 02:36:45 EST gPtZreQW No.30314 Reply
>I can't help thinking you got it all wrong I'm 29 years clean and
>have never ever declined a drink saying "no, I am an alcoholic".
>I just say I don't drink.

Well, things may be different but back when, that was the norm. I can't drink, I am an alcoholic. If one would say they claim otherwise, like I don't drink, they were deemed to be lying to themselves by not saying they are alcoholics/addicts on the spot if the issue arises. Kind of like a scarlet letter if you will. Embroidered onto themselves, by the shame/mistakes of the past.

Now drinking continuously, with problems because of, surely one is likely an alcoholic. But not drinking, surely one can be anything they want, without judging themselves as a non-drinking but lifetime alcoholic.

Eh whatever,

Quitting Drugs & Turning My Life Around

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- Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:59:17 EST ybHRCi9S No.30300
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>been smoking weed since 2011
>have been addicted to it from around 2013 forward
>have wanted to quit since 2014/2015
>life is finally turning around in ways I thought it wouldn't
>started screwing around with Kratom, Hydrocodone, Ativan 2015 forward
>started screwing around with shrooms in 2017 and 2018
>screwed around with a number of other drugs a couple of times over the years (If I didn't mention it, I didn't like it very much)

I've managed to quit all other drugs aside from weed.
The weed I've been smoking the past week is a low quality shake.
I'm fairly certain that my tolerance is the lowest it has ever been - which is making me feel on edge.
Its also making me feel like going and getting some grade A weed... But I won't.

How long does the edge last for weed quitting weed?
Should I try and make the jump into no weed or continue at my current dosage?
I don't care about brain fog so much as I care about being able to handle stress without drugs.
Deep breathing can only do so much when you know the deep relaxation of Ativan and Hydro.
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Archie Brookway - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:42:08 EST NouMKNfz No.30303 Reply
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I smoked every single day between 2010-2018 and I had to drop it cold turkey in December for a new job. Literally nothing happened. If you have trouble sleeping then pop some melatonin but the rest is in your head. If you can quit caffeine then you can quit weed. After a couple weeks you won't even think about it.
Beatrice Ceddledale - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 08:42:31 EST 0DfVuopA No.30304 Reply
A few days to a couple weeks typically. Your brain fog will wear off, you'll feel more energetic and mentally alert. Your sleep and eating patterns will even out, if they aren't already pretty good. I think what makes it hard for some people is dealing with anxiety or depression on top of that. Just stay positive if that's the case. Maybe reconnect with some old friends or family. Some people can still tolerate their friends who smoke, some can't. I would at least attempt to be the former unless you consistently crave in to smoking around buddies.
Charles Hebblelotch - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 14:16:17 EST qTYZOCuv No.30306 Reply
I quit smoking weed 6 months ago and havent smoked it since. It was a hard habit to kick. But, I did it and I'm glad I did. Weed was controlling me and I said enough is enough and quit, cold turkey.

Benzo Headaches

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- Sun, 17 Mar 2019 09:37:59 EST J0uhXA7r No.30292
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Hello, I am currently trying to quit / reduce my clonazepam usage. I am trying a moderate taper but i'm baffled with the symptoms. I mean i cut 0.25 mg (out of 1.25 maintenance) over a week and sleep is better than I expected, even if still not that good. anxiety is in check too. But I'm having terrible headaches and difficulty concentrating, plus I don't really find anything enjoyable (but that might be just the headache ruining things). Aspirin / ibuprofen and similar things have no effect at all. I even verified that it is indeed due to the clonazepam, after i took 0.25 mg during the day (i only take one dose before sleep usually) the headache was gone.
That's baffling because that's not really the symptom I was expecting (all other common symptoms are fine, no aanxiety, decent sleep, etc...) and it is way harder than i imagined for a gradual 0.25 mg cut. I know it's a lot in proportion to the total dose but still it seems like a pretty small cut.

Anyways tl:dr: Klonopin withdrawal headahes, anybody experienced them before? Any way to mitigate them?

Oliver Crubbletark - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 10:06:53 EST ePCV4lqh No.30305 Reply
Yup went from 6mg a day to 0 took me 3 years.
Let me tell you how hard the last small amount is it is no joke.

But about the headaches.

I think might not be withdraw related and if they are I think you might be able to get rid of them by just changing your diet slightly by that I mean a huge spoon full of chili powder (or eating a bunch of spicy ass food when you get a headache??) for its vasodilation properties or caffeine (or drinking some tea/ a coffee) for its vasoconstriction properties.
In your case I think you want to try the chili powder. It has been my go to for a while however my asshole is very upset i eat masses of chili powder because my doctor won't prescribe me a vasodilating drug for headaches when i know that they are the source and I don't know any OTC drugs that are as strong enough vasodilatator. Also check your blood pressure normally and see what your normal blood pressure is for a few days/ weeks. If its lower than than it normally is when you get the headache drink the caffiene if its higher than it normally then eat the spicy shit. if its nearly the same then go to the doctor that first prescribed you benzos and tell him his a greedy jolly african-american for ever giving you benzos long term.

You might not feel anxious and say that but you might be having some weird fuckiery going on from the withdraw where your body is reacting to anxiety that doesn't exist. Having a fight or flight response with no feelings of fight or flight because benzo withdraw I fucking guess.

I am obv no doctor but hating sounding like a smarty pants when I am just telling you what cured my headaches after I learned what causes different kinds of headaches that is all I am basing this off.

In honesty though you sound like a strong enough person. I think just going back up some on your dosage for a little while to stabilize then back down again would be the best idea but. You have plenty of time there is no rush. I only say this because you already know from experience it has worked


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- Sun, 17 Mar 2019 20:06:04 EST o5o9TzUP No.30293
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I took benzos for bout 4 years. I've taken klonopin, valium, and lamictal. I've been w/ding for about 8 months now and I'm still suffering my dudes. Brain zaps, digestion issues, throwng up, anxiety from practically everything. I tapered off real nice too. I tapered for like 3 months. Is there anything I can do to stop this super shit feeling and these symptoms? I tried Kratom, but it seemed to just make it worse. Should I try again? I'm willing to try anything. I just wanna go back to normal. How much longer is this shit going to last?
Nigel Fuzzletut - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 02:00:51 EST J0uhXA7r No.30294 Reply
How much was your average daily dose during those years? A 3 months taper might seem long but if you were taking big boy doses it is not nearly enough. Not that you can do anything about that now... Maybe you could try to find the lowest dose that makes the symptoms bearable and then taper that as slowly as possible.
When quitting benzos patience is the game and you should hold on even if it seems you are not making progress.
Stay strong OP

Quitting Kratom

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- Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:57:19 EST gscyIH09 No.30244
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Any advice? I used take 50-60g a day. Trying a taper but is there anything I should know about? I know it's not the strongest shit in the world but I'm able to take half a 30 and be disappointed I didn't take kratom. My goal is to be clean by Christmas. Is this realistic? I'm at about 25-30g now
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Walter Deblinghon - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 01:37:28 EST 1UgXE918 No.30261 Reply
maybe get some akumma seeds and use them at night to help taper. I find even a gram of kratom makes me feel decent if i havent taken any that day. I am a 20 g a day user.
Molly Duckleden - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 05:42:39 EST qSZUnq23 No.30262 Reply
Good luck man. I've been just under 10g a day for a few months and haven't had WDs when weeks off were needed, but 50-60g a day must be rough.

Curious, what was the ROA? That seems like a lot to swish, but if throughout the day I could see it.

I learned my lesson

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- Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:36:08 EST jT4hWI31 No.30260
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So I had a siezure and tore my rotator cuff, but 3 different hospitals wouldn't give me any pain meds because "it's not a broken bone" which is bullshit. So I just went and bought what my area calls heroin (really fentanyl, carfentenil, u44770, whatever er it is) white powder, no smell. So get tested every Monday and Friday at my sober house. I said fuck it and did probably .2 on Monday. Then again on tuesday. But the second s time I did it I overdosed and collapsed in the street, but the junkies in that area love me so they carcanned me, didn't rob me and helped me run and hide from the approaching cops and EMTs. Not fun but I learned my lesson. Done with fetty for good. My question is, how fucked am I on this piss test Friday? They're really cheap 5$ cups, basic 12 panels, and a separate dip stick for fentanyl. I been taking niacin and drinking a lot of water to flush my system as fast as possible, but from what I remember, since "fentanyl" is so fast acting it's out of your piss in a hurry also. Especially since I did maybe a maximam of .4, if that, they we're tiny amounts, and I haven't taken it in so long I thought I'd be good. I've been hearing I should be ok. If not I get kicked out and have 5 years over my head. What do y'all think? And Ps, no detox drinks, cuz I take Adderall and Xanax so I need to pop for those.
Molly Duckleden - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 05:44:49 EST qSZUnq23 No.30263 Reply
How did it go? Fent tests are pretty new and more info for the community helps understand it better.

What to do while you are without weed

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- Tue, 03 Jul 2018 08:28:17 EST L7grIRDM No.30008
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Hi all! What to eat when have short periods without weed? How to make yourself non-nervous? I mean for example what about the vitamin C while periods withoud pots?
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Augustus Grimgold - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 11:50:43 EST GjQtgtw2 No.30240 Reply
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I'm gonna echo what the other posters have said and just add my 2 cents. I've gone through periods of addiction to many substances throughout my life. The one that i have the hardest time quitting is weed. Now im not saying it has the worst side effects (obviously not) or the worst withdrawal (definitely not) but the social acceptance around it, the ease of access, and the feeling of making uninteresting things interesting has made it the one habit i cant get rid of once and for all. I've quit /opi/ /stim/ and /hooch/ and while the withdrawals were horrid, they eventually went away and i could return to life without too much desire for those drugs. Living life without being stoned has been far and away the trickiest for me. I think as it gets legalized in more and more places and people finally accept it there will be research and discussion about the addictive nature of Cannabis. People think that just because something wont cause you to become physically addicted and you wont have a seizure after stopping it then that means it is completely non-addictive and non habit forming. That ignorance needs to stop.
Nigel Subbertetch - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 02:01:59 EST 6FvdO/Lk No.30241 Reply
>People think that just because something wont cause you to become physically addicted and you wont have a seizure after stopping it then that means it is completely non-addictive and non habit forming. That ignorance needs to stop.

100% true. I think the people that claim weed isnt addictive are the people that smoke maybe a few times a month or are in complete denial.
Edward Nicklewater - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 02:59:13 EST XBK2T0+M No.30242 Reply
Physically addicted is not a scientific term. All addiction is mental and mental addiction can lead to mental or physical withdrawals. Physical withdrawals happen when the central nervous system has adapted to the drug and when the balance is removed it has trouble regulating physical functions. Weed can absolutely cause physical withdrawal symptoms depending on the person and how addicted they are. It's usually not as common or severe compared to harder drugs.

First time clubbing while sober

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- Sat, 27 Oct 2018 08:39:28 EST +TML6USE No.30225
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I quit drinking a month ago, which is definitely a positive change for me. Smoking too, and I currently don’t have access to any other kind of narcotic. Despite my new sobriety, I still enjoy techno and house club nights. I’m currently on my way to one and I’m a little nervous about being sober all night while everyone else is enjoying some kind of intoxication. I am also worried about the temptation that I’ll have to drink and smoke.

Any advice on partying while sober?
Fuck Conningladge - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 11:42:16 EST Go5i41RK No.30235 Reply
I rather enjoy clubbing while sober. I've done it a few times and it's always nice.

It's all what you make of it, to be honest. Just make sure you dance your ass off.
Beatrice Grimwill - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 23:51:06 EST TiLbru36 No.30236 Reply
If you are in early sobriety it will be kinda miserable honestly. You'll just noticing everyone rolling and think they're having a better time than you, cause they probably are.

I'm 6+ years clean and it's only fun to go to raves with a bunch of friends and even then I can't party nearly as long.

I'm not saying you gotta stay clean forever or anything, but if you wanna avoid temptations maybe you should rethink going to the rave

Quick fix 6.2

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- Thu, 25 Oct 2018 03:50:56 EST hccsbw8H No.30224
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I was on /weed/ they told me to come here
So im getting a construction job, i would really like to still be able to smoke, i plan on smoking a j or so every other night or so then just using this for randoms. Anybody have experience? Are there better brands? Most of the reviews ive read seem like theyre trying to sell it, but seems like most people on the interwebs can vouch for it.
Hugh Gocklewerk - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 11:40:02 EST P+lChTbV No.30229 Reply
It will pass. Make sure you order from the the lab's shop itself, there are counterfeits and old (detectable) batches. Make sure its the right temperature. Follow the directions. Good luck and stop fucking your life up.
John Gapperbid - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 20:11:04 EST rBGUAppM No.30233 Reply

Let us know if it works. I have read a lot of reviews on this an it usually works for 80% or so for people.

Idk man maybe I just need to quit smoking for a while...

Dun goof on storage

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- Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:07:58 EST 5qTyFBHJ No.30215
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I cannot pass a drug test. But i have a sample of clean urine with all the necessary tools to pass one. The urine has been in a bottled container in a Ziploc bag for 24 hours, however it was dry, room temp storage, and I didn't think about keeping it in the fridge. Would refrigerating work at this point or do I need a new clean sample?
Clazzo Cunt - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:54:14 EST e7WxSptS No.30216 Reply
Well the piss came from a human rite? Then I'm sure you are good to go. I think they would only get suspicious about your sample if it were cat piss or something. Good luck man
Edwin Honeyfuck - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:06:28 EST t50Lpub+ No.30217 Reply
Well I'm concerned about bacteria and whatnot. Like, of the sample doesn't work, I wont fail but I'd have to retest on the spot. Making sure my Plan B works out
Helen Hasslick - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:12:55 EST e7WxSptS No.30218 Reply
I think piss goes bad within 48-72 hours at room temp but if i were you i would get working on that plan B and make a good one.

will I pass?

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- Mon, 24 Sep 2018 20:37:19 EST V89I9IQh No.30169
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I weigh 122, am 5'11 and almost no body fat
Last smoked the 23rd or 25th (cant remember) I was a light daily smoker
My drug test for probation is on the 29th this month so it'll be 35 days.
I'm drinking between a half gallon and a gallon of water and running about an hour a day. I'm gonna buy a home test kit tomorrow and test on the 26th
How likely am I to pass?
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Hedda Dicklewell - Tue, 16 Oct 2018 03:17:03 EST V89I9IQh No.30210 Reply
I wasn't on probation the last time I smoked mang. It was just before. Anyways i take my test in a couple days, gonna buy a home test today. Wish me luck. I've kept on the exercise and been drinking a fuckload of water
Clara Pallerville - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:40:50 EST 6XCmQW4d No.30213 Reply
I passed!
It's so funny since I've been doing alot of DMT and acid a few times but everything paid off!
Isabella Durringwill - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 01:08:33 EST vZUPACLF No.30214 Reply
Yea, more than enough time to pass anyway.

hey im getting off phenibut. ( good things to say but its not the right time in my life.}

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- Tue, 16 Oct 2018 01:03:31 EST Hwmwa1ri No.30209
File: 1539666211904.png -(18493B / 18.06KB, 66x130) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. hey im getting off phenibut. ( good things to say but its not the right time in my life.}
hey im getting off phenibut and im at 500 mg twice a day. how i should wean down and whats in store for me considering i was using 1000-2000mg a day for two or three months?
Hedda Dicklewell - Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:17:35 EST V89I9IQh No.30212 Reply
I am 3 weeks cold turkey off a 3 month 4 gram a day habit. It was rough but I got thru it with low doses of xanax and valium. I 1 gram a day doesn't seem too bad, try cutting 50mg from each dose for 100mg a day. You might feel a little anxious but it shouldn't be too bad. Try Alteril for an OTC sleep aid and magnesium for anxiety. The withdrawals aren't super fun but still less dangerous than benzos. When I went cold turkey the worst symptoms lasted 5 to 7 days but I quickly improved after. It was rough but I feel much better than before I started using phenibut.

taper advice

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- Thu, 01 Mar 2018 18:21:58 EST 0Fitvwfp No.29779
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so i have been using dope again for about a month and i need to stop. I was doing about a bundle a day- snorting. To aid me in this kick I have: 2 8mg subutex, 9 oz of high quality kratom, and 2 2mg clonazepam. What do you guys think i should do to make this kick/taper efficient while enduring as little hell as possible?
Augustus Debbercocke - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 12:04:52 EST O2oCWrRB No.29780 Reply
Distance your dosing of those substances as much as you possibly can. Don't just pop em at the slightest sniffle, wait it out to the best of your abilities. And try and increase that time as you go. This is to start training your will power.
BananaRambo - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 01:53:02 EST uSpvu8u5 No.30208 Reply
Buddha. Smoking weed/wax helps me immensely. It doesnt completely eliminate cravings or WD's but i can ignore it for a little while at least.

Passing Urine THC test

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- Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:18:18 EST qwqcNxuM No.30131
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I made a stupid mistake of taking an oil dab last night after 4 months of sobriety. Luckily the company offering me a job doesn't screen. The thing that's really getting to me is that I'm supposed to be hearing back from another company by at most Friday. They do screenings and I'm worried it'll be a higher paying position, assuming I won the interview canidacy. I don't know when they would test, but I want this out if my system asap. I might buy a cleansing and testing kit, but I don't know how I feel about the former. Has anyone passed a test at least one week to two after taking a dab/having a bowl? This is killing me, and it's all my fault
Edwin Pockleshit - Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:26:55 EST E5tMjZ9O No.30133 Reply
Basically the only thing that is legit is dilution. You need to drink a bunch of water before the test. You don't have to drink a ton until a few hours before the test though because that won't make you excrete the THC metabolites any faster, the water just makes it so they're less concentrated and will fall below the test's threshold. Take some B vitamins to color your pee and some creatine so they detect some creatinine in your urine.
Lydia Smallhood - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 16:50:02 EST wMuAFcmU No.30206 Reply
64 oz of water is usually good enough to dilute your urine from toxins. But weed is tricky man, it really fights to stay in your body.

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