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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Stim Detox

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- Wed, 28 Feb 2018 02:35:23 EST LsodZgKu No.29776
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So for the last year or so, well the last five years I've been addicted, or whatever you really want to say, to methamphetamines. I've been fine without them, though I still get the paranoia and sometimes psychosis. Though the symptoms have been getting lighter, and lighter. I was on the rig pretty hard. I just want to know, do these symptoms continue to go away? Sometimes I just feel like if they don't, then what's the use really? I've been smoking weed to moderate, but I'm going to have to quit that too soon for a job. I just am looking for some honest advice to help. It's been a fucking horror the last few years. I've been depressed, manic, worried about everything, still unable to sleep most nights even after quitting.

I guess what i'm asking is advice for sobriety? I've been clean from stimulants going on a month.
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Alice Brottingdale - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:46:01 EST rYIIdhhG No.29793 Reply
I was a cocaine addict. Sometimes I relapse (December 2016 I did a few grams of coke and before that summer of 2015 I did an 8ball). Randomly I get strong cravings for cocaine or even have dreams about doing cocaine. I can't watch shows with characters snorting coke. I experimented with meth and I find while it made me high it made me really productive, focused and I lost a lot of weight on it. While on cocaine all I did was do more cocaine. I found I came up with some really stupid ideas on meth. I can do binges of any drug (opiates, benzos, ampethamine/meth, weed, etc.) but cocaine is the one thing I have to actively stay away from. I learned to hate it and hate when I was a drug addict. I was a scrawny 160 lbs skeleton of a man, I failed university and I blew all my money. While on meth I fucked some really gruesome girls I wouldn't have sober and made some bad choices on benzos or even just drunk. Cocaine is something I stay away from. Cigarettes/ecigs have been the hardest thing to quit however in comparison to cocaine and weed(I can't smoke it due to random drug testing at work).

Initially I quit cocaine by running out of money, having to move home to my parents house for a bit, and by meditation. I had to hit rock bottom before I learnt my goddamned lesson. So maybe you can think of it that way OP. You may feel sad initially you'll never touch meth again (I felt sad and missed cocaine, sometimes I felt sick to my guts I craved it so bad).

You have to WANT to quit. You have to feel like YOU NEED TO QUIT. Don't be too hard on yourself if you relapse but take it seriously. Cold turkey is the only way. Also stay away from anyone who does meth, sells meth and anything that makes you want to do meth. When I quit cocaine certain songs would make me wanna take a few lines.
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Alice Brottingdale - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:47:00 EST rYIIdhhG No.29794 Reply
>>29793
Also I found weight lifting, jogging, and wanting to live a healthier lifestyle helped me. I did a stint in the military as well where everyone was sober (but a few guys did coke I found out on the downlow and that got me back into in my relapses).
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Alice Brottingdale - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:50:25 EST rYIIdhhG No.29795 Reply
>>29793
Also if you have ADHD, depression, etc it may not be a bad idea to get something to help you out unless you want to go stone cold sober. After quitting cocaine I took to weed and drinking like shit to a blanket when I got bad cravings. But it was still less money and less harmful to my life at that time then cocaine. I think everyone has that one drug that is just evil to them and they want more than food, relationships, sex, etc. For me it was cocaine.

Weed detox kits

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- Tue, 06 Mar 2018 12:24:00 EST SVM1seDK No.29782
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Do weed detox kits work? I have a piss test coming up in about a month, and while I don't mind cutting back, I don't want to fully quit yet. Would I be able to occasionally smoke until about a week before the test and then pass by taking one of these kits? The test is pretty important, and I was told failing the first time wouldn't look good. In order to start my hepatitis c treatment, my insurance is requiring that I pass a piss test. Since it's through an actual doctor, will they check for detox kits?
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Fucking Fuckingfoot - Thu, 08 Mar 2018 05:15:01 EST UVTu6YoS No.29788 Reply
>>29782
Who really knows. But may want to consider just quitting for a while. Being insurance dependent, they would like to see you take the treatment seriously. Seriously enough for them to let you know what you have to do to get things
going. May be tested after as well but, surely paying yourself could be pretty expensive.
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Shitting Blythehall - Thu, 08 Mar 2018 22:59:54 EST Af3WrjMC No.29789 Reply
They don't. Just stop smoking and get your hep c meds

Haha Fucking Pussy Quitters

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- Tue, 26 Dec 2017 06:53:50 EST 6x4Kpcig No.29649
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FUCK DETOX be a real man and do some more drugs.. Don't blame your problems on drugs and shit don't be such a BITCH and you wouldn't be "addicted". thats just a made up term anyways.. Grow the fuck up and do some more drugs.
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Phoebe Chagglehirk - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:09:49 EST cEbL+P6i No.29769 Reply
>addicted is a made up term

if you mean made up in the sense that every word is "made-up" then yeah.
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Molly Febbleworth - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:27:22 EST SK2LPSeT No.29771 Reply
great tips man, next time I OD I will just tell myself to not blame drugs for my lack of breath, man the fuck up and do more, thanks

Weed Cessation: help and experience welcome

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- Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:51:11 EST 4ZeJzgZq No.29400
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I'm stopping weed tomorrow completely after 5 years of daily vaping abuse

I was able stop for 50 days before so I know what to expect I had a mixture of the following:

  • depression (gray pointless outlook of life )
  • social anxiety
  • lack of humour and timing
  • easily fatigued
  • unable to sleep at times
  • night sweats


I want to lessen these withdrawal symptoms by doing the following:

  • find a support group (haven't found one yet)
  • skip rope and bodyweight exercises (already do this)
  • daily meditations and listening to evening dharmas

Any experience for /weed/ who went full sober? I'm sick of weed and I really want to stop it.
Insight from anyone is welcome
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Doris Hinkinnudging - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:53:30 EST O2oCWrRB No.29775 Reply
>>29770
If you do anything everyday, particularly take a drug everyday, you're brain is going to adapt to that being your natural state (look up neuroplasticity, it's real interesting stuff). As such, when you try and quit, you'll become tempted to return to your ''natural state'' that your brain is now hardwired to. This is why weed addiction is often the hardest thing to quit for some people, because they've been doing it so often, so regularly, and mostly, for so god damned long.

Your best bet, in addition to what you already said you'd do, is to try and do things that will actively reshape your brain into a new baseline; new, daily habits that will help you for the better. This is precisely why so many people on this board advocate exercise and meditation. They both change your brains default chemistry after a sufficiently long period of regular practice, in addition to their well documented and well known anti anxiety anti depressant effects.

That being said, I won't bs you because while ''stop smoking weed, start working out and meditating'' sounds simple, and in a sense, is simple, it's definitely not easy. it's hard work requiring self discipline and self relection and most of all pereverance. Just keep in mind that the longer you do it, the easier it'll get.

Also don't fall for the fatalistic trap of giving in to addiction and depression after a slip up or falling off the wagon. The number 1 most important trait to have when quitting something (or when trying to achieve anything really) is the ability to get back up and try again after failing. Sure some people manage to quit on their first or second try, but you know what? I really question how much of a ''problem', they really had if that's all it took. I've tried quitting stuff countless times before it stuck, and judging by your previous addictions ,I'm sure you've have similar experiences.

I wish you all the best.
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Cornelius Monningstene - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 10:16:27 EST 4ZeJzgZq No.29784 Reply
>>29400
Day 50 and I’m getting hungry all the time
Normal?

I tried fasting for the first 30 days and it’s good. Now my appetite is returning and I’m eating a lot. I guess I will allow it because it’s probably my body coping from lack of dopamine.

Was a 4 year everyday vaper bout a gram or less a day.

I can’t wait for 6 months down the line. I wonder how different things will be...

piss test wednesday

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- Tue, 27 Feb 2018 01:53:43 EST GsTOOrTm No.29773
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hey detox i dont come here often but i figured this would be the appropriate board

long story short im having a urinalysis done for the military

i've been clean for roughly 1 month, prior i was a long term smoker (about a decade) the past year or so has been almost strictly dabs.

about myself 5'11" 210lbs, smoked daily

i have a couple pics of my most recent at home piss test, would appreciate any feedback or opinions from other anons. mainly looking for reassurance that ill pass

thanks in advance.
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Walter Casslefidge - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 01:55:33 EST GsTOOrTm No.29774 Reply
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here is 2/2

Piss Test For a Job

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- Thu, 22 Feb 2018 04:05:10 EST yOEJinQz No.29760
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Im a male around 5' 10" 145 pounds
I'm an everyday weedsmoker. Smoked every day up until January 2 and then quit so I could apply for a job.
Have a piss test coming up for job this weekend. When I take the test it will be 53 days since I last smoked. Should I be in the clear if I drink a lot of water before?
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Emma Gillerlock - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:26:47 EST fthwn4rZ No.29764 Reply
>>29760
Don't even think about not passing. You will like nothing. Good opportunity though
to take that evergy in different directions.

Best liver support supplements

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- Sat, 03 Feb 2018 18:33:56 EST wBRWJkvj No.29721
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I like my drugs
Mainly alcohol and cocaine off a weekend

Been doing it for the last 10 years

Now I still look fresh because I go the gym and eat healthy drink lots of water.

But i know the amount I take will take its toll on my body over the years.

So with that in mind what supplments should o take.

I know of milk thistle.Some people think it's a meme others espicaly juice heads think it works.I tried it once (well a full bottle) and I think it helped but I hardly get hangovers any way.

I've also read about liv 52 and NAC what's supposed to help with paracetamol over doses
The there is activated charcoal and ALA
Then there are then detox teas puka brand I have now and then (I actualy enjoy it)

Normally all I take though are them cheap vitamin b complex dissolve able tablets (like berrocas

So any way without going overboard and without stopping (I only really party or even drink every 2 weeks now) what should I take.


Any suggestions
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Charlotte Dacklehitch - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 16:05:57 EST /a8b+ph1 No.29733 Reply
>>29721
I guess the best thing you can do is what you're already doing. Eat well sleep enough go regularly to the gym. Eat allot of veggies and keep the alcohol and other shit to the minimal and as much time between usages. Those are about the most essential things to do.
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Hugh Ninnerridge - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:48:08 EST n8TcMLR6 No.29752 Reply
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Would any one recommend taking any of the supplments ?
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Emma Darrynuck - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:39:29 EST vRJPC8Jm No.29754 Reply
>>29752
Just vitamins for the most part. Some alternative stuffs are not regulated by the FDA, and some are liver toxic. Activated charcoal I believe is hazardous. But beneficial when actually needed. A multivitiman in the morning and a b-12 complex noon and evening. And keep on keeping on. Would not hurt to get a blood tests every now and then to see how your organs are functioning. My tests showed a couple of elevated results that were not super over the edge but high enough to keep an eye on.

What keeps you going?

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- Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:52:35 EST H5zvl/ea No.29741
File: 1518727955434.jpg -(15753B / 15.38KB, 446x383) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What keeps you going?
Benz and booze addict here. I can't see myself living without it. Treatment isn't really an option, I'm in America and have no money or insurance. I'd just rather die than leave my family with a bunch of medical bills. I've tried every antidepressant there is as well as therapy for 10 years, and I'm still here. I think it's just time to go. *shrug*

What keeps you sober(ish) people living in the moment? For me, my dogs make me happy. I would never leave them purposely. But they are 16 years old and will probably pass soon anyway (which pains me immensely). I find pleasure in essentially nothing.

I want to get of benzos for good, especially with the sketchy street presses, but I just don't know how.
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Martha Piffinglidge - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:35:56 EST Ut6X+wPO No.29753 Reply
My family and my goals. My family I love and want to be there for, I couldn't imagine disappearing on them. And my goals give me something to be focused on day-to-day, right now that's working to get through school. That feeling you get when you accomplish a step on that way to your goals, that's what keeps me going. The more you do it the better it gets. I didn't care about it in the beginning, I was just kinda pushing myself because I felt I had no other choice. But now i like it

Kratom noob Trying to Quit Opiates

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- Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:08:34 EST bfKiBKJ8 No.29742
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I have purchased some Kratom and I'm finding WAY too much differing info about how to dose. So to the point

The kratom I purchased:
A "sampler" pack of 250mg Red Bali and 250mg of Elephant for 50 dollars from a popular online source. These are not 5-10-150-20x or anything like that, just regular powdered stuff that had good reviews.

2. I'm not even sure I got the right kind of kratom, I did research and from what I could tell Red Bali was good for WD and elephant was "strong" so if I fucked up the strain let me know

3. Dose. I'm mainly looking to relieve as much of the withdrawl symptoms as possible. Not necessarily looking to "get high" or anything, I just don't want to feel like junk. So what should I start out with?

4. ROA how should I consume it? I'm a poppy seed tea drinker so I'm used to NASTY taste so whatever way is the best I'm down for whatever

BACKGROUN I'd say my PST usage after my taper will be equivalent to like a 60-70mg a day OXY habit at the MAX! If I taper exactly how my plan is then I'd guess that is more likely to be 30-40mg equivalent OXY dose. I know this might sound quite low but I have terrible arthritis so the aches and pains normally felt during WD is amplified for me so it sucks worse.

tl;dr - Kratom noob. I have Red bali and Elephant 250mg each. How to consume, and how much to make WD from opiates suck less

pic unrelated.
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Edwin Finnerdale - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:46:27 EST H5zvl/ea No.29748 Reply
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Found a handy dandy chart for ya mate
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Jarvis Fucklefield - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:54:53 EST bfKiBKJ8 No.29749 Reply
>>29748
Thanks anon! Great help.
So 3tsp is around 15 grams so 500 (total) should last me a good bit.

Also I'm looking to outright quit opiates so naturally I'm concerned about swapping one addiction for another. So does kratom build tolerance with use? If so does it skyrocket with use like opiates? Are there any WD symptoms if I stop the kratom cold turkey? Thanks guise.
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Jarvis Fucklefield - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:55:16 EST bfKiBKJ8 No.29750 Reply
>>29748
>>29748
Thanks anon! Great help.
So 3tsp is around 15 grams so 500 (total) should last me a good bit.

Also I'm looking to outright quit opiates so naturally I'm concerned about swapping one addiction for another. So does kratom build tolerance with use? If so does it skyrocket with use like opiates? Are there any WD symptoms if I stop the kratom cold turkey? Thanks guise.

I keep abusing drugs to be someone I'm not so that I can feel loved for once

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- Sun, 11 Feb 2018 11:33:05 EST /1qsLh2A No.29735
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I just spent the past two days doing meth and oxy and benzos with someone I met on Tinder at their friend's place. I was clean for almost a year now. The girl was so sweet and nice to me, and we cuddled a lot, and were really intimate, and got along well, but we were high on meth and other drugs, so I know that's the only reason.

But, just for once, I felt so happy and normal and not anxious, and I finally got all the physical intimacy that I've never really had in my life. Somebody expressed that physical intimacy with me and I got to express it back, in such a comforting and deeply-fulfilling way. For those two days I felt so safe, and content, and okay, and I even loved myself, too. I finally just felt loved. And that's all I have ever wanted to feel.

The second I left their house, I just started sobbing uncontrollably and I continued to all the way on the drive home, and I still am crying, because I'm realizing now what I just did and I hate myself so much for it, especially after being clean for so long. I was doing so well and my friends were so proud of me for staying clean, but, fuck, I'm so plain and boring and empty and self-loathing by default, that it feels like without drugs the only things I ever do are work, eat, sleep, and hate myself in between. I cried because I knew I was going back to that when I got home - my empty apartment where I am always alone. I knew those two days of amazing, intimate love and happiness were over and the second that realization hit me I cried even harder.

I hate being alone so fucking much that I'll turn myself into someone I'm not by abusing drugs until someone will share love or intimacy with me, and I'm just always so afraid that I'm just always going to be alone and I'm never going to feel the way I just felt after that drug binge. I'm alone again right now, and I hate it so much. I just want to feel loved. I just want to be touched, hugged, held, and all that stuff, by someone I can trust and feel safe with. And the only time that has ever happened to me, I was on drugs.

I just don't understand why I need to be a fucking addict to ever feel loved by someone
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Nathaniel Peddleshit - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 07:46:14 EST MMNwHn9l No.29739 Reply
You should find that intimacy you want without the drugs.

Its rough, birds of a feather flock together so a druggie is most likely to find someone who gets it among other druggies, which is something I struggle with myself trying to stay clean. The only people who get it are hoods.

Suboxone detox

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- Sat, 27 Jan 2018 04:42:32 EST mlKdKExn No.29704
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Day 3 is incoming. I've heard different accounts of how long it took to get off sub withdrawal, and they range from a week to a month. Yesterday I had a bit of a mental breakdown whilst in an NA meeting, but I made it without using (no cravings yet, haven't had cravings since rehab before I had a spiritual awakening which saved my life) And I just woke up at 3am. In the evening today it'll be 72 hours. It'll be at its worst physically soon I hope. I keep telling myself it's not as bad as heroin withdrawal, I've been clean off that for 5 months and now I've run out of suboxone. I've been weaning down for a few months now, and I was down to 1mg or less per day. No amount of preparation makes this any easier though. If I get through today, I can make it through the rest. I'll be refilling my remeron prescription today for sleep (hopefully it works) and mentally and emotionally I'm fine (most of the time)

Compared to heroin withdrawal this is child's play, but it still is no joke. I've been able to get decent sleep so far, but who knows how the rest of it is going to play out. Anyone else get off this shit? I also have a possession case coming up in court for heroin, but I have a lawyer, I've been to rehab, I've been going to meetings several times a week for months, and my sponsor is willing to come to court as a character witness if necessary, so sentencing should be minimal.
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Ebenezer Publingbud - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 10:26:06 EST O4QqnIeq No.29713 Reply
>>29711
It differs from person to person. But, I know what you mean. You do have to come off it sometime right? People are too scared to take that last step when they already know it's going to happen anyway.

Glad the worst is over for you. Now, it should be smooth sailing from here on out. Keep the good work up and don't give in to temptation whenever it may arise.
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George Gammershaw - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:31:21 EST SSy6poVj No.29732 Reply
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I thought the thread title was"suboxone diet."

Best liver support supplements

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- Sat, 03 Feb 2018 18:33:56 EST wBRWJkvj No.29720
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I like my drugs
Mainly alcohol and cocaine off a weekend

Been doing it for the last 10 years

Now I still look fresh because I go the gym and eat healthy drink lots of water.

But i know the amount I take will take its toll on my body over the years.

So with that in mind what supplments should o take.

I know of milk thistle.Some people think it's a meme others espicaly juice heads think it works.I tried it once (well a full bottle) and I think it helped but I hardly get hangovers any way.

I've also read about liv 52 and NAC what's supposed to help with paracetamol over doses
The there is activated charcoal and ALA
Then there are then detox teas puka brand I have now and then (I actualy enjoy it)

Normally all I take though are them cheap vitamin b complex dissolve able tablets (like berrocas

So any way without going overboard and without stopping (I only really party or even drink every 2 weeks now) what should I take.


Any suggestions

Military Piss Test

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- Sat, 16 Dec 2017 01:22:04 EST E6B/Rrfx No.29627
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I got accepted into the United States Air Force and was told next Friday (the 22nd) I would take my physical. This includes a drug test. To celebrate I took 100mg of hydrocodone about 3 hours ago, knowing I won't be able to do any drugs once I'm in the military. My recruiter texted me 30 minutes ago and said the physical has been moved to Tuesday the 19th. Will the hydros be out of my system by then? I'm nervous.
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I<3Jesus - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 23:24:17 EST L+zYr+DL No.29650 Reply
I would say there is a pretty good chance that the military will know about drug use if you speak about it on the internet.
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Phyllis Sucklemick - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 07:49:28 EST rYIIdhhG No.29712 Reply
>>29650
Thats bullshit man. I was in the military (didn't get kicked out just finished my contract) and I met so many guys who smoked weed, snorted coke and did steroids. Not sure what US Army is like but people still use drugs in the Canadian Army. It's just something that is kept on the downlow. Sometimes we get random drug tests but nothing ever comes out of it.

Not telling OP to do drugs and go nuts as a new recruit but you'd be surprise. I remember doing my infantry training course and on the weekends doing 8balls of coke and smoking weed.

Don't be so paranoid.

So can I drive

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- Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:59:22 EST /aw9jl4Z No.29697
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If I've taken 10-15mg Valium the night before ?
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Ebenezer Dunningmudge - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:46:12 EST Kkh2V26L No.29707 Reply
>>29697
Have you taken it before let alone that much? Likely OK but if you ask, you would likely just fall asleep from it and nothing more.

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