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Benzo wihdrawl

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- Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:40:22 EST pwqqRz9j No.30116
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I posted this on /benz/ but figured you guys could help too

o i've been taking relatively large (unmeasured powder but i do have a mg scale and have weighed it a few times so i can eyeball decently, doesn't excuse my laziness for not measuring it out every time or making a solution). I'd say between 4-8mg daily for about a month now.

I know I am 100% physically dependent now and currently using alp powder as the etiz was unavailable.

However, when I wake up I honestly don't notice any withdrawl symptoms. Even at 5pm today i didn't necessarily feel any benzo withdrawl (i also take vyvanse and the crash from that never feels pleasant) but I did the toothpick method with the alp cause im terrified of having a seizure.

Would i feel a seizure come on or could it just happen out of the blue, like would my w/ds get progressively worse or could a seizure happen even if i felt fine physically?

Also best way to taper etiz?
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Albert Duvingbick - Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:39:05 EST P+lChTbV No.30145 Reply
>>30116
Those aren't big doses or lengthy duration. Everyone is different, but I wouldn't think a seizure likely and a taper from that would be easy for me maybe even cold turkey. To be on the safe side do a 1 or 2 week taper if you can substitute the etiz or alp for something longer acting like the golden standard diazepam/diclazepam or clonazePAM. Be aware of the build up of metabolites due to the longer acting effects. The Ashton Manual can guide you https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm and there are support forums for benzodiazepines. Don't worry too much, smoke if you feel it is appropriate and stay away from alcohol.

Has anyone quit guys and gal's

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- Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:32:19 EST QWeDtNLX No.30136
File: 1536766339411.jpg -(72040B / 70.35KB, 717x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Has anyone quit guys and gal's
I haven't seen anyone in this forum say they have actually given up the drugs. All seem to be switching from one thing to another to cut back or give up something else, or to pass a drug test for employment. Maybe if one went straight there would be no need to come back here and say so. No one will congratulate you. The few 12 steppers are ridiculed for being brainwashed and/or in a cult although it may be said they stop if you believe them.
If I may give an opinion I'd say it's the dopers who are in a cult and you'll drink the 'cool aid'. The cult is the media. That song by the Kaiser Chiefs Never Miss a Beat says it all. Drugs do change your mood (emotions etc) and it is short term and wears off. But why not change yourselves. Long term and lasting. Anyone out there who has succeeded? How did you actually give up. I hear from psychologist friends that the success rate of stopping substance abuse is 2.5%. The 12 steppers say the long term is Jails institutions and death whereas in my experience most I have known simply become alcoholics and complain about how badly off and mistreated they are.
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David Blannerwater - Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:46:30 EST YwZpcCaL No.30139 Reply
>>30138
What specific drug is running rampant in Iran? I'm curious now. Enlighten me.
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Observerperver - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:26:10 EST ZASTjFXm No.30140 Reply
>>30139 I believe it is smack from my recollections. I'll try and obtain more information if you wish although this may take a while due to my being extremely busy. But I can find out from Psych friends. Patience grasshopper..

cigarettes

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- Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:54:25 EST G1aVshVp No.29965
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How do you guys deal with the post smoking lack of attention, anxiety, depression, and boredom post smoking? After 5 months without smoking I realized I still felt like shit. Didn't feel as physically poisoned and sickly as being a chainsmoker, but still. Is this normal? It feels like a low grade version of how I've heard kicking heroin described. It's bad enough I'm almost considering going back just to feel more with it and productive again.
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John Clepperspear - Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:30 EST p8wgo5ss No.30121 Reply
>>30089
He's not talking about the addiction phase, obviously it's hard to quit at that point. He's talking about when people first start smoking, despite hearing about all of its bad effects and being previously warned not to. You can try and defend it, but there's no logical defense. It's just fucking stupid. Simple as that.
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Lillian Heblingferk - Mon, 03 Sep 2018 02:05:42 EST x6r76l6R No.30125 Reply
>>29965
Eh, just keep on with not smoking. Regardless. On my moms side of rality all of her friends she grew up with, all pretty much smoked. They are just plain dying left and right. Smoke and dye feeling like shit, or chance it and not smoke and eventually feel like everything is cool.
Stay away from people who smoke, that is what gets me suddenly feeing crappy, where smoking a cig would seem like things would feel Ok again.
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Cyril Mannerstotch - Sun, 09 Sep 2018 06:08:03 EST git3aj67 No.30129 Reply
>>30088
Peer pressure and suggestibility are strong things. It's not stupidity. It's just a lack of understanding of how strong the influences that affect us really are.

speed detox 2.0

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- Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:46:48 EST uh78kIBu No.30123
File: 1535899608169.jpg -(28060B / 27.40KB, 836x431) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. speed detox 2.0
how does speed (not meth) detox affect things and feel
and how long does it take.
i have some benzos to weaken the effects what else could you suggest.
been on it for like 2 years and have some final exams in 2.5 months which i have to learn effectifly for, does it even make sense to detox now?
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Jenny Cammlestone - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:46 EST rByY0b28 No.30127 Reply
I would say it's better to stay on it and detox after the exams

Having someone else pee

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- Mon, 03 Sep 2018 18:24:27 EST 4AIuxZRr No.30126
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What can they identify off the toxicological results about the one who peed?
Who would be the best candidate to pee in my place?

(I can bring results without anyone checking whether it was me who peed or not, so I'll take advantage of that hehe)

Hey

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- Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:27:32 EST Oz9cRT8I No.29863
File: 1524594452053.webm [mp4] -(1570442B / 1.50MB, 400x294) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hey
It's going to be OK. Let go and let God. Do you have a higher power in your life yet? It can be anything. Alcoholism is a spiritual disease man. Please turn to page 153 of the Big Book ($25 by the coffee table that is one of the traditions we don't take donations). This completes my 240 hours of community service. I'm out of this bitch. Got to go and pay $3000 to get this fucking interlock removed.
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Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:48:53 EST pwqqRz9j No.30119 Reply
>>30085
i did the same thing on a much smaller scale 6 months total sobriety living in recovery house cause i was strung out on heroin.


As soon as i moved out of the sober house I smoked weed and just smoke weed and take benzos occasionally (which i know is playing with fire) and in November ill have a year off dope
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Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:50:06 EST pwqqRz9j No.30120 Reply
>>30119
btw the benzo use turned into an everyday thing which is not good but luckily i have the means to a constant supply but would like to taper off ASAP

Niacin

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- Sun, 26 Aug 2018 01:09:18 EST qV11Dc3q No.30109
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What is it like taking one capsule of 1000 mg of Niacin? Bad? Good?

This could either go here or under benzos, but..
Long story short, I got a DUII for marijuana. In diversion currently which requires me to take treatment classes. In these classes they do drug tests each class, which is weekly. Sometimes the tests are weekly, sometimes they skip one, you really don't know.
Being stupid, this morning I stumbled across my old anxiety/depression prescriptions from like 2 years ago. Thought hm why not, I might feel a bit better; been stressing lately because of money shit and other personal issues. I took 2 tablets of 1 mg of clonazopam and 1 tablet of 10 mg of lexapro. Shortly after, realizing those would show up on the test. Tried to vomit them out, no luck.
I figure I'm going to be tested Friday, but my plan this week is to just drink a ton of water throughout the week. I bought a jar of niacin capsules a while ago to try and clear weed from my system. The capsules are 1000 mg though and I'm reading that's usually the max daily. I've read conflicting things like its okay, its not advised, its painful, its pleasant. I'm just looking for insight I guess.

Is this a good idea?
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James Brunnerville - Sun, 26 Aug 2018 08:00:32 EST GjQtgtw2 No.30110 Reply
You're going to experience the flushing, itchiness etc if you haven't already been used to taking B3, Also you really don't want to over do it on that shit you'll fuck up your liver or worse, take 500mg everyday while exercising, staying hydrated and it may help you pass your drug test, but tts not guaranteed. Also Clonazepam only stays in your system for 2 days, and i doubt they are testing for SSRIs so im confused what you're worried about?

Geodon 40mg withdrawal

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- Sat, 25 Aug 2018 02:23:58 EST HDOwOJoP No.30106
File: 1535178238081.jpg -(2252123B / 2.15MB, 2576x1932) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Geodon 40mg withdrawal
First night of quitting after reducing from 40mg twice a day. Feels like a mushroom or acid comedown, seems to be dopaminic, very flu like symptoms, this should be interesting. Anyone else detoxing from antipsychotics? Cheers and have some aluminium fingers for your time.

Weed Emergency flush!!!

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- Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:46:35 EST l5xMuAwA No.30101
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Hey, /detox/. I recently enrolled in school to become an EMT. I have been a regular weed smoker (I wouldn't say heavy maybe a bowl or two a day) for the past few years. Only problem is first day of class, they announced they are going to piss test us soon. They never mentioned any shit like this but I am shitting my pants. I knew they would eventually but not at the very fucking beginning I stopped on Monday (Aug 20) and was smoking kinda lightly before that because I was almost out of weed. I have been chugging gallons of water and eating a lot of fruit. I am about to pick up niacin supplements. Do you guys have any ideas for this situation? Or should I just choose the hail mary and go for the fake piss? I may have another day or two. Maybe till next monday.
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Basil Wodgeham - Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:51:16 EST iyxJnw7G No.30102 Reply
>>30101
If a week at best, use a daily real peoples piss. Figure out how they test. Had to be tested back as a Juvenal. This guy would sit merely a foot away from the toilet at eye level and could see and would deliberately splatter piss on hit face. He obviously liked it so I tried other methods to make him hate to be around me at any given time.

Especially giving UAs. Apparently a few would just piss on him. Oopps.

Anyway, If you have some privacy do try clean urine r if fake works, do that.
Not having somebody actively observing you, just practice and be confident.
Don't fuck up an easy scenario.

A week, may be cutting it overly close. Just as well they may not test for weeks.

Recovery / Mental Health Discord

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- Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:31:14 EST K93bMCjm No.30095
File: 1534440674611.jpg -(91912B / 89.76KB, 599x602) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Recovery / Mental Health Discord
I started a Discord server as the basis for an outreach for drug users in need of some sort of help, but who may not feel comfortable with any more formal treatment setting. The idea is that it's entirely peer run and without judgement. It's not about 100% sobriety, it's about watching each others' backs as much as possible, because not everybody can afford treatment; not everybody wants to go to AA/NA, and not everyone is ready to make a commitment for the rest of their life, but we all could use some help once in a while.

I invite anyone to come, those who have some clean time already, those who don’t but want to get there, or anyone grappling with all of the mental and physical health issues that surround substance abuse. We’re here to help in any way we can, from offering potential tools for recovery to just having someone to talk to on a bad day or a good one.

We are trying to foster an easygoing openminded community with an emphasis on not having a particular agenda. We’re not affiliated with AA, NA, SMART, Refuge or any other program. Any and all treatment perspectives are welcome as long as we’re all lifting each other up, not putting anyone down, or putting any specific treatment on a pedestal. From information, to resources, to coping skills, whatever works for the you, we have a place to share it with others.

And anything that’s not working for you is why we’re here to help! Drop by anytime :) https://discord.gg/KNzz9Wk

P.S. If you have any suggestions on how to improve things feel free to submit them.

Treatment Center fucking me around

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- Sat, 14 Jul 2018 23:57:50 EST F1UDU73h No.30036
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WOW, so this is what happened to me today, I show up to my treatment center after work, wasn't able to go home and shower and get the weed smell off my person. My Current Counselor tells me that I won't be allowed to join todays class because it's "triggering" to people who are recovering. I try to Compromise and rush over to the Krogers next door to buy a can of spray deodorant so I don't smell like cannabis. After doing this and spraying myself with about half the fucking can and going in to see if I wasn't smelling like ganja anymore, she tells me she'll be able to let me participate. I go outside. NOT EVEN FIVE MINUTES GOES PAST AND SHE RETRACTS HER STATEMENT. I now have a second strike against me and technically because of this I violated the contract I signed with her because I accidentally missed a UA one sunday because of confusion on cutoff time. BECAUSE OF THIS I RISK GOING TO JAIL AND NOT BEING ABLE TO COMPLETE MY DIVERSION. I'm fucking pissed, and I feel like she is unjustly discriminating against me because of my job in the cannabis industry. I understand that it may trigger some people, but I did more than enough to try and accomodate this pompous fat cunt.

I plan on calling the director tommorow and Telling my side of the story, and if she doesn't want to work with me, then I may look into getting a lawyer and am thinking i might need to switch treatment centers. What do you guys think?
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Charlotte Tootwell - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:50:25 EST cXy+on2h No.30051 Reply
>>30036
Wow what a cunt. Sounds like you're being discriminated and in your case I'd do the same thing and talk with the director.

But, all methadone clinics are filled with staff there who truly don't give a fuck about the recovering addicts and are assholes. I was in a clinic for two years. Place was a fucking joke. So I know how you feel.
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Fucking Branningforth - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:40:46 EST bTvU4UAH No.30083 Reply
I like how they call it a class. The recovery industry is such a gigantic scam it's insane.
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Fucking Branningforth - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:42:22 EST bTvU4UAH No.30084 Reply
>>30050
He has a legal job working with drugs. His counsellor and you should jump off a building together

Weed: Degenerate shit for soyim

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- Sat, 30 Jun 2018 20:52:47 EST kDE2sVDK No.30000
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Weed raises Estrogen levels:
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
>http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

Weed Smokers Have More Violent Convictions:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26961342

Weed Causes Cancer:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4642772/

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18238947

Weed Reduces Volume Of Various Regions Of The Brain And Negatively Effects Motivation:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4104335/

Weed Is Addictive:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3606907/
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Sidney Wedgeson - Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:55:55 EST faFEhEXC No.30063 Reply
I agree weed sucks but far-right memes are just as damaging to your brain IMO.
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Beatrice Hoffingmidge - Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:03:20 EST tlKfe1RT No.30065 Reply
I got my testosterone tested because I thought I might be low test because I'm a generally meek and diffident person with lots of anxiety and I can't grow a beard in my mid 20's, but it turns out my test is over 1000 which is higher than normal and I smoke hella weed. Don't buy into this testosterone determines personality crap because it's not true.
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George Shittingwell - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:30:43 EST GjQtgtw2 No.30078 Reply
>>30065
This, on the flip side I've known someone who was an aggressive, hyper-masculine right-winger who was kinda jacked (physically) and he confided in me that he had to get testosterone supplements in his 20s cause he had genetically inherited low -t and his hair was falling out.

for anyone recovering from a dissociative addiction

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- Fri, 01 Jun 2018 12:19:07 EST pHsWgtaT No.29917
File: 1527869947868.jpg -(22397B / 21.87KB, 197x358) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. for anyone recovering from a dissociative addiction
>on a six month break from heavy ketamine and pcp use
>get the urge to dissociate again and buy four bottles of dxm syrup on a whim
>sit infront of the bottles at my computer for hours contemplating whether it's a good idea
>try to justify it with its antidepressant effects but ended up pouring them down my sink
>immediately feel like a weight's been lifted off my shoulders and get a sudden surge of energy and optimism

obviously I can't speak on behalf of anyone except myself but I think that not succumbing to the allure of dissos if you're trying to stay clean has a better antidepressant effect than a weeklong ketamine infusion session

hang in there
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Lillian Sablingback - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:39:45 EST wszRbaUe No.29961 Reply
OP this post actually helped me a lot, I had just bought some Delysm the other day and was considering doing it but then I saw this post, thanks.
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Thomas Demmlelack - Fri, 22 Jun 2018 00:29:23 EST osOBw04Q No.29967 Reply
>>29961
Our grocery story every now and then has sales on the large bottles, just dxm I guess. I like taking a tablespoon or two just as a mind adjuster. Think clearly,
interested in stuff more. $2.25? compared to $16 #18 $22? dollars. I like a tablespoon or two of codeine syrup as well. For pain, happy as a clam. A bit more, yea, it's called lean for a reason it would seem.
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Sidney Wedgeson - Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:01:04 EST faFEhEXC No.30064 Reply
>>29919
I felt this way after several years of DXM binges and constant weed smoking. But over time, my mind is way clearer. The only symptom that remains of my abuse is HPPD. That shit never goes away.

Etiz withdrawal fuckup

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!0R/XnN1IK. - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 23:06:48 EST H5zvl/ea No.30035
File: 1531624008119.jpg -(138203B / 134.96KB, 1421x1278) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Etiz withdrawal fuckup
Slipped up on my taper. Have been doing 2mg Etizolam a day, 1 in the morning, 1 at night, and trying to minimise (as much..or, little as possible, haha.. Benzo w/d is hell, even when you're just cutting down.
Anyway. I took my 1mg this morning, had a fucked day, and came home with a 6 pack and took 4mg Etiz with my beers. Will not redose again tonight, but shit, how bad did I fuck up my tolerance and inevitable w/d symptoms? I'm fucking terrified.
My only options now are to go to a free clinic. I have no insurance. I could ask for antidepressants to help ease benzo withdrawal symptoms, but does that work?
I withdrew before and wanted to crash my car into a tree or die in my sleep and just never wake up, because the feelings when I wake up are the most unbearable .
Any pharmaceuticals or other substances help get you off the benzo roller coaster? I've been an overindulgent user for years and it's fried my brain. Minor benz use, once a week or so and no blackout moments is safer than where I am. I respect anyone who can control themselves like that over this deadly addiction.
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Charlotte Hobblewell - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:39:53 EST JeCbk9Tw No.30039 Reply
My plan for getting off etiz is to just taper down, and smoke mad chron. Probably have less a benzo tolerance than you though
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Thomas Drabbleford - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:55:10 EST 3CI0Vaty No.30040 Reply
>>30035
just go back to your routine without thinking much of it. its not great but your still going to be fine on your 1mg twice a day. dont go over that. dont let it happen again. unless your on a very limited supply it wont be a major setback. just try to forget about it.

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