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Alcohol Abstinence Thread

- Tue, 22 Aug 2017 07:47:47 EST 5nT9NWqY No.29436
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Greetings /detox/.

After really admitting to myself how badly my alcohol addiction was affecting other aspects of my life, I have made a serious decision to stop usage for a while. I am going to document my journey in this thread to amuse the bored, encourage those who may be dealing with similar problems, and to keep myself focused and honest. If I slip up I will be honest as well.

Little background:
>Duration of alcoholism: 8 years
>Frequency of consumption: 5-7 days per week with no period of abstinence longer than 2 days
>Amount consumed per day: ~7oz of ethanol in an evening
>Affected aspects of life: work, school, relationships, hobbies, mental and physical health

I am currently on my fourth day with no alcohol and I am already seeing and feeling notable improvements in my body and mind. I will go over how each day felt.

>First 24 Hours
By far the worst. Not only from the withdrawals, but the knowledge that booze is not coming any time soon. Sweating, shaking hands, lack of appetite, insomnia, flushed skin, increased blood pressure, irritability, dark and disturbing dreams when sleep comes in fits

>24-48 Hours
The dandruff I started to notice over the past couple of months already looks almost completely cleared up, amazingly, as well as a few pimples on my face. Bloating of abdomen and general system-wide inflammation decreased. Belly size shrunk, clothes fitting looser. Appetite growing. Sleeping still difficult, but less sweating. Occasional faint auditory hallucinations.

>48-72 Hours
Getting more bearable. Starting to feel a tiny glimmer of hope that I can rise out of the hole I have dug. Shits are solid and don't smell sickly sweet. Further decrease in bloating and inflammation. Since digestive system has finally caught a break from continuous processing of toxic poison sludge (I mostly drink 40's containing HFCS), my appetite is extremely strong. Mind fog starting to lift. Almost scared at the resurgent cognition after removing CNS depressant. Like a muffled voice that can finally speak freely, my thoughts are racing almost faster than I can keep up.

>72-96 Hours
This is where I am now. Can't sleep tonight, I'll just pull an all-nighter and crash tomorrow night. After laying in bed awake for a few hours I decided to make this thread. My digestive system feels wonderful. You don't know how nice a solid poop is until you are a truly depraved alcoholic. My mind feels clear. I am looking forward to a nice big nutritious breakfast tomorrow since I won't be hungover and bloated and nibbling on toast. I am no longer perspiring abnormally, and the shakes in my hands are almost 100% gone, I can hold them very still like I used to.

I won't blog this shit every day, but every few days I'll update my detox thread for my own viewing later. Anyone has comments/questions, toss 'em in the thread.
Shitting Pickshaw - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 01:35:04 EST detTgL0H No.29438 Reply
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I can't relate to a lot of your beer-specific problems OP, but I'm a recovering vodkaholic also trying to shunt a $300/week coke habit. My typical night saw a 750 of New Amst and some lines. Pic related, when advertising gets too real.

The first week for me literally required tapering (when your heart is going wrong because you didn't drink today, you should probably have a drink. One, not 7, mind...) and trading blow for Rockstar so I could get aaaanything done.

I just finished my first week without a drink as of this morning. I'm now past most of the physical withdrawal of both things, but I still feel seriously depleted like I just got back from Coachella or something. It's getting easier, but I'm definitely not healthy yet.

Biggest motivators for me are lifestyle related. I could probably continue this party cycle till I literally die, but I hit a wall. I looked back at the summer and things I wanted to do, and realized how fucking much I squandered partying hard on the weeknights at local clubs and bars and shit. Literally thousands just this summer, that's a fucking drag. I wanna do much cooler shit. Hell, if I had this under control I could be anywhere in the world having a martini right now. That's my motivation.

But back to where we are now...
Sleep is goddamn impossible, I feel you there. Best of luck. Hope the nightmares aren't horrific, but they prolly are. I lost probably 30 pounds over the last half a year, so I'm eating really intentionally to get that back, but my appetite still sucks.

We got this though, dude. Gonna be so worth it to see the other side.
Nigel Figgledock - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:18:22 EST OYtBNURz No.29450 Reply
Not sure what 7oz equals but withdrawawl is certainly dangerous. A trip to an emergency room or some unguent care centers, primary doctor can give you benzos to get you through 3 4 days.
Past 3 days apatite should be fairly good. By 5 days should be back to basic activity. Even
a new found energy to accomplish things.
Lydia Pittwill - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 07:23:46 EST Fyx6fbQl No.29477 Reply
total failure so far guys. haven't had a success as good as the OP since i wrote it. been on the booze about 27 of the past 30 days
Amsterdam - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 00:26:30 EST Hm5eYvHT No.29480 Reply
Also bounced back, but I'm still reduced about 90% from where I was earlier on. Keep at it, we'll get there. Or just switch to better booze so the consequences add up faster LOL.
John Pommlebury - Thu, 28 Sep 2017 22:19:03 EST oF3ykWyb No.29496 Reply
please don't give up. I'm 26 years old and an alcoholic. I've tried quitting several times and made it 5 days before caving back in. Because im not very social it doesnt effect me much but i do want to stop and be more social and go out more. Maybe seeing you succeed will help motivate me? Since ive already been drinking tonight, ill make it my last night and try to go along with you.
James Pallerlock - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 04:15:33 EST Hm5eYvHT No.29527 Reply
It me, the vodkaholic.
Not without my failures, but things are going ok. I had a pretty bad moment last week and drank a bottle, woke up by the bridge at a homeless camp, hated everything and came too damn close to offing myself...

But it was sorta motivational, reminded me that this is the explicit kind of bullshit I just don't have room for in my life. Making the voices in my head shut the fuck up is why I drink from the get go. I'm trying to believe that eventually I'll get some kinda emotional stability back, but it's gonna take a while. Been basically sober (sans a beer or two) since that incident. Despite taking steps backwards it still feels like I'm making progress, and I still want it bad enough, fortunately.

Good luck fuckers.
James Pallerlock - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 04:15:33 EST Hm5eYvHT No.29528 Reply
It me, the vodkaholic.
Not without my failures, but things are going ok. I had a pretty bad moment last week and drank a bottle, woke up by the bridge at a homeless camp, hated everything and came too damn close to offing myself...

But it was sorta motivational, reminded me that this is the explicit kind of bullshit I just don't have room for in my life. Making the voices in my head shut the fuck up is why I drink from the get go. I'm trying to believe that eventually I'll get some kinda emotional stability back, but it's gonna take a while. Been basically sober (sans a beer or two) since that incident. Despite taking steps backwards it still feels like I'm making progress, and I still want it bad enough, fortunately.

Good luck fuckers.
Fucking Blythelock - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 12:01:44 EST zAarJhX4 No.29535 Reply
Medical mj or talk to a doctor

You can quit booze, I did.

Medical professionals were the solution.
composure - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:55:23 EST xIPywP6Y No.29577 Reply
you're a mime type

these people are oppressing me by having this limiting presence on my aura
authority, man
fuck that weak in the knees
bleaker than dead trees
hitters only get cheese
when they walk like Gs

instead of drinking, i'm eating stale tortilla chips

i'm def taking it one activity at a time rn
Clara Sabblehun - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 06:04:35 EST L7lDLlKs No.29602 Reply
ive drunken nearly a full handle of vodka in 2 days. I blacked out on the 30th, and i blacked out this evening.

Where am I on the alcoholic spectrum? this is the second time ive guzzled a handle in a months time. Im alone, and i drink happy. I talk to my girlfriend and friends, and i drink more. Im feeling shitty about all sorts of things, and i really dont think i would drink this much if i were left to myself without contact from other people.

was it ever this bad for you?
Molly Navingtot - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 06:11:48 EST G77DQ0hw No.29605 Reply
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Best way to stop the addiction is the bingemattress method. I used to be a heavy drinker. Like 3 bottles of fortified wine was needed to get proper drunk.
Now Im 8 months clean. Heres what you do.
First, overpay all your bills and stock up on instant foods and distilled water and celtic sea salt (for magnesium and potassium and nutrition) and puke buckets.to put around your mattress. Then binge on booze and smokes, spend all your cash so you can't relapse, have two weeks off responsibilities and stay in bed for two weeks getting up only to use a toilet.
Its gonna be rough as hell and only your strong will will get you through this time of hallucinating, puking, trembling and miserable existance.
My advice is also to use an HDMI cable to connect a laptop to a huge monitor so you can read books and watch movies right next to bed so you arent bored while puking up poison residue.
Shit Crivinggold - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 10:11:07 EST G77DQ0hw No.29610 Reply
Hope only thrives in the presence of strong will
Graham Buzzspear - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 15:05:47 EST 59u5V4fW No.29611 Reply
3 year alcoholic here. I drink roughly 8 units before I pass out every evening. Longest I lasted w/o alc is 3 days. I plan to quit today for a week just to clear my head. Wish me luck bros. Alcohol is a double edged sword
Cedric Gullerwodging - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 08:35:01 EST tbDlc7QV No.29612 Reply

Day 1 w/o alcohol. A little shaky. Can’t sleep for shit. Maybe ill take some melatonin tmr night.
Matilda Winnerbin - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 14:39:58 EST L7lDLlKs No.29613 Reply
just about a week out from my binge, no noticeable withdrawal symptoms, kidneys still hurt. am i fucked friends?
Jack Padgeston - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 17:19:17 EST Evuvx1eS No.29614 Reply
OP here i have continued to drink an average of 6.5/7 days of the week since the initial post

Hope is lost
Clara Binkintidging - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 17:32:48 EST 59u5V4fW No.29615 Reply

Day 2. Still kind of shaky but otherwise not any worse from yesterday. I've been drinking lots of fluids and eating healthy such as lots of carbs, protein, and fruit. Was a little on edge though as I could not fall asleep for the longest time. I had insomnia really bad, couldn't go to sleep til about 4:30 in the morning.

So far other than the shakes and insomnia I haven't had any other serious withdrawals, or cravings for alcohol. I've been smoking weed and hoping that will eventually replace my alcohol habit once I'm out of the clear.
Charles Mucklehall - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:03:01 EST wAOaj2ig No.29635 Reply
So I'm on night 3 of not drinking and I'm fucking bored as hell. Usually at this point im 6-8 beers deep which is what I would usually drink a night. I haven't experienced any withdrawals minus a few major cravings at times I would usually drink, but they eventually subside after 20-30 minutes.

Sleeping hasn't been difficult and I actually wake up feeling great rather than groggy and tired. I've been smoking weed to help with periods of cravings and to help eat. I think this time I'm committed to not drinking for at least a month or two because I've trashed my body the last 3 years drinking every day.

I understand that nothing will fill that "void", but I pretty much threw away most of the hobbies I enjoyed when I started drinking so hopefully that will change.
George Bunridge - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 01:09:59 EST Miuyj/+F No.29655 Reply
No dude, that's a setback. It doesn't have to be the end of the line.
Remember back when you were a little kid learning how to walk? Well of course you didn't because you were a fucking baby. This is what happens when you learn how to walk though: You fall flat on your ass, and you get up again. Over and over. Until you stop falling.

Everyone has done this. Fucking up and starting drinking again doesn't mean you can't stop, it just means you have to try again.
Wesley Davinghood - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 14:46:19 EST nkd0pxC0 No.29663 Reply

>>29655 is right, it's not over! Fighting addiction is a really, really difficult thing to do, don't expect yourself to get it perfect right off the bat. Get professional help, talk to someone about this and maybe it'll be easier than doing it on your own. Keep trying, you can do it, it'll be fucking horrendous at times but people have done it before and you are capable of doing it too.

It's not relapsing that sucks, it's giving up. You deserve a good life without addiction. Keep going.
Simon Haddlecocke - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:34:29 EST +lQ+oiSH No.29689 Reply
Been drinking around a fifth a day for quite a few years now. Today is 10 days since I have had any alcohol. I still feel like shit but what I really need to know is are the tremors going to get better? They've been getting worse as far as I can tell and it's really starting to affect my job. People notice it and I really don't want to have that talk about my past. I think I can keep going without booze but I'm feeling worse every day now.
Wesley Callerford - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:59:18 EST EH+26nMR No.29691 Reply
OP here 5 months later. So far I have drank two 40's every night of this year. Tonight I am going to sum up all my willpower and not consume alcohol. Just gotta make it to 2AM... can't wait to toss and turn all night. If I manage to make it 2 or 3 days I will post my progress...
Cornelius Blackwell - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 19:06:17 EST 4qxXrqS6 No.29702 Reply
Update us even if you have made it to 2-3 days yet
Ebenezer Dunningmudge - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:35:12 EST Kkh2V26L No.29706 Reply
Try to get some benzos, clonazepam is long acting. Librium is mild and I think long acting. These should minimalize the shakes. I had in the past shook soo much pennies would go all over the place at the liquor store counter. They were, have always been cool about it. Haven't shook soo much in a while. Haven't drank for at least a couple if not a few weeks. They should go away I would say
in a week. TAKE VITAMINS, especially B-12 complex. Drinking heavily then stopping, and not having especially thiamine B-12 vitamins can cause a syndrome in the brain that can be permanent damage. Also heavy drinking and suddenly stopping can be dangerous, so that is where benzodiazipines can
actually save one from expiring. Kicking herion or opiates will not kill you but
suddenly stopping alcohol, even with weekly binge drinking can cause you to die. Even benzos for extended periods of time and suddenly stopping and cause you to die. But benzos are what they would give one at a hospital for severe alcohol withdrawawl. Severe ahakes, seeing black spider things auditory hallucinations, basically DTs one should go to an ER, they see this stuff a
lot. But your shakes should stop if you take B-12 vitamins, regardless if you are taking them already.
Samuel Fibblestug - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:44:32 EST p+1OPm6K No.29724 Reply
>>A trip to an emergency room or some unguent care centers, primary doctor can give you benzos to get you through 3 4 days.

Just remember this: you should expect to be locked up in (american) detox after they give you benzos and you will get billed out the ass for it in a lot of places, insurance or not. If you can get naltrexone and gabapentin tapering is doable, but there aren't many doctors that prescribe those. Where I live, they dont just hand out benzos in your regular clinic and send you on your way.

If you do just say fuck it and go to a hospital with the shakes you will likely end up in detox in the US, so research which one that clinic refers to if possible, and also get a ride. DO NOT CALL 911 unless you are going to fucking drop dead where you stand or you want a bunch of cops and paramedics hauling you off. I ended up locked up in detox over the dumbest shit once, sober after 8 hours and threatening to sue them.

Shakes and moderate auditory hallucinations are not immediately something to freak out about as long as somebody else is around at all times. My experience has been stuff like thinking your phone is ringing, shit like that for 3 days or so, plus lactic acid and no appetite for a week tops. The hallucinations are all very immediately recognizable, not like trainspotting type shit. Your mileage may vary.
Lillian Perrylock - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 18:47:30 EST EH+26nMR No.29728 Reply

I took one day off a few days ago. Stayed awake all night. Otherwise still drinkin errday of the year so far but I have cut it down to just one 40.
George Gammershaw - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:15:31 EST SSy6poVj No.29731 Reply
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This thread gives me hope. I'm gonna try detoxing myself with valerian root.

"Overall though, the researchers concluded that valerian was well-tolerated, and had a positive effect on withdrawal benzodiazepine use, with no interactions between the two (Poyares et al., 2002)."

Although rehab was pretty fun the first time, idk if it's a good idea to take a month off right now. It's complicated. Plus withdrawal shouldn't be too bad (a- I'm probably still in the moderate dependency classification, b- I have a supportive family). And detox is gonna be infinitely better if I'm surrounded by cats.

I think there's something to this valerian root stuff anyway.
Cornelius Blatherwell - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:32:30 EST J3rc3ObZ No.29737 Reply
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i never heard of using Valerian to deal with alcohol w/d, though it has definetely helped me sleep when i was getting sober. I would suggest Kava for during the day, as that will have more of an effect on the anxiety issues. Try and find one of those suppliment complexes with kava, GABA, theanine etc in it, that helped me get through opi w/d before, well that and weed but weed can become another crutch if you let it. good luck tho sober life definetely has its perks.
Betsy Blessleputch - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:17:27 EST BLpw/bxD No.29738 Reply
Try diphenhydramine for sleep. It's not the best but may help, drunk a 24ozer and 50 mgs of sleep aid, allergy tabs are cheap. If not working first night next night would likely work. Don't take over 50mgs of benadryl, diphendramine or you willl have a shitty sleep after 4 hours of sleeping with a dry mouth, needing to drink water every ten minutes.
Edwin Finnerdale - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:39:39 EST H5zvl/ea No.29746 Reply
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Thank you for this! I'm a benzo addict first, but with alcohol I'm wanting to cut back to just social. I know the wd symptoms for benz and alcohol can be similar. It's the withdrawal that scares me. What if I pass out and hurt myself? I have no insurance, no savings. What if my anxiety is so bad I can't perform at my job and am forced out? I've thought about telling my bosses that I'm struggling, but again, I can't fucking afford to take weeks off with no pay to go to a facility through the Employee Helpline thing. Plus, then everyone knows your a fucking addict and will find a way to fire you a week after you get back anyway.
Sorry to rant in your thread. Just wanted to say this is awesome, gives me some hope, and keep itbup OP!
Eugene Goodbury - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:03:03 EST oGVyIvhg No.29751 Reply
I've got the worst fucking hangover. puking and shaking and shit. I've been drunk for a couple weeks straight, I think. IDK though the time bleeds together. Seriously don't know how long I was drunk, but I know I've done a lot of regrettable shit the past couple months. I've been a fucking toxic child.

I'm stopping. I need to completely abstain for a long time. Then, maybe I can re-learn how to drink? I think after a break, I could learn to drink like a civilized person. Not a fucking savage.
Emma Darrynuck - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:46:00 EST vRJPC8Jm No.29755 Reply
Quit for a month as a starting goal. I din't see re-learning to drink casually if you have gotten into the cannot tell between the 6pm dark and the morning 6am darkness. Monday or thursday thing.
Eugene Drirringbury - Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:39:08 EST oGVyIvhg No.29761 Reply
I lasted two days, but I'm making changes. No more drinking by myself. And I'll only drink with people who have brakes. Drinking with another alkie at 10am? Been through that enough. Its fun, but damn. Also, no more drinking for the sole purpose of sleep. That's stupid.

Basically, i gotta only drink when theres a moderating influence around.

Totally abstaining was a stupid drunken idea that wouldnt work. Fuck abstinence.

Has anyone ever tried naltrexone? If you take it before dranking, its supposed to cut down on the cravings so you just drink way less by choice. That seems handy.
Eugene Drirringbury - Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:53:43 EST oGVyIvhg No.29762 Reply
For example: casual drinking with another 2 alchies? We're getting at least a 30 rack. Casual drinking with normal drinkers? Split a 12 pack.
Emma Gillerlock - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:20:13 EST fthwn4rZ No.29763 Reply
We used to get a twelve pack between 3 of us, or four for a friday saturday night. Just a cool kick back buzz.. Smoke maybe a bit if we had some and just BS about stiuff.

But later it turned into a lot of us turned into getting drunk drinkers. The happy kinda walking home or going to bed thinking about stuff had ended.

Ondnansteron may help, if you have a primary care DR, and insurance would help.
These are like 5 8 dollars a pilll. I have not drank for at least a couple of momths.
Don't or rarely take these pills. Finally understood that the stakes are pretty high
at this pont. Missed many years, oppourtunity. Drinking to sleep. I have been
asleep for too long and oirgot about direction. Plans that are simple but barely
focus on anything that moves me forward, but rather focus on things that
take up all the energy and accomplish nothing. Which is basically drinking.

So Just saying, I know if I do not drink, I am not missing anything. If I do
drink I cannot really accomplish anything and am missing a lot. Years.

So as well to you i hope I can keep away from the stuff. Last year I missed everything.
The year before, and on. Weeks months can go by, doing it not drinking is soo
much easier to deal with, than avoiding everything with drininking.
Archie Turveylock - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:36:42 EST rYIIdhhG No.29798 Reply
LOL this is me from 5th grade except I did plenty of meth. I honestly cannot name a drug I haven't touched. I can get addicted to stims and benzos but not alcohol. I just hate the taste. Sorry to shitpost in your thread.
Ian Pillerwet - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:20:12 EST n7VdvLnw No.29811 Reply
OP here again. Still failed to kick the booze, but I have succeeded in two major changes: drinking less (only one 40 instead of two) and less often (only 3-4 days/week). Considering I was drinking two 40's every single day I consider this a good step toward responsible use. I didn't drink last night and I am going to try to stay dry all the way till Saturday night, which will be my longest break of 2018 if I succeed. I think I can do it. Skin is crawling, face is flushed, dark circles under eyes, BUT I don't have nausea or insomnia so I think it's manageable. When I get the cravings I will just watch Dark Souls playthroughs until it's after 2AM (when places can't sell booze anymore where I live) and then I made it. Wish me luck, I will continue updating on my pathetic struggles. If I make it to day 4 or 5 I will resume my OP style of describing more details and sensations on a timeline.
Jarvis Grandstock - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 01:40:39 EST oGVyIvhg No.29821 Reply
This is me. Fuck abstinence. I'm still drinking an unhealthy amount, but it's way better than before, I think it'll get even better. If it doesn't, I could probably go a couple more decades like this, barring severely unlucky shit.

Change is what's important. AA has completely distorted our perspective of addiction. Incremental change isn't valued, and total abstinence is the only accepted answer. That's despite a shitload of actual evidence.
Sophie Grandhall - Sun, 25 Mar 2018 20:05:31 EST uRPtTwg/ No.29823 Reply
/psy/ is that way.

LSD has been waiting for you friend.
Nigel Blummlebanks - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 18:52:57 EST LzVfz4HN No.29827 Reply
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I posted here earlier whatever
So far I've made minimal success in tapering. I'm still drinking most of the week. Still don't wanna spend a month in rehab. I'm almost 24 hours sober. I will use natural products to help me sleep and chill out the nerves and blood pressure. If I start getting bad shakes my brother can go get me an emergency bottle.

I'm going to AA in an hour. There's a lot of things about it I don't like, but it's pretty much the only thing I haven't tried (as in doing 90 meetings in 90 days and seriously working the steps). They say take what you want and leave the rest, so I'll think of that when somebody says something like "I'm powerless over my life!" (The book says powerless over *alcohol*, jagweed.)
Samuel Blathergold - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 14:35:28 EST 9tvz4Hoj No.29828 Reply
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It is tricky not to drink. I've been not drinking for 2 days now and feel good. Going to try and not drink ever again. I laugh at the idea now, but i really hate drunk me. Recently I have been having blackouts and physically hurting myself. It's just not fun and never really was fun to drink alcohol for me.
Nicholas Dravingfuck - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 16:00:46 EST n7VdvLnw No.29833 Reply
OP here. Drank every night since my last post. Pathetic. Will try to not fail today.
Doris Pockfoot - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 20:41:13 EST fc/VUtsx No.29845 Reply
For anyone curious, I lurk here when I'm detoxing from vodka and take 50 mg Naltrexone nightly and a shit ton of Gabapentin for it. They work up to a point but can be defeated if you are determined enough. The key for nightly Naltrexone is accountability from somebody that is informed about how it works. It can be hard to say:

>>"Yeah OK watch me take this magical tapering pill and proceed to nurse my liter of vodka. Don't worry I won't enjoy it it's only harm reduction for a month, I'm logging my use, etc."

That's what it takes for me to stay on the shit. You don't really get buzzed from the booze and just feel drowsy and shitty. You will drink less if you follow through and probably smoke/binge eat/jack off less too. Just don't break your foot on that stuff like I did cause you will just have to ride that out with no painkillers. I've also been told you really need to stay on it while totally sober for a long time to really break the habit.

Gabapentin is prescribed with it sometimes where I live. That shit will slow your roll and NOT in a fun way, but it makes sleeping easier and isn't xanax. Also Zoloft, but it won't really do shit till you aren't drinking.
Eliza Bedgeford - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 17:33:41 EST Oz9cRT8I No.29873 Reply
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Update for all those alkies detoxing/tapering:

It seems that it can be done in about a week for me, but only because I crashed at a friend's place or he babysat me at mine. You shouldn't be driving or cooking while tapering anyway. New Naltrexone script starts tomorrow (have to be sure I have been totally dry and zero shakes for a couple days). Have been taking 900mg of Gabapentin which helped a lot.

webm unrelated. Don't be that guy.
Samuel Chunderwater - Fri, 18 May 2018 12:23:59 EST 5Vnf/8sL No.29897 Reply
Seriously aa is fucked. I quit booze and put my life together again with medical mj. They wouldn't recommend that. With aa I was suicidal in my parents basement. Medical MJ for a year or two, and I own my condo and work for a large corporation.
Samuel Chunderwater - Fri, 18 May 2018 12:26:44 EST 5Vnf/8sL No.29898 Reply
They say take what you want and leave the rest, but all that religion and repetition infects you over time. You take more than you realize. Leave now

Fuck aa
Jenny Ponnerbure - Tue, 22 May 2018 06:46:46 EST 24QMH6TA No.29903 Reply
This is a fucking terrible idea. Look up the kindling effect.
The Sick Boy method is not designed for alcohol.
Hugh Dombleworth - Tue, 22 May 2018 12:32:27 EST Oz9cRT8I No.29905 Reply
Can confirm. Do not do this or you are at risk of seizure. If you are dead set on detoxing at home with no benzos you fucking better have somebody around with a case of beer and a car to drive you to the hospital. If you were drinking at Winehouse levels, you will need supervision preparing food, taking a shit, taking a shower, etc.
Sophie Fottingfield - Mon, 28 May 2018 23:49:24 EST qF1DcXKz No.29911 Reply
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Yeah. I went to a few meetings after that and i was done. I ended up going to detox and going into an outpatient rehab program with actual classes on how to deal with my issues. I'm pretty pleased so far.
Albert Grimford - Tue, 29 May 2018 16:29:04 EST ChQ2K2S4 No.29912 Reply
I went to one of my groups today and it was totally highjacked by a couple of Christian AAfags. I didn't say anything because they were old. I thought about saying Hail Satan every time they said amen. Apparently they had no idea people go to classes like that to get away from AA. In the end I just complained to the counselor about the oldest, preachiest one and she said she'd talk to him.
Simon Bruddlesog - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 09:24:39 EST hVv54rPs No.29937 Reply
There isn’t much of a trick to quitting alchohol except to not do it but let me just remind you that typically for us people, the alchohol itself is only a symptom of other problems like depression and taking it away won’t be a final solution or fix your mental health stuff, but it is a huge step.

The most important thing for me was not to get too depressed if I had a drink, all of people cave and then feel intensely guilty and decide ‘Fuck it’ and go nuts, if you drink a bit then shrug, remind yourself how hard these drugs are to get off, and get right back to where you were, back to quitting
Beatrice Murdwater - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 04:06:57 EST R+b3jx13 No.29940 Reply
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I guess I just want to tell someone what I am going through and I can't tell anyone else, especially not my mother. God I hate what I'm doing to her. I keep imagining her finding me dead or something. Every time I drink I get dumber and fucking dumber. The last two times I've sniffed compressed air... and drank listerine. What the fuck am I doing. I gotta stop, I don't want to die or go blind or become a fucking vegetable because I somehow thought sniffing compressed air while drunk would be fun.

I'm at 48 hours now. God help me I hope I didn't fuck my brain up beyond saving.
Charles Hibblenure - Sat, 30 Jun 2018 20:46:08 EST kDE2sVDK No.29995 Reply
>The last two times I've sniffed compressed air...
wew lad
Simon Meshmuck - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 18:39:34 EST 4WKLExzE No.30019 Reply
I am the OP of this thread so far I have drank every day of 2018. I wonder if I can ever stop
Clara Nunderstedge - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 00:34:45 EST HqleU20c No.30024 Reply
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Why the fuck is drinking so hard to kick? It seems like every day at the same time I get the urge to go out and get the same old 6 pack of pint pabst's and a 22oz of whatever cheap IPA I can find. It's this weird instinct that just seems to hit me that nothing else will satiate. I've got some benzos to help me wean off the booze, but drinking while on them only makes the drunk better...

Regardless, 2 days sober from the booze but I'm worried that the last howevermany years of poly drug abuse have shown me what drug my body crazes the most; and of course it had to be alcohol.
Basil Bunwell - Wed, 11 Jul 2018 06:58:40 EST PQac9IDl No.30026 Reply
Fuck me, I drank a 5th of whiskey and it's 7am now. There goes the 2 days sober. Worst part is that I can still type legibly and I'm not over a toilet. My liver has seen some shit...

Best of luck to all of you other alkies that are trying to dry out. It's tougher than you figure.
Cornelius Dugglehod - Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:54:30 EST 6FvdO/Lk No.30028 Reply
yikes dude you're on a pretty bad path, especially with the benzos involved with drinking
Clara Pittfield - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 06:21:55 EST 0q7uyVKP No.30058 Reply
If you drink at the same time, things aren't that bad. Or as bad as it could be.

If two days in not drinking, go for 5. Chomp little pieces of benzo if you start feeling weird.

5 days is good, 7 is better. 10 should feel direction.

Keep on keepin on. I havent drank for more like a month. Or who knows.
I mean heavy drinking for won't say how long but a long time and a lot of booze and $$$
Feel better than ever.
Beatrice Hoffingmidge - Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:07:54 EST tlKfe1RT No.30066 Reply
I think it must be bacteria in your gut. They say that shit can influence people's personalities and make them crave certain foods. The alcohol feeds yeast or something that literally mind controls you into craving booze. Try just eating nothing but meat and yogurt and drinking nothing but water and kefir for a month and see if it helps.
Molly Siggleway - Sun, 29 Jul 2018 17:35:44 EST 2X1ismwx No.30068 Reply
it’s difficult because you’ve formed a strong habit with a rewarding feeling. you have to start doing something else before that time comes and the craving kicks in.
Eliza Dridgehall - Sun, 05 Aug 2018 20:31:55 EST FyjPNss8 No.30077 Reply
>I think it must be bacteria in your gut.
Interesting hypothesis. Maybe it plays a minor role. But I think it's obvious most of it is in the brain. Look up the sinclair method.
Jenny Gabberman - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 00:47:19 EST 4WKLExzE No.30093 Reply

it plays a much bigger role than you realize, look into the enteric nervous system aka the "little brain"; also gut flora are being considered by some medical experts to be an actual organ system in and of itself
Henry Pundlebanks - Sat, 18 Aug 2018 11:08:13 EST bTvU4UAH No.30098 Reply
That's a huge thing, recovery was an awful depression until I also fixed my garbage diet.

Seratonin is made in your gut not your brain. Garbage in and you truly feel like garbage.
Phyllis Lightshaw - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 23:31:35 EST oEP0+VWz No.30399 Reply
OP here. I have still failed to eliminate alcohol from my life. However I have succeeded in bringing my drinking down from almost daily, to only 2 or 3 times per week. I also am going to bed earlier than I used to, and drinking only about half as much as I used to. I don't know if I will ever be a truly sober man but I would say I am at least slowing down in my foolish habits.
Hugh Chidgewitch - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 23:08:09 EST JkKXsoLU No.30444 Reply
Here's the thing with giving up alcohol. It's never really possible. In today's world there is more and more choices, more and more people encouraging it, and more and more reasons to drink. What I found to work is at least cutting back. I went to work and do some extra hours. Sucks. But it kept me away for an extra time. Then I was asking to be scheduled early morning. That way after long nights I had no time so I could just sleep to wake up and make it to work. Without work you can't do it anyway. So worst part is letting your boss know. Let him know why you want schedules like that. He may help. Then go out for a drink after a shitty week. Do it again and repeat. After a month of work like that. I was at a point that I didn't want alcohol because I craved sleep more. I eventually evened out my schedule. And was still not drinking. And when I did. I had cut back. Realized I was saving about 300-400 extra a month by cutting back as much. It's small steps. I'm sitting here with a beer in hand at a bar typing this. But for as much as I cut back. My bar bill is 9 bucks and I'm getting buzzed. So cheaper it becomes overall. You may never stop. That's okay. Ask someone to give up coffee for a month. They would be able to. It's socially acceptable. That's the hard part of alcohol. Little steps my friend. Little steps.
Isabella Gamblepodging - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 15:32:34 EST rl4uHNmE No.30445 Reply
This actually makes a lot of sense! Personally I dont struggle with alcohol - Opi's are my problem, but I've always felt that in today's society - quitting alcohol completely and then staying sober thereafter must be THE biggest challenge out of all substances, because its everywhere! And like you said - its 'socially acceptable' to drink, but for me - shooting/smoking/snorting Heroin is not (thank god) and that means once I quit, I have society to help keep me accountable. I wish you all the best in your journey - sounds like you've already got a good handle on it so well done!
Lillian Brambleline - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:59:49 EST qcYw9UQY No.30448 Reply
I'd argue that it is indeed possible to reset your brain's craving for alcohol through an intense shroom/lsd trip, though it's not a surefire way. Drinking correlates to my underlying psychological problems, but it is easier to sort through them with lessened cravings.
Charles Crullymet - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 16:03:56 EST qcYw9UQY No.30460 Reply
Going on two months without alcohol and I feel much better. The hard part is that my brain's conditioning got reset from an heroic shroom dose and I lost cravings for nearly everything.

I found that alcohol was tied to other activities more than the act of drinking itself. Cravings largely stemmed from having an empty stomach or playing a certain game. Though I don't have desire to drink anymore, I can correlate the addiction to other stuff.
Alice Sinkinworth - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 22:38:18 EST oEP0+VWz No.30467 Reply
OP here, gonna try to avoid booze for the rest of July, so far I have made it 1 night
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:26:25 EST v6wYqrwz No.30476 Reply
That's a step forward in the right direction. I don't drink but there's plenty of alternatives to drinking alcohol. What substitutes to alcohol have you started to drink instead? For instance, while I don't drink, I do drink soda in moderation (Cheerwine is my fave) but I also like lemonade, juice (orange and cranberry), and water. You can also focus on enjoying certain activities that will take your mind off of the sorts of distractions and inhibitions that alcohol has affected your life so you stay on that path of sobriety.
Cornelius Blenkinchock - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 06:48:12 EST F4rLtoGy No.30477 Reply
It only takes a moment to suddenly think alcohol, then just buy some. If one binges that can be a week, however long. But the same moment one can back out and say, I can live another day without drinking. I did it yesterday. The day before. Surely will not miss out on anything by deciding to drink just by thinking about it.
Frederick Peppershaw - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:38:46 EST oEP0+VWz No.30510 Reply

well July didn't go so great overall, but I haven't drank in like the past 10 days so that's been pretty good. going out to have some drinks momentarily.

this might sound gay, but when i know i am going to struggle with alcohol on a night, i trick my brain by hijacking my booze routine. i go down to the local gas station where i usually get booze, but instead i get a coffee/hot chocolate mixed 50/50 and a little snack or a sandwich. the hot chocolate helps with a little of the sugar cravings, and i like that drink, so it's like a happy little reward for not drinking booze. it works surprisingly well.
Frederick Buzzhall - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 05:55:25 EST WCBgob4/ No.30521 Reply
>but when i know i am going to struggle with alcohol on a night, i trick my brain
>by hijacking my booze routine. i go down to the local gas station where i
>usually get booze, but instead i get a coffee/hot chocolate mixed 50/50 and
>a little snack or a sandwich.

That is a perfect way to change your routine, working it into another working routine.
Will go to a liquor store and think, I didn't drink last night, surely I can live another night without. Or when I usually get alcohol just by default, even late, and just think,
if I wait another hour, it will be too late to get some. Wake up in the AM and maybe think, that was definately a good move by not buying.
Walter Shakegold - Mon, 25 Nov 2019 18:19:37 EST oEP0+VWz No.30730 Reply
OP here. I have reached a more manageable level of alcoholism. These days I have 2 or 3 shots in the evening, about 4 days a week. That's it. I think I'm doing better.
Simon Buddleditch - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 17:29:14 EST 31xt0VI5 No.30732 Reply
bump cause OP is just lying to himself now. Hes probably drunk as piss
David Pirringhug - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 21:25:01 EST Mc1D68ku No.30766 Reply
When I got clean and sober I went to Alcoholics Anonymous. Nothing like being around a bunch of people that are just as fucked in the head as you are.

Lots of coffee, cigarettes, i've been dry for over a year now.

I was the kind of alcoholic that would drink mouthwash if I couldn't get liquor. It was bad.
Nicholas Billinglock - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 21:40:37 EST E1oWrrWz No.30783 Reply
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Good luck man, starting today myself. Fucked up my health and life for waaay too long so I'm going for it. Gonna fucking suck being dry on new years but to hell with it.
Cyril Ponnerwill - Thu, 26 Dec 2019 10:37:21 EST 4Kgw+W6U No.30784 Reply
Good job man. It's not a hardship to not drink.

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