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- Thu, 16 May 2019 18:33:34 EST mYIVlqFO No.30385
File: 1558046014272.jpg -(35784B / 34.95KB, 528x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How do I get cleaned?
Okay. I do lot of drugs. Not like in a totally self destructive way, but I tend to get lazy and then sit around and then do drugs to not go insane just sitting around, and then I start doing drugs to put up with the drugs that I did earlier. It's stupid. Mostly a bad habit. I just need a bit of help really. Like an AA sponsor that I can call and talk to when I crave. I just need to break the cycle for like a week. How do I do that? How do I get an AA/NA sponsor? How do I get help? I don't know why but I'm really bad at this it's like a curse I don't know what to do
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Walter Punnerwill - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:31:30 EST APb+aqa8 No.30389 Reply
>>30385
If youre going the AA route the best way is to search online for local meetings and just put yourself out there.and meet people. Doing that you'll eventually find a sponser or someone who knows a person ready to sponser. Good luck.
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Jarvis Fankinfut - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:13:51 EST YaY2oWWS No.30480 Reply
>>30385
AA is a cult, all you really need is people who support you. ask your friends for help.
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Phyllis Dringerstock - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 22:02:19 EST ueBSKLxk No.30490 Reply
>>30385
AA is seriously a cult. Don't do it. Please. Yes, it works for some people. So does scientology.

This is better, evidence-based and not a cult: https://www.smartrecovery.org/alcohol-abuse/

> I just need to break the cycle for like a week.
Bad news, buddy: That's usually not how it works. Addiction usually takes a looong time to get over, or it's a lifelong thing.

However, if you go to AA/NA they'll tell you a bunch of dogmatic shit that has no basis in reality.

What kinda drugs do you do?
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Jack Crundlekat - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 05:20:45 EST m3QXNeGX No.30499 Reply
>>30490
AA a cult. I can buy that. The sayings, if not said already. One is, if you have one foot in the past and one in the future you are pissing on today. So basically you are going nowhere, if you don't recognize your past, which it says to do, by apologozing those you have possibly harmed in the past, which at times cannot really be done.

Sorry already very drunken person, for that time I hit you when you did whatever that was way out of line. Explanation, there is none. How does one apologize for
some other drunks antics, which you were as bad. One I could say is family friends who do not drink, where you were out of line. No active sponsor, longtime
advocate of 30 in 30, group so-called moderator or leader I have ever listened to could explain apologizing to somebody who is just as much an ass or even more than they ever were and make 'amends.'

In all, it is just a circle of nothing. where people bicker like drunks over simple and quite straightforward meaningful statements as being wrong. Higher class meetings are obviously different than the hardcore idiot groups that at least one out of a few has woken up with a black eye at least a few times.

Medicaid will or should pay for most alcohol treatment, in patient outpatient. Medical detoxes as well in most states. Psychiatry, treatment centers that specialize with drug alcohol abuse.
Which are likely best bet for privacy.

There are county/state run places, but your confidentiality is maybe not so confidential. So especially county state places, especially. Tread lightly on you usage and past details.

Private run places may ask about drug usage and possible criminal records. They may say you don't have to answer these. So tread lightly and not go overboard and spill your life story until you feel you have a trust relationship. The if wanted, if you think it helps get a bit deeper.

If questions seem very awkward in nature in the scope of things. Do keep thinking.

If mostly jobless, paid under the table. Your should qualify for medicaid. If you do not have medicaid, regardless, do get it. Like call tomorrow. Today. If ever have an accident, a hospital
may charge $1000s for at times doing basically nothing. If wanted drugs that help with alcohol opiate usage can be prescribed and a co-pay is like two bucks. So seek a primary care Dr, and a specialist psychiatrists, addiction center and get things rolling.

As the Ziggy Marly tune goes;
Tomorrow will never come
Tomorrow is never here
So don't you put off what we can do right now
'Cause tomorrow will never appear

today
today

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So don't you take the negative they're sending
Never you pat from this positive something
Share the joy my love is giving
So sweet divine in tune with mine, life worth living

today
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David Suckleridge - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:44:29 EST rl4uHNmE No.30506 Reply
>>30499
I think I'm understanding what you were getting at? There was some good advice in that - but it sort of looks like you had a mind-dump moment whilst amped up on stims or something? It reads very 'speedy' and all...Anyway anyone is welcome here - this board is dead as fuck! We need more people inputting in this place for sure!! For me - I've never done the AA /NA thing, but I do go to a group recovery programme which I find very helpful. Just working through your own shit and listening to others with similar experiences makes me feel like I'm not just this one freak. It makes you realise so many people from different backgrounds deal with substance abuse and addiction. Theres a comfort I take from that - the whole 'you are not alone' vibe...
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Cedric Brundleshaw - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:39:58 EST RTcDtcVf No.30507 Reply
>>30506
12 steps, one is making amends to people you have harmed when you were drinking. When possible. The step is basically unachievable. Some people don't want top see you or you may not want to see them. So the cult as is said, many of the long-timers will say, well you cannot get past this step, you did not make enough effort.

If one says, I finished this (certain) step, they may get totally dumped on. Hearing, no you didn't. Your lying to us and you are lying to yourself, you have not acquired that step. Where it would seem that the person felt comfortable sharing his feelings of accomplishment.

This may turn into nothing but just reaming on the person for big part of the meeting.

My guess leaving the person to just go, screw it, gonna buy a bottle.

Where a person gets highly praised saying they 'relapsed and drank for days and this was their first meeting sense.

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