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MXE by Charles Popperhood - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 15:42:06 EST ID:eTAxU2iP No.353444 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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is it still available for pruchase on the internet for the USA
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Betsy Bommleham - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:08:17 EST ID:yj5YLg+X No.353652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353649
I was so confused for a minute I thought you meant it turns blood the color red.
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Phoebe Donderbury - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:26:06 EST ID:hEgPNxO4 No.353660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>353596
>I've heard rumors of India making some soon
Yeah like that'll ever happen. Did you know MXE still isn't even scheduled in America? Why aren't Americans making MXE?!
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Archie Turveylock - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:04:17 EST ID:V6GtN1XI No.353666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353660
Something about the cost of production being too high and the profit margins too low or some shit.
Which I think is bullshit. They could charge whatever and people would still buy it. Just look at dck for fucks sake the price has skyrocketed as it's become more popular. I used to be able to get 2 grams for 60 bucks and now you're lucky if you find 1 gram for 50 or less.
Damn chineses need to ramp up their clandestine chemical labs.
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James Turveyman - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:34:01 EST ID:wL479jFq No.353669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Why aren't Americans making MXE?!
rest in peace
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Caroline Honeygold - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:41:48 EST ID:F/4yVHRx No.353710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353660
fuck off avatarfag


HQ KETAMEEN by Cedric Semmlehall - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:58:59 EST ID:EOW95XHr No.353682 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My buddy is gonna have a gram of this stuff and im going to do some with him and 1 other. We have never tried it but im going to aim for a 'k-hole' experience. Only dissos ive tried are mxe and dxm. How much k will do? I plan on railing one big gorilla thumb of that shit with my nose but if there is a better way to take it (besides banging it with a needle or bootybampn it) i will do it. Also are there any particularly fun activites to do while high? What are the visuals like? Do you see like geometric patterns and shit or is it much different than tripping balls with like acid? On mxe i didnt do one big dose but i did my fair share of re-dosing and basically i felt pretty euphoric with a hint of disorientation and having to take a leak but unable to move urine from my blatter. Any input would be awesome.

Basically describe the khole experience.
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Lydia Goodbanks - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:41:50 EST ID:BKDcy69G No.353703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am a 130lbs male and insufflated 150mgs of S-isomer ketamine earlier today, which I was pretty sure would put me in a k-hole. It did not, but I was really fucked up. Moving was really hard and I was basically at the cusp of the hole. If I got up and actually measured out another 25mg or so I probably would have holed. Next time I plan on doing more, maybe right now.

Ketamine without holing was nothing special, it kind of made me feel nauseous unless I was just laying down and closing my eyes or staring at the TV or something. Then it felt sort of "warm" and inviting and nice, but I had no visuals or anything so I find that taking that Ket was just wasted. Basically like everyone says, when you're not k-holing it's like trippy alcohol (and I personally did not really enjoy that). But I wanna k-hole and see what it's like so sorry I don't have that answer for you yet.
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Jenny Beddleson - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 02:14:23 EST ID:TJiFc97H No.353705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353703
you should weigh and cut up your lines before you start railing them so you can redose if you need to in a dissociated stupor.
Also it becomes hard to keep track of the dose and lines so I like to do intervals that are easy to add while disoriented like 25mg or 50mg
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Graham Mattingneck - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 07:49:12 EST ID:ChYUel+i No.353707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353682
>any particularly fun activites to do while high?
lie down in darkness with quiet chillout music, k holing is an oobe after all.

I do it in 70-100mg increments, redosing whenever I feel like I'm starting to sober up, ~300mg total for maybe an hour of k holing.

Combining with a psy increases the intensity for a smaller dose. Eg on an acid comedown, cut those doses in half and get twice the time holing. Holing on a psy is less comfy than a straight k hole, more like a wild beast you need to tame. Worth it though ime.
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Phineas Cendlewell - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:58:52 EST ID:1s9N/SVb No.353708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Didnt read all these tl;dr posts but the only advice i got is if youre like me, coming down off high doses of ket gives you baaad nausea, like severe motion sickness from being in your own body during the comedown. Its usually a half hour period where you sense of balance is returning and any movement will trigger intense motion sickness. If you experience this dont fret amd just try remain as still as possible, my friends would find ot strange but id have to sit completely motionless in silence for 30-60 mins after a serious k hole to shake that brutal nausea. So if you feel nauseous on the comedown just lay/sit down and try not to move a muscle as your senses go back to normal. Good luck, k is fucking awesome!
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Caroline Honeygold - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:39:58 EST ID:F/4yVHRx No.353709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353707
LSD and ketamine are a cruel combo in high doses. I usually lose my sense of self entirely pretty much instantly and shit gets straight weird. I'll usually find myself in some sort of hellish underworld or something.
Totally worth it/10


ɳεω 尺ØŁŁ ɬɧཞɛąɖ by Basil Droddlelock - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:38:29 EST ID:n+9WxiwR No.352812 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Old one hit bump limit. You know the drill.

Odd dose that shit
Even maybe not
Zero re-roll
Dubs take double/hole dose
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Cedric Wuttingforth - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:52:25 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.353681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>352812
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John Wendlewill - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 22:25:53 EST ID:XuHavIjZ No.353701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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God Wills It
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Ian Blythehood - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:15:24 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.353702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>353681
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Lydia Goodbanks - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 00:13:00 EST ID:BKDcy69G No.353704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Already holed today, can I do it again? Literally first time with Ketamine
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Sophie Pumblelare - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 06:10:47 EST ID:ElaDuSpy No.353706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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roll


BWD by Nicholas Savingdock - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:05:55 EST ID:FCsxyGwb No.353013 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Oh shit! Old one stopped bumping. Y'all better whip out your baggies of internet powder or crack open that bottle of syrup, cause it's /dis/ time again.

Can I get a 1 minute ban, a party mode and an AMEN?!?
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Nicholas Fungerkat - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 02:37:48 EST ID:B6533SGF No.353689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
450mg dxm. Probably a 2nd plat but time will tell.
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Emma Duckhood - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 03:34:14 EST ID:F5DraC9B No.353690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353670
my 10g's will be here in 2 days. fuck boofin nasal works wonders
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Hedda Munderlotch - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:25:58 EST ID:GRcBy9lY No.353692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>353690

Have you ever tried boofin' it? It's definitely better.

bump cuz i just did that with 80mg homie
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Frederick Pudgehidging - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:02:20 EST ID:jCabIawJ No.353696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353692
wat is boofin m8?
I always found oral dosing best for DcK besides of course IM.
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Lillian Bodgewell - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:57:35 EST ID:3+XEfyrz No.353697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
preemptive bump for an undecided amount of dxm that I'm about to go get
I'll be taking gels if Dollar Tree has any but if not it's going to just be hbr since I have to work
I planned on buying all of the gels from Dollar Tree but they aren't consistent anymore at the two stores here
who knows maybe I'll throw a small generic delsym in there
I haven't tripped as much recently, maybe once or twice in the past couple months so this should be pretty good
praying to the gelder gods before my departure


Repetive music for dissociative trip by Edwin Fandleford - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 14:32:13 EST ID:LMzxO6i6 No.353655 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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dck specifically
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Jack Hambleridge - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:32:53 EST ID:r2qfKtFx No.353676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkIpddogl_Y
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Nell Bidgeworth - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:35:40 EST ID:3SOt4FHT No.353677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
find a beghain techno mix
there's plenty on youtube
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Martin Dombledidge - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:32:53 EST ID:jCabIawJ No.353686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WELLLL right now Endtroducing..... by DJ Shadow is p dope on 3-meow-pcp

first listen of this album too.
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Martin Dombledidge - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:07:59 EST ID:jCabIawJ No.353687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>353686
take that back. that album would be better on lsd or something. im coming up more so idk switching to anco now. the new album meeting of the waters
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Shit Gorringgold - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:49:49 EST ID:3+XEfyrz No.353694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Garden of Delete and Memory Vague by Oneohtrix Point Never


Bad DXM experience by Emma Daddlegold - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:12:06 EST ID:uDv6123u No.353683 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've wanted to try dissos for some time now, I've done a lot of different psychs (LSD, LSA, mescaline, shrooms, 25i) and I've smoked salvia, so I think I have a decent amount of experience.

That said, I tried 354 mgs of DXM and did NOT have a good time. Felt nauseous for most of it, kinda like motion sickness, and had extreme emotional swings. I went from crying my eyes out to feeling absolute euphoria to seething with rage in the span of about a minute.

Is this normal? I'm still open to trying things like ket and pcp, but if it's as similar as what I felt on DXM I'm really reluctant to pursue it. There was some stuff about it that was fun and novel but by and large I'm really unlikely to do DXM again.
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Nicholas Fungerkat - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:09:00 EST ID:B6533SGF No.353688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd avoid pcp if that was your experience dxm. Try ketamine or deschloroketamine, very chill and sedating.
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Cedric Wuttingforth - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:19:45 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.353691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353683
Nausea and motion sickness are natural. Try taking it by ingesting gel caps over a longer period of time to avoid nausea. Smoke weed to potentiate the DXM and then come back and tell me what you think. You cannot judge DXM without smoking weed on it and experiencing the synergy, not to mention that the weed will help with nausea.

Emotional mood swings are a result of your mind being in an altered state. Dissociatives can be very much like psychedelics in amplifying the mood you may be experiencing.

Also if you can handle the mindfucks of psychedelics then taking dissociatives is a cakewalk.

Get around the nausea from DXM and you will find a lifelong partner that will love you dearly.

I wouldn't knock it when all you've done is sit in the waiting room.
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Nicholas Buzzman - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:18:29 EST ID:DQLqe173 No.353693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Anyone ever been abducted by aliens whilst high on DXM?

>Take 1g of DXM
>40 minutes later become real spaced out, time moves slowly
>Make my way downstairs in complete darkness
>Hold onto stairs as much as I can but end up falling down due to vertigo / dissociation. Hit my head. End up getting up.
>Begin falling into a hole, having no physical presence, not being able to feel anything. This makes me fall down again and hit my head again.
>In vertigo, I was greeted by aliens who cut my tonsil into two pieces whilst they listened to 'Damn It Feels To Be a Gangsta'
>Now 24 hours later and an emergency hospital visit, my tonsils feel like they're cut into two and have two painful bumps on my head

I would like to experience this again, this time with a sedative, the lights on, and preferably in bed.


First trip in a while by Phineas Pickway - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:51:27 EST ID:PUDF/Q2c No.353056 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Haven't robotripped in 28 days. Gonna drink 1 and a half bottles of grape Delsym 5 oz bottles
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Wesley Wesslewater - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:15:27 EST ID:EzInmnCx No.353201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353079
underage I bet. where I live you have to be 18 buy pharmaceuticals so I'd hide a box of syrup under a case of soda

woah I opened this and the post above was written up on the app I use. crazy. I might've written it when I was blacked out.
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Cyril Chabblenut - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:37:51 EST ID:MMygKdrQ No.353204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353201
haha classic, nb
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Alice Bivinglotch - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 22:18:24 EST ID:O/oAXBaV No.353254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353078
I got caught shoplifting shades and a watch when I was 18. I got arrested but released on a promise to appear. I was so distraught on the walk home that I thought it would be a great idea to shoplift two large bottles of Robo. The last thing I remember from that night was chugging the second bottle an unknown amount of time after I had already finished the first. Next thing I know, there's a knock on my door in the morning. I looked around and my room (boarding house, everything I had in the world was in that room) was trashed. A normal person probably would have thought the cops were at the door coming to pick them up for shoplifting right after getting charged with shoplifting, but I had no memory of anything the night before. Luckily, it was actually a younger kid I knew who got kicked out that night. I let him stay and eventually my actual friends came in. I didn't even tell them anything until about a week after. We spent the day smoking bongs and watching movies and my friend eventually looked over at me to say that I legit looked like I was dead. I was just sitting all wide eyed on my bed with my head leaning back on the wall. I ended up afterglowing for three whole days.

I wouldn't say I'm proud but I don't regret any of this either.
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John Bennerhall - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:52:34 EST ID:lp0OvtZU No.353672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>353201
I wrote OP. I actually drank the other 1 and a half bottles. It was crazy. I literally was at court this morning and they rescheduled me. I am 18. I just had no money and wanted to get high. I hadn't shoplifted in so long and used to steal 14 bottles every other day in 2015. I guess I'm just not as slick anymore.
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Cedric Wuttingforth - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:55 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.353680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353672
>used to steal 14 bottles every other day in 2015.

You are what is killing /dis/


Keeping the magic by Ian Fankinlack - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:09:45 EST ID:V05YcMo+ No.352839 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What is the best way to stop disso's from losing their magic?

Also lets say that for example you have abused 3-meo-pcp so it is no longer enjoyable, would this effect carry over to other disassociatives?
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Fucking Blonderlet - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 09:54:50 EST ID:ekIzIPuq No.353646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>352935
How do you guys ritualize your trips?
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Molly Fazzlewock - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 16:15:20 EST ID:YOoW1Bmf No.353650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353646
make it a spiritual recovery thing. a mental recovery. mental vacation. a rare occurance. it is a ritual. every month or so you take your trip. make it something you work hard for. dont steal the dxm, earn it through hard work for money. dont chug the dxm and purge and trip out, no, consume it with heart and hold it down in your gut so every little bit has a chance to get its effects in. its not just about the trip man, its about the feeling, the love, the passion, the escape, the involvement. dont make this a regular escape, make it a something more. make it something you put your heart and soul into and take time to appreciate.
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Matilda Herringdale - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:04:49 EST ID:R+zc8ONc No.353651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353650
yeah this
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Cyril Shittingcocke - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 01:45:05 EST ID:WAkYssDf No.353668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>353553

Managing? Sure. I'm 27. I'm alive. I have a family and we are all close and love one another. My mind is sharper than ever because I was actually able to find the motivation to discover the roots of my depression and anxiety I suffered from for years through DXM as of last year. My body feels fine. My personality is back to being how it was before depression and anxiety. I may be without a job and rarely have money to buy things, but that's OK. I'm a minimalist. I have everything I need already, and I don't desire or require much for happiness. If I really need or want something, I'll find a way to acquire it. I can make money when needed.

I'm not jobless and without money because of DXM, though. I just haven't wanted a job since quitting my last one in 2015 after working it for 6 years, and I lost my car in 2013 also, so.. I don't have a social life anymore either, as my circle of friends faded and grew apart around age 22. I'm an introvert, though.. so I'm fine with spending my time at home doing mundane things. I'm happy with that. I still get out occasionally, and all of those people are the same way to extents. So, it's fine. They get it. And yes, I live with my folks and younger brother, but I don't mind. They don't either. We're all antisocial, simple country folk. I've no reason or desire to move away from my family, and they don't want me to either. This town and this land that we own is home. An apartment in a city full of noise is not. Me and my family are just the kind of family that remain close together, even when we're distancing ourselves.

My health? It's fine. I've gotten checkups yearly, and aside from a vitamin D deficiency once last year, I've been fine. My brain doesn't feel damaged at all. I take all the vitamins and supplements I need to give back to my body what I may take away from it while tripping, too. I have even worked on cleansing my pineal gland for the past 2 years not so much just for spirituality, but just for balance and clarity of mind.. as that is one of it's functions. I eat healthy enough. My body feels fine. As for my usage, I started using it again las…
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Shit Gorringgold - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:54:26 EST ID:3+XEfyrz No.353695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353641
seeing stuff like this really makes me glad I got the right bottle and drank all of it the first time I tried it. I probably weighed the same amount as that guy, I was pretty fucked up and I had plenty of experience psys at that point already


hhhheeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy by John Darringstun - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:43:49 EST ID:VOTrKn5A No.353580 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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haven't dissed since 2015 (I'm 26), to all you skeptics: the magic comes back. I am on 450MG of robogels + dank weed and it feels just like those first times
feel like the lava thing inside of the lava lamp
feel like I'm being gently smushed by a delicate vibration
sunlight and plants and clouds my friends
sooooooo nice
off to watch a fan edited version of the hobbit and smoke all the weed on this sunny day on the porch
sending SLAYER in your general direction friends
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Matilda Herringdale - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:18:36 EST ID:R+zc8ONc No.353635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353627
I did follow the plat rule mostly.
What does dexxing feel like for you now?
I'd describe the "magic" as the combination of the music enhancement, mental clarity / ego loss, the trance state, and the ability to see visions / 'hyperspace', dextroverse, whatever it's called. And every trip felt unique, even though the body load felt familiar.
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Matilda Herringdale - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:30:58 EST ID:R+zc8ONc No.353636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353633
I have a therapist but I'm not a therapist yet. My therapist would never say anything like what that poster said.
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Priscilla Brepperchock - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:37:35 EST ID:XDYs6e5u No.353637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353636

I'm saying a universal thing. At times we all act like this unaffected person, free of emotion and clear in vision and we learn over time that there is a lot more grit to life. Maybe when your old and all that's left is to watch your grandchildren grow up, then it is a real person within you, until then it is fake and it is obvious.

I was like this for years. It was very hard to realize what I was hiding. I was hiding from muh feels. but I'm done I think the dxm is kicking in.
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Priscilla Brepperchock - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:40:12 EST ID:XDYs6e5u No.353638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353637

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSvOTw8UH6s

how you feel on both sides of the unaffected fake person
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Basil Duckville - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 04:19:52 EST ID:RbOwN/w0 No.353644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>353635
Well 1st play doses feel like a serotonin boost, mood lift basically.
If I try to do a 3rd plat dose all at once I just end feeling emotionally cold and I can only get decent CEVs at the peak if I keep my eyes closed for a very long period, which is easy on dxm, buts it never satisfies expectations and i barely get any feeling of floating through the dextroverse as my body shifts and morphs in impossible ways, which was my favorite part of dxm. So its almost always disappointing to dose all at once.
Music enhancement is still there at any plat, but the sounds dont seem wider or flangy like they use to.

The only real way to emulate the magic is to slow dose a heavy 3rd plat dose, at least 900mg but less than 1200mg is usually lackluster. Start with about 150mg, than dose 60 to 120mg every 20-30 mins and by the end I'm finally in dextroverse territory.

The downside is, the afterglow of heavy trips doesn't feel all that great, I just feel zombie brained the next day.
1st Plat doses still give an enjoyable afterglow that is mostly just a nice antidepressant feeling.

The worst thing about losing the magic in my experience is I no longer get the feeling that I'm living the movies I watch, no matter how high of a dose I do. DXM use to always break the 4th wall for movies, even if the movie made no attempt to do so for the viewer. Basically dxm barely helps immerse me into films anymore and it's the worst because it still causes more difficulty with following the plot without making that fact ignorable with increased immersion.

Personally because ive lost the magic when I do dex I'll go on about week long binges trying to achieve sigma, which always feel just of reach and wrecks my tolerance even more. Probably just need to take larger doses, but its difficult when I need at least 3 bottles of any form of dex each day to even sustain it.

TL;DR: Lost magic means lost immersion in visuals, music and movies, so if you still have it don't abuse it or else you'll lose it.


DSK trip - preparation by Sophie Cloddlecocke - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:21:43 EST ID:Bth8D1uM No.353624 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How one prepare himself to dissociative trip? I am asking mostly for literature, but you could also post some mind-expanding films, vidya or music. Now i am at reading Descartes, learning french and chemistry. I havent dissed for a good year and best i ever got was DXM. I want that trip to be really profound, demigod mind masturbation shit


Dis Rap Thread by Cedric Snodshit - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:44:40 EST ID:5MSM4AZg No.353616 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Grant Gustin this weathr? that's really quite grand

chique shrieking macaw,

when I mix my mana with mantra, you're doomed to fail
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Cedric Nangershit - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:38:19 EST ID:c877Fw88 No.353617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353616
  1. What?
  2. No.
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Albert Clayhall - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:22:00 EST ID:vaxnZWbV No.353618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Should OP get automatically underage banned for making this thread? Tune in next time to find out
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Isabella Worthinglock - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:21:33 EST ID:CjcWA6wc No.353630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It doesn't necessarily have to do with being underage. I usually find rap threads cringey when sober, but I've posted quite a few /dis/ raps myself while under the influence. These drugs often make me think in rhyme or rap if I let my mind wander.
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Nell Suvingshit - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 04:57:24 EST ID:hL1U4dg0 No.353645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353630
There's nothing in this thread that even slightly rhymes. Anyone who posts this shit should be IP banned tbh.


Valerian Root and DXM by James Snodfield - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:09:35 EST ID:s/LsdI2k No.353588 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've seen people post about this here and there, but I don't think it can be overstated. At larger doses it inhibits CYP3A4 and in general the way it alters the trip is pretty nice. It makes you a little bit more lucid but pronounces the physical dissociative effects. It does tend to dampen some of the mania (there's not a ton of mania anyway so whatever), overall it just makes things a lot more chill.

Of course, the capsules you find in stores do fuck all but make you feel a bit weird. You need to get some valerian tincture off of amazon or something. I think it adds to the experience quite a bit. The amount I take is usually 2 or 3 pipettes full and going off the back, an full pipette is 1000mg. Anyone else tried this out?
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Nathaniel Sumbletutch - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:12:57 EST ID:FCsxyGwb No.353594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Valerian is indeed an awesome addition to a potentiator stack. I used the caps at first but I found they were adding to the nausea. At some point I got unground, dried Valerian from an herbalist. I would smoke it on the come-up mixed with Bergamot, which is also a really good CYP3A4 inhibitor (as well as weed and tobacco because I smoke those anyway). I can't tell you how much I was smoking, but no more than what would fit in a king size joint or 2.

I pretty much exclusively use poly now, so I can't say how it would work with HBr. But with polystirex I would smoke the big mix spliff around t+1:00 then maybe another one around t+2:00 depending on how nauseous I felt (the Valerian still seemed to make it worse, but not as much as taking it orally). IME it would rapidly catalyze the come-up in addition to amplifying/improving effects.

But also seriously Bergamot is fucking awesome too. Y'all should try that too.
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George Shittingfuck - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:04:30 EST ID:3UZoz9+Q No.353595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353588

Valerian root seems to be poorly studied, there isn't even consensus on whether it's effective for insomnia, the purpose for which it is usually marketed (EMA only went so far as to say that it can be used as a mild sleep aid, which is not very concrete a claim). I once had a temporary heart arrhythmia after taking pharmaceutic (not supermarket) valerian root for a few days in increasingly higher dosages (topping out at 5 capsules) in the morning (went to the doctor and all, blood pressure device called me an error 6 times in a row, very sure that this is what happened). This is in fact known to occur rarely. Needless to say, that is bad news regarding usage with DXM.

Take this as you want just putting it out there
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Jenny Sebberlodge - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 12:19:14 EST ID:WAkYssDf No.353601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love Valerian Root. Chamomile and Sleepytime Tea's are great, too.

I often take them alongside DXM, and I agree.. it really tunes down the mania. For instance, the other day I tripped on 400mg around 12AM, and then decided I would dose 300mg at 9AM, because I didn't have shit to do and was still wide awake. I was feeling alright so I decided what the hell.. and then dosed again at 11:30AM.

The sleep deprivation and redosing was fantastic at first. I felt melted into the couch while watching Cowboy Bebop, but around 2PM I began to feel super fucked up and had a minor psychotic break.. I was hearing auditory hallucinations, seeing hidden messages in random shit, and piecing together events over the week that were signs that I was going to die right then and there. I felt like my blood flow and heart had stopped, and kept having to remind myself to breath deeper, as I was breathing shallow and feeling like my brain wasn't getting enough oxygen.. A few times I literally felt my brain "zapping" back to life when I'd concentrate on breathing heavy, which was followed by a full body numb, fuzzy sensation. I was feeling super confused and panicked a bit, as I rarely get that dissociated. I was also unable to fall asleep, and was only able to fall into false dreams that I'd wake up panicking from. I was convinced that I'd tripped one too many times and had finally went schizo. Everything seemed threatening, dark, and negative. I'd made a big mistake, which I should have learned my lesson from before when something similar had happened... but you know.. Drugs can lead to bad decisions..

So, anyways.. I stumbled into the kitchen, made a tea, popped some valerian, and finally was able to chill out and fall asleep around 7. I should have did it earlier, but I was just too fucking confused and focused on breathing.. It was all fixed within like 20 minutes. I really don't recommend tripping on little sleep, and if you do trip without any.. do not redose.


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