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- Mon, 20 Jan 2020 11:10:15 EST s/XCG9DO No.370426
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Extracting dxm from a 12 pack of robocough tonight

theres 5.4 grams of dxm total in this pack and taking some loss into account I’ll probably have 5 grams for me and my girlfriend. Ive extracted the powder from a single robocough once before and i must say the powder is still kinda gross. How would you guys recommend taking the powder? And also maybe loosing less dxm in the extraction process? I have some blunt tip syringes for carefully removing the dxm from the gross shit floating at the bottom. Uhhhh yeah
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Shitting Sepperway - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:48:45 EST HIAUveH8 No.370436 Reply
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What kind of extraction are you using? Do you take it to acid at the end or just use freebase?

For the freebase powder, you'll honestly want to ingest it with a shot of robosyrup. The syrup has PEG and other ingredients to help your body absorb the DXM. Freebase DXM powder is really hard to digest on its own, and the trips are strange as a result (strange as in less intense).

If you take it to DXM Hcl (acid), then that should be easier to absord.

Also you should know DXM powder is crazy bitter. No tips from me on that front.
Rebecca Pullerhall - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:41:19 EST S4ou/oTm No.370437 Reply
Im using the lemon and ammonia method (though i replaced lemon juice with citric acid) I wont pretend to understand how it works beyond the instructions though. Also idk what you mean by robosyrup. Are you saying to suck it up and down the robocough? Cause thats not an option anymore, i swore off that nasty shit and plan to stick to it.
Graham Nattingfield - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:58:42 EST 5K+eiixO No.370438 Reply
I think this is pointless. Its already so condensed why go through the trouble? Plus robocough has more PEG than any other source, if you extract it I assume the PEG gets separated.


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- Wed, 19 Jun 2019 21:06:15 EST p378vNxp No.367056
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No matter if your an underage dxm pleb or an RC Everyone is welcome here.
Except for maybe Ssdoctor...

Join on June 25th for a trip to madness.
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Dextrolord - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 21:11:41 EST 1tpnrEB8 No.370432 Reply
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Feels good to be back boys and girls! Having ketamine again is like coming home after a long trip. I'll keep the aether updated on any dissventures I get into!
8 - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 23:17:38 EST BVHpQuGy No.370433 Reply
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Thanks ultimately...

In the beginning of my adventure...
I was but a youth eighteen in the year 2010...
but then things got dark scary and hectic...

Finally things are blooming...

Finally................I realize what I was afraid of..............all those years ago.

Early in college, I realized that classes and education were "just not for me" and I chose to do drugs instead. You can imagine how this story turns out. I end up working at a Coffee shop that starts with D.
However, this version of myself, I am rather pleased with. For you see, I consider myself a unique individual for some particular reason.

We move towards what we desire most. Subconsciously consciously, eventually, but ultimately everyone was correct.

Let Christ be our shadow, following us wherever we go.

Let Buddha be our state of mind, always suffering and swaying.

Let Anonymity take care of the rest.

Remember your CBA's.



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3-MEO-2'-OXO-PCPr, AKA Methoxpropylamine, MXPr just hit the market

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- Sat, 05 Oct 2019 11:09:50 EST 5Dag7N+G No.369042
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I've got a fair bit of good news for my fellow /dis/sociates, a trusted EU vendor just put up a listing for MXPr, the long awaited MXE analogue, and orders should be going out fairly soon, a few people on (r)eddit have already placed orders for it and a couple people have received samples and have already posted trip reports.

I'm beyond stoked, the reports so far are very promising, very similar potency to MXE, duration is very similar as well, maybe slightly longer. Here's the two trip reports I've found:

https://www.eddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/daiwoh/methoxpropamine_mxpr_aka_3meo2oxopcpr_launch/ (add an r to the link, 420chan's cat planet is annoying)


HXE (Hydroxetamine, 3-HO-2'-OxO-PCE) appears to have also been synthed, but it's not available yet, though hopefully it will be soon. There's even less information on it than MXPr, but if the reports are to be believed it appears to be a bit less potent than MXPr (and MXE, assuming the potency of MXPr is roughly the same), but much more sedating and with a more opioid-like body high. HXE is one of the active metabolites of MXE so technically anyone who's done MXE has already sampled HXE, but it's unclear how much HXE is produced from a dose of MXE or how much it contributes to the experience. I have really high hopes for this one as well due to its relation to MXE and the fact that it's analogous to Hydroxynorketamine, which is believed to be responsible for a lot of Ketamine's antidepressant effects, however if the reports are to be believed it's a much more potent dissociative itself, Hydroxynorketamine has little effect as an NMDAr antagonist.

And one final thing to add to this wonderful list of good news, there's a rumor that the lab responsible for all of this is also looking into synthesizing Deschloroketamine since it's legal where they're located, so there's a chance that DCK may be making a come back at some point in the future. Take this with a grain of salt though as it's just a rumor.

The future of ACH's is looking bright boys! I'm planning on getting a gram of MXPr at some point in the near future, so if all goes well I'll report back with a trip report of my own when I'm able to. Just thought I'd pass this information on.
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Cedric Chendlehug - Sat, 21 Dec 2019 04:40:16 EST TgEVA2Ny No.370087 Reply
how and why would you not be prepared for it's arrival with your own vessel and accoutrements?
Do you want the vendor to wipe your bottom for you aswell, Mr. Sacklepere?
i weigh 136lbs and take 350mg dxm - Sat, 21 Dec 2019 21:45:12 EST jtNMO8RJ No.370100 Reply
dollar store dxm and benadryl is king
zsingree - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 19:28:21 EST vDHzpBRf No.370431 Reply
circlejerk, or search the actual chemical name on another search that google

S isomer or racemic ket for more $, or cheaper 2fdck? Noob plz help!!!

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- Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:20:42 EST oRZBlfXt No.370351
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Hey /dis/ . I come to you because I had the pleasure of trying ketamine recently and am interested in acquiring more. The peoblem is it is hars to find locally, although I can get my hands on it, it is anywhere from 60 to 100 a gram. I dont know which kind of k i tried but I should have a choice of either racemic or s isomer. My question is, what do you guys think of 2fdck? I can get it for about half as much and I have heard it is great for newbies like myself. What do you guys recommend? If ket, what type based on your preferences? Should I splurge or go for the cheaper and non scheduled option?

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Oliver Brivingworth - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 17:37:37 EST 8DtXpPgQ No.370383 Reply
2-fdck is probably racemic, which makes it a bit weaker than most ketamine you can buy, but also last longer. At least where I life you can only get s-ketamine.
I like both equally. They are great to take if you also have some tryptamine or phenylethylamine in your system like 4-ho-met or 2c-c. It is also nice to preload with 3-ho-pcp, makes it much easier to hole.
Luxinsluts, fuxinbuts - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:57:48 EST k+LniWvV No.370385 Reply
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Go for the 2-fdck
Ketamine is great. MXE is the best but is a dream now. I’ve tried a variety of dissociatives. First did ketamine a decade ago. Have gone through various stages.
I’ve holed nearly just as well on 2f as I have with racemic ketamine. But ketamine is way more popular now and less pure than it used to be. There’s good k around sure. But I just bought some very unimpressive s isomer ket for 250 an eighth last weekend. Got 1.2 grams of straight shards of 2f for 40 bucks.

Not enough margin of magic over dollar imo. Again, decade long disso user.
Used PCP, 3-MeO-PCP, 3-HO-PCE, MXE, Ketamine and 2f. Mxe is the best of them all. 2f and ket are a tie in my book
Hedda Feckleshaw - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 17:54:07 EST S63c9HVk No.370430 Reply
OP here. Lack of quality is my main concern which is why I consider getting the f in the first place. I have to ask though, what is your route of administration? I would rather not have to intramuscular if possible

Alibaba vendors

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- Sun, 12 Jan 2020 05:16:35 EST 3X1SXF7o No.370320
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anyone bought dxm from changzhou confucius biotech? i was thinking about it and i saw 2 vouches on circlejerk but they have only done 65 orders in the past 6th months. someone lmk.
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Betsy Bomblesag - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:30:29 EST TgEVA2Ny No.370381 Reply
this is a pretty terrible and blatant violation of the rules, nb don't like thread.
Thomas Noblingville - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:32:31 EST w1DQro44 No.370414 Reply
Is it a rule violation even though they are talking about legal drug sources? Would it be a violation if i asked what pharmacy carries the cheapest asprin? nb
Cedric Gorringwat - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 00:22:19 EST 4P5FAxW9 No.370423 Reply
That would also include clearnet RC vendors. Anyway, if it's just as illegal to import DXM as to buy cocaine on DNM, then it's clear this is sourcing.

S Isomer Sucks

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- Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:52:45 EST AzLVnx+p No.370416
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After having Racemic 3 or 4 times and loving it, I found a new consistent K source! Yay, Christmas! I then found out she can only source S. Ok, a little disappointing but whatever surely it’s not that different right?

Nah son, unless you’re in a club tryna dance w people this shit is garbage in comparison to Racemic. The body high is like 1/4 as potent, auditory hallucinations are almost completely absent. All my favorite aspects are lessened. Is there something I’m missing here or a specialized use that it’s good at? As far as I can tell this is just completely inferior to Racemic.
Matilda Sipperwun - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:37:06 EST zc5qg0RN No.370417 Reply

are you 100% sure you aren't getting an RC analog? If you are sure, you could do a nice little experiment. It is proposed that the sigma receptor agonism in R-ketamine is responsible for some of the hallucinatory effects. You could do an experiment where you combine S-ketamine with a sigma agonist. A good candidate for that would be PRE-084, which is easily and cheaply available as a legal RC on the clearnet
Matilda Sipperwun - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:42:24 EST zc5qg0RN No.370418 Reply

Of course i mean only do that if you read about them and understand all risks.
Eliza Nonderkitch - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:42:52 EST 1sOVt4CZ No.370419 Reply
may be able to tell just by how crystalline it is tbh. i've never seen 2-FDCK have the very fine crystalline consistency that K has

K on the Way

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- Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:24:27 EST ueM/ry9d No.370415
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My first bag of ketamine in years will be in my hands in the next 30 minutes guys. I'm so beyond excited. I just gotta wait till after work to really do more than a taste test cuz I cant ski coach in a khole!

Dumbass college chad/normie scared to death of needles

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- Wed, 08 Jan 2020 11:10:09 EST KDCouWkT No.370270
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Decent sized post incoming:

This past fall I was in university dorms. I had siz other mates in the suite and one guy living in my room, call him M.

M is a super meat headed dumbass bodybuilder type, scream at video games, read text out loud, drinks coors lite and fuckin acts like he's the alpha male. Like this guy is literally the dumbest person I have ever met, and they fucking match me up with him in the dorms. I would make jokes about how I was the smartest person there, and he was the biggest (but really I mean the dumbest).

Anyway I live with this guy for about two months with few problems other than the fact that his side of the room is a mess, he sleeps in on his phone until noon every single day, bitches about every single assignment in every single class, says the word "stallion" unironically - other stupid phrases include "it do be like that sometimes," basically a fatass retard turned chad through two years of lifting.

So at this point I've had it with this guy and all the shit I have to put up with keeping him around.

I'm a hardcore drug nerd and I've been shooting Ketamine recreationally since I was 19. Not all the time, but sometimes. Like 500-1000 needles, I don't count them because it's second nature to me. M doesn't know this, even though I told them all, he just doesn't listen. He also tries to act all cool in the first few weeks saying shit like "I can taste test any kind of weed because I'm from ______ and we know weed," but the real kicker was when he said all cooly, "You know what they say, everyone likes heroin but nobody likes needles"

At this point I'm fucking laughing my ass off because of how retarded that statement is. I've been studying drugs since I was sixteen and I'm 24 now. I' ve been further with ketamine than 99.99% of people will ever go. Wherever I go, unless you've got an anesthesiologist with you, I'm the ketamine authority. I have never met another person who uses ketamine the way I do. I've done acid hundred of times, as well as MDMA, 2C-E, mushrooms, mesaline, cocaine, oxy, percs, ativan, adderall, salvia. I've worked in a clandestine honey oil laboratory in the cannabis grey market for years.

I'm so insulted by M's ignorance so I decide I'm gonna scare the living shit out of him. He says that he has a fear of needles, and he seems to have forgotten that I'm actually into needles. Halloween rolls around and nobody invited us to any parties, mostly because everyone else knows the situation, that I am a genius and I'm stuck with this asshole and nobody wants to be around him. We all decide to play a prank on him because he makes himself a target by going to the gym for four hours a day and shouting, he actually scares people away from the gym.

Anyway I go on the darknet and grab a few vials of K from my guy. I pick up a box of 100 needles on amazon and ship it all to my dorm room. The power is out, it's the day before halloween, and I spend the day alone in our room getting high. They can hear me puking a few times throughout the day but nothing serious. These people are dumb as shit.

So later that night M is in bed, it's 2:00 and I get up to prep a shot with a nightlight on.

All of a sudden M wakes up! And he is not happy. Think of the dumbest shit you could possibly hear, times ten. It's like family feud - uneducated things people say about drugs.

"Dude, what is that? Is that drugs? What are you doing? is that heroin?"

At this point I'm thinking like "oh fuck, cat's out of the bag now" so I have to fucking argue with this ape at 2 AM while I'm quietly sitting in my bed, giving myself a medication, literally as respectfully and safe as possible and this dude is yelling at me like I'm his fucking son and he is also a cop or some shit.

"It's ketamine"

"Dude I don't even know what that is! You do drugs? How many have you done? like a lot"
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Jarvis Cluttingville - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 18:05:10 EST TgEVA2Ny No.370421 Reply
spoiler]sage this fucking thread already[[/spoiler]
Martha Pockdock - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 06:35:55 EST 1sOVt4CZ No.370424 Reply
>Clap clap clap nb gg no re.
this is such an exquisite, powerful mic drop. extremely good

religion of /dis/

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- Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:56:24 EST woS+mL4e No.369929
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i was wondering what you guyss religious beliefs are like. ive seen a lotta gnostic and buddhist ideas expressed here which makes sense since they both think of this world as painful and something that you should try to escape and dissociatives let you escape from the material universe.

ive also got a theory that belief that the material world is evil will become more and more common as part of a dialectical relationship between religions with tripartite cosmologies (where the material world is a middle ground between two spiritual worlds, one good and one bad) and dualistic cosmologies (where the material world is opposed to one spiritual world). this is shown in the apocalyptic tradition of judaism evolving into gnosticism, manichaeanism, etc. as well as neoplatonism becoming more and more widespread in the modern ages while tripartite religions like zoroastrianism and old judaism were the only monotheistic/monolatric religions in ancient times.

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Hannah Seddlefin - Tue, 07 Jan 2020 07:35:21 EST nNYupZ0A No.370256 Reply
surely there are a bunch of atheists here where the posts tho
Jack !fXGyYTYKEM - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 08:07:12 EST lpEUJ55p No.370395 Reply
I think I'm basically a pantheist. I started out as a Christian (because of my folks), not a super-religious family - one or two services a year - they had some strong faith, but it was mostly a quiet, personal thing, no quoting of scripture or weird rules. They weren't pushy, but always answered with honest belief if I asked that kind of question.

By the time I went to college (the first time), I'd started to understand what the world was about, didn't think much of it. I was a watered-down Christian on the surface, kind of agnostic underneath. I wasn't a cool jaded atheist like my friends, I was just looking at life through the bleak existential filter of just after high school. I didn't finish college that time, and I think a lot of the work I did went unacknowledged, by myself and everyone else. Looking back, I really did try.

It's the only time I've ever actually worked at the spiritual side of things. That college was incredibly isolating anyway, and adding existential angst to that wasn't a lot of fun. I was chipping away at it where I could, trying to arrive at a set of beliefs I could live with. I read science and philosophy, and I spent a fair amount of time just trying to puzzle things out myself, rationally. A set of beliefs ought to be based on an absolute, so I started out using death as my base. "What is death?" "What is life?" "What is conception?" - defining some very basic truths, then working through the permutations, writing it out. I don't know if I still have all of it, but some of that was pretty good. Fascinating to me at the time.

Two things I read that stand out to me (that a lot of people walking that road probably don't come across). Ken Wilber's "A Brief History of Everything" is the first. There's a lot of spiritual stuff, especially in the last half of the book, that I didn't buy at the time. It does a great job of laying out the concept of "holons" and a "holarchy," though, which made so much intuitive sense to me that it relieved a lot of existential pressure by itself. I hadn't answered the big questions, but I really felt like I understood the shape of the world. It is a concise, elegant explanation of how things fit together on every level. It speaks to the "nuts and bolts" of the existential question in a way a laymen can grasp.

I didn't have a lot of patience at the time (just out of high school), and it's not a dense text by any means, but given where I was in life - biologically - it was still tough to make myself sit down and try with it. That was true for anything that wasn't fiction, basically anything productive, which informed most of the failings I had a person then.

Daniel Dennett's "Pandemonium" theory did the same thing for my understanding of the mind. He said some basic, easily understood but profound things that helped me understand the shape of conscious thought. Things like: the mind is basically a set of associations. Every thought you have calls up other thoughts (he called those "units" daemons, giving the theory its name), which in turn call up others, and so forth. My concept of "blue ball" is going to be different from Jeff's, because - setting aside biological differences - everything I've experienced in connection with "blue" and "ball" (and the concept as a whole) since birth, every time those words/images come up, is completely different, and that's what we call into mind when someone mentions it. It might not be a difference we recognize when we talk about it, but the phrase calls up a unique constellation of "daemons" for each of us, a different "blue ball" (which gets at "qualia" in philosophical terms). And yeah, that image is deliberate. Existential blue balls is no fun :(

The last piece to this set, of course, is drugs. I tried to answer the existential question with direct knowledge. I'd messed around with low-tier stuff, weed, pills, whatever, some light psychedelics. The afterglow of DXM alleviated my crushing depression for a few days after each use, so I was no stranger to that, and it led me to MXE. I've posted a lot of long love letters to this drug, so I'll try to keep this bit short.

If you boil it down, MXE helped in two ways. It was like I'd been wearing a veil…
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Martin Brookbury - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:25:49 EST MYA7SC5S No.370404 Reply
Perennialist gnostic just enjoying the go, the more i learn the less i know


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- Sat, 18 Jan 2020 06:52:58 EST T31F9qek No.370394
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How the fuck do you find this shit if you live in the United States? Have any of you ever had it? How does it compare to DXM? It almost seems like a myth at this point.

I haven't used a dissociative in years, not since I got out of high school. The only reason I would ever try them again is if I got my hands on some MXE.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 13:54:35 EST nbzjhGtt No.370398 Reply
A bit less sedating, but less stimulating than DXM. MXE held a sweet spot for a lot of people in terms of effects. Ketamine is one of the most sedating common dissociatives whereas DXM and PCP are at the other end of the spectrum.
MXE was great for oral ROA as it had a higher bioavailability than intranasal and was less harsh on the bladder than K. Oral MXE lasted a long time and was strong with a slow onset of an hour to an hour and a half. MXE was stronger than K as well.
Ketamine is lovely. MXE is lovely. After 8 years of dissociative use i can’t say one is “better” than the other, but they both are some of the best drugs I have had the pleasure to take a bunch of times in my life.
MXE was also more common in social settings when I was in my teens and early 20s since it was less sedating. Friends of mine who weren’t into any hallucinogen but MDMA were usually down for MXE on the weekend every so often. I have a lot of great memories with the substance. Shit, I wish I had some now. We all do.
Clara Gegglenick - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 13:59:58 EST rVds5HWb No.370399 Reply
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Interesting, i've only ever had ketamine as DXM isn't available in concentrations enough to get high in my country, and ketamine fascinates me like nothing else really. It's caused me to read up on neurology and things like dejavu and how our memories and perception work, how time perception might work.

I actually find ketamine quite dysphoric but like it shows me something so mindblowing i end up going back to it anyway as i still struggle to fathom how influencing glutamate in the brain can result in such specific effects that change the percieved universe, so the idea to me of what another kind of disassociative would be like is really interesting.


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- Sat, 04 Jan 2020 08:03:04 EST rVds5HWb No.370230
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Is there any way to increase your chances of having a more positive k-hole rather than a scary one?

I think i've always just been on the verge of a k-hole but never quite gone all the way, i've had scary times on ketamine and very interesting times, but never any kind of euphoria. I know the whole point isn't to be euphoric but i'm a bit scared i end up in some terrifying hell hole
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William Nannerstidge - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 09:36:28 EST rVds5HWb No.370369 Reply
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>Otherwise combine it with 2c-x (except 2c-e). It makes the hole more alive. Not sure if this combo can cause a bad trip easily, I do this often myself.
Is it similar to 2cb? I've tried that with ket a few times and it's lovely, maybe for a similar but more feel-good effect try 2cb?

I watched the big lebowski and felt like i was in it too, especially when he was flying through the air.
Weird thing happened, one of the scenes in the car park started playing backwards for me, people talking backwards, bullets going back into guns, one of the weirdest things i've expereinced on ket
Betsy Bomblesag - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:29:10 EST TgEVA2Ny No.370380 Reply
the only way to K-hole for me: Bedroom, lights off, in bed as if you're going to sleep. Headphones in, your favourite album playing at a decent volume. Relax, and fucking drift off into the vastness of yourself.
Oliver Brivingworth - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 17:41:06 EST 8DtXpPgQ No.370384 Reply
I meant with 2-x, the family, so like 2c-b, 2c-c, 2c-i, 2c-b-fly. Yes it is wonderful with 2c-b, I like that more than with tryptamines.

Cardio effects of dissociatives and whether people are worried about them

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- Mon, 16 Dec 2019 19:40:35 EST 60klLnIO No.370011
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In my experience, dissociatives have a similar cardio load to stimulants, especially if you go into the higher doses. I get hot and flushed on them, and when I'm coming down I can feel my extremities sting, which is a symptom of hypertensive urgency. Now I'm a pretty unhealthy fella and I know it, and dissociatives convinced me to change my life around and get more healthy, but I still like them. My doctor seems to outright refuse the idea of giving me medication to lower my blood pressure and I'm on a diet of ramen and Domino's salad because of my poverty. So I'm wondering, is there anything to do to lower my blood pressure during a trip, or will I just have to spend every trip wondering if this is going to be the one where I stroke out? Do you guys worry about the heavy cardio effects on dissociatives? Why or why not?
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Henry Drumblefuck - Fri, 20 Dec 2019 21:13:25 EST QTi+BtG8 No.370078 Reply
extreme cuts/fasting are actually safer than people think if you make sure to take vitamins and electrolytes and eat 600-800 kcal instead of nothing, which has a negligible effect on weight loss because you're body still goes into starvation mode but you still get essential nutrients and all that and also it keeps your metabolism going WHILE your body

Bupropion/dextromethorphan at a ratio of 300mg/60-90mg taken up to five times a week helped me lose 50lbs in 3 months along with diet/exercise and taking additional supplements

not to mention how it works wonders for my depressive episodes without throwing me into mania like traditional SSRIs do

haven't tripped this entire time, just feel groovy all the time and have to force myself to eat

when I was really fat because of BID with intermittent bulimia i always wished (somewhat myopically) that I could flip a switch and land on the opposite side of the ED spectrum where I would not eat because it was something I can control and have to force myself to eat and this did it for me
Oliver Pockway - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 00:40:15 EST 893azL3B No.370377 Reply
so i bought a blood pressure monitor off amazon for this exact question. they are just 20 bucks if you are concerned about it.

i'm a pretty healthy guy, i exercise regularly and my BP is usually like 105/70.

i tested myself when taking dissociatives, and yes, there is a significant spike. it is like i'm exercising heavily. 160/120 sort of spike, even when i'm chilling on the couch.

the more you use dissos, the more you will be in a hypertensive state. in the long run this is unhealthy.

if you already have hypertension, then I think dissos could be dangerous.

stay healthy folks, and use our favourite chemicals in moderation.

if you are really worried about it, maybe take some baby aspirin when you take your trips

Trippin 2nite

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!CGFwIbbIo6 - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 19:23:47 EST u8j9/Fjy No.370375
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Sup everyone, it's been a great past few days for me and I've gotten past some pretty big issues that had been holding me down mentally for a long while, so I'm having a celebratory trip tonight. I made a discord that I'll be deleting in the morning when I have to get back to adulting unless things go really exceptionally well.

Hopefully I'll see some old friends there, maybe we can toast marshmallows and sing kumbaya around the campfire like old times, or maybe it'll just be me and a few folks sitting around while I listen to music and zone out, either way I'll be having fun tonight!


Luv y'all

benadryl gang

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- Thu, 09 Jan 2020 06:41:39 EST EoaiRrTF No.370283
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hey is this guy a user of this thread? did i just find something? anyway interesting guy and a fellow grip n sipper.
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Mr_Shawmeen - Thu, 09 Jan 2020 18:51:03 EST OoMgiDDf No.370287 Reply
I want to second this motion, but at the same time he might just be terribly ignorant.

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