>>366983

>tobacco, which turns dxm blah blah

say wot m8 what in the fuck are you smoking, protip its prolly not that good ol baccy

why would tobacco noticeably affect DXM in any way other than what it does by itself? At least with benedryl tobacco acts as an agonist on the same receptors it is antagonizing, but what are you getting at with dxm?

ok here's the deal, i didn't die but i was high for 72 hours and I'm still dissociated but not drug dissociated mental illness/BPD dissociated which is kind of similar but different and way less fun but I'm taking it in stride

i think in the future i'm not going to do bullshit like this again and avoid drugs that are largely broken down by CYP2D6 if the drug itself is active. If it only has active metabolites and I'll just have a diminished experience not a stronger one I may meddle with that but no DXM and no opiates for me for now at least, idk what else buproprion effect, it potentiates weed and alcohol for me but idk what the mechanism for that is, those two things have been pretty safe nothing like what happened here

>>366983
thank you for gracing my thread

>>366987
Did you read my post(>>366975) here. I was trying to explain that with an active and strong P450 enzyme inhibitor continuously active and built up in the blood there would be metabolite accumulation and it would metabolize like memantine in that it just has to get "used up" as it is VERY slowly broken down. That said, the depersonalization you are feeling is STILL the effect of the drug on SOME level. It's gonna take some time to wear off. Drink lots of water or maybe tea to speed up your metabolism and get some b vitamins in you and that will help a little.

FAIR WARNING:
The drug you are on and the enzyme family it inhibits will interfere with a large percentage of drugs and make some that may be totally nontoxic potentially dangerous. I'm not sure how psychedelics would work with it, I'd have to do a shit fuck ton of reading for and I CAN if you ask me to, but MOST if not all prescription recreational drugs will be affected. You seem to understand the idea of a prodrug so I can tell you that those won't work either unless they aren't metabolized in the liver like 1P-LSD, but that only accounts for some ten-ish percent of drugs.

The reason you feel so depersonalized is because you're experiencing DXO buildup in the blood and that's more NMDA centered while DXM itself is serotonergic having strong SRI effects and minor 5HT-2a agonism, making the experience feel more full/emotional/psychedelic whereas true dissos are kinda plastic and unemotional and, well, dissociative.

2.5 years of daily 3-meo-pcp and going strong lol

>>366964
tbf one time i binged meth for days just to see what that experience was like. i bought it expressly for that purpose and it's probably around a third of my lifetime consumption

>>366970

damn dude! that's almost as long as I've been daily doing ketamine

>>365578
I already made several threads on this. I've been using DXM as an antidepressant/nootropic for months now. Been having my liver enzyme levels tested too and it looks about good. Anyway, for me on those doses it would seem my sweets pot is between .5mg/kg and 1mg/kg but I'm also quite heavy and on the tall side. I lift weights and stay active at this weight so dosing for anyone who wants to try that is gonna HAVE to titrate. I added DXM to my stack when I heard of memantine being used as a nootropic with some young folks and Alzheimer's med to reduce confusion(i.e. aid in concentration). The idea with memantine had something to do with NMDA receptor antagonists raising glutamate or glutamine levels in the brain. So I added DXM since it raises serotonin levels on a broad scale as it's a powerful serotonin reuptake inhibitor AS WELL AS an NMDA receptor antagonist.
So back to the meat of my nootropic stack. It is as follows;

• DMAE
  
• GABA
  
• Ginkgo Biloba
  
• L-Lysine
  
• L-glutamine
  
• L-Tyrosine
  
• Ginseng
  
• Caffeine
  

This combination with the addition of the differently therapeutic off label dose of DXM in the described ranges has all but obliterated my depression. My wife tried it too and thought it was fucking amazing. It's really helped me out, but since you made another thread like this I figured this was a relevant place to offer and update.

>>367024

datura is more of a deliriant imo

that being said, holy shit. the list you posted is very interesting and picturesque of datura gone wrong, lmao. Why the fuck are these guys mixing datura with hard stimulants like cocaine and meth? Who would ever think that is a good idea? I can't say I'm completely surprised at the outcome of those combinations.

taking datura obviously leads one to some interesting delusions... but at the same time, you're usually too retarded to accomplish any of your deluded intentions while on it, am i wrong? when combined with a stimulant like meth or coke though, I think one gives oneself way too much conviction and ability to actualize the delusions...

anyway, thanks for sharing. I haven't had any friends go off the deep end yet, though I do have a couple acquaintances who have had bad times with prolonged use of huge doses of LSD. They've seeked help and seem to be doing okay from what I can tell.

Yes. This is the reason I am in two minds about purchasing ketamine again. It's too good. Even now, when I've taken it maybe twice in five months, small bumps at that, I get cravings sometimes. Times where it seems like the most magical, wonderful thing to do.

In reality, it's isolating. It's not good for me. It's risky.

Years ago, I got too into DXM. Even going 4th plat every week was enough to set my sense of reality off kilter. What I really needed to do was to go and get help for my depression.

At one point, I was on the opposite side of reality, and I remembered what I had to go back to, and was hit with the overwhelming sadness and terror of it all. The terror of ordinary existence. It proved to me that, however I rationalised it, DXM was an escape for me. I wasn't using it in a way that was beneficial to me whatsoever.

Yes, I do want to get immersed in musical landscapes again. I yearn for it. But I also know it's not necessarily wise.

Help me lads. Thinking about ketamine again has me all giddy... it's so perfect.. beautiful glistening crystals.. ughhhhh

BASED DESCARTISM LOADING..........LOADED!

ITHINKTHEREFOREIAMTHEMATRIXHASYOU

you_ve_met_with_a_terrible+fate.exe

Haven't you?

exeumpt>>DXMPC

DEXPC.....accepted!
if quoth if .....password accepted!

entering memory terminals..................
subjective data batch bin yes no ????

>yes
>answer is no
>no

OBJKECTIVEREALITY.TIFABC
1337ingemessage

much like gambling and the internet and anime everything in moderation
I regularly attend alcoholics anonymous meetings
helps put things in perspective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU3QM1pJffs

think about your escapism then realize japan is +1 fucked

>>367017
Thanks for this honest response. I have noticed something which I think is interesting. It seems very escapist for you - e.g. the musical landscapes. However when I use DXM I am often thinking about my future life and what I'm working towards. So for me its escapist, because I like the visuals and music and deep thoughts too, but I also quite deliberately think about my goals and the things I really want to achieve while on it. There are probably very many reasons to use such drugs. I've almost never used it without a specific purpose. Also I can see you've ritualised ketamine to some extent - you've probably tied the beauty of the crystals to what you feel while on it. You could try thinking more about what triggers you into doing it and cutting the triggers.

>>367011
Lol

>>367012

youre good but im better!!!

>>367020
Yea I've given up on quality. Invega ruins my initiative and drive and over all experience.

>>367003

>Bird gives me bad feelings of uncanny valley.
>Reverse image search

I's a "shoebird" at the Berlin Zoo during WWII.
Wow, these shoebirds really trip me out.

>>367014
I feel my head expanding just looking at the little rascal

450mg dxm gels
Might get more
Trying to unlock everything in crypt of the necrodancer
Watching. Nostalgic music videos

>>366789
Sometimes, yes; quite.

>>366789
Like something to accomplish I post nudes of myself because of DXM interference,

havent done it where both people are on dxm but i imagine it would get primal quick

i did it where i was on the one on dxm and i just felt comfy namean

as a man, it was like our spines were the dna ladder rungs it was quite

well just goes to show you nature wants you to procreate dat. badly

>>366906
enjoy your full-blown psychosis

The death combination is MAOIs, not SSRIs, although a couple SSRIs carry risks that aren't just serotonin syndrome. Do your own research.
People heavily exaggerate the risk, but, be careful. Do some research and start with low doses.

In my experience years and years ago while on high dose paroxetine it mainly just clogged up my metabolism in a way that was desirable for the DXM. but that does not mean it will be your experience.

>>366906
Don't take SSRS's

>>366991

No problem! I have no idea, I think some pH strips have a limited range, no clue if the brands sold at pet shops are like that or not. The ones I have go from 1-14, if it's any less than that then it's probably not going to be as useful. Ebay has them if you don't want to order off Amazon.

You could also get away with not testing the pH, when I first got started I didn't bother and I never had any huge issues. It's better to use them, though.

>>366991
I was thinking about getting the pH strips from a hot tub store if there is one nearby. pH strips for aquariums should be accurate enough too. Another place to check can be stores like home depot or lowes or ace.

Gave this a trial run with a few bottles of robocough; the expected yield was 3000 but i fucked up at the bag part and wasted a lot so i only got maybe a g. Still it was a success and ive got the supplies on hand to do it more. I havemt tried the dxm and wont be able to for a few days so im just gonna let it dry more. Ill come back to this thread to let you guys know how it goes

>>366980
also sorry for doubleposting but sometimes I feel like pedestrian traffic lights were designed for people who are high
like most people can intuitively know when to cross and when not to but when you're high having such an overtly simple symbol holding your hand through the whole process is a godsend and I love whoever thought of it nb

it is fun if you are biking in a safe environment away from traffic like on a greenway or in a bike lane or on a forest trail. One time I was doing it in a neighborhood that had houses without driveways, so most of the cars were parked on the street. I can't remember exactly what happened except that I was pedaling super slow uphill and somehow managed to bump into a parked car. Then I made sure no one saw and kept going. I remember checking to confirm there was no damage, but my eye sight may have been very fucked up at the time. After that, I only bike as a last resort for important travel.

>>364985
Please share an example of freehand graffiti that is good to look at. pic unrelated. I'm really curious about what type of graffiti would be accepted by people who say they do not like graffiti. Sorry, this was asked on the art board in the graffiti thread but no replies yet.

>>365304
i don't dose with the gels because I am vegetarian. So sorry I can't help you there. I know that store brand syrups feel different in strength between different stores and when compared to brand name ones. But usually it's not so noticeable that I would question the power of the dose. Maybe you ate more one day and less on the other. Dxm has to go through the digestive system to be absorbed, so that's why I would observe diet in relation to dose.

>>365439
yah the second day of dosing polisterex is waymore potent as the electrolytes have had time to eat up the plastic(polisterex)

the delsym and off brand alts contain dxm hbr as-well as dxm polistirex. After filtering the dxm polistirex you can extract the dxm hbr as freebase or agent lemon using lemon juice or preferably citric acid and water. Get the best of both worlds.

>>366918
>>366918
His point wasn’t about it being an origin story or not or being factually backed up by a scientific paper. It’s about it being forced and inorganic.

Although I’m personally for your Disso day and will celebrate with my dissociative brothers. I feel that there’s really little need for such an excuse as we dose up and get fucked up on the reg with the only excuse being “I felt like it”, “the dis gods willed it” etc.

>>366924
The dis gods demand a holiday to make especially merry, so say I, instrument of their divine provenance.

>>366957
THE DIS GODS HAVE WILLED IT!!!!!

>>366858
How is mobile suit gundam?

>>366866
couldn't tell you. i never really watched much of the gundam series and the only drug related memories i have watching any of the gundams was randomly watching it like all fucking day with a friend of mine when we were teenagers and nodding hard as fuck on the couch all day.

the stuff i usually watch while on DXM is Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Neon Genesis Evangelion+End of Evangelion+the Rebuilds, Serial Experiments Lain, Akira, and a few other random odd movies or series here and there.

A more recent one that went with /dis/ superbly was Made In Abyss. The world building, atmosphere, art work, and what happens in it meshed perfectly with being blasted on dissociatives. I just wish they'd make a second season or movies/OVAs to continue where things left off already.

I would only ever use music or films I'm already familiar with, its just too alien otherwise, and a waste. Also I remember less when the material is new. It's easier to remember insights and breakthroughs and new ways of looking at things when I can connect it back to the media I was engaged in.

>>366882
Disregard the related videos and I posted the wrong link lol.

>>366914
This should read

>Disregard everything I post I forgot my sanity.