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Saturday trip

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- Sat, 02 Nov 2019 15:29:33 EST ZR4YClMH No.369372
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Anyone gonna trip tonight? got some robocough and dab prolly gonna dex around 5 and listen to some skeler.
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Lydia Crirryham - Sat, 02 Nov 2019 23:15:31 EST uzGVlBZ5 No.369375 Reply
>>369372
I saw your post while Onsra by skeler is playing on Spotify and I come up on 900mgs. Love ya.

675 Melted Pills Trip

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- Wed, 11 Sep 2019 05:59:01 EST vwAhi3Ww No.368520
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Well, just bought 3 bottles of pills from the $1 store. Melted them in a coffee mug with boiling water and picked the gel caps out with a fork. Then I put some ice cubes in it and drank the liquid down fast. Drank some lemon juice to help get rid of the taste in the back of my throat and then brushed my teeth.

I wonder what delusions and hallucinations I will experience today.
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John Nicklestock - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 01:16:02 EST Tw8O+9JO No.369294 Reply
>>369293
It's a pretty good combination of the two imo
The right songs can set your mind on a totally different track, for instance, and that's really more through someone else's soul than your own, though your soul as a receiver certainly plays a big part
I know that too varies between individuals
But the person/soul is just an amalgamation of the tools that were used before and how they were used and by whom they were used
I mean, I'm kind of a determinist (sometimes) so you might not agree. But I'm not into this idea that there are classes of people who can/can't and that it isn't actually extremely easy. Not to imply that that's what you're saying if it isn't. But shit you can never tell with people online anyway cause who the fuck knows what prior experience is behind what they say and what face they're showing.
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Cyril Chibblemidge - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:13:07 EST SbwfkfyM No.369330 Reply
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>>369294

>But the person/soul is just an amalgamation of the tools that were used before and how they were used and by whom they were used

Yeah, that's definitely determinism. Your post makes a lot of sense but what I think you're leaving out is choice. The reason I say that is because I've seen many people have really hard lives, full of painful experiences, and do absolutely nothing with them, just grow bitter and cynical with time. Contrast that with someone else's painful experiences and hard life, who consistently makes the choice to interpret the experiences as of course painful but informative nonetheless, then take actions to remedy what allowed the situations when possible (it's not always possible, life can be arbitrary and chaotic beyond your ability to deal with).

Not only my observations of other people either, but my observation of my own mental state as well. I have negative thoughts sometimes, everyone does, but when I focus and become aware that these thoughts are not helping me in any way shape or form, I can let them go and put my energy into more positive thoughts. I mean that literally, I'll turn my attention to the things I know I can do to make my life better. It's insane how quickly and dramatically your life can change when you start to put the energy you're wasting focusing on things you dislike but can't change, into the things you love and can slowly improve.

>But I'm not into this idea that there are classes of people who can/can't and that it isn't actually extremely easy.

I'm not sure where you're finding this idea. It's not like it's difficult to understand these concepts; in a way it's the most basic thing in the world. The difficulty arises when you have to ACT the ideas out CONSISTENTLY, it's like building a muscle, it takes time and discipline and work.

We are given a mind that hones in on negativity extremely easily, that also can forget about good things/take them for granted effortlessly, so working against that to alter you perspective and then extend that to your life, boy it takes a goddamn lifetime for even the strongest among us.
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Doris Havingbere - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 22:26:36 EST gpD2gVMy No.369366 Reply
>>369330
very articulate. I enjoyed reading your post, thank you. be well.

Disso chat/discord???

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- Thu, 06 Jun 2019 21:57:32 EST 6wqFpQZ5 No.366816
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So anywhere nice to chat with fellow disso heads? There's r/drugs discord but it's kinda empty. Wanna be some place where the disso kids hang out.
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Wesley Brimmleridge - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:52:43 EST mtlHLjfr No.369311 Reply
>>369279
But I can have camsex with my boyfriend on discord so it's good.

Ketamine for depression

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- Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:39:29 EST LZ9fsLfP No.369260
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Anyone had any success using ketamine to treat their depression. Apparently it's a thing doctors offer now, but it's stupid expensive and I don't want to pay that much if it doesn't work. Has anyone here had it cure their depression? Also how much does it cost on the street? They're trying to tell me it will be $500 per dose.
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Betsy Tootbury - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:19:30 EST m4cMpHvw No.369271 Reply
>>369263
What's the chemical difference between PCE and Ketamine?
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Frederick Sillerbanks - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 19:29:07 EST BQviShWn No.369272 Reply
>>369271

You mean O-PCE? Ketamine's phenyl group gets chlorinated and the methylamino group gains a carbon atom making it an ethylamino group.

If you mean PCE, it loses the oxygen and the cyclohexanone group becomes a cyclohexylamine group.
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mexxed - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:52:09 EST /3/CrRvb No.369308 Reply
>>369270
The notion that psychiatric drugs need to be dosed daily like an SSRI to sustain steady-state plasma levels is something that the big pharma industry has taught us to think applies to everything, but neurobioloogy begs to differ. Ketamine infusions for depression are done on a weekly or monthly basis, irrespective of the half life of the drug because of long-term changes in the mesolimbic pathway. You are better off taking a big dose every few days than taking a small dose every day because the neurons you're trying to antagonize are not evenly distributed throughout the pathway. Taking a daily dose of an NMDAR antagonist will induce a downregulation of receptors at one point in the pathway before reaching the part that is critical for depression (really long name for a tiny part of the brain that I forgot). This is not even getting into how NMDAR antagonists affect BDNF, which is still being researched and that's a whole other discussion.

Microdosing is stupid.

PCE derivatives actually legal in Canada?

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- Sun, 27 Oct 2019 04:33:20 EST BQviShWn No.369282
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Here is the document: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-38.8/index.html

The relevant parts are:

Schedule I

>Phencyclidine (1-(1-phenylcyclohexyl)piperidine), its salts, derivatives and analogues and salts of derivatives and analogues, including: (1) Ketamine (2-(2-chlorophenyl)-2-(methylamino)cyclohexanone)

So you might think that "derivatives and analogues" of PCP might be why PCE derivatives are illegal. However...

Schedule III

>N–(1–phenylcyclohexyl)ethylamine (PCE) and any salt thereof

This does not mention any "derivatives and analogues" of PCE. If you want to make the case that the Schedule I ruling of "any derivatives or analogues" of PCP covers derivatives of PCE, why is PCE then not Schedule I?

Have people been mistakenly believing that PCE derivatives are illegal in Canada? Can somebody prove to me otherwise?
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Phyllis Gingernatch - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 03:37:16 EST rwoCT7BN No.369295 Reply
>>369282
>If you want to make the case that the Schedule I ruling of "any derivatives or analogues" of PCP covers derivatives of PCE, why is PCE then not Schedule I?
Most laws (western world but not Europe) surrounding psychoactive chemicals have a base of substances that go straight to the 1st tier Methamp, Heroin, LSD etc. Then over the years different chemicals are added as they become more than a small sample in a small lab accumulating dust.
Ketamine is PCM and I imagine its schedule 3 or lower, so PCE makes sense in that sense to be in schedule 3.

I think what you posted needs a bit more context because I can't imagine PCP and PCM being schedule 1. To be a wet blanket most analogue laws work like this.
  • PCP illegal
  • PCx illegal because PCP is illegal
  • Because PCx is illegal then O-PCx & 5-MeO-PCIp is illegal
In essence a sort of cascading effect. I would like to think that isn't the case but many analogue laws regardless how they are worded work that way. If it isn't illegal because of PCP it is illegal because of Ketamine (PCM) as PCE just has a Ethyl Chain instead of a Methyl Chain. If I'm wrong please correct me.
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Phyllis Gingernatch - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 03:43:46 EST rwoCT7BN No.369296 Reply
>>369295
Correction
PCM is DesChloroKetamine. 2-Cl-PCE would be an analogue of Ketamine, # - X - PCE would also be analogue. That is likely why you do not see PCE derivatives and analogues. "derivatives and analogues" is also specifically phrased like that for this sort of thing.
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Beatrice Clunnermare - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 09:13:59 EST BQviShWn No.369297 Reply
>>369295
> I think what you posted needs a bit more context because I can't imagine PCP and PCM being schedule 1.

Yes, PCP and Ketamine are indeed schedule I, not III.

I think if nothing else, this would give somebody a case to argue that PCE derivatives should be legal.

Psilocin, 4-HO-DMT, is schedule III. Currently you can buy 4-Aco-DMT legally as analogues of psilocin are not scheduled.

If law enforcement were to say that your 3-HO-PCE is a PCP derivative and therefore schedule I, you could make the case that it's more similar to the schedule III substance and point to the precedent of 4-HO-DMT vs 4-Aco-DMT.

3-HO-PCP and 3-MeO-PCP quality

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- Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:31:48 EST rLasZJG5 No.364887
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So whats the deal with this shit
I have had it from different vendors now
I used to just throw it into an order because I like to have a variety of drugs so its safe to say that it wasn't just a bad batch or cut stuff from one vendor.
Everywhere it says dosage ranges from 2-8mg
My go to disso was 3-MeO-PCP but lately I found that the batches going around aren't what they used to be so I only got 3-HO-PCP at the moment which seems to be at least pure and of good quality
3-HO-PCP is fucking boring bullshit though and it hardly has any of the so praised opioid affinity and its also not really dissociating and it lacks the stimulation that other dissos give you which wouldn't be a problem if it was actually that potent but when I do 3-HO-PCP it takes me around 30-40mg to get a somewhat effect from it

I have had the grey stuff in the past and the white stuff at the moment which seems actually pretty pure idk it doesnt leave any residue when I snort it and dissolves completely
I also tried 3-HO-PCE in the past which was even shittier
where is the good 3-MeO-PCP/PCE stuff I used to get seems like only bunk batches going around lately
The RC game seems to be at a low point anyway right now
so many shortages of several good substances, not only dissos
whats the deal with all that
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 05:29:02 EST HzzwxmvU No.368949 Reply
>>364887
Since MXE's production was banned I have not bought, used, or even seriously considered any RC dissociative. Damn shame, but once it seems like quality control is up to par and everyone has a decent dosage guide up that every god damn vendor is out of stock or in a country I do not feel safe ordering from.
Shit's weak!
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Nicholas Corringpan - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 02:15:10 EST DbyDwnHo No.368958 Reply
>>368949
interesting. my DCK experience mimicked what you're saying, but i think i did it wrong.
i got my incredible lifetime supply of 3-meo-pcp direct from a very solid chinese lab (that doesn't exist anymore :[ ) and the 3-ho was also very international and probably well sourced
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Madiosn - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 09:36:07 EST mqOal6yu No.369286 Reply
>>364965 I live in Canada and hoping to contact you.

m a d i s o n 9 4 8 at o u t l o o k . c o m

Glaucine thread

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- Tue, 22 Oct 2019 05:59:20 EST YTuybFky No.369197
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Anyone had experience with this stuff? Some OTC meds have it in them, but only in europe (sucks to be me). Anyone know if you can/need to extract from the yellow horned poppy? Is it easy to get the powder online, and will it likely be stopped by customs? legality in general?
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Charlotte Chommlepack - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 04:56:20 EST HFIXxQj0 No.369228 Reply
> is it easy to order the powder online
Yeah. It shouldn't be scheduled where you are either. That being said, don't always expect your baggies of powder to get through customs if shipping from overseas. If you have trouble buying the powder for whatever reason, it comes in pill form that you should be able to import as well (again, assuming it's unscheduled where you are).

>Anyone had experience with this stuff?
Yeah. It's an interesting experience. Not nearly as powerful as DXM, but not really the same sorts of vibes come out of it anyway.

If you take it *with* DXM, it really seems to make the afterglow just keep dragging on.
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Edward Gozzlestick - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:31:13 EST lJfbw+w1 No.369273 Reply
>>369228
How would you recommend taking it? Can you make tea from the poppy? How much should a beginner take?
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Eliza Henningfuck - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 00:35:25 EST HFIXxQj0 No.369276 Reply
You take it orally. Tea from the flower will not be nearly as potent as getting glaucine in powder form or as pills. Plus, you will not be able to measure your dose when trying to do it as tea.

You might want to start with 300-500mg. At least, that's about where I dose with it. Don't expect the experience to be like DXM. Glaucine is definitely dissociative on its own, but it is a different experience.

Good luck.

2'-Oxo-PCE Appreciation Thread

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- Fri, 18 Oct 2019 20:45:43 EST BQviShWn No.369170
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Who else loves this stuff? It finally hit the market again recently... double the price I paid last year, but I'm just glad it's back.

3-MeO-PCP is the cherry on top, still waiting for that to arrive. If anyone here has both O-PCE and 3-MeO-PCP and would like to participate in a mini study:

Take two parts O-PCE to one part 3-MeO-PCP, insufflated. It's been a while, but I recall it feeling a lot like MXE but even better.

MXE is 3-MeO-2'-Oxo-PCE so the bro-science kind of works out?

I encourage you all to join the O-PCE master race.
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Phoebe Dammerwene - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:00:23 EST 3jTm8tij No.369269 Reply
>>369247
taking one for the team there mate I appreciate that, fucking leddit deleting rcsources
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Albert Drallywell - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 00:23:43 EST tBs55sn8 No.369274 Reply
>>369247

Thank you sir. I may just get a chance to experience this chem now.

Robo Cough Storage

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- Sun, 29 Sep 2019 22:38:51 EST zL5EYkyP No.368988
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What is the shelf life of dxm syrups like Robocough?
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Crater Waste - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:54:25 EST uTC1IJkn No.369017 Reply
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Do they only sell berry flavor on their website now? Is grape the other flavor? i forget
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Pseudo Qui Qui - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:49:29 EST zL5EYkyP No.369262 Reply
>>369017
From what I’ve seen they have stopped selling the original grape flavor
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Matilda Bardfuck - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 13:30:42 EST /ApTTIX9 No.369265 Reply
>>368988
It says on the bottom how long it lasts.
For mine it lasts almost a year from when I bought it and you get two bottles so it's worth the money.

DXM microdose

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- Wed, 23 Oct 2019 20:04:50 EST 6Zv8gxXs No.369216
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Is there any merit to this?
I wonder if taking a semi regular regimen of 1st plat and under doses would have a positive effect on mood and anxiety levels.
Or would this just fuck the tolerance up for when it is time for the big dance?
Tell me your ways /dis/
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Hannah Shittingfoot - Wed, 23 Oct 2019 20:08:50 EST IloN6QLN No.369217 Reply
>>369216
It will prob help. Don't expect a magical cure all though.

Ketamine - external stimuli

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- Sun, 13 Oct 2019 18:14:22 EST x8ptrQOQ No.369111
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Ok, when I normally take ket I tend to play a video game at the start and have some kind of movie on and it becomes immersive and takes me on a trip which seems related to the movie.

I have a gram left and i'm wondering if anyone here takes ket in just a silent room with no films, music or anything?

Does this differ much for you? Does anyone find that putting just music on also has an effect on the trip (before if you get to the point where you can't even hear it, that is)
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Seeker of Truth - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:59:36 EST We589e6N No.369190 Reply
>>369111
Anyone else really like listening to hardcore/gabber on ketamine?
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Cedric Sepperbanks - Wed, 23 Oct 2019 11:11:49 EST 66WERSJT No.369209 Reply
>>369190

Never did ketamine but I did like it a lot when under the influence of dextromethorphan

ROUGHLY HOLY DOLLAR TREE DEX BIBLE

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- Sun, 29 Sep 2019 00:05:03 EST BVHpQuGy No.368957
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COMPILED BY DK SEPTEMBER TWENTY FOURTH2019 AD
========================================================================

1. SYMBOLS
2. SECOND SUPER SECRET NAME
3,4 FOUR LOCATIONS
5 WE ARE SO POOR
==INTERIM==
7 SUFFERING
8 EMPTINESS & FRIENDSHIP
9 ON LAW
10 SEX
11 SPACE
12 CONCLUSION




CHAPTER1: SYMBOLS

Symbols guide us, but symbols are meaningless. We must collect only the most beautiful symbols and calligraphics and instill our own meanings. If DXM has taught me one thing it is thus: the hourglass, two knives, all superstitions lay powerless before the phrases: I am alive and I have a plan. Symbols are how you and I are relaying, relating, and communicating with each other.Your name: a collection of symbols, but everyone knows it! What if I told you, you could have a second most secret name!

CHAPTER2: SECOND SUPER SECRET NAME

The second secret name is one you carry within yourself. It is how you silently refer to yourself, your thoughts, the unshakeable palace of meaning. Mine is irrelevant to you, and vice versa. Even though you may recognize some familiar esoteric knowledge, I invite you to appreciate
my second name on a strictly aesthetic level, for you could never experience what it takes to create one.

CHAPTER3,4 FOUR LOCATIONS

Choose four locations that at this time you could walk to. These are the four corners of your innate world. Take the time the sensationalize these places. Good. I hope you are serious because you will be walking through this area mentally and physically. Now go to these 4 locations and place your symbol these. Try to be subtle, and don't damage peoples property. Collect symbols purely for their aesthetic value.
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William Fanshit - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:15:28 EST gpD2gVMy No.369179 Reply
>>369178
It's a complicated subject. I think about it a lot. This probably isn't the right place for the discussion, unfortunately.
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Walter Shittingshaw - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:43:18 EST Tw8O+9JO No.369180 Reply
>>369179
I guess not
It just really pisses me off when people on a board for dissociative drugs, you know, the kinds of drugs that some people take for exactly the effect that I'm about to describe, come up with homebrew ideologies, no matter how developed they may be, and then are dismissed offhand as "crazy" by people who are taking drugs from the very same class and are probably doing a similar thing in their own head. It's so fucking stupid. It undermines the kind of exploration that people here are trying to do and although there may be people who take dissociatives to be "more sane" the implicit purpose of using dissociatives is not that.
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Martin Hocklebury - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 03:12:49 EST uyYXwlhF No.369181 Reply
>>369180
if you let the ideas do battle, there's no need for your I to suffer, or to project it onto others. If you get out of the way and let the words flow through you, clarity uncontaminated is expressed.


Salting DXM freebase

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- Mon, 22 Jul 2019 04:55:55 EST IFYdvwKp No.367534
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Anyone here coverted freebase DXM into hcl salt or any other type of salt? Im sick of waiting two hours for freebase to hit.
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Sidney Sindlesog - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:09:05 EST IloN6QLN No.369140 Reply
>>367534
I LOVE your identical miligram scale OP. Keep traveling the omniverse bud.
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Simon Blackspear - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 15:15:09 EST e3sZ83AE No.369143 Reply
DXM takes a long time to hit regardless. HBr takes me an average of 1.5 - 2 hours to hit every time. 2-3 hours isn't much longer. As somebody else stated, when a freebase is taken orally, acid in the stomach converts the freebase to a salt naturally, since that's how you make salts in the first place. That is to say, you put a freebase substance into solution with an acid, and that yields the salts of whatever freebase you started with.

At most I can only see taking the DXM as a freebase increasing the onset time by about ~30-45 minutes, which is entirely consistent with my experiences of DXM HBr taking about a 1.5 - 2 hours to hit. Sometimes if I haven't eaten all day, DXM HBr will hit me within an hour and be in full swing within an hour and a half, but this seems to kind of be a waste of your time and potentially DXM to produce.

DXM takes longer to hit in part because its mechanism of action and the fact that it' s affinity for NMDA as an antagonist is over 10 fold lower than its metabolite DXO's affinity for NMDA. DXM has to undergo first-pass metabolism first to really get any appreciable dissociative effects, and first-pass metabolism takes place when a drug is absorbed in the intestinal lining and is transported through the hepatic portal vein into the liver to be metabolized. It takes a minute before something ingested orally makes its way to the intense, and even longer before it is absorbed (and how fast it is absorbed depends on the substance, whether food was eaten in conjunction with it--typically slowing down absorption but sometimes if something is lipophilic or some shit, then eating some lipid/fat rich foods greatly aid in absorption--as well as the pH of the intense, etc.). Overall, I just don't think you're going to see much improvement for the amount of work and time it is going to take to try and convert your DXM to a salt.

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