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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
sublingual k / dck Ignore Report Reply
David Crommerwater - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:44:46 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364368
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How should i do this most effectively? i've tried sublingual k before and couldn't tell if it was very effective (cos i was already high lol) but the problem was that i salivated too much and that probably ended up in me swallowing much of it. how can i avoid this? what's your method?
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David Crommerwater - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 16:06:10 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364370 Ignore Report Reply
trying dck this way for the first time.. tastes milder than k.. almost like artificial banana flavouring
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David Crommerwater - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 16:08:35 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364371 Ignore Report Reply
>>364370
the amount of saliva in my mouth is becoming unmanageable.. is it bad for your teeth?
time to swallow soon.. never done it orally before..
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David Crommerwater - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 16:19:25 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364372 Ignore Report Reply
>>364371
the tip of my tongue is numbgly.. tingly and numb, u know? i suppose that's a good sign. oh and so are my gums. cool.
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Fucking Necklehore - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 19:05:55 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364375 Ignore Report Reply
felt very little from two ketspoons' full. clearly this didn't work
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Hedda Wurrydale - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 22:55:16 EST ID:41t7iJGi No.364379 Ignore Report Reply
This worked for me with DCK, never tried K sublingual. However if you got DCK cherish that shit
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Fucking Necklehore - Sat, 10 Nov 2018 08:18:17 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364385 Ignore Report Reply
>>364379
It should have worked, I bombed a bit as well and I know DCK is orally active. Testing showed it's probably DCK, but who knows? It's not ket for sure. But I've only felt noticeable effects from snorting it. Suppose I should try again. I didn't happen to be a huge fan of it the first few times, but hey ho. Probably because I was expecting ketamine.
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Nigel Findledat - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 02:36:31 EST ID:DqMZAIgA No.364397 Ignore Report Reply
why would you waste the K like that
just sniff it
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Martin Bottinglock - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:46:06 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364406 Ignore Report Reply
>>364397
Because I have a cold so taking it nasally is unwise and ineffective.
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Isabella Bucklelitch - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:17:53 EST ID:lApc9S+o No.364407 Ignore Report Reply
step 1) smoke a fuckload of weed so that you get bad cottonmouth

step 2) put the k in the top corner of your mouth

that might work better. this is what I do with ketamine
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Lydia Tillingwell - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:22:10 EST ID:IGZV62RF No.364408 Ignore Report Reply
>>364368

I used to take MXE sublingual like this

Worked wonderfully

i miss it
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Martin Bottinglock - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:03:58 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364412 Ignore Report Reply
>>364407

ooh interesting method. wish i had more weed :/
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Thomas Gonderdock - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:30:51 EST ID:V4CNXYH/ No.364441 Ignore Report Reply
>>364407
Just use needles man.
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Charlotte Grandstone - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:22:26 EST ID:wB6RIl/C No.364443 Ignore Report Reply
>>364441

not messing with that shit thanks
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Wesley Hizzlehood - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:22:31 EST ID:h9DjbyIg No.364445 Ignore Report Reply
>>364443
Don't need to inject it into a vein, inject into the muscle. Use a fresh needle every time because you bothered to make an excuse to CVS so you could buy them

Then lay back and let the perfect length trip with great bioavailability take over. I'll never take K any other way honestly.
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Fuck Saffingforth - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:19:25 EST ID:Bg0a/6o8 No.364448 Ignore Report Reply
>>364441

the reason I opted for sublingual is because they were prescription, pharmacy compounded dissolvable lozenges lol. not gonna fuck around trying to extract that. you're definitely right that IM/IV are better RoA's.

nb because not really constructive to the thread
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Thomas Cuffingbanks - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 19:15:38 EST ID:hQ9iC4vI No.364454 Ignore Report Reply
>>364445
like thats any different u junkie fuck
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John Clecklebanks - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 00:40:21 EST ID:97OJAXu2 No.364455 Ignore Report Reply
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>>364454
>like thats any different
it kinda is, though. Veins are tricky, you can miss the vein, sometimes nurses miss a vein, pretty hard to miss a muscle. rate of onset isn't the same etc
> u junkie fuck
just because a needle is involved? There's a reason why people think that and it IS based in reality, but it's not based on ketamine.
in medical contexts ketamine is almost always administered IM/IV, if you obtain pharma K that's almost always how it comes. ketamine's bioavailability through nose/mouth/stomach/butt is very poor.
I would really like to try IM ketamine someday but i get extremely squeamish around needles. So I fuck up my nose with massive lines instead which aint exactly a healthy alternative.
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William Crarringfield - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 07:22:21 EST ID:5zMb+oPa No.364459 Ignore Report Reply
>>364455
needles just make me pretty uncomfortable is all!
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Archie Gimmlemark - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:39:45 EST ID:V4CNXYH/ No.364468 Ignore Report Reply
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Lol I only IV ketamine. Used to be an opi user so it makes sense for me.
That huge initial dissociating rush. The hurry to get the needle out and lie down in bed before everything just... turns into... idk...

I love it!

What's interesting though is that even short-term use will send me into withdrawals that feel just like opi withdrawals, but maybe this makes sense in light of that new study that showed that ketamines anti-depressant effects were attributed to its opioid activity in the brain.
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Phoebe Blackdock - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 04:22:33 EST ID:y760DXn7 No.364473 Ignore Report Reply
>>364368
that image is k af
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Martha Dandletirk - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:59:58 EST ID:xGDhnszP No.364477 Ignore Report Reply
>>364468

I think I do want to try IM at some point, but the problem is I only have access to ket powder; vials are too expensive.

That said, snorting isn't too bad when you do bumps; had a great night last night just keeping the airy feeling going, dancing to psybient and tech house with chill people all just doing their own thang and feeling the vibes. What a night. Ket is amazing at any dose.


>>364473

I did actually draw it when I was on ket. It's much more detailed than what I usually have the patence to do. Low does k gives me hyperfocus like nothing else. Why is ket so perfect lad(ie)s?
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Graham Billingway - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 01:01:57 EST ID:Zy+LM+Fi No.364502 Ignore Report Reply
>>364468
>Ketamine has opioid activity.

Citation needed. Badly. Ketamine has been studied for years it seems really unlikely that no one noticed opioid activity until now. Also, the way ketamine works for depression when used medically only requires dosing every 2-4 weeks. I know of no opioid with a duration that long and a single dose of say, heroin, doesn't have mental health benefits that last weeks.
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Jarvis Drugglebere - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 01:26:07 EST ID:hxxs6Meh No.364503 Ignore Report Reply
>>364502
>Citation needed. Badly. Ketamine has been studied for years it seems really unlikely that no one noticed opioid activity until now.
literally any site that describes the pharmacology of ket. It's been know for a really long time

type "ketamine mu opioid receptor" on google
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Barnaby Nadgecocke - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 06:14:08 EST ID:oLslqd0z No.364507 Ignore Report Reply
>>364503
Show me one study that says that ketamine is a mu opioid agonist. I found a binding profile that says it might be an antagonist at the mu receptor. Ketamine analgesia is not reversible by. Naloxone, many NMDA antagonists"increase the effects of opioid analgesia" but that is not in any way the same as having opioid activity.
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Simon Greenlock - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:03:25 EST ID:Bg0a/6o8 No.364514 Ignore Report Reply
>>364507

he is probably referring to this
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/ketamine-acts-like-an-opioid-researchers-say.html
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Jarvis Drugglebere - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:52:07 EST ID:hxxs6Meh No.364515 Ignore Report Reply
>>364507
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11726430

https://journals.lww.com/anesthesia-analgesia/Fulltext/1998/11000/Ketamine__Teaching_an_Old_Drug_New_Tricks.39.aspx

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2210844014200062

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21692801
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Jarvis Drugglebere - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:58:55 EST ID:hxxs6Meh No.364516 Ignore Report Reply
>>364507
> Ketamine analgesia is not reversible by. Naloxone,

This does nothing to show it's doesn't hit the mu receptor. Only that its not the main cause of the anesthesia, which everyone already knows... You could be in opioid withdrawal then hit a bump of k and you'd feel completely fine just because you feel so distant


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