/dis/ Dissociative Discussion
The package has finally arrrived... What are the dosage recommendations from people who have dabbled in this substance. I have plenty /dis/ exp with DXM,MXE,MXM,DCK, and 3-meo-pcp already crossed off on my hitlist. Also any music recommendations for tonights trip are greatly appreciated.
This shit just arrived for me this week as well and I will be dabbling tonight, from what I've seen it is like a longer lasting ket and the dosing is like 1.5x the equivalent ket dose. I'm gonna be starting out with a couple 50-100mg lines over a few hours. Then maybe go for a hole tomorrow. Happy dissing.
>>365152Forgot to post some recs:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=li805uuas50 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dYFe8Z6gVSIhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hlPNdUNv50gIf you like vidya and like the idea of feeling like you live inside an NES:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zyMGr9VfE
>>365152Well apart from a hangover I had a wonderful time with this substance, nice visuals already at 100mg, looking forward to diving in deeper tonight.https://youtu.be/mbO1Xeo1Gho
>>365172Yeah reporting back it was some fire 🔥. I’d say it’s better than DCK but I’d have to have a little more time with it until I know for sure.Still doesn’t reach MXE’s standards but it’s probably the closest thing yet.
>>365184Good info ty
>>365137sorry I can't answer your question and this off topic, but I am interested in doing different disso chemicals while already having a dis tolerance. Is there a cross tolerance between dissos? For example, if I have a tolerance to DXM, MXE, and DCK, then will it affect my tolerance to 3-MEO-PCP, Ketamine, and N2O? and if yes, then how? I'm thinking that if there is a tolerance to one, then it's a similar tolerance to any other one because they all act on the NMDA receptors.
Tried it last night. It's really goddamn similar to K in terms of sensation. The timeline is the biggest difference, with a slightly longer peak and tail end. That and the decreased potency. It's hard to recommend dosage because my tolerance is so fucked, but I'd treat it in a similar manner. 50mg is probably a good starting place. 100mg will likely be when it starts to get good, and a hole will reside significantly beyond that unless you are small.>>365184I have yet to try this experiment but I have a feeling that the closest thing we could get to MXE these days would be a combo of 2-FK + O-PCE, probably at like a 4:1 ratio. The timeline wouldn't be the same, but I think the effect profile would be remarkably reminiscent.
>>365202One thing I found strange from my second night was the duration actually shortened, could be that I've been dissing a lot lately, but I've never felt any tolerance build when binging K. Still really prefer K tbh, but I will be picking up more of this again at some point.Let us know how you get on with the combo, never got to try MXE so I would like to try and emulate it if I can.
>>365203I don't have any O-PCE at the moment and IDK if/when I plan on getting some. I'm largely just tossing out the idea because it's been on my mind. O-PCE is IMO the closest thing to MXE but it's missing some of the warmth and sedation, with a little bit more of a tendency towards hypomania (which I do like and it's def my fav disso since MXE by far); and I think 2-FK would likely balance that very well.
>>365204If anyone has tried the combo that was around back in the MXE heyday I would love to hear their thoughts.
It's a worse K that lasts forever in my experience. Less mindfuck and more just straight up confusion and amnesia. The first time I did it I snorted a whole gram (what I usually go through of regular K) because my dealer just sold it to me as K. Felt dissociated and retarded for the entirety of the next day. Kept forgetting the password to unlock my PC even though I've been using it for years.
>>365155just want to say thanks for that last NES track rec. it's weird as all hell and i love it
>>365214My man, blast it out a sound system and it'll transport you to a retro future.
>>365213Yeah. Having gone back and forth line for line with K and 2-FK it honestly feels like a cheap chinese knockoff of brand name K. Usually I don't like making comparisons between RCs and their illicit root chem, but this is a weird scenario. It really is a lot like K, but something about it totally sucks, and I can't put my finger on what. Shallow. I think that's what it is. The warmth belies the depth.
>>365254With you guys here, hangovers and doesn't quite have the magic of K for me. K just feels cleaner in comparison. However saying that I do get more visuals on this and I'm still enjoying it. I thought with the duration I would end up using less of this in a weekend, but I still ended up tearing through it to the point there's no reason for me to buy this over K.
>>365255Fuck. How disappointing.
>>365137Why wouldn't you know this before ordering?Anyway it's pretty high. Like in the 100-200mg range.
an erowid experience report i read refered to 2F as "dark ketamine," do you think that's an accurate wy to describe it? i'm mainly a dxm user who's gotten fairly deep into ketamine at times, and i have to say i would absolutely prefer dxm if the physical side effects didnt become so overpowering while approaching a hole dose. i've been looking into DCK and 2F as possible new avenues of exploration and abuse, and i'd like to know how either of the two compare to K/DXM.
>>365595As the thread says, it's a longer lasting K with amnesia/hangovers at higher levels. You can still have fun/hole with it, but if K is easily available to you there's no point imo.
>>365199You are entirely correct, as dissociatives all tend to act on the same receptors, there will be cross tolerance, in the same way that taking a bunch of tryptamines the day before taking LSD will decrease your response to the LSD.
>>365596do you know if 2FDCK is vapeable? i know that dck was although i've never smoked/vaped dissos before. it just seems like if you could toss some 2F in a few ml of propylene glycol/glycerin it would be some straight up futuristic star trek drugs you could take anywhere
>>365599I would be extremely hesitant to vape anything containing fluorine.
>>365599I should have expanded my last post. Oxidized fluorine byproducts of combustion are suuuuuuper bad for you and the chances of making them while attempting to vape 2fdck is fairly high.
>>365603He has a good point like I'm sure it would work and be pretty dope tho cuz I fuckon Vaped and smoked a good little bit of ket, maybe a g, before I thought about it and realized I was in happing chlorine gas with each hit. It got me really awesomely high but I'm sure I did permanent damage lol
>>365604You wouldn't be releasing chlorine gas, but possibly reactive chlorine species which, while not good for you, are less bad than fluorine-containing combustion products.The issue arises when you essentially burn the molecule instead of vaporizing it. Wait wait wait did you actually taste chlorine?
>>365605i can't imagine oxidation being a concern while vaping unless you went crazy stupid high with the temperature, which i doubt you would need to do since these compounds are so potent. i don't know all that much about vape tech tho so obviously take my opinion with at least a few grains of salt(DXM hbr, to pick a specific salt).>>365604im actually curious too, were there any negative health effects you noticed? & how exactly did you vape the ketamine?
>>365137Try o pce with dckMxe 2
>>365606I can't imagine that while vaping people are hitting and never exceeding the vaporization temp, I feel like some burning/decomposition would be inevitable.
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