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Augustus Shittinglock - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 19:35:31 EST ID:Y8Ew2/KU No.365137
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The package has finally arrrived...

What are the dosage recommendations from people who have dabbled in this substance.

I have plenty /dis/ exp with DXM,MXE,MXM,DCK, and 3-meo-pcp already crossed off on my hitlist.

Also any music recommendations for tonights trip are greatly appreciated.
George Dillybotch - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 05:38:51 EST ID:ZXZPCWfc No.365152 Ignore Report Reply
This shit just arrived for me this week as well and I will be dabbling tonight, from what I've seen it is like a longer lasting ket and the dosing is like 1.5x the equivalent ket dose. I'm gonna be starting out with a couple 50-100mg lines over a few hours. Then maybe go for a hole tomorrow. Happy dissing.
George Dillybotch - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 09:17:54 EST ID:ZXZPCWfc No.365155 Ignore Report Reply
Forgot to post some recs:

If you like vidya and like the idea of feeling like you live inside an NES:
Jack Brandleshaw - Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:08:40 EST ID:jtJ28lSt No.365172 Ignore Report Reply
Well apart from a hangover I had a wonderful time with this substance, nice visuals already at 100mg, looking forward to diving in deeper tonight.

Esther Blytheshaw - Sat, 16 Mar 2019 21:51:33 EST ID:Y8Ew2/KU No.365184 Ignore Report Reply
Yeah reporting back it was some fire 🔥. I’d say it’s better than DCK but I’d have to have a little more time with it until I know for sure.

Still doesn’t reach MXE’s standards but it’s probably the closest thing yet.
Betsy Pellywill - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 07:09:32 EST ID:S8V3jqyX No.365195 Ignore Report Reply
Good info ty
Phyllis Hozzlefield - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 11:51:01 EST ID:uTC1IJkn No.365199 Ignore Report Reply
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sorry I can't answer your question and this off topic, but I am interested in doing different disso chemicals while already having a dis tolerance. Is there a cross tolerance between dissos? For example, if I have a tolerance to DXM, MXE, and DCK, then will it affect my tolerance to 3-MEO-PCP, Ketamine, and N2O? and if yes, then how? I'm thinking that if there is a tolerance to one, then it's a similar tolerance to any other one because they all act on the NMDA receptors.
William Worthingforth - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:25:55 EST ID:h6Wnkt/7 No.365202 Ignore Report Reply
Tried it last night. It's really goddamn similar to K in terms of sensation. The timeline is the biggest difference, with a slightly longer peak and tail end. That and the decreased potency. It's hard to recommend dosage because my tolerance is so fucked, but I'd treat it in a similar manner. 50mg is probably a good starting place. 100mg will likely be when it starts to get good, and a hole will reside significantly beyond that unless you are small.

I have yet to try this experiment but I have a feeling that the closest thing we could get to MXE these days would be a combo of 2-FK + O-PCE, probably at like a 4:1 ratio. The timeline wouldn't be the same, but I think the effect profile would be remarkably reminiscent.
Hannah Biddlemick - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:59:45 EST ID:+t3wchlt No.365203 Ignore Report Reply
One thing I found strange from my second night was the duration actually shortened, could be that I've been dissing a lot lately, but I've never felt any tolerance build when binging K. Still really prefer K tbh, but I will be picking up more of this again at some point.

Let us know how you get on with the combo, never got to try MXE so I would like to try and emulate it if I can.
Fuck Mankinlitch - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 16:36:50 EST ID:B3uXpacN No.365204 Ignore Report Reply
I don't have any O-PCE at the moment and IDK if/when I plan on getting some. I'm largely just tossing out the idea because it's been on my mind. O-PCE is IMO the closest thing to MXE but it's missing some of the warmth and sedation, with a little bit more of a tendency towards hypomania (which I do like and it's def my fav disso since MXE by far); and I think 2-FK would likely balance that very well.
Fuck Mankinlitch - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 16:38:10 EST ID:B3uXpacN No.365205 Ignore Report Reply
If anyone has tried the combo that was around back in the MXE heyday I would love to hear their thoughts.
Alice Chosslechot - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 23:04:50 EST ID:G93SOa5A No.365213 Ignore Report Reply
It's a worse K that lasts forever in my experience. Less mindfuck and more just straight up confusion and amnesia. The first time I did it I snorted a whole gram (what I usually go through of regular K) because my dealer just sold it to me as K. Felt dissociated and retarded for the entirety of the next day. Kept forgetting the password to unlock my PC even though I've been using it for years.
Charles Buzzson - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 23:49:53 EST ID:GjMzrDGz No.365214 Ignore Report Reply
just want to say thanks for that last NES track rec. it's weird as all hell and i love it
Phyllis Fonningdock - Tue, 19 Mar 2019 06:43:56 EST ID:ZXZPCWfc No.365225 Ignore Report Reply
My man, blast it out a sound system and it'll transport you to a retro future.
Nathaniel Blatherforth - Thu, 21 Mar 2019 00:57:08 EST ID:h6Wnkt/7 No.365254 Ignore Report Reply
Yeah. Having gone back and forth line for line with K and 2-FK it honestly feels like a cheap chinese knockoff of brand name K. Usually I don't like making comparisons between RCs and their illicit root chem, but this is a weird scenario. It really is a lot like K, but something about it totally sucks, and I can't put my finger on what.

Shallow. I think that's what it is. The warmth belies the depth.
Barnaby Gottingdutch - Thu, 21 Mar 2019 05:53:43 EST ID:ZXZPCWfc No.365255 Ignore Report Reply
With you guys here, hangovers and doesn't quite have the magic of K for me. K just feels cleaner in comparison. However saying that I do get more visuals on this and I'm still enjoying it.

I thought with the duration I would end up using less of this in a weekend, but I still ended up tearing through it to the point there's no reason for me to buy this over K.
Beatrice Duckhood - Tue, 26 Mar 2019 02:35:55 EST ID:+6PzfwH4 No.365450 Ignore Report Reply
Fuck. How disappointing.
Ebenezer Gapperhone - Tue, 26 Mar 2019 05:27:32 EST ID:2/x95mjo No.365459 Ignore Report Reply
Why wouldn't you know this before ordering?
Anyway it's pretty high. Like in the 100-200mg range.
Oliver Suttingnure - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 10:00:50 EST ID:nE08s+pN No.365595 Ignore Report Reply
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an erowid experience report i read refered to 2F as "dark ketamine," do you think that's an accurate wy to describe it? i'm mainly a dxm user who's gotten fairly deep into ketamine at times, and i have to say i would absolutely prefer dxm if the physical side effects didnt become so overpowering while approaching a hole dose. i've been looking into DCK and 2F as possible new avenues of exploration and abuse, and i'd like to know how either of the two compare to K/DXM.
Basil Pittforth - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 10:23:43 EST ID:X+aZ5wkp No.365596 Ignore Report Reply
As the thread says, it's a longer lasting K with amnesia/hangovers at higher levels. You can still have fun/hole with it, but if K is easily available to you there's no point imo.
Cyril Blucklegold - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 10:24:36 EST ID:wWsbMs/7 No.365597 Ignore Report Reply

You are entirely correct, as dissociatives all tend to act on the same receptors, there will be cross tolerance, in the same way that taking a bunch of tryptamines the day before taking LSD will decrease your response to the LSD.
Oliver Suttingnure - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:06:07 EST ID:nE08s+pN No.365599 Ignore Report Reply
do you know if 2FDCK is vapeable? i know that dck was although i've never smoked/vaped dissos before. it just seems like if you could toss some 2F in a few ml of propylene glycol/glycerin it would be some straight up futuristic star trek drugs you could take anywhere
Cyril Blucklegold - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:27:25 EST ID:wWsbMs/7 No.365602 Ignore Report Reply
I would be extremely hesitant to vape anything containing fluorine.
Cyril Blucklegold - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:49:38 EST ID:wWsbMs/7 No.365603 Ignore Report Reply
I should have expanded my last post. Oxidized fluorine byproducts of combustion are suuuuuuper bad for you and the chances of making them while attempting to vape 2fdck is fairly high.
Hannah Mummerwetch - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:58:02 EST ID:fFkME5mS No.365604 Ignore Report Reply
He has a good point like I'm sure it would work and be pretty dope tho cuz I fuckon Vaped and smoked a good little bit of ket, maybe a g, before I thought about it and realized I was in happing chlorine gas with each hit. It got me really awesomely high but I'm sure I did permanent damage lol
Cyril Blucklegold - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 12:17:31 EST ID:wWsbMs/7 No.365605 Ignore Report Reply
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You wouldn't be releasing chlorine gas, but possibly reactive chlorine species which, while not good for you, are less bad than fluorine-containing combustion products.The issue arises when you essentially burn the molecule instead of vaporizing it.

Wait wait wait did you actually taste chlorine?
Oliver Suttingnure - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 12:36:06 EST ID:nE08s+pN No.365606 Ignore Report Reply
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i can't imagine oxidation being a concern while vaping unless you went crazy stupid high with the temperature, which i doubt you would need to do since these compounds are so potent. i don't know all that much about vape tech tho so obviously take my opinion with at least a few grains of salt(DXM hbr, to pick a specific salt).
im actually curious too, were there any negative health effects you noticed? & how exactly did you vape the ketamine?
Henry Grandwater - Sat, 30 Mar 2019 10:18:39 EST ID:UQdZ7A9H No.365623 Ignore Report Reply
Try o pce with dck

Mxe 2
David Brookridge - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:01:05 EST ID:1VMyVVwK No.365643 Ignore Report Reply
I can't imagine that while vaping people are hitting and never exceeding the vaporization temp, I feel like some burning/decomposition would be inevitable.

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