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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

3-MEO-2'-OXO-PCPr, AKA Methoxpropylamine, MXPr just hit the market

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- Sat, 05 Oct 2019 11:09:50 EST 5Dag7N+G No.369042
File: 1570288190379.png -(6397B / 6.25KB, 228x244) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 3-MEO-2'-OXO-PCPr, AKA Methoxpropylamine, MXPr just hit the market
I've got a fair bit of good news for my fellow /dis/sociates, a trusted EU vendor just put up a listing for MXPr, the long awaited MXE analogue, and orders should be going out fairly soon, a few people on (r)eddit have already placed orders for it and a couple people have received samples and have already posted trip reports.

I'm beyond stoked, the reports so far are very promising, very similar potency to MXE, duration is very similar as well, maybe slightly longer. Here's the two trip reports I've found:

https://www.eddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/daiwoh/methoxpropamine_mxpr_aka_3meo2oxopcpr_launch/ (add an r to the link, 420chan's cat planet is annoying)

https://forum.drug.cafe/Thread-MXPr

HXE (Hydroxetamine, 3-HO-2'-OxO-PCE) appears to have also been synthed, but it's not available yet, though hopefully it will be soon. There's even less information on it than MXPr, but if the reports are to be believed it appears to be a bit less potent than MXPr (and MXE, assuming the potency of MXPr is roughly the same), but much more sedating and with a more opioid-like body high. HXE is one of the active metabolites of MXE so technically anyone who's done MXE has already sampled HXE, but it's unclear how much HXE is produced from a dose of MXE or how much it contributes to the experience. I have really high hopes for this one as well due to its relation to MXE and the fact that it's analogous to Hydroxynorketamine, which is believed to be responsible for a lot of Ketamine's antidepressant effects, however if the reports are to be believed it's a much more potent dissociative itself, Hydroxynorketamine has little effect as an NMDAr antagonist.

And one final thing to add to this wonderful list of good news, there's a rumor that the lab responsible for all of this is also looking into synthesizing Deschloroketamine since it's legal where they're located, so there's a chance that DCK may be making a come back at some point in the future. Take this with a grain of salt though as it's just a rumor.

The future of ACH's is looking bright boys! I'm planning on getting a gram of MXPr at some point in the near future, so if all goes well I'll report back with a trip report of my own when I'm able to. Just thought I'd pass this information on.
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Matilda Cluzzlewell - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 11:14:04 EST 5Dag7N+G No.369043 Reply
>>369042

I just realized I didn't need to type most of that out as a lot of that info is in the link I posted lel. Oh well, I'm excited/tired as fuck and afterglowing on 3-MEO-PCP. nb
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Matilda Cluzzlewell - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 11:38:53 EST 5Dag7N+G No.369045 Reply
>>369044

No word on it yet, but the listing just went up so give it a few days, I'm sure we'll hear something.
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Clara Clayham - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 13:02:43 EST IloN6QLN No.369046 Reply
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>>369042
I love you niggas I was looking for exactly this. Saw t and was debating on buying but wanted someone else to be the Guinea pigs before me.


Thanks brother
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Matilda Cluzzlewell - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 14:58:32 EST 5Dag7N+G No.369047 Reply
>>369046

No problem, man! Also keep in mind that there's a chance that these trip reports might just be vendor hype, I'm admittedly not 100% convinced that these trip reports are legit, it's still too early to say for sure. If they are though, hoo boy we're in for a good time, been too damn long since I've had a good M-hole.
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Reuben Brarringwin - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 22:43:43 EST XCZt2bXL No.369052 Reply
Wondering also if it's vendor hype. And if it's not... hoooo boooyyyy
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Sophie Dablingstock - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 04:17:56 EST biznmpTU No.369055 Reply
I'm gonna keep my eye on this one. I would be over the moon excited if there was something even CLOSELY resembling the effects of MXE. I've been enjoying 2-FDCK but its too so damn expensive and only lasts maybe 2 hours before it's over. Hopefully this compound isn't too hard to acquire materials for and produce. Im not gonna get my hopes up yet but this is promising news!
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Simon Bubberworth - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 06:35:56 EST JaOkHooy No.369057 Reply
>>369055

Just judging by the price, it doesn't seem like it's too expensive to produce, especially considering this is the first batch so prices are expected to be a bit higher. 3-MEO-PCP was stupid expensive when it first showed up, now it's stupid cheap and was even cheaper, and this stuff isn't much more expensive than MXE was when it first came out. Once more is made and more labs are able to produce it the price should lower quite a bit, assuming it compares favorably to MXE. I'm assuming the biggest hurdle was getting down the synthesis, now that that is figured out it should be smooth sailing once it catches on, but I'm just speculating.
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Martin Cittingworth - Tue, 08 Oct 2019 02:26:03 EST 4YwTc5p4 No.369060 Reply
>>369042
I'm aware this is an arylcyclohexamine but if it compares to the 2C-E / 2C-P dynamic your in for some fun.
>very similar potency to MXE, duration is very similar as well, maybe slightly longer.
Sounds just like the same dynamic.
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Wesley Nicklehall - Tue, 08 Oct 2019 06:29:09 EST m+yB51OC No.369062 Reply
>>369060

Huh, interesting take on it. I really doubt the structure activity relationship works that way considering they target entirely different receptors but now that you mention it I really hope it does lol.
User is currently banned from all boards
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Edward Clecklepore - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 19:24:06 EST 4YwTc5p4 No.369113 Reply
>>369062
Agreed. I would be interested once more reports come in if it holds true. it would be interesting to see if there is a link between duration and the length of the carbon chain. Despite targeting different receptor sites. Might possibly mean something for neuropharmacology. Also for the sake of it remove the Propyl chain, keep it as a methyl chain or just remove it down to NH2 and add 2 more methoxy groups to the 4,5 position.
3,4,5-MeO-2-OXO-PCM
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Mon, 14 Oct 2019 12:18:37 EST ORA7mMyF No.369116 Reply
>>369113
I'd like to see more 4-MeO subs. 4-MeO-PCP was great. I have no idea what 3,4,5 would do. I'm not sure you can extrapolate phenethylamines to ACHAs like that, but I'm no pharmacologist.
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Lillian Bittingdock - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:13:32 EST TheX+3Q3 No.369132 Reply
>>369116

I agree, 4-MEO-PCE would be interesting to see, as well as 4-MEO-2'-OXO-PCE.
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Phineas Cundlebitch - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 08:46:33 EST NsmbLoqP No.369136 Reply
>>369044
Doubt there will be domestic vendors, but you can easily order from some NL/EU vendors that will most likely make it, I have some tracked MXPr from NL coming right now and It just made it through customs.
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Sidney Sindlesog - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:04:56 EST IloN6QLN No.369138 Reply
>>369137
Domestic vendors selling as same price as EU vendors...

Hmmmm

Maybe its just me but I don't see how they are making any markup on the product. Unless the main provider of the chemical is selling way under and the 75/gram price is already including markup. Thus the EU sellers would be buying @ around 25-50 a gram. Most likely around the 30-35/gram in my opinion.
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Hedda Fanfuck - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 01:56:16 EST vGkUz4FQ No.369142 Reply
just waiting for my pack to land boys.
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Fuck Brullernutch - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 20:38:09 EST WMrUwpGX No.369149 Reply
mine should be here tomorrow, excited
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Cedric Commerbon - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 08:30:15 EST eF2CJ0pK No.369161 Reply
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its here, might try it tomorrow
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Archie Chenkinhood - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 12:30:45 EST l2nah8fE No.369164 Reply
>>369054
  1. Not cheap and I have to abandon my entire life to do so, as well as obtain a passport
  2. UK is a good hub for ketamine
  3. Where?
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stoned chocobo - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 18:18:33 EST Kn362rnJ No.369168 Reply
dude i was having such a shitty day then i saw this. my dreams are awakening.

p.s does any one know whats up with bitstamps credit card purchases being down? not logical to make 30$ deposit fees every fucking time for bank wire
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Archie Chenkinhood - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 18:53:08 EST l2nah8fE No.369169 Reply
>>369167
Because they were born there?
Did I skip the loading screen or something where you just get to pick where your shitty life takes place?
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Thomas Wagglewut - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:40:26 EST AlzlGlA2 No.369177 Reply
>>369167
It seems like MXPr is hard to get in Canada too, its technically illegal here aswell because its an anologue of mxe thats scheduled

Ive nee trying to find a way to get it, dont wanna order it overseas, kinda bait if i remember correctly.

Note the last time ive ordered over seas was in MXE's prime
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Barnaby Bevingnadge - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 16:21:25 EST GxpSBysE No.369192 Reply
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Guys its the bomb get it if you can
it is more stimmy than MXE but it is like its cousin
even the the scent and taste is similar
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Graham Bladdledock - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 15:34:57 EST wF+WvPLR No.369200 Reply
Chinese vendors tell me they wont be producing MXPr because it is banned.
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Nell Honeyfoot - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 16:36:11 EST Y6C3x3m+ No.369201 Reply
Does anyone know if there are any vendors which still ship to UK? I stopped my RC experimentation back when the UK ban hit.

I would definately risk bringing in some of this if I could get one more taste of something close to MXE though.
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Nell Honeyfoot - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 16:37:02 EST Y6C3x3m+ No.369202 Reply
>>369201
btw don't ban me, not asking for a source just if anyone has got RCs into the UK since ban via clearnet vendors/
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Cedric Hidgestone - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 23:18:26 EST IloN6QLN No.369205 Reply
>>369201
doubt it. Every place ive seen specifies no UK. Your best bet would be DNM.
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Matilda Sipperhot - Wed, 23 Oct 2019 14:15:44 EST ZhpfHNUw No.369211 Reply
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This stuff doesn't compare to MXE at all. It's the coldest dissociative I have tried yet, besides salvia divinorum. Little euphoria, mostly dissociation, not my cup of tea.

next please
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Nell Numblestut - Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:41:50 EST WMrUwpGX No.369212 Reply
>>369208
yes, a little 2 hours ago actually
its quite nice, gave me some nice warmth and slight euphoria at 15mg snorted
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Cedric Hidgestone - Wed, 23 Oct 2019 19:28:06 EST IloN6QLN No.369214 Reply
>>369211
Thanks for your review homie. I got a small pack on the way. if this is true i'm glad i didnt get a bigger one.
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asdasd - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 05:24:12 EST mQV5dsHO No.369229 Reply
>>369212
lol i get same batch and 30-40mg no effects...your stuff have small or taste?
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asdasd - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 05:34:41 EST mQV5dsHO No.369230 Reply
>>369212
can you upload photo from 15mg line please. i dont have precise scale at time and need eyeballing...
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Hannah Shittingfoot - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 08:44:33 EST IloN6QLN No.369233 Reply
>>369232
No 15 mg is probably about that big. Don’t look at the space just inside the arrows include the arrows as well and it’s pretty accurate. 15mg is nothing
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Nigel Chobbernet - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 22:25:45 EST PcjrxYyi No.369250 Reply
>>369236

Get a scale man, they're like $20. You can't weigh anything based on how it looks and you're going to end up fucking yourself over if you keep trying to.
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guardian_angel !LhwrleQFRU!!fAsQkk7h - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 03:35:27 EST cveREHW+ No.369281 Reply
Gonna wait for HXE I think. The opioid-feeling was what made me prefer MXE over ANYTHING really.
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Jack !fXGyYTYKEM - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 07:07:32 EST +xZphPUt No.369283 Reply
>>369281
I agree. That, and it seemed to leave me more cognitive ability at mid/higher doses than a lot of other dissociatives (being able to write coherently - or better, with the lateral thinking - was nice). I haven't done dissociatives in a couple of years, though (job, life, availability of good ones), which is why I find myself reading /dis/ lately. I think I'll try this one out if there's a reasonable source and see where it goes.
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Hugh Fushham - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:10:09 EST Y6C3x3m+ No.369299 Reply
>>369283
did you ever get that feeling on MXE that you just had perfect control? For example I rolled a cig really easily and i felt like my handwriting was improved for some reason.

When in reality I couldn't walk, I had one eye clamped shut my cig was probably a mess and my handwriting looked like a spider was dipped in ink and then dipped in MXE and let loose on the paper.
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Jarvis Drebberville - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 00:48:19 EST wZvF5Dzx No.369301 Reply
Without sourcing can anyone guide me on how I can I find a non-darknet vendor for this? Been out of the RC game for a while and it seems r/RCSources has been banned so I'm kinda lost.
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Martin Bardham - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:16:59 EST Y6C3x3m+ No.369307 Reply
>>369301
Go back to using a search engine to find them.
Try shipping as a keyword and the chemical name and stuff.
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Polly Sandermadge - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 14:50:31 EST IloN6QLN No.369314 Reply
>>369310
Thanks for the heads up even though you may get banned forthis
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Ebenezer Fibberfoot - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 14:52:07 EST +t3wchlt No.369315 Reply
>>369310
>fake stuff
reptiles are saying it's their retail site tho?
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LoLFeDeXsUx - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:44:14 EST uApWECP+ No.369317 Reply
I got some MXPr, and yeah I don't like it at all. Not even close to MXE. It's pleasant for about 30 minutes once you start coming up. Then, like a light switch, you crash down to a level where you are definitely still fucked up, but you almost feel baseline. Which is dangerous. For those 30 minutes it's definitely "warm" but once you crash, it's a horrible cold and clinical feeling, just no fun. I was trying to watch movies/shows (my favorite disso past time when solo) for the immersion, and it definitely works, but once I got pulled out I just had no interest anymore and redosing doesn't even really bring it back.

The first night I blacked out after I redosed (40mg IM initially, then another 50mg IM about 45 minutes into it) and came to saying "WHAT THE FUCK" with my computer tower laying sideways and my router and monitor leaning up against the wall, inches away from disaster. I have no idea what the fuck I did. So you're definitely able to be moving around while in blackout mode.

Every attempt I made after this put me in the same damn horrible headspace within 30 minutes. I also had an "afterglow" that lasted a full 3 days before I could think 100% think straight, and was in a really bad mood the whole time. This stuff sucks.

I flushed the last 500mg of it, it's just not worth it.
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George Clorringfurk - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 19:12:28 EST jtJ28lSt No.369319 Reply
>>369317
Whilst I agree there's an abrupt change after 30mins I think YMMV with the plateau phase, I found it to be an incredibly peaceful stoned feel. I figured set and setting played a roll in this, but you said you were doing the usual things you like on dis so I'm not sure now. I also haven't tried to redose in that stage, I wait a full few hours to hit baseline again before rerolling.

Overall I like it, it packs a short punch of a hole while using a lot less than ket. I never tried MXE so this could be why I like it a lot. Just hope it gets cheaper.
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Lydia Dennermore - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 07:04:56 EST +t3wchlt No.369325 Reply
>>369324
they do indeed and if you visit that place you would know what i mean
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Lydia Dennermore - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 07:12:53 EST +t3wchlt No.369326 Reply
>>369324
just realised you didn't mention what i was thinking of in your op, my bad, so many names to keep track of
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LoLFeDeXsUx - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 07:33:54 EST uApWECP+ No.369327 Reply
>>369042

Answering the question if I titrated, yes I did. I always do an allergy test (1-2mg when I first got it nasally) and tested 20mg nasally that night, was super meh. Didn't even get the immersion style feelings, just cold crappy dissociation, but I could tell there would be more to it at a high dose. I didn't even count it as a session it was so lame, just went to bed after a couple hours of feeling numb and dumb.

I IMed 40mg because I have and always have had a high disso tolerance, and going off a ton of reports I'd found around various forums since it first came out. This produced a decent experience for those 30 mins, when it crashed me down to earth. The redose was on the dumb side, as I said I was left feeling almost "sober" but mildly wired and dissoed, but in reality I was still super fucked up. Could barely read my scale, though I can confirm it was 50mg going by what was left the next day. The blackout must have only lasted a minute or 2, as well, so I figure that was pretty much my "hole" and I just don't remember the trip. Unfortunately you obviously can move around during the hole on this one, which is not the best thing.

Really it was just the overall tone of the trip (dark and cold as fuck after the initial phase) and the super long after"glow" (afterburnout) that turns me off from this. And, I'm sorry, unless others are getting completely different effects this is miles away from MXE. Not even it's cousin. Nope.
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Lydia Dennermore - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:37:13 EST +t3wchlt No.369328 Reply
>>369327
There has been a range of reports from this substance with some people saying there are similarities between the two, with MXPr being more sedating, but ultimately people are looking for different things out of dis and depending on that it can be either wildly different or similar. I feel that taking this with the desire to achieve the MXE experience is clouding a lot of people's reactions as well.
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Lydia Sobblefutch - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:13:57 EST IloN6QLN No.369329 Reply
>>369315
Reptiles only put who buys fromthem and resells they dont know if the site scams. I know at least two on there that scam
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LoLFeDeXsUx - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 17:29:49 EST uApWECP+ No.369332 Reply
>>369328

Very true, the MXPr I got came in an identical baggy with the same black marker/handwriting as most, so I'm pretty confident it's the same as most if not all active reports. I'm a huge disso fan (Did a TON of MXE back in the day, many different batches, as well as DCK, unfortunately including the last fake batches that were allegedly O-PCE) and have pretty much always gotten positive effects. Even with the "cold and clinical" compounds I generally had a good time overall.

But this stuff... I just don't like it. Completely subjective, but if you call MXE or (good) DCK a positive glowy experience overall, this stuff is the polar opposite for me. If that initial 30 minutes lasted way longer and it didn't have such a crappy comedown (for me) I'd be singing a different tune, my only complaint for the comeup phase is it is more confusing overall, harder to focus on whatever crazy dissoverse you're exploring to full effect.

It just pisses me off. I'm talking the actual effects, it's like it flips an emotional switch in my brain to "pissed off at the world" after you come crashing down and then for quite a long time after. Last time I dosed was Saturday and I'm just now where I'd say I'm back to 100% normal mentally. Could just be unfortunate and it's just how it interacts with my brain chemistry, for all I know I've blown dissos for myself for the rest of my life and that's why I reacted so poorly. But even then... 30 mins followed by immedate comedown is just not what I'm looking for. So eh... thumbs down on this disso. Hope they come through with the real deal DCK soon!
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realchemsofficial - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 06:28:48 EST OuN4IrFV No.369335 Reply
This customer has refused our offer of HNMR results. Right now there is only ONE batch of MXPr that Lizard Labs made and sold in small amounts to about 5 vendors. We purchased this and sent to the guy. He has been rude from the start and there is nothing we can sway. He instantly emailed saying he was going to ruin our rep before even starting dialogue. He has been the ONLY customer to complain out of hundreds who bought this product.
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realchemsofficial - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:56:14 EST OuN4IrFV No.369336 Reply
>>369310
you are pretty ridiculous, you know there is one batch and you wouldnt even see the lab/HNMR results!
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Albert Dillerway - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 23:56:58 EST vGkUz4FQ No.369346 Reply
>>369336

i went through 425mg of the stuff IV'd, but it was always done while on 2f or its afterglow, or done more 2f IV'd afterwards, so it's hard to quantify the effects. need more trials while not comboing. but the combo was amazing. i haven't reached the state of bliss i reached since MXE in 2013.
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Henry Dezzleville - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 01:55:33 EST 2cFbDpry No.369350 Reply
Boy I sure wish I knew what this "trusted" vendor was.
I guess I'll use my old vendor and see if they aren't still getting seized at customs.
Probably can't even do it anymore since I'm on SSRIs.
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asdasd - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 06:41:08 EST ea+IJAKP No.369351 Reply
>>369336
please stop your bullshit. your stuff is inactive shit. who cares your fake NMR?
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Jarvis Ginderfuck - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 06:57:48 EST igFmluEu No.369352 Reply
>>369350

The vendor in question was mentioned in this thread, they're invite only at the moment though. Not going to go into it further though as it's not really necessary and I don't feel like breaking the rules.
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Jarvis Ginderfuck - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 07:42:19 EST igFmluEu No.369354 Reply
>>369351

Without getting into sourcing, the second vendor you mentioned doesn't send fake shit, they're a very trustworthy vendor with lots of good reviews and everything I've sampled from them has been top quality (3-MEO-PCP, 3-HO-PCP, 4-FMA and 3-FPM to be exact, hopefully will be trying their 3-MEO-PCE soon too) and indeed it all comes from the same batch as far as I can tell from the research I've done on it.

A lot of people have had plenty of success with this batch of MXPr as there are plenty of trip reports of people enjoying the compound and not having any issues with it. Everyone reacts differently though, everyone has different body chemistry and different levels of enzymes which determine how various compounds are metabolized which greatly affects how they'll react to any given compound, then there's tolerance and body weight to take into account. There are tons of reasons why you may not have found the compound enjoyable or even active at all, maybe you did get an inactive compound, though I doubt it considering I've heard nothing but good things about both vendors you've mentioned and it all comes from the same place, though to be fair I have no experience with the first vendor.

Out of curiosity though what was your dose/ROA? Tolerance? Any other drugs you've been taking like benzos which can dampen or outright block the effects of dissociatives?

>>369327

This is the guy that asked that question. That's interesting, it could just be a difference of body chemistry, for example I don't find 3-HO-PCP very enjoyable, I find it to often be dysphoric and it puts me in an awful, depressed mood once it wears off or sometimes even during the trip, while plenty of other people find it amazing (though to be fair I've had some amaaazing holes on it, the day after just was not worth it though).

To be entirely fair though, I don't think you would have blacked out if you had been more careful with dosing, 90mg IM'ed total seems excessive from what I've seen, a lot of times people assume their tolerance is going to play a larger role than it really does and that ends up putting them in trouble, dosing higher than they really should. But it's whatever now though, don't really blame you for not wanting to research further with this compound. Still very interested to try it though, might give it a shot once some domestic vendors stock it.

Long ass post, meh, don't feel like editing it down.
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Basil Mallershaw - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 15:52:55 EST TezKaKoj No.369360 Reply
if you have some can you please post more pictures like of the powder poured out? I'm gathering information on what it looks like. could be telling if the people who have good or poor experiences have a visibly different product.
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Archie Cugglesadge - Sat, 02 Nov 2019 07:52:44 EST jtJ28lSt No.369367 Reply
>>369360
You can see from the pic in this thread it's very clumpy, would pretty much look the same poured out. Once you break up the clumpiness it looks kinda like light snow and appears to be much bigger in quantity than the actual weight of it.
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LoLFeDeXsUx - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 06:00:15 EST uApWECP+ No.369379 Reply
>>369354

Yeah, I agree it was too much for my first real MXPr experience. Only excuse is I was in that weird "feel just buzzed yet you're still fucked" phase.

Just posting again to warn people that this stuff is very much capable of putting you in blackout mode with not that high doses compared to many, especially MXE. I never blacked out on (real) MXE and I abused the shit out of it. In fact the only other disso I've truly blacked out on was DCK that was allegedly actually O-PCE. The infamous "Pretzel Salt" batch that fucked up a lot of people.

Judging by my brief blackout and a couple other reports, you are fully capable of moving around and doing who knows what while you're out. So yeah... careful guys, it sneaks up on you quick. I do feel it's very possible if I had done just a bit less I would have had a better experience and maybe even not have disposed of the last 500mg.

Still wish the first "phase" of the experience lasted longer, though... but then again I absolutely loved the super long experiences of DXM (before I lost the magic many years ago) and true MXE and DCK, so YMMV. Someone described it as the "coke of dissos" and that's pretty true for me, 30 mins of having a blast followed by a long unpleasant comedown with a healthy dash of "More!". Just be super careful with that "More!"
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Barnaby Gudgefield - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 08:48:19 EST jtJ28lSt No.369380 Reply
>>369379
I still like the post-rush disassociation, it's like 2F-DCK which I found lackluster compared to K, but I can enjoy it. However the comedown is a real downside, after a 3 day binge I felt like I wasted the next 2 days counting down the hours combined with a need to take it again. I've abused K and PCP in the past without feeling like its hard to take a break when responsibilities come around, but I couldn't do that with this.

It's not even the most euphoric come up, it's just an incredibly warm rush that I can only compare to high doses of K with less confusion. Are there any dis you'd recommend that can make the initial phase last longer, but are less moreish? Still not tried DCK or O-PCE.
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realchemsofficial - Tue, 05 Nov 2019 04:19:22 EST d1PkLyt2 No.369408 Reply
>>369351 you have no idea and your pathetic tirades will not serve any purpose. We bought the batch from Lizard, the same as every other vendor, we tested it and they did too. You are the only whiney person who ordered this out of hundreds of people. we have sold it like hot cakes. out of thousands of customers (13k to be precise) you are literally one of the most rude and indignant..
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Kerflap !HUZ.4c6SGE - Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:10:34 EST SOA+twxI No.369411 Reply
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>>369408

So lemme get this straight... Your either trrc or the other one previously mentioned and you actually come onto here? If that's so, why? Do you look for reviews? Are you a connoisseur of compounds yourself? I dont want to ask anything or pry too much and ask something that might ruin business but im really interested if this is the case.
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George Sollybick - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:47:44 EST KrcJnvPd No.369433 Reply
>>369057
I bet they are just hiking the price up because they know the demand is high. Look at 2-FDCK, prices vary from like 30-70 a g and people still buy it. The only thing that justifies the price difference would be multiple washes for purity i would imagine.
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William Chunkinstone - Sat, 09 Nov 2019 06:27:28 EST DbyDwnHo No.369451 Reply
i keep forgetting to try this shit, is it good?
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LoLFeDeXsUx - Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:44:56 EST uApWECP+ No.369452 Reply
>>369451

Reports are all over the place from what I've seen. Personally I hated the stuff, just had a negative vibe for me (key words, everyone's different) and I legit wish I had never even tried it. Good dissos are my favorite substances of them all, and I'm a long time opiate addict, if that tells you anything.

Even more than feeling pissed off at the world for multiple days afterward and feeling somewhat brain damaged at the same time, I hated that the good part of the experience only lasts 30-45 minutes, and you go straight from 100-0. At least that's how it feels... you're still majorly fucked up but just not in a good way for a while. Ketamine at least makes me feel great for a good while after the hole wears off, not this stuff. Just cold numb dissociation, with scattered thoughts galore.

Could be totally different for you, of course, but that was my experience with it. Wouldn't recommend, but I will say some people seem to enjoy it.
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Samuel Claggleville - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 14:53:46 EST z8mx3yFb No.369483 Reply
Imagine vendors had mod privileges on this site. Shit would be fucked.
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Ebenezer Gembleworth - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:34:38 EST DbyDwnHo No.369576 Reply
>>369452
wtf??? the awesome aftereffects of dissociatives are half the joy
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Isabella Murdridge - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 19:29:20 EST LunBgFTO No.369604 Reply
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Hey friends!

It seems like MXPr (and O-PCE) are only available out of Europe right now. I live in the USA and have never ordered from overseas.

How likely is it that a 1 gram to 5 grams is caught or confiscated by US customs? I don't want to waste my money if it will probably just get thrown out, and especially if it gets me in trouble (even though these chemicals aren't scheduled in the US.)
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Eugene Duddlestone - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:34:24 EST mgMw6HAE No.369606 Reply
>>369604
you'll be fine. just don't order a shitload of something blatantly illegal.
2 gram 3HOPCP from NL packs have landed safely for me.
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Stoned chocobo - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 23:07:22 EST Kn362rnJ No.369623 Reply
>>369604
I've got my first pack just now from netherworlds and it was so desxrete I almost threw it out as junk mail. But the issue is that the quality of the 2 oxo pce and MXPr just doesn't add up. I got 2 oxo pce before for a much larger price mind you, but that 2 oxo I could hole off 20mg. And it would be Soo clean. This I do 40mg of and it feels dirty but wonkey but not a hole. Smokey's smoking up my ass lol gotta try their benzos and 2fdck now. And the boh 2cb look cool

But their 2 xoxo o pce and MXPr feel wierd. The 3 ho pcp is normal tho. Man it he 2 oxo I got from a long lost hawwaian private vendor who is a crystal up in space rn his o0pce was fucking bomb tastic but 3x the price.

Anyone know if Deborah has good DCK?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:23:22 EST jvWFdMkI No.369641 Reply
>>369604
>>369606
>>369623
I get that I'm mentally old and crotchety as fuck, but ordering from NL to North America has always been sketchy. Yeah, packs can and do certainly arrive but NL is one of the biggest countries exporting legal and illicit drugs, so the packages are examined more stringently than say France or the U.K. (I know RCs have a blanket ban in the U.K.).

>DCK
I thought 2F-DCK was the replacement as DCK is no longer being produced. DCK is one of the few RC dissociatives I would try. I haven't had an RC /dis/ since MXE, and oh boy, my days with Ketamine and MXE were phenomenal.
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Stoned chocobo - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 00:47:27 EST Kn362rnJ No.369645 Reply
>>369641
Do you know if Deborah labs is legit? Because they have dck listed
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Sophie Shakespear - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:10:29 EST tBs55sn8 No.369681 Reply
>>369645


I bought MXE from a Deborah Labs back in 2011. It arrived from China and was high quality. That was years ago and that particular site shut down. Id be cautious
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Hamilton Clidgechot - Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:11:22 EST dvPB2iQm No.369688 Reply
>>369645

They exit scammed long ago, anyone popping up under that name isn't legit.
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Cedric Pickcocke - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:22:05 EST XCZt2bXL No.369769 Reply
This stuff is really mediocre.

I did MXE off and on for years, from 2011-2015, have greatly enjoyed DXM, partly enjoyed but mostly been meh'd by O-PCE, loved 3-MeO-PCP for the mania and clearheadedness, and MXPr, I really don't know.

1) It's caustic as fuck. Don't ingest this anyway other than orally.

2) It's got glimpses of the magic that MXE and DXM can give, but they quickly fade into confusion (yes, confusion with MXE and DXM is what happens when you don't know how to utilize them, this feels different)

3) It's short lasting

4) DXM is better and cheaper
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Ernest Bunwill - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 15:32:04 EST 2oVMlPBc No.369771 Reply
>>369769
>yes, confusion with MXE and DXM is what happens when you don't know how to utilize them
how do you utilize them?
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Doris Pockstone - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:05:17 EST jtJ28lSt No.369784 Reply
>>369769
The caustic nature is my main reason for not buying more. Took all of my supply nasally and by god does it burn, stomach pains at the end of binges too. I liked the rush and thought it was unique enough to enjoy trying it, but there are too many good and cleaner dissos to bother with this one further imo.
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Kerflap !HUZ.4c6SGE - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 12:08:27 EST mtUj+4H1 No.369812 Reply
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>>369784

I really dont find mxpr to be all that caustic. At least not compared to say the recent batches of 3meopcp or like 2cb. Its a tingle at best. I do however think plugging is the way to go with mxpr much like mxe.

>>369769

  1. See above
  2. I agree a bit with this one but i dont necessarily find it to be bad.
  3. Short lasting is actually sort of a plus for me. I can do it right after work and be good for bedtime.
  4. So is 3meopcp, opce, 3hopcp, etc. But as much as i enjoy dxm (it being my drug of choice) i also really enjoy dissos that dont fuck my stomach.
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asd - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 12:28:23 EST YSthy4CM No.369813 Reply
>>369379
Hi.
Try Ashwagandha = Snt. John's wort + BPc 157 for tolerance. It's working, lowering it to baseline.

BPC 157 1 week, 7.5mg should be ok.
Ashwa, about 1 week, 2 caps /day
then SJW -= megadoses- 4-5g a day wor a week
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Nathaniel Drimmerdut - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 13:11:57 EST jtJ28lSt No.369814 Reply
>>369812
Strange, I find both 3meopcp and 2cb smoother, but then the dosages of those are generally lower/longer lasting for me, could be different batches I guess. Of course these chems all burn a lil, but none with quite the damaging feel of mxpr, e.g. I never had bloody phlegm before snorting this. I can see plugging being the best roa, but I'm not sure I want it in my body from what I've experienced so far. Although I'm interested to see if a cleaner batch gets made.
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Awe' !!Bwteoy2D - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 20:12:13 EST UOS2w50J No.369817 Reply
>>369812
what if your asshole wants to eliminate every drug u put in there?
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Thomas Drisslewodge - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 03:58:13 EST 2cFbDpry No.369846 Reply
My vendor was selling it just a few days ago but delisted it. 2-FDCK is too short acting and weird, O-PCE is dangerous with my blood pressure, DXM is tricky because of SSRIs I take.
I was hoping MXPr would be at least interesting but I guess I'm slow on the draw. Reports seem to be all over the place though.
Guess I'll try 3-HO-PCP
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Eugene Gapperridge - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 08:39:51 EST jtJ28lSt No.369851 Reply
>>369846
I'd recommend 3-MeO-PCE if you've never tried. A nice sedating and more psychedelic change from the PCP variant.
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Jesus Christ - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 22:54:35 EST zQxVoU9f No.369864 Reply
>>369846
Hey bud I really liked 2fdck (except the amount of substance required)
I also did not like 3hopcp. So perhaps our tastes are reversed, and you’ll really like it! Good luck! Enjoy!
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Beatrice Benderdutch - Fri, 06 Dec 2019 00:34:25 EST 2cFbDpry No.369869 Reply
>>369864
>>369851
PsychonautWiki says 3-MeO-PCE is fairly stimulating. My blood pressure is in stage 1 hypertension and I know that most people don't seem to give a shit about the cardiovascular effects of dissociatives (for some reason, I always thought that really strange) so super stimulating dissociatives are out of the question. I also am wondering if CBD could be used to counteract vascular effects of it and other drugs.
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Caroline Besslechare - Fri, 06 Dec 2019 09:26:01 EST jtJ28lSt No.369873 Reply
>>369869
I can see what you mean, I've never looked too deeply into it despite steering away from stims for the same reasons, probably because I enjoy dissos too much. So far I've only really become aware of increased heart rate with 3-MeO-PCP, but I can avoid noticing or feeling it by slow dosing, whether or not that actually helps I'm not sure.
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asd - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 13:03:36 EST YSthy4CM No.369925 Reply
Today OPCE in powder is shit.
You can find 3 HO PCE selling as OPCE poweder, also.

3 HO PCP from trrc was shit.
Also 3 HO PCE (sold as 3 HO PCE )

Only DPD/MXP/Ephenidine were ok.
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lolz - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 13:17:47 EST YSthy4CM No.369926 Reply
4) DXM is better and cheaper
Nope, you need to take 400 mg of DXM and it's not hole.
It's definitely bad for your bladder. Best dissos are these strongest - 20-50mg for full hole.
There should be no need to take something less potent - K is damaging bladder quite badly.


I've just ordered 2g of it, everyone says that it's working, but just meh - i think it will be usable for mixes.
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Fuck Bummerfot - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 04:18:12 EST hAXr9mcT No.370006 Reply
>>369926
I've got it.
Form of fluffy powder, like best OPCE was.
Quality is good, I think. I;ve tested
5+10+25+10 first day (quite fast redose, after 20-30 min of previous dose)
Ketamine + 20 mg of MXPr

I feel it's strange. It's providing huge confusion at quite low doses (no cev's at this moment). It's in same moment quite vivid (no spectacular effects) and oniric and unconscious. I feel like 10mg more and it produce blackout.

Someone has some opinions on it?
I'lll try more, but only with sitter.

It's also loading quite long, longer than OPCE.
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Fuck Bummerfot - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 04:19:58 EST hAXr9mcT No.370007 Reply
>>370006
For me it's something between 3-HO-PCP of good quality on overdose, and 3-meo-pcp. It's also rather cold.
It's strange. I feel I'll use it for mixes with DXM for antidepressive qualities. For saving bladder and use less material
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Edward Sacklepere - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 02:09:09 EST 2cFbDpry No.370023 Reply
Oh good, MXPr is being listed again at my preferred; either scammed me or got seized at customs but sometimes I get my packages anyways; Amsterdam site. So, anymore reviews on this compound? Worth a shot?
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Edward Sacklepere - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 02:10:06 EST 2cFbDpry No.370024 Reply
Also, why do all RC vendors sell product in little baggies that are hard to get the product out of? What do you guys do to accurately pour out what you want?
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Nicholas Pussleford - Wed, 18 Dec 2019 22:52:46 EST 2cFbDpry No.370049 Reply
Everyone says DXM is a trash dissociative but outside of 2-FDCK which is expensive considering how much you need it still reigns as my favorite. 3-HO-PCE and 3-HO-PCP aren't really doing it for me but maybe I just need a lot more than the suggested dose.
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Kerflap !HUZ.4c6SGE - Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:00:27 EST BSOdD3kx No.370068 Reply
>>370024

Ik what you mean. They fucking suck. But honestly i cant think of anything thatd work better without making things less discrete. Get a 10mg scoop or one of those dab tools that have a little scoop, ive seen em often sold with dab pens. They work great. Honestly my biggest issue is getting them open without eventually tearing off one side meaning i have to open it with my teeth or something.
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Cedric Chendlehug - Sat, 21 Dec 2019 04:40:16 EST TgEVA2Ny No.370087 Reply
>>370024
how and why would you not be prepared for it's arrival with your own vessel and accoutrements?
Do you want the vendor to wipe your bottom for you aswell, Mr. Sacklepere?
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i weigh 136lbs and take 350mg dxm - Sat, 21 Dec 2019 21:45:12 EST jtNMO8RJ No.370100 Reply
dollar store dxm and benadryl is king
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zsingree - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 19:28:21 EST vDHzpBRf No.370431 Reply
>>369301
circlejerk, or search the actual chemical name on another search that google
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:31:38 EST phhIq7RG No.370452 Reply
>>369042
As an former huge RC fan, testing everything I could get my hands on, I'm torn about purchasing this one. It's expensive and most reports are neutral or negative with a few glowing exceptions. But at the same time I've tried basically every other ACHA on the market and this one is structurally too interesting for me to let it slip by. I still curse to this day the fact that I missed MXM.

Someone convince me to buy some. I only need 1/2g right? Just to put it in the Pokédex?
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Kerflap !HUZ.4c6SGE - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:55:00 EST kNyeDtkO No.370456 Reply
>>370452

It's actually not that bad, it just lack in some areas on its own. Its really good for a mellow buzz or a combination, and it really shined mixed wuth psys. The short duration can be seen as positive or negative depending on the amount of time you habe for an experience but the shorter duration i actually enjoyed becauze it made it easy to just do it and be happy for s bit without ruining my entire day with dissociatice confusion and stuff. Maybe not the best dissoiatice out there but this one isnt one i would pass up on. If the price were better itd actually be a go to for me.
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Jarvis Pezzlefit - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 00:21:17 EST Wm0gRd8L No.370466 Reply
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how does it compare to ketamine or DXM?? also if anyones tried opce as well id love some info on that too. k/dex are the only dissos ive done, though ive done a fuck ton of both. sry for the necro guise
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Polly Pengernadging - Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:27:00 EST 9QIPlHF5 No.371580 Reply
>>370466
It's really immersive and manic for an hour, then kind of like a that numb brain, distant feeling with some motor impairment that you get after like 100mg of ket for another 3 hours.
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William Grimwill - Thu, 21 May 2020 09:18:31 EST HZU4kL+X No.372015 Reply
Are you all hyped for exactly MXPr or it's just because it's something that has Methox* in it?

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