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- Sun, 09 Aug 2020 19:06:30 EST 8S5tM5Ry No.372774
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So I just ordered 2fdk from a few different sources. What should i expect? I have needles and bacteriostatic water, can I im? I also got memantine. Is that good for anything?
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Caroline Sorringsitch - Tue, 11 Aug 2020 04:26:14 EST 3f13dIi9 No.372782 Reply
> What should i expect?
Like ketamine. Seems a bit more dopaminergenic and less dissociative.

> can I im?
I mean, probably. As always you should definitely test your shit for cut and impurities/byproducts before doing some shit like that. Why not boof it?

> I also got mematine
Yeah, apparently that shit is quite neat. That can only be dosed orally. In sufficient doses it produces a "clean", long-lasting dissociative effect. I totally forget what the dosing guide is like for that so you will have to go look it up yourself. I don't think it's very euphoric but it seems novel and worth experimenting with.
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Jack Gocklegold - Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:51:18 EST 8S5tM5Ry No.372783 Reply
>>372782
>>372782>>372782
Is there any antidepressant effects? I used to do dxm weekly in high school for the anti depressant effects but I hit the trip limit and just go retarded without any euphoria last time I tried.
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Sophie Sallershaw - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 01:13:44 EST IBnEhAME No.372801 Reply
>>372782

Memantine's fun, but it's a weird one. Be careful dosing high with it as it tends to last over 20 hours, the full trip is around 12-20 hours and there'll be after effects for the rest of the next day. It's fun at low doses, it has a lot of music euphoria and makes music sound really neat, but it's not very euphoric itself, I even found it mildly dysphoric at higher doses, it's not exactly my go to dissociative.

30-60mg is my usual dose range, 50mg is a nice, mild dissociation similar to a more stimulating but mildly boring low second plateau DXM trip. I don't like going much higher than that due to the ridiculously long duration and the fact that it's one of the few dissociatives to make me somewhat dizzy. It's great for just sitting there and listening to music though.

As for 2-FDCK, I don't know anything about IM'ing but I've heard of people doing it, I doubt it's any worse than IM'ing Ketamine if it's a pure batch and your method is good. Personally I just plug it, it's far more effect that way than snorting and it tends to burn a good bit when snorted. It's like a mix between Ketamine and DCK, slightly less potent than Ketamine but a little longer lasting, it's kind of hard to hole on but it's really clean and has a lot of the magic of Ketamine, just a bit weirder in a difficult to explain kind of way, and even though snorting it was uncomfortable, it was a lot of fun prepping lines and taking bumps while playing video games and shit. Great compound, it's just way too expensive for how quickly I go through it, it does have a nice antidepressant effect similar to Ketamine though.
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Albert Clavingdetch - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 21:48:48 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372811 Reply
>>372801
Where do you get your dck? I ordered some from dck but who knows if it will come through. Also in your opinion do the 3 ho pce analogs have anti depressant potential?
>>372801>>372801
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Shit Pezzleson - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 01:26:03 EST IBnEhAME No.372812 Reply
>>372811

I haven't had DCK in a few years, as far as I know the new batch is only available from Europe but I haven't checked in ages so who knows if that's changed.

I haven't tried 3-HO-PCE specifically but 3-HO-PCP, 3-MEO-PCP and 3-MEO-PCE all have varying degrees of antidepressant effects, 3-MEO-PCP in particular was great, I got so much shit done while afterglowing on that shit lol. But with all the ones I've tried if you overdo it then it'll start having the opposite effect (though I think that's the case for all dissociatives, to varying degrees), and with the PCx analogues they carry a higher risk of mania, though amazingly it never really got out of hand for me outside of just making an ass out of myself a couple times.

I'd personally be careful trying to specifically use any RC dissociative as an antidepressant, I tend to view the effect as more of a really nice side effect when I get it and I try not to seek them out specifically for that effect. Ketamine is one thing since it has plenty of research to prove its efficacy, not so much for the funky mystery flour.
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Edward Barddale - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 01:37:43 EST Pjz8tAxm No.372813 Reply
>>372811

I've had a few orders of DCK in the last year. All from the same trusted European vendor. It was as good as any I've had in years past. If you've ever had good DCK, expect nothing less if its coming from the EU.
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Albert Clavingdetch - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:26:19 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372815 Reply
>>372813
Where do you order from? Free speech on where to find these substances seems to be shut down lately>>372813
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Walter Pockstone - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:29:25 EST MYA7SC5S No.372816 Reply
>>372815
>lately

you have never been allowed to source or request sources here even for things that are legal
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Albert Clavingdetch - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:10:31 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372818 Reply
>>372816
Is chem a legit site? What is the reasoning behind preventing free speech about corporations? Who is paying them to do this or even worse are they taking it upon themselves to shut people up? Obviously not all source talk is forbidden because I can say Wal-Mart has good apples etc. But people get all sensitive about designer drugs
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Phoebe Gunkinhood - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:31:51 EST 9sP2apH7 No.372819 Reply
>>372815
>>372818
Free speech on a private forum is a privilege not a right. Your free access to this website is a privilege, not a right. The rules say no source discussion.
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Albert Clavingdetch - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 11:25:02 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372820 Reply
>>372819
Don't be such an asshole. The constitution guarantees the freedom of speech. This is not a private forum so what right do you have to take away my freedom of speech? People like you would happily sit back and let google and other corporations take over the internet and place ever more restrictions on it, meanwhile smiling like a stallion saying "well if they can afford to do it we just have to let them take away our rights'. Go be a stallion somewhere else
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Fuck Duckworth - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 20:19:44 EST Tui9I58F No.372828 Reply
>>372820
What constitution? The world constitution?
User is currently banned from all boards
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Barnaby Nunningworth - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 22:03:33 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372835 Reply
>>372828>>372828
No man, youre right lets just let them tell us what can and cant be discussed on the internet without a fight. It's their site after all, right? Let's only talk about what they say is ok. If a corporation were to buy rights to the whole internet and set rules on what discussion was allowed we would just have to accept that as good little boys and girls. After all, money=legitimacy so they would have the ultimate authority on acceptable speech. It's people like you that are ushering in brave new world. Smiling with that bug eyed soy face while the government rams it up your ass. Bohica is your motto and you will defend this jovial jewry until your in the grave
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Lydia Smalldock - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 00:22:08 EST lpriJS8e No.372837 Reply
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>>372835
I am a good girl who is fine with being told what to do by authority figures.
Sometimes authority figures are looking out for our best interests, for instance by setting rules that prevent us from openly discussing illegal things where you can easily be investigated for it, where careless people could order them and then sell it to teens who die from overdoses. In prison you don't have much freedom, but maybe you'd prefer to learn that the hard way. It's a lot more at stake here than just your ability to speak freely - there are always consequences.

Just don't forget about me when they break down your door, ok?
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Barnaby Nunningworth - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 10:43:22 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372839 Reply
>>372837
>illegal things
>Bust down my door for talking about legal substances on a Mongolian basket weaving forum
Ok retard
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Barnaby Nunningworth - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 10:43:22 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372840 Reply
>>372837
>illegal things
>Bust down my door for talking about legal substances on a Mongolian basket weaving forum
Ok retard
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Lydia Smalldock - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:43:26 EST lpriJS8e No.372846 Reply
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>>372839
>>372838
This thread is about 2-FDK, and can be prosecuted under the Analogue Act. It's not a valid discussion anymore when /pzo2nA8 asks multiple times for a place where he can buy it from. You're putting yourself and the website at risk.
The US Constitution's 1st Amendment protection of free speech does not apply to privately owned websites on the Internet. If 420chan.org were owned by a public government then would you still post illegal material?
Do you think Kirt just allows people to get away with posting child pornography? If you own a website you have a responsibility to deal with this kind of stuff for liability reasons.
It's important to stand up for the right to free speech, but you should really pick your battles a bit better. You don't have to give me the middle finger just because I'm looking out for you.
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Hedda Dubberman - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:47:12 EST /vVDr2Bf No.372847 Reply
>>372846
This
Safe Harbor provisions require web hosts to police content. Canadian laws are similar I am sure. remember that time Kirt got into trouble with patreon due to /h/?
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Edwin Sirringwill - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:51:32 EST YanaizTO No.372848 Reply
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>>372820
>he doesn't understand the words "private forum"
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Albert Mapperworth - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:33:23 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372849 Reply
>>372848
Wouldn't private forum apply to a website that requires a password to get into? How private is a website that you can Google "drugs forum" and find it on the first page? If mods and the government's want to police content like the Gestapo then why not actually make it private, charge people to use it, etc. It would be more honest than acting like the internet is this bastion of free speech but if you want to discuss legal chemical suppliers all the toadies come out of the woodwork to say well hey man it's a private club you can leave if you don't like it
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Albert Mapperworth - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:44:12 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372850 Reply
>>372846
You just compared legal research chemicals to child porn. Get out of this thread you weaboo glowjolly african-american faggot. 2fdck is definitely legal in the US. The fact that the world is full of stallions like you is the reason the controlled substances act was passed in the first place. Look at you, you bitch. You're on a drug forum comparing dissos to cp. Consider suicide immediately
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Cyril Crarringstock - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:53:39 EST lpriJS8e No.372851 Reply
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>>372849
From a recent Supreme Court ruling:

>By contrast, when a private entity provides a forum for speech, the private entity is not ordinarily constrained by the First Amendment because the private entity is not a state actor. The private entity may thus exercise editorial discretion over the speech and speakers in the forum. This Court so ruled in its 1976 decision in Hudgens v. NLRB. There, the Court held that a shopping center owner is not a state actor subject to First Amendment requirements such as the public forum doctrine....
>The Hudgens decision reflects a commonsense principle: Providing some kind of forum for speech is not an activity that only governmental entities have traditionally performed. Therefore, a private entity who provides a forum for speech is not transformed by that fact alone into a state actor. After all, private property owners and private lessees often open their property for speech. Grocery stores put up community bulletin boards. Comedy clubs host open mic nights. As Judge Jacobs persuasively explained, it “is not at all a near-exclusive function of the state to provide the forums for public expression, politics, information, or entertainment.”

>In short, merely hosting speech by others is not a traditional, exclusive public function and does not alone transform private entities into state actors subject to First Amendment constraints.

>If the rule were otherwise, all private property owners and private lessees who open their property for speech would be subject to First Amendment constraints and would lose the ability to exercise what they deem to be appropriate editorial discretion within that open forum. Private property owners and private lessees would face the unappetizing choice of allowing all comers or closing the platform altogether. “The Constitution by no means requires such an attenuated doctrine of dedication of private property to public use.” ... Benjamin Franklin did not have to operate his newspaper as “a stagecoach, with seats for everyone.” ... That principle still holds true. As the Court said in Hudgens, to hold that private property owners providing a forum for speech are constrained by the First Amendment would be “to create a court-made law wholly disregarding the constitutional basis on which private ownership of property rests in this country.” ... The Constitution does not disable private property owners and private lessees from exercising editorial discretion over speech and speakers on their property
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Cyril Crarringstock - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:02:07 EST lpriJS8e No.372852 Reply
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>>372850
The issue is not that you're discussing legal RCs. The issue is that you've asked 3 times for people to give you a source so you can buy RCs, and this isn't acceptable here.

Why are you acting like a little screaming spoiled child, throwing a tantrum because your mommy told him no?
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Phoebe Brummleham - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:02:55 EST iqsyMBAE No.372853 Reply
>>372850
>Addict going on ass burning withdrawal seethe because noones willing to risk their sources to a random retard on an imageboard
Based
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Albert Mapperworth - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:02:23 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372857 Reply
>>372851>>372851
If you want to crack down on free speech on the internet then by all means do what you have to do but don't act like you are a crusader for free speech at the same time that you are cracking down on research chemicals. Personally I have a source I just wanted to see the toadies come out of the woodwork to defend their private forum from vicious free speech
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Walter Shakehood - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:55:26 EST 8X+DuW6E No.372858 Reply
Came here from /420 to agree pzo2nA8 is an idiot.
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Alice Pickdale - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:35:23 EST cUkOv8eA No.372860 Reply
>>372859
/dis/ is not for chest thumping low IQ subhumans I'm sorry you had to learn this way
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Albert Mapperworth - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:58:22 EST /pzo2nA8 No.372862 Reply
>>372858
I just order a package to US minor outlying islands instead of us. Everything else is correct. Will they realize I meant The US proper or will they try to send it to an uninhabited island?
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:48:35 EST qVKqlYWg No.372863 Reply
>>372862
There is no freedom of speech or constitution in Canada. 420chan is a Canadian website. Additionally, most of your language is not acceptable here. Now shoo, no time to deal with morons.
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Angus Hurringway - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:27:46 EST hPXZ4kRc No.372866 Reply
>>372863>>372863
Say that shit to my face fuker, not online and see what happens
User is currently banned from all boards
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Angus Hurringway - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:50:18 EST hPXZ4kRc No.372867 Reply
>>372863>>372863
I just want to know who is giving you your marching orders. Apparently talking about vendors for these products is a big no no but I can say that I ingested these chemicals? Are we going to have to go back to using SWIM because if these substances are illegal then admitting to taking them is illegal. I'm not really hurting for sources per se, I have a few grams tucked away I just want to understand the hypocrisy behind you can talk about taking drugs, show pictures of your illegal stash but mentioning the website you got it from is naughty naughty how dare you try to promote the free exchange of ideas! So who are you appeasing with this, advertisers government or what
User is currently banned from all boards
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Edwin Sirringwill - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 19:00:54 EST YanaizTO No.372868 Reply
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>>372867
This has already been explained to you, you just don't get it because you're trolling or literally Too Stupid.
Or a fed.
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Angus Hurringway - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 19:31:16 EST hPXZ4kRc No.372870 Reply
>>372868
Why are you all such toadies? Next you'll be trying to tell me the holocaust actually happened
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Wesley Tillingway - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 22:58:50 EST /vVDr2Bf No.372872 Reply
>>372867
He's covering his own ass in case your stupid tumor brain gets fried on some shit you sourced here. You are a fucking liability.
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Skizzlepuss !9pv7OdDk3k - Sat, 29 Aug 2020 17:56:00 EST Kt0zKbAN No.372936 Reply
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