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I have seen things in the sky

- Thu, 05 Jul 2018 23:58:52 EST jdso/YpT No.46065
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Over the course of twenty-two years I can remember seeing 3 things. Each time I was sleeping by a window. I would wake up feeling an awful vibration throughout my body and see something extremely artificial-looking far away in the sky outside. I try to shout, but I have no voice. I can move, but my body is heavy like a wet sandbag so I don't even sit up.

I've had this experience in 3 different places. One time was in the early afternoon in the Itaewon district of Seoul. Every time I've wanted so bad for it not to be real that I would not dare run outside to check.

Not sure if this is a /dr/ issue or a /spooky/ one so I am posting here first.
Albert Chingerham - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 00:14:57 EST jdso/YpT No.46066 Reply
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Sorry, I realize I never asked a question. Writing all that out triggered my panic reflex and I forgot to ask if someone can help me understand what's happened. Can someone help me understand what's happened? I've read accounts of sleep paralysis but the descriptions don't seem to match up with mine.
Priscilla Mankinfield - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 15:02:37 EST 2QzckDn4 No.46068 Reply
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I've had some similar experiences, but only one that was distinctly alien and not sleep paralysis/hallucinatory phenomena, as I have come to be able to discern between visuals, more solid hallucinations and actual living presences, and one began in the early hours of the morning, as either a warning or indication scorched into my awareness, that simply read "UFO!" Out of caution, I did not go to the window to check, but simply lay and observed the direction of the window, the curtains still closed, and as I did so there came into my vision a complete blackness, not a soft darkness, or even pitch blackness, but a complete blackness, and not empty either, but hard as if it was an actual dark energy, and a grey, ovular head and skinny beck, an almost morphing indefinable grey in between greys, or a multitude of tones, with shapes for eyes and a mouth, visible from the torso upwards, and yet this being although a definite presence, felt more like a conduit, or honer, for this dark energy, as if like a mask through which it communicates, as it observed me and its' eyes narrowed into piercing slits, and as they did so the blackness seemed harder and colder, and seemed to penetrate me and paralyse me and shrink my life force, and put me under, while some part of me was still able to observe, but only so that this very thing became my observation. Scared and overwhlemed at this point, I sort of went into a default state and it left, either unwilling or unable to go further. I actually didn't feel bad afterwards, or scared, though the weirdness lingered, I felt rather relieved, and even normal in the good sense again, as if my being had fought off something.

Given the paralysing effect it had on me I can see how such a being would be able to abduct people in the manner that abductions occur, in which abductees find themselves unable to move and become separated from their bodies, if these things can channel this blackness to freeze someone, or if alternatively the blackness uses these things as a tool in order to do so. Although the experiences speaks to a certain malevolence, I am not entirely sure that these beings are entirely malevolent, and speculate that they are either working for other beings (Reptilian beings are often described in abduction cases), or that despite seemingly being of a collective, and all looking the same in appearance save for greatly varying size (indicating possible shapeshifting ability) they possess some modicum of individuality, and serve different purposes, as although this particular one seemed menacing, I've had other encounters with these beings in which they seemed curious and inquisitive, which might have been a deliberate facade to make me feel more comfortable with the intrusion, as despite their presence they didn't seem to be able to abduct me at all, and some accounts even suggest a sense of humour, despite the popular notion that they are indifferent, emotionless, cold and purely technological and scientific/logical. Whether or not they are aliens or of some spiritual plane is unknown, but several things suggest a shapeshifting ability to me, for one, the variations in size, secondly, despite the distinct grey alien appearance, this being appeared to be wearing some kind of old lady disguise, as it had a handbag, and curled hair, and an old lady outfit, and it's stature also suggested the attempt at an old lady appearance, which suggests the intention of appearing innocuous/inert, to those who might not be able to see the alien, which also suggest hidden and possibly bad intent.

Accounts of abduction seem to indicate that asking God for help can outright end an unwanted abduction or intrusion, if such a thing could ever be considered desirable, which damnably suggests that these beings might be demonic or something, though not conclusively. I have read other abduction accounts that show that people who are regular abductees, assuming they aren't making it all up, can grow used to the experience and even learn to commune with these aliens and learn from them. Abduction seems to affect most people negatively, and yet from accounts it seems that they wouldn't know or understand our intense fear in these situations as it is alien to them, they simply don't know fear in the way that we do, so they don't understand the effect their intrusion has on people's mental well-being. Although that particular encounter felt real, there are others that might stem from suggestibility and imagination on my part, owing to my ingrained memory of the experience which could lend hallucination or out-of-control fantasy the sense of a living presence. The experience has some things in common with my sleep paralysis experiences, which suggest to me that what happens during sleep paralysis might also happen during abduction, and be part of the abduction process, as I've felt shooting electrical surges and vibrations during sleep paralysis.

I know also the weakness and vibration you felt, the weight, from apparent paranormal experiences and as for the sense of something artificial, whatever plane this comes from has a certain virtuality, or plasticity, or artifice to it. Also look into Men In Black, apparently menacing, cold, and artificial looking/feeling humans who show up after certain UFO encounters and strange occurrences to threaten and intimidate people into silence, and have an effect on people not unlike what I described earlier from my encounter with the grey. Given the Grey's apparent ability to disguise, though not to me, they could be of the same kind. I believe I encountered a grey, or something not dissimilar, or possibly the same Grey I encountered recently, either that or it might just have been an old lady, save for strangely black eyes that gave me the same kind of feeling I experienced more recently, though not so severe. The ability to take on a pseudo-human form makes me think that the men in black might be greys attempting to take humanoid form. These encounters are unlike anything I've experienced on drugs, and yet drugs might also be facilitate such an encounter, for in 1917 I believe, Aleister Crowley encountered, or somehow summoned, while under the influence of mescaline and other psychoactives, an entity called a LAM, which he then sketched, which looks like a Grey alien attempting to take on Humanoid form, and it's not unheard of for people to have experiences like alien abduction on DMT, psilocin and LSD and any psychedelic.
Phoebe Tootlock - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 08:02:30 EST GGbgSy1x No.46069 Reply
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Of course, it goes without say that Greys have access to the internet, as lastnight and into the early hours of the morning I bore witness to the a display of shapeshifting ability by the Greys, this time their presence, while no less weird, not particularly sinister. One small grey shapeshifted into a small dog with a red blindfold over its' eyes and back again, and another as a thin lady with black hair and a white shirt.

For all I know, this thread could have been a clever ploy to get me to give up what I know about this phenomena, disguised innocuously as a request for information to shed light on another's uncomfortable experiences. I must admit I waited to see if anyone else would reply first, then just decided to reply anyway. Also present was a reptilian entity, disguised as a woman.

Afterwards, I found myself, and after long studying I've come to the conclusion that in the Hermetic sense these entities exist as part of a hierarchical structure of the same experience, and that for any demonic entity to "possess" you would require a completely willing participant, who would then disguise itself as a victim and trick itself into believing that it is being manipulated by an outside source, which is part of the pact with the demon and demonic thinking in any sense, but not always harmful if one is aware of it what it is, and one can trick a demon by faking this pact while knowing better. By being manipulated by a demon and thinking that the demon is responsible for your actions you willingly submit your will, and basiclally become the demon you're blaming by a trick of perception, and drifting, "I'm not like them and they're responsible for these problems and that's it and it has nothing to do with me so I'll go and be great," (keep perpetuating the problem by pretending there's a TV screen between us). In this way, television could easily be construed as demonic and harmful, or at least the way it can be used as such. Videogames are of of the best demonstrations of this kind of demonic pact, in that your character in the game does not fail because the game is not working, as the world is virtual and follows virtual rules and as a result is somewhat infallible and blameless, it fails because you fail, and the character's understanding of how it interacts with this world is all down to you, and a bad gamer can ram you into walls and make you think it's the fault of the walls, which is why it is up to you to teach him otherwise by falling into these walls and showing the gamer that this is not a good thing to do. A real tyrant, perhaps the ultimate tyrant, will create a pseudo-reality through media manipulation and drugs that dull awareness, and turn you into a monster capable of acting on any impulse and justifying it, and many of these, to be used to the ends of a distorted world and perception.

The Nickelback song "She Keeps Me Up," describes this kind of demonic delusion very well, with the lyrics -

"She's got me nervous
Talkin' a hundred miles an hour
She's more than worth it
I swear she smells just like a flower
I'd fall to pieces if I went anywhere without her
I love when she says, what's wrong with right here on the counter?
Funky little monkey, she's a twisted trickster
Everybody wants to be the sister's mister
Coca-Cola roller-coaster
Love her even though I'm not supposed to.
Funky little monkey, she's a twisted trickster
Everybody wants to be the sister's mister
Coca-Cola roller-coaster
Love her even though I'm not supposed to.
She keeps me up (I keep you up)
She keeps me up (I keep you up)
All night (All night)
All night (All night)"


Of course, if you judge this song by some musical standard you could be deceived into misreading this song or bypassing the idea completely. For a demon to possess you and to blame this demon for your possession is a mind trick and part of the pact by which you desired this demon to possess you in the first place, it wants you to blame it and you want to blame it, it is a cycle, and a cycle of demonic thoughts can easily take on definite demonic form. If you can imagine the image of a snake, wrapped around a human head, coiled form the neck upwards, choking this human head, coiled around the whole head, blinding, the senses and suffocating, but the head hanging on a branch, and a hand holding this branch, from the right of the head, all that needs to happen for this snake to uncoil from the head is for the hand to let go of the branch on which its' head rests, and congratulations, you are deprogrammed from the reptilian machine.

If you think about what David Icke is describing in his detailing of the Reptilian agenda, and the assuredness with which he does so, he taking to task perception only, as Carl Jung said, the psyche is the great danger, and that is what Icke is challenging, a warrior against these demonic perceptions, portraying famous media figures and members of hierarchical government and royal families with menacing reptilian eyes, challenging not some abstract demonic entity, but your lack of responsibility for yourself in taking for granted your life and attributing power to blood/appearance/facade and destructive cycles of cause and effect, and the matrix of layered perceptions that can keep one imprisoned through their will alone, it is deprogramming veiled by Icke's performance of himself as a warrior against an evil government and it's victims, Icke is exorcism the demons through careful performance and self awareness. Real exorcism is another word for deprogramming of our perception of reality to see that reality is just perception itself.

Look at the music video itself and the use of neon/artifice/virtuality/fire/the response of the female in the audience above the crowd, the faux glitter and sparkle, the drunkenness and sort of artificial atmosphere. See how the band appears to be playing to the admiration of the girls, then they walk out into the "normalcy" of the day and the man and woman suited up walk by.

I mentioned earlier this clever play by an outside entity to get me to confess how much I know, well as I've detailed in the entire post, this indeed has been a trick, but not a trick, rather a pact I've made through which I've confessed what I know by illustrating this pact. This whole thing has been a performance.


"I hear them, they counsel me."
Edward Pickgold - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 17:58:33 EST QRKY41Hh No.46071 Reply
Man I know this is probably interesting as fuck, but who do you believe will read this epic that you wrote? You have to write ideas in separate posts and keep at least 1 day between the posts on such a slow board. Just an advice on your journey going forward.
Henry Brunderham - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 18:08:40 EST 5wnGN8OW No.46072 Reply

Well what it comes down to is, simple as pancaked, abcdWRXY


So I just accidentally exist, right?

Anyway, being possessed by the demon witch, continued.

To pick apart the Nickelback song further - "Love her even though I'm not supposed to," implies love of sin, or temptation, or possible even as far as incest, though not literal, as there are many mythological metaphorical tales of incest and punishment thereof, alluding to temptation, and to female scapegoat/demonic witch entity not real but nevertheless burned at the stake like Maria in Metropolis for the sins of the drunken gambling masses and melted into a robot in fire. Also this line implies tricking oneself into believing one isn't supposed to, in order to enjoy a seemingly forbidden relationship, which is part of the lie of demonic possession. "Evil romance, so good I never want to waste it, I can't trust my friends, because she's what everybody chases." Demonic mistrust is sewn, cannot trust friends for the temptation that exists, they are all addicted to it, as is the notion of "friends," in this pseudo world the music video and song presents.

Anyway, where was I going with this? Yes, more lyrics "coca-cola rollercoaster" implies the superficiality of the whole thing and the loop of demonic possession, dancing with demons, and the thrill of the whole thing, such as being scared at a horror film expressing legitimate fear, and yet faux fear for the illusion of having willingly bought a ticket for the film in order to experience the joy of temporary self deceit, the fear real but enjoyed, pseudo-fear as the film is just a film, the illusion of cinema made complete. Cinema is a great medium and also demonic, and yet demonic possession is not always an inherently bad thing, just complete demonic possession, like believing so fully in the film and the reptilian machinery of cinema that one goes out and commits copycat crimes based on a horror film.

Advice noted, but seeing as its' a slow board I can keep these long winded ideas gestating for a while, this is a good place to put them, after all not much else seems to be going on in this board.

One can alleviate the pain of any given situation and negate its' power by taking the blame for it, completely and absolutely, and that is not to say that an outside entity cannot interfere and abuse, it's just that the only way to combat it is through taking responsibility and owning the perpetrator, otherwise one is stuck in the loop of feeding the perpetrator and does not achieve the desired effects, but rather places some pseudo-targets in place which builds a bond between the abuser and the abused, and feeds something abstract, a kind of demonic loop that keeps both imprisoned, one must learn to be an individual in order to negate collective snake activity, for we are all eternal snakes, "we are legion" says demon possessed man when confronted, when one cannot see demons, one must be afraid, and I mean I see reptiles everywhere! Why do you think investigators use and develop rapport with serial killers? For instance, good and bad is dependant on preception, like "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly," for instance Ted Bundy in his last hours pretending that pornography was responsible for his crimes, suggesting it, and even setting himself up as a martyr for his fellow men being seduced by pornography in order to expose the industry, and yet pornography is not that harmful, unless one is addicted to it, partly by blaming it for one's addiction to it. A demon possessed being might look at this interview and feel disgust at him, because he is Ted Bundy, and he did bad things, but a being might see it as a useful and telling demonstration of demonic control and pathology, might see a demon, rather than the screen of separation.
Charles Drundertat - Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:10:30 EST RMzyycDv No.46088 Reply

i read that whole series when i was younger, it's great.
Cyril Honeyford - Sun, 02 Sep 2018 12:41:07 EST nZpL+hn3 No.46111 Reply
I've had some dreams like this. They always have a little bit more of that definite REAL feeling that you just don't get in any normal dream. For me, they often start out as just a normal dream, but then the dream throws a couple extra layers of crazy shit, and then it builds up to things descending from the sky... which is something that I just kind of feel. Don't really see. I've only ever actually seen it one time, though. This time there was no build up. I was having a regular dream of standing on my porch shouting a conversation to someone standing down the road. The only thing particularly odd was that my house, porch, and neighborhood were actually in real life shape, proportion, and locale. It's usually skewed in some way. All of a sudden, the whole sky gets dark red and starts booming like someone placed a giant horn around the Earth and started blowing. These lights just started pouring down, and I woke up.

I had another interesting one where I was sitting in a small house with one room, and I was paralyzed to the chair, and a bright white light came down from above that was so bright, that it shined through the ceiling. It blew the whole house apart like a nuclear explosion, and I got blasted literally up into orbit with these two cartoonish looking robots.

Whatever I'm eating that causes dreams like this, I want more of it.
Hamilton Gellystidging - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 23:52:51 EST 2tzYDfVc No.46127 Reply
We don't really know how harmful pornography is. I assume you are trying to group together groups of negative influences into the word "harmful" and obviously that cooks down into some opinionated nonsense. What I think we can all agree is harmful includes violence.. but then, to what degree? What if someone enjoys getting choked?

Anyway in my opinion pornography is very harmful. First of all, something that's been bothering me lately is how we as men (and women as well, we are all mankind, but I mean right now specifically males) are attacking and sabotaging our brothers and wanting to see them become poisoned.

We are in a rat race when we call our brothers virgins and stallions and pimps. What kind of man wants to associate another man with a humiliating feature? That's a sick thing to witness.

Porn is something that is damaging us I think, but the poison in it is coming from a deeper vein.

You can't browse any porn site without seeing interracial porn, the occasional trans, stallion porn, things like that. The worst of it in my mind is the BDSM type porn. You especially can't browse internet forums either, 4c has become a literal psy op these days that's feeding poison to people.

This stuff is a disease - I get angry when I see my brothers being weak and letting vampires drain them. You are not spiritually well if you take the role of being someone else's feed. You need to love yourself or you are going to rot and wither away. Nobody should be abused or taken advantage of, not even with their consent. What kind of person does that to another human being? The answer is an equally unwell one.

I hate jesus and know I'm not ghandi. I'm not trying to be, does no one else feel the same way about these things though?

I get angry at these things and the gods know that there is a place for violence in the world. It is against these people that suck the life out of their fellow man.

Culturally mixing everybody is going to destroy us all. That includes our heritage; the legacies of our ancestors. It's normal to want your seed to look like you and to belong to what you've lived by. It's also normal to become angry at the thought of a different kind coming along to take what is yours. Distrust of who and what is foreign to you is virtuous, it's how you survive and it's how we maintain order.

There are mental diseases being unleashed on us by evil. Porn is a catalyst to pass them on. There are more but porn is easy to identify as a tool for this.

It's better for everybody if we could all prosper and take care of ourselves. We all succeed; everything gets better. Competition right now is a monopoly that is held by evil. I'm not talking about a red guy with a pitchfork either.
Shitting Geshstack - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 16:03:01 EST ho0ef495 No.46129 Reply

Great. The fuck is your problem with BDSM porn man, it's great.

It's not abuse, it's consensual, pornstars consent to do these things with each other, and probably enjoy it most of the time.
Shitting Geshstack - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 16:05:01 EST ho0ef495 No.46130 Reply

Also agreed to an extent on cultural mixing, it ceases to be multi-cultural if it's all one culture.
Clara Trotwater - Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:10:31 EST 2tzYDfVc No.46132 Reply
I think it's fucked up because no one who is mentally and spiritually (maybe they're the same thing!) healthy is going to want to act like that. That's what I think. I get sad and angry for people when I see that kind of shit. Who the fuck wants to be harmed by somebody? Do you want to be in a snuff movie too? What kind of guy wants a high heel shoe crushing his nutsack, or what type of girl wants nipple clamps on her and to ruin and scar her body for an exciting orgasm. That's like smoking meth.

I know it's consensual most of the time and they are likely enjoying it - that makes it worse, because that enjoyment comes from an ill state of mind and spirit. That's what I think.
Thanks for agreeing with me.. I could of expressed it better but I don't feel now like doing that. We all gotta find our own way in life, there's not always a need to convince people that your side is reasonable or right. We need to lead ourselves because nobody can do it better than we can.
Beast - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:50:01 EST v6bi1UPq No.46134 Reply
There have been many studies on Porn at this point.

It is very harmful just in the nature of the experience. Your genitalia wasn't designed to function as an onlooker. The brain imaging mirrors people with a crack addiction. Sure you may go long periods of not watching it, but what draws you back? Does it feel good? In a selfish stunting sort of way sure. It isn't going to grow you or shape you. It just throws your testosterone down the drain on a fleeting feeling of someone else making love (or in the case of porn "fucking")

I'm not going to talk too long about it atm but yes, it is dangerous. Pretty stupid too. It throws your whole wa out of balance and it sickens you. Getting into particular fetishes and the twisted nature of them I'm not inclined to do other than to say that we both have light and dark inside of us. Pain can be pleasure and if permanent scarring or mortal danger isn't involved I think it is an acceptable curiosity that can be safely explored. (Obviously Snuff is a bit too far by its nature...there are limits to what can be feasibly learned without causing permanent harm) Long and drawn out dissecting sexuality as well as porn but I'll leave it with..

Sex is not a spectating activity.
Edwin Sazzlebetch - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:00:54 EST dDhRPs6+ No.46135 Reply

>because that enjoyment comes from an ill state of mind and spirit. That's what I think.

that don't make no sense in my eyes. enjoyment doesn't come from an "ill state of mind and spirit," i also think it's kind of black and white dense to think of pain as simply bad and that's it, I think the chemical mixing and experience of something we identify as bad as pleasurable is potentially beneficial or maybe even thereapeutic. I don't know really, I think to say that something either is or isn't is silly, how do we really know how we're supposed to be arranged.
' God !!Bwteoy2D - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 16:29:08 EST RMJuyVvx No.46136 Reply
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McDonald's can be enjoyable to a numb tongue, so bdsm can be enjoyable to one who doesn't know true depth of love or compassion. Bondage can probably be fun to play around with i suppose.
Matilda Hickledig - Tue, 16 Oct 2018 23:56:30 EST 2tzYDfVc No.46138 Reply
I think that if people could know their real worth and what they're capable of becoming that they would be offended by anyone engaging in bdsm. Complex discussion to which I have just written and erased several large paragraphs multiple times. It crosses into psychology, spirituality, and whatever else.

I happen to believe in destiny at this point in my life. I think it's a journey or an experience. I don't believe that destiny means everything is pre determined in life.
Being that I believe I have a destiny, I cannot believe that anyone could be without one. I don't think that anybody's destiny is to be a sex slave or wear latex or leather or collars or to call people daddy or master or any weird thing like that. There are influences on our lives in this world that are too complex to have a discussion about. The reason for them being too complex is that it's probably not even worth my time to put the effort into something so complicated when you might not even care enough to appreciate it or to further engage me about it.

We all have quirks we iron out in life.. that's probably part of everybody's "destiny process". I'm just saying that I don't think bdsm-related behavior is right, and that in my view, everyone is going to see that eventually.

What is right though, what is wrong? I don't really know, I just know how I feel about it. To each his own - do what you want. I carry a lot of shame around with me in life. I've never engaged in bdsm acts but if I did I'd find it hard to go to school or work the next day and look at anybody in the eyes.. I don't know about you. BDSM is one of the grossest things I know of, to me. I know that there is a wide spectrum of it though.. not everybody is getting chained and whipped and being walked around like a dog. For the sake of keeping this short I am not going to write a research paper here though.

I don't mind if you don't agree with me.. I'd actually appreciate it, especially if someone could convey to me why. I love civilized discussion. I have so much to say but this isn't the time or place. I'm probably representing myself in a way where you don't think much of me, that's unfortunate. I think that if everyone knew their worth then nobody would engage in that kind of stuff.

I know I'm not a sage or an oracle or a prophet. I had near death experiences within the last couple of years and when I was convinced that I was about to die I was able to look at myself from a clean, or third-person perspective.. I can't see now what I saw then but I always remember that that perspective is there. I've had a lot more integrity ever since.. just for me, because it feels right.
Basil Blodgespear - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 14:20:55 EST jdIS+8V3 No.46149 Reply
This is sleep paralysis. Read more. Some people see aliens too. I've personally experienced it a few times and it's exactly how you describe it. The vibration and everything.

Also wtf is this thread going on about?
Walter Hinkinheg - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 23:12:52 EST ZczUzHYu No.46164 Reply
Yeah textbook sleep paralysis dudes come on what drugs are you all on?

In almost every culture there was a story akin to the night hag or succubus or whatever. A creature would sit on your chest and you would awake and not be able to move or scream. It's that common every culture has a different story.

When people see ghosts they are in bed normally. Creatures at the end of the bed. Shadow people. I remember a man at my door and not being able to scream or move I was that terrified. Aliens are exactly that same phenomenon. It is sleep paralysis.

It's like hey all the supernatural shit happens in bed. Must be that all of the supernatural forces prey on people while they are half awake. Its definitely not related to that other well known common state where people are half dreaming while awake and experience terror, hallucinations, loud noises and paralysis. That's crazy guys. It's clearly aliens and bdsm.

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