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Perimeter alarms.

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- Wed, 08 May 2013 23:40:05 EST YBZp+2qO No.11232
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Saw this on a Facebook group I'm in. Been wondering more about different alarms that can get ghetto rigged. Anyone have any thoughts on homemade alarms, possibly silent?
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William Nisslework - Sat, 29 Mar 2014 21:57:04 EST NwDcBVP/ No.12892 Reply

The fire isn't to destroy the bunker it's to destroy the surrounding natural cover so everything is really easy to see.

I'm not trolling you're just mad I am upsetting your bunker fantasies and it's hilarious.
Charles Posslenadge - Sun, 30 Mar 2014 05:09:10 EST 2YIQD5dq No.12894 Reply
youre entire scenario requires you to know where the bunker is and have a large group of people to siege it.

good luck convincing a bunch of people to wander around the woods looking for a camoflagued entrance. most people place these things in rather isolated areas so you'd need to bring in supplie trains to supply your people as you hunt for the bunker and destroying all the natural supplies to attempt to get in is counter intuitive the entrances are usually hidden and if you've ever played hide and seek in the woods a little camo goes a long way.

and its not like people who make these things arent prepping for nukes that release poison gasses and such so theyed have filters to remove things like smoke.

better off just raiding something not ment to stand up to a raid.

When is the time right?

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- Tue, 18 Mar 2014 08:35:27 EST YQbpBzlB No.12835
File: 1395146127420.png -(2024009B / 1.93MB, 1080x810) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. When is the time right?
At what point is it best to bug out? What real-world scenarios would warrant dropping everything, grabbing your bag and getting the fuck out of Dodge, so to speak? I get natural disasters that leave large areas uninhabitable or at the very least very dangerous would be up there on the list as well as rioting and social unrest but at this point it may be too late to make for an effective escape. What are the warning signs that one should look for in regards to deciding it is time to leave?

Pic slightly related, an old picture of my hiking gear. Yes, there is a wand and pipe in there since while I was hiking I was also heavily into my shaman phase of spiritual exploration. I've added some things since then but for the sake of brevity I won't go into it. This is for scenarios and general warning signs, not necessarily gear.
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Albert Turveywater - Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:57:40 EST NwDcBVP/ No.12872 Reply

Keep tabs on world events and local news. The weather too.

Usually the PANIC! mode happens suddenly and without warning due to something like radio/cell phone announcements suddenly like School IS INVADING REMAIN CALM THE NATIONAL GUARD WILL PROTECT YOU or a nuke siren would turn any other calm day into full retard chaos mode. Those are the kinds of things you can't anticipate. Sneak attacks from terrorists or invading countries. Sudden natural disasters happen without warning sometimes but there are usually warning signs with tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanos, bad storms, hurricanes etc.

A terrorist attack requires a different response than an invasion obviously. If you hear about a terrorist attack get away from populated areas, get all your NBC survival gear and watch the news. Go to a remote location if people are being rounded up by the National Guard for safety as those locations could become potential targets next. The Guard will be meaning well but you should look after your own ass, plus with relief camps like that, panic can make them explode into unconstrained chaos, paranoid OMG FEMA CAMPS people can start grabbing M16s from the armory and yeah, you don't want to be there unless you're a Guardsman, then obviously do your duty.

For an invasion the same general rule applies but foreign countries know the US is chock full of gun toting average people so if you see foreign soldiers parachuting into your neighborhood, shoot to kill because they've most likely been ordered and trained to treat you as an enemy combatant. The National Guard will tell you to go to their camps and not fight but they'll be glad people did when the dust settles.

Seriously any invading soldier setting foot in America is going to be paranoid as fuck. They will shoot, your little cottage house or whatever isn't going to look innocent and pastoral. If they don't behave that way their invasion isn't going to last very long. So yeah be aware of that if you're an American citizen or even just visiting here and an invasion happens. Everyone here might become a target.


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- Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:57:47 EST 4ATdF+eK No.12841
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Explain the best way, How the thing about Cannabis Extinction its going to work
and wat are the effects
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Archie Dommlefuck - Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:00:56 EST PEZyd0pP No.12858 Reply
OP got too high and wants to make sure that never happens again. How else, but eliminate the plant all together?
Cedric Wibberbury - Sun, 23 Mar 2014 14:07:57 EST aFGFhtp2 No.12862 Reply
It's very hard to wipe a plant out of existence, if not near impossible.

Even more so one that grows in a ridiculous amount of the world. Even if you made a virus/fungus etc that destroyed the plant, there would be forms of the plant that would be resistant to it because, well, because evolution. Good luck spreading that fungus to all the different parts of the world as well, if the fungus can even survive in the very hot/very cold/very dry/very wet areas that weed can grow.

It would be easier and more plausible to make some kind of pest like locust and somehow genetically breed it to fucking love eating weed, even then seeds would survive, persist and spread, and the pest would again have trouble spreading around the world and surviving in different climates.

Shit now I think about it trying to wipe a plant out to extinction is probably one of the hardest things you could ever attempt to do.
Samuel Niggerfield - Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:27:53 EST PEZyd0pP No.12870 Reply
Locust aint shit compared to fungus. They suck at spreading, whereas spores are fuckin great at hitching a ride on everything. They mainly just do mechanical damage, wheras a fungus can fuck up your whole biochemistry. Fuck a locust.
>Shit now I think about it trying to wipe a plant out to extinction is probably one of the hardest things you could ever attempt to do.
True. There's plenty of rare plants that could be made extinct in the wild. With a concerted effort, I bet authorities could destroy all wild peyote (so they'd only grow in captivity).

Look up the American Chestnut. It was brought to the brink of extinction thanks to a wild fungus.


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- Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:04:54 EST jRfqEJQH No.12655
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Hey guys. I got a good rifle. A left handed one because shooting right handed bolts fucking sucks.
What type of scope should I buy? I should mention that I am no fucking sniper, so I don't need some flawless $600 scope that can see 9 miles away. I'd say I'm good up to 300 yards, and could hit a target (not accurately) at 400 yards.

knowing that what type of rifle and ammunition is used is important to knowing what type of scope to use, my pic is related.
Savage Arms Axis chambered in .308
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Fucking Nacklecherk - Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:09:24 EST lW9dnCit No.12818 Reply
You lump preppers entirely together based on your experience which sounds to be from the television.
Everyone has a back pack dip shit, an empty backpack is better than none at all.
Lol @ the only backpacks will be fully stocked BOBs and the only people with bags will be preppers.

You either have a one track mind or think you know everything. Both of which ensure your demise in a catastrophe.

All these idiots saying not to prepare: READ the Serbia article. He is more experience and says to have stocks. I don't give a fuck what your armchair survivalist theories say, im going with experience
Sidney Dallyletch - Sun, 16 Mar 2014 19:57:23 EST jRfqEJQH No.12831 Reply
yeah I know. But like I said, I'm not gonna be tearing through the brush hunting dudes. The warranty is if it breaks before SHTF at any time. That's what I meant.


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- Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:28:33 EST SrTOigb2 No.12781
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Oh wow this is a board now. I am real happy about that, I have so many apocalyptic fantasies.
Ok So This thread is just to discuss your general battle plans for whatever varied forms of apocalypse you want to have a plan for. I would however like to keep a general structure just for the sake novelty. Some things to include that'd be great are the following:
>official start date should be 'tomorrow'
>start with day 1, follow through at whatever pace you deem acceptable
>be sure to include what kind of apocalypse you're planning for, nuclear, alien, virus, zombie, biblical, robot, asteroid, cthulu or otherwise. We need to know what you're reacting to
>try to be as realistic/knowledgeable as possible, after a battle plan destined for failure isn't much fun to talk about

That seems sufficient.
For those who need inspiration; It's March 7th you wake up , and immediately realize it's one of those days that start of eerily calm for what ever reason, a lull in traffic, people that are usually around not being around, it could be anything. Going about your daily routine like normal you hear a scream all the way outside off in the distance, it doesn't bother you though. It's weird but whatever. You walk into your living room, you left the TV on last night and the emergency broadcast system is on the screen, it's not a test this time and it's quiet. Changing the channel, most of them are the same until you find a news channel.

So here I'd like some help, I want to continue my story but I'd it to be interactive, anyone want to pick what kind of apocalypse I'm going to have?
thread i choose you~
Ernest Turveydale - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 03:17:43 EST 7UKzYljI No.12799 Reply
an alien invasion thread ?
Ernest Turveydale - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:32:51 EST 7UKzYljI No.12800 Reply
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something like this

Seeking sites selling land for SHTF

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- Sun, 26 May 2013 09:58:30 EST bjpNRpcD No.11298
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Hey, /fo/. At one point during my searches for SHTF related things I came across a website of people selling land for bug out places. It wasn't just for selling land, but specifically for selling country land that would be good for bugging out to. The sellers listed the selling points in terms of how they would help you be self sufficient in case of a disaster. Anyone know the site I'm talking about? Or any similar ones? Any help is much appreciated folks. If ta'll'd like, I'll try and dump some post-apoc type art.
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Angus Dengernot - Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:16:13 EST QChUolRS No.12774 Reply
I think he actually meant County, not country.
Come to rural Southwest Colorado - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 03:08:04 EST GnZdkJmg No.12777 Reply
Ha haa... my bad. Huerfano/Alamosa County area.

Psychology behind preppers

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- Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:09:14 EST V+/bfw4V No.12585
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Preppers and doomsday fanatics and theorists tend to be from the non-professional classes of North American society. While the tendency towards such thoughts is deeply ingrained in the culture due to the cold war era nuclear scare, successful and average people have in recent decades.

Today, many preppers and theorists indulge in the fantasy scenarios because they feel powerless in their current position in society. Making a low income, having a medium education in a stagnant or underpaid field if any at all, or without a career, they crave a change even if it comes at others' expense. Many also dream of having influence and power but are unable to attain it in modern society so resort to this in a similar fashion as Second Life and MMO addicts.
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Jericho !.iRAtomic2 - Thu, 27 Feb 2014 03:40:50 EST BYatvm4L No.12752 Reply
I prep and plan with friends. We find it fun and entertaining, even though we all realize the likelihood of actually needing any of our prepped shit is very low. But it's fun for us to plan where to go, what to do, what to bring, in various end-of-the-world scenarios.
Sidney Hinderspear - Thu, 27 Feb 2014 21:27:03 EST TstY4Nwj No.12758 Reply
depending how you prep it could actually be useful, ie the power grid goes down and you have 3 months of food stored for the EOTWAWK, you'll be much more full then your neighbor.
Isabella Niggerfield - Mon, 03 Mar 2014 11:04:38 EST tsL/1wJr No.12771 Reply
The reason it feels like it won't happen is because all major world changing events happened during a time when pretty much all nations and all their occupants were more or less self sufficient.

Now we are all connected and dependant on our machines and electricity. Every house is wired up, every person connected.

If events the size of the napoleonic wars were to happen in the 21st century, the outcome would be a collapse in modern society. Even a permenant loss of electricity to a nation could bring about a post-apocalyptic-type dystopia. Think about it, without power, society would be set back 200 years and since no-one in the modern world has ever lived in the beginning of the 19th century, our fractured society wouldn't be able to cope, the majority would be running about like headless chickens.

It's been a century since the beginning of the first world war, we've been meandering relatively peacefully through time for 70 years now. It could happen in 10 years, it could happen in 100 but it WILL happen and the longer we wait, the more dependant on electricity we become, the more fucked we'll be when someone does eventually decide to turn your power off. Whether it be because of war or because of lack of resources, it will happen.

It's only logical to prepare.


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- Thu, 27 Feb 2014 08:22:21 EST FP9EGeLu No.12753
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I would like to attempt a re-examination of a recently locked thread.

As it brings up many points that should be at-least be considered and exposed, as we have learnt from many historic societies excluding, ignoring or diminishing any facet of human behaviour has always ended in disillusion, depression, confusion and eventually anger which in most cases ends only with blood soaked revolts which will end with no clear winner and no real reason.

So first off, There is an issue with sex and not getting any in certain circumstances.
There's a whole slue of individuals who have to deal with sexual assault in a place where there attacker can't just go out and try to pick up a girl or guy at a party or a pub.

The issue is believed to stem more from the idea that they can't even really attempt it. So they get frustrated just because they know they don't have a hope in hell of actually pulling anyone other than prostitutes or there fellow comrades of whom don't really want to be in any kind of relationship.

This issue with military personal translates to apocalyptic societies because the situations would be similar in sense that standing outside your base itself puts you at great risk and there is only a finite amount of people around. Only made worse by dwindling supplies and constant reminders of old life.

Which leaves many apocalyptic societies that haven't got a 50/50 split of males to females with the looming fact that they will eventually encounter this issue. (Excluding garden variety prevents and wierdos) Which should be a concern for anyone put in position of power.

I honestly think the best and only fair way to do deal with something like this is to hope that women see this issue and set up a brothel of there own doing and free will.
And in turn for reducing the unrest and increasing the moral of citizens they don't get taxed or are under protection from whatever government formed or forms within the society. Probably the same deal I'd offer to medical teams, defence teams and other groups who would be directly protecting and maintaining our society.
(See there's no need to treat them like farm animals Fucking Favingwater)
Nigger Shittingfield - Thu, 27 Feb 2014 08:51:58 EST NmTqKnn/ No.12754 Reply
Thank you for making this thread and realising that this is not an issue that we can afford to dismiss. I am currently in the process of attempting to get my thread unlocked on /420/. The thread in which I defend myself and make the case can be found here: http://boards.420chan.org/420/res/170713.php

I am sorry if you were at all offended by what I wrote or thought that it was misogynistic in some way. This was certainly not my intention, and if you care at all, I have outlined by defense in the thread linked above. I think if you read that it should become clear that there was nothing inherently misogynistic about the notions raised in my original thread.

I welcome your ideas though, and if we can get a functioning voluntary worker-owned brothel up and running, I'd be all for it. We do need to address some of the issues I raised in my thread though, such as spread of disease, emotional bonding, and the need to defend a building that is going to be packed with vulnerable women who will be of great value to bandits who would either want to rape them or capture them into sex slavery. Also childbearing.
Cedric Horringcheck - Thu, 27 Feb 2014 09:40:11 EST FP9EGeLu No.12755 Reply
I don't think you fully understand the idea of "own doing and free will".
The only reasons brothels are created is because of greed, or in more complex situations greed by force.
However it is in some situations a brothel/ sex circle is what is necessary for the more needy and restricted individuals or those that can't or won't control there OWN desires.
I in no way endorse it, I'd prefer a society that could just live and be satisfied with knocking out knuckle children if they can't get themselves laid.
I'd prefer not to have to objectify any member of society for entertainment and/or stress relief or anything for that matter.

In fact, What I would prefer, Would be to set up a brothel with willing, well paid participates. And use a register system, So that all the security and if possible the rest of society know who can't control themselves.
Because they are quite simply a danger to individuals who are possibly vulnerable and they have a right to know who is most likely to assault them.

If medical provisions are available then tests would be done on all people in and out the door. (The end of the world will probably be dirty and spreading diseases is a bad idea, which is why it will be dealt with by gov officials outside the front door)
Emotional bonding has nothing to do with anybody but yourself. I'm also sure many prostitutes stop taking calls from guys who end up in love with them.
Gov gaurds provide protection to all groups of society. Some more vulnerable than others will hopefully be provided extra protection.

Child rearing, is up to the mother, She's the poor sod who has the put up with damn thing she gets to make all the decisions and delegations.

vaginas and the apocalypse

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:48:25 EST NmTqKnn/ No.12744
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So, has anybody foreseen this problem when SHTF?

Everybody is going to be pretty fucking upset, and everybody is going to be looking for some sort of outlet. Something to give them release, satisfaction, escapism, and to remind them of the old ways. As has been mentioned, booze and drugs generally are gonna be valuable and sought after commodities. Errybody is going to be willing to turn to extreme violence just to get your stash of crops, so you're going to need to be vigilant if you want to enjoy the end of the world.

And there's another thing everybody wants that they will be willing to kill for - sex. All heterosexual men, in their desperation, will be craving intercourse more than anything else and will stop at nothing to obtain it.

Now, this presents a major problem. If we are arranged into clans or tribes, we will need women to procreate and generally for a sense of balance, but they are going to be parasites. This is because all the essential work for maintaining life (hunting, exploring, trading, etc) is going to demand physical strength, endurance and the ability to defend oneself. Women are very vulnerable, and won't be able to do any of this, so if we are to sustain their existence we will have to allow them to become parasites.

Now, if the men doing the work to sustain these women are without sex, then their happiness and morale is going to plummet and surviving may become impossible. Some people may have girlfriends/wives, but there is going to be a deficit of women because many will get killed or captured and there will not be enough pussy for every man to have a monogamous relationship.

What I am asserting is that these women need to give something back to the community, given that they are leeching off the hard work and risk taking of the men. It makes sense therefore that we abandon monogamy, and in our tribes, assign each woman the duty of sexually pleasing as many men as is necessary to make sure everybody gets laid. If you want your clan to survive, you must give up your significant other and let other men rail her so that sufficient morale is maintained.

To me, it is only reasonable that we come to this kind of agreement with our women if we are to avoid sex slavery. Women must have it engrained in their minds that their responsibility is to sexually please the men who are risking their lives, just as the men must know that it is their responsibility to risk their lives by finding food and water. Inevitably, I believe that sex slavery is going to become somewhat widespread and women will be traded like dogs. It seems that my suggestion is the only alternative, and I want to maintain the highest sense of human dignity and morality.

Now there are the practical issues which we must address. The first is the spread of diseases. Condoms are going to be a rare and valuable commodity, and it is unlikely there will be enough of them for use in all required sexual acts (but we should try to use them as much as possible, and give incentives to men to procure condoms). I think, therefore, that each woman is going to have to be assigned a small group (2-4 men) that she has sex with, and she should have sex with one of them every week. Before each man had his turn to fuck the woman he was assigned to, he would have to be checked he the doctor of the clan for any signs of disease. If the men were desperate, sexual acts with low risk of infection such as mutual masturbation, kissing and tittyfucking would be allowed whenever the men requested it.

The next issue is emotional bonding. Men may not only have lust for the women they are having sex with, but also emotional attachments. Therefore, they might feel very upset to know that other men are fucking the females they want for themselves on a regular basis. How do you think we should resolve this? I think we might be able to make arrangements where some of the more emotionally needy men get to have monogamous relationships with some of the women, but doing this effectively is going to require a lot of women in our clans. Now, for one, we may not be able to find so many women, and secondly, the more women we have, invasion from other tribes becomes increasingly likely. This is because women will be valuable commodities to those seeking to kidnap them into sex slavery, and women who are known to have had less sexual partners are going to be more desirable as they will be perceived as 'purer'. Therefore, the more wo…
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Clara Hunderham - Wed, 26 Feb 2014 17:48:04 EST FP9EGeLu No.12745 Reply
Not sure if misogynist or terribly ingrained in the whole "Guys downright deserve to fuck women" mentality.

Either way, I would probably shoot you if I met you in apocalyptic times, There's no place for old men in a new world.


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- Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:48:22 EST YQbpBzlB No.12678
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In the aftermath, liquor will be a valuable means of trade and keeping morale up as well as medical purposes. You need to know some ways of getting some good, clean alcohol.
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Phoebe Handleson - Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:29:13 EST PEZyd0pP No.12726 Reply
>But quite simply, no matter how hard you try, No matter which flavours and sugars you throw in that mix. Regardless of your setup and how fancy your equipment is. If your yeast is wild yeast. You might as well piss in a bottle and call it ale cause it'll probably taste the same.
It depends on what you're making, where you are and your luck. If you're making a sour beer, you've got a good chance at success. If you're making cider, you've got an excellent chance of success. If you're making wine, you've got a OK chance of success.

If you're making a lager, you're pretty well fucked. If you're making an ale that's not sour, you're fucked. If you're unlucky, enjoy your vinegar. Because you're fucked.

I think the history of how long it takes to domesticate yeast is hazy, since for thousands of years, people didn't even know they were using yeast. What's clear is that wild yeast is viable, but a bit of a crapshoot. If you get a wild yeast brew that's drinkable, you should brew a few batches with it. If you still like it, keep it. If not, try the crapshoot again.
William Dibbleteck - Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:41:04 EST G6HToNeh No.12731 Reply
Your post is most detailed, I think we agree on the same points but for different reasons. My aim is taste, Yours appears to be theory, which is admirable none the less, I guess it's best I take better precautions and see if any the stuff I think I know is wrong after this long.

My setup btw is brew bin, fixed side valve (2.5cm from base) drains straight into still which is basically a pressure cooker inside a water bath set to 74C. There's a removable Ssteel pipe that fits into the valve. Runs for 100ft in coil fitted to the fixed side valve inside another brew bin filled with cold water. It then drains the distillate into either bottles or into a container to be distilled again. (Only for when the taste is horrendous and you need to water it down with alcohol)

Sounds weak, But that water bath is the babe, makes the entire set-up almost stationary, just need to click a couple buttons and let it go.

Yes disinfectant was a good thing for mankind, But a barrel of brett ale (That's the name of the vinegary ales you mentioned) isn't disinfectant Its sludge waiting for the water to disappear. When it does there's where a shit load of bacteria (mostly bad) will gorge itself on leftover yeast particulates. I know that's not terribly bad or particularly unsafe, But I'd just rather not have to deal with the diarrhoea again, I learnt that lesson a long time and many, many pants ago.

Also yeast is easy, You can take a single dried brewers yeast and split it almost indefinitely if you have a refrigerator, Keep early generations chilled for a long time so that when your main culture is losing it's edge you can reintroduce a whole bunch of high quality yeast to take over again.
Ebenezer Piblingdick - Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:58:03 EST PEZyd0pP No.12736 Reply
> My aim is taste, Yours appears to be theory, which is admirable none the less, I guess it's best I take better precautions and see if any the stuff I think I know is wrong after this long.
Yeah, that's true. I don't have any experience distilling booze. I've read about it, and I know all the chemistry involved (I'ma chemist). Siphoning might help with the flavor (IDK), but It does nothing for the methanol content. homedistiller.org has a lot of info on both theory and flavor.
Sounds like a nice setup you've got.
>Also yeast is easy, You can take a single dried brewers yeast and split it almost indefinitely if you have a refrigerator, Keep early generations chilled for a long time so that when your main culture is losing it's edge you can reintroduce a whole bunch of high quality yeast to take over again.
Yeah, true. It's also possible to harvest from bottle conditioned beer. Also, if you have a fermentor that makes "topcropping" possible (taking yeast when they're floating at the top of the brew), the yeast will keep their edge almost indefinitely. THat's the original way, and some breweries still do it (granted, they still have a micro lab to keep tabs on the yeast).

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