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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
Beurocratic dystopia or post-apocalyptic wasteland? Ignore Report Reply
Sidney Blatherbanks - Wed, 14 Dec 2016 10:48:38 EST ID:U08FLdq/ No.14469
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I know that everybody preps for scenario 2 because, let's face it, guns and ammo and abandoned building are way more fun than surveillance and wage-slavery

But really it feels like scenario 1 is what "post-apocalyptic" looks more like in today's context. how the fuck do you prepare for *that*?
Oliver Shakeforth - Fri, 16 Dec 2016 00:56:53 EST ID:PAUjS2ga No.14470 Ignore Report Reply
Take back the knowledge. Take back the power. Fight Babylon.
Edwin Bardfuck - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:40:46 EST ID:3ZI22UtR No.14485 Ignore Report Reply
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get educated. stay in shape. dont do drugs so you can save the money. bang on the system as you work your way up the ladder. manage not to become jaded and bitter in the process. kill mustafa mond.
Ebenezer Bavinglut - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:39:15 EST ID:Itnv6KTL No.14487 Ignore Report Reply
Scenario 1.
I try to cultivate a few criminal skills
I try to stay off the grid as much as is practical.
I enable activists and reformists by passing on information and manuals with the means to enact action
I try to disseminate security culture
Try to maintain activist and/or criminal contacts who could provide transport, fake ID, or sundries made controlled by a cultural shift or government crackdown
Keep abreast of legal rights, support political action that tries to maintain such.
Try to set aside funds for emergencies, for provision, bail, kickbacks, etc, in a way that cannot be frozen by banks. Hopefully in a form that cannot be deprecated.

Scenario 2.
Try to keep enough bulk food in the larder to last an emergency
Stay cognisant of emergency response and follow current emergencies
try to cultivate survival skills and acquire suitable tools
Try to educate loved ones in correct emergency response
Network with neighbours, friends and family in case of protracted emergency or need to resettle.
Work to organise Bug Out Bag, Bug In Bag, I'm Never Coming Home bag, Bug Out Vehicle, Every Day Carry, etc.

A problem is diabetes medication. I can only get it on prescription, and I can only get one box at a time. So if SHTF, either politically or generally, I'll be dependant on black market drugs if I have to go underground or if the medical system is disrupted.

Also in this country weapons are illegal. Any kind of weapon. So I'm stuck with camping gear or tools that can serve as improvised weapons, and God help me if anyone has a firearm and decides to fuck with me, which would be criminals and police, the two groups I'm most worried about, and thanks to our laws, the only armed groups.
I'm good with blades and impact weapons, but I'm thinking of taking up archery. It's better than nothing.
Frederick Grimstone - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 15:51:39 EST ID:3Qw3niZH No.14503 Ignore Report Reply
I'd probably just do what I'm doing now: embrace political apathy, find a cozy job or do freelance work, find a trashy apartment in neo-tokyo, deal dissociatives on the side (because dissociatives are the most dystopian drug), spend excess money on cool future tech like virtual reality and superdrugs, join a cult for spiritual fulfillment, and listen to trap music until the impending singularity


you have been sent to the gulag
Oliver Tillinggold - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 05:48:32 EST ID:a4zzt+TS No.14582 Ignore Report Reply
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After reading this I realize we're likely living in something similar to this. I feel like we're in the precursor stage to heavy-cyberpunk. Like the weird fashions and holographic shit you see in the movies. Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell ect.

Have a feeling most of us are going to be pretty old by then..

That, or the world will look like children of men.
Edwin Nonnerman - Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:38:44 EST ID:QixSdK75 No.14673 Ignore Report Reply
I think i've been gradually realizing that "the apocolypse" has already happened. This is the new world, the old one is dead. Big brother is here and he's real and in your pocket. The president is a satire. The climate changed already. The mass-extinction started a while ago.

Oliver Cleppernerk - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 23:02:08 EST ID:VyW+r1DB No.14675 Ignore Report Reply
Beatrice Sunnerford - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:28:40 EST ID:XZfuaYX8 No.14678 Ignore Report Reply
We are super fucking dead. I remember the apocalypse.
Frederick Brooklock - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:52:03 EST ID:gHHff3SQ No.14680 Ignore Report Reply

so a true post apocalyptic world is one where we are all ghosts...
Henry Cravingbanks - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:03:25 EST ID:d+jp+Pob No.14691 Ignore Report Reply
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The west is near dead. but the rising parts of asia probably don't have enough to start with to sustain it for long. So yea, the needle is buried in the red right now.

We really need to get over this odd tribal mentality (lol arbitrary borders), and see about colonizing space or terraforming before it's too late, even though it probably is. This little mud-ball will eventually die.
Hamilton Tillingfoot - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 10:07:47 EST ID:QixSdK75 No.14692 Ignore Report Reply
> this little mudball

See that's the thing though, earth as a planet will be *fine*. I bet you crocodiles will be just dandy for yet another million years; they've survived at least a few impact winters and global extinctions already. Life, uh, finds a way.

And honestly, humans are pretty scrappy too. The 1% already control so many resources that they can literally just buy their survival from the rest of us. And on the other end of the tail you know there are at least maybe a dozen crazy-and-paranoid-in-just-the-right-way preppers who could manage the multi-decade long haul even on a scorched earth. And there's still the folks who are just downright remote enough and already tough as nails and used to living on the edge that it's just another couple of bad fucking winters for them; might not even notice that the grid went down a few back.

The rest of the 99% of the individual human population and global species biodiversity seems kinda fucked though. I don't think Mammalia will fare well in the coming epochs.
Barnaby Cidgehall - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:58:36 EST ID:d+jp+Pob No.14693 Ignore Report Reply
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See the picture I posted. I have no doubt that some people will survive most apocalyptic-style events. But there are some events that would kill us all. And eventually the damned sun will die.

Or we could just dose ourselves with enough radiation that we'd never see the surface again. That shit doesn't go away as quickly as you think, and with enough of it cycling around you would not want to be anywhere up-top.
Ian Dublingcocke - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 22:34:05 EST ID:58VVQGHK No.14695 Ignore Report Reply
>I feel like we're in the precursor stage to heavy-cyberpunk. Like the weird fashions and holographic shit you see in the movies. Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell ect.

Remember that the cyberpunk we see in Ghost In The Shell is mostly in the hands of a hyper-secret elite international police unit, and the ultra-rich they police.

It's all mundane to the protagonist, but probably more than 50% of it is secret to the general public.
Esther Crumblecocke - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:43:51 EST ID:kwgxw8zh No.14702 Ignore Report Reply
Uh no. If we don't radically "greenify" our ways of living soon, humanity will be extinct in 100,000 years. Might seem a lot, but that means humanity has only lived for 300,000 years - which means that if aliens land on Earth after a few million years, they won't even find human fossils because we haven't existed for a long enough time.

And all mammals smaller than a dog will do fine. They won't die in the upcoming mass extinction. All mammals bigger than a dog though... they're dead.
Martha Geppergold - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 06:34:52 EST ID:ER3CbNg0 No.14706 Ignore Report Reply
The thing about fossils is that it's not you have to exist long enough, it's just that the longer you live the more likely you leave a fossil. I mean some bones become fossils, it's extremely rare. Live long enough and create enough bones and the odds increase surely? There's no "too short" or "yeah we fossil now" though I get that if we die in 100000 years we're very unlikely to leave a fossil. There may however be other evidence of our existence such as a mass extinction and it's likely those aliens will have navigated many of the hazards we did (and whatever we fell at) and so will be aware of the ways civilisation can end and so know the signs.

They will however be grimly aware that we didn't even leave enough evidence that they could reconstruct our DNA or even resurrect us.
hu - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 05:07:16 EST ID:TuTr+WkJ No.14708 Ignore Report Reply

tbh me too i was tripping on 2cb and saw nukes drop or some sort of missile
Cedric Lightford - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 15:43:10 EST ID:wfqIie8O No.14720 Ignore Report Reply
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ahhh this thread is blackpills
A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 23:17:01 EST ID:Gt88cdkf No.14723 Ignore Report Reply
Yeah, but even in GitS, they admitted that everything will still be known on the chans.
Heather !VZj063fzwU - Wed, 23 May 2018 01:16:32 EST ID:pWyizGRK No.14728 Ignore Report Reply
>beurocratic dystopia
fucking hilarious OP
that's real slick social commentary there
Frederick Gittingmark - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:09:13 EST ID:gmQ697bO No.14730 Ignore Report Reply
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>But really it feels like scenario 1 is what "post-apocalyptic" looks more like in today's context. how the fuck do you prepare for *that*?
You're right, OP. We shouldn't just be preparing for the second scenario, we should be hoping for it and actively working towards it. Human beings of average/below-average IQ are all too content at being slaves as long as they're well-fed and wealthy, as well entertained with all kinds of political distractions.

The Tracer Tong option is increasingly becoming the only thing that could give us a chance at building a libertarian society based on voluntary interaction.
Graham Blicklefield - Sat, 23 Jun 2018 03:37:21 EST ID:gwgJxdSL No.14736 Ignore Report Reply
You forgot Jesus: the ultimate white pill.
Emma Minkinmot - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 11:06:19 EST ID:XpUZoPZw No.14741 Ignore Report Reply
The question is, why would you want to survive in a situation like that?
Nell Greenlock - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:25:20 EST ID:1yAzFaxH No.14747 Ignore Report Reply
Who here has read Desert? We're all fucked, climate change is well past the point where we can "fix" it. So let's just get high in the mean time! Remember everyone freaking out about the world ending in 2012? They say it didn't happen, but maybe it did! Maybe the world ended and no body even noticed! Nobody cared enough to stop working, to stop fucking, to stop shooting up! That's the apocalypse mankind deserves, what could be more poetic?
Who wouldn't want to live to see that beautiful irradiated eden?
Sophie Blatherwater - Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:41:49 EST ID:OHUcVSZC No.14750 Ignore Report Reply

If the world was ending I would want to work as hard as possible and go out with a bang. Why just do drugs all day and accept defeat that easily?
Reuben Fankinhood - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:20:42 EST ID:wBLLF+m6 No.14774 Ignore Report Reply
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Archie Nellywut - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 20:20:21 EST ID:eHf8lHL/ No.14782 Ignore Report Reply
It's the mentally of the people. Egyptian writings might have measured the numbers of people increasing from space being born here. They would evolve and change the creational being on Earth because their experiences are in a closer link.
Eugene Gunderfidging - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:14:37 EST ID:Z/6YL3h2 No.14786 Ignore Report Reply
This thread reminds me of the ‘280s. A lot has happened since the chrononnihilation event, but yeah basically before we got to enjoy a lawless free for all, we had to enjoy the wagestallionery of the 2281 imperial economic edict or AIEE screamed really loudly as our spinal bases snapped by our toddler beaurecrat overlords.

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