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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Drugs in post apoc

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- Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:48:10 EST 3TTLvUOk No.12986
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Now since this is a drug board.

What drugs do you take with you? I'd set up a mobile meth lab and be meth'd out constantly, and have a hydro grow set up for weed and opium in the RV. A little bit of meth keeps the mind sharp and the paranoia extreme. Good for this situation I'd say.

>spun out on uncut shard
>sniping zombies for hours daily
>manufacturing drugs

Sounds damn fun
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Martha Gubbleworth - Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:10:51 EST ZqIOAjhj No.12987 Reply
KROKODIL.
TO BLEND IN WITH ZOMBIES.
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Basil Pobblelick - Mon, 21 Apr 2014 23:15:03 EST AAa1CAly No.12988 Reply
>>12986

Mushrooms. I'll become the high priest of the new world.
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Polly Barddale - Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:54:05 EST lBlWXTEM No.13003 Reply
>>12986
Slight amounts of meth actually do sound beneficial in a life-or-death situation like that, the way pilots running missions all day took it. Id probably save the meth for high-risk times like moves between locations though.
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Frederick Bommlehock - Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:58:01 EST 6WMcEU/o No.13004 Reply
>>12986
if survival is your goal i would just find someplace remote enough to be almost completely void of zombies for the rest of your life seeing how they don't reproduce

youmight as well play counter strike and do meth if thats all you want you little cunt
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Hamilton Trotbury - Wed, 23 Apr 2014 21:31:17 EST pJrVEFpC No.13005 Reply
>>12986

Mobile lab would be a great idea to get everything moving quickly if you're surrounded or trapped but how would you power a hydro operation and as soon as you had to move the plants would more then likely fly everywhere's in the back. I like the idea though but the power would be the hardest thing to figure out. I'd probably have the mobile lab for whatever drugs don't need much power to make and just stick to the old fashion growing out-doors unless you can figure out the power situation I'd be all for the hydro in the apocalypse haha.
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Cyril Sizzlelock - Wed, 23 Apr 2014 23:58:46 EST aSbYuMRh No.13006 Reply
For myself: DXM. Go full on god-mode, numb as fuck, feeling on top of the world, dat tussin strength.

For the zombies: DPH. They won't be able to distinguish real people from hallucinations.
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Cedric Cracklewell - Thu, 24 Apr 2014 05:36:38 EST gHSuzUYF No.13007 Reply
>>12986
Crohn's disease here

I'll just stick with my script of

>Opiates
Pain relief, obviously. Helps with any emergency surgery with other survivors, can also stop the shits.

>Benzos
Anxiety? No more when you're out raiding, killing Z's and screwing stuff up. Or sleeping.

>Steroids
Great boost of energy, can turn into the hulk and bulk up (well, Prednisolone isn't specifically for that) over time. Downsides are that you might fly into a rage and kill fellow survivors you don't wish to.

>Caffeine
More a supplement, but 200mg tabs work well

Ideally I'd like some Coke or other stimulants. Staying away from any psychedelics or lethargy-inducing drugs. Can't be tripping in the Apocalypse, yo.
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Eugene Hivingridge - Thu, 24 Apr 2014 14:24:43 EST 5KMrqNpQ No.13008 Reply
>>12986
Seroquel, for sleepy time and some other interrogatory needs (it is proven that if you get someone in a really sleep deprived state then they will tell you anything), aspirin, ibuprofen, ranitidine, opiate painkillers, shooters (for nonbleeding pain), nicotine patches, caffeine pills, light methamphetamine (adderal and whatnot), and of course the pot.
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Oliver Greencocke - Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:31:26 EST 9XB/aGtE No.13018 Reply
Only thing I know is that demand for psychedelic drugs will be so low they'd dissapear.
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Polly Grandbanks - Tue, 29 Apr 2014 05:28:24 EST maEHnBrn No.13024 Reply
Well first, I gotta have the herb. Sleep aid, keeps me on the level, and if Im going to die in the wasteland I have to take out a blunt and get one last puff like a boss. Now that I think about it, keeping an emergencey apocalypse stash doesnt sound like a bad idea.

And i gotta have caffeine all day erryday. Those 200 mg pills are bad ass, theyre like Mentats irl.
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Graham Brosslewat - Sun, 04 May 2014 00:25:21 EST B6Mfdh0f No.13033 Reply
Another question could be what kind of new drugs would the world have?
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Nicholas Nongersidge - Wed, 28 May 2014 04:57:47 EST RjgzDufa No.13089 Reply
Being a speed head myself, any form of amphetamine or similar substance would be such a fucking help when shit hits the fan.

Upsides
>Motivation
>Energy
>Fixing problems/Find solutions you may not have thought of working otherwise
>Get your money's worth out of a prostitute
>Hunger no more

Bad
>Speed+Doing hard ass shit= racing heart
>Daily use would lead to fuck all tolerance and not do you any good
>YOU MAY EVENTUALLY RUN OUT but if you have speed and want more in a post apoc world all them cabinets to raid
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Emma Gillerpatch - Sat, 31 May 2014 22:32:12 EST wVEAgPEV No.13098 Reply
I would attempt to produce heroin so i could get people addicted and have an army of slave junkies
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Oliver Gusslewig - Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:19:58 EST sYuk9bwl No.13855 Reply
I don't smoke cigarettes, but I am stealing as much as I can when shit hits the fan. Sooner or later everyone who fought and struggled to raid hardware, gun and grocery stores are going to need to get their fix and as long as I stay armed I can trade a few packs for food. I will need to hide my stash though so people wont just beat me up/kill me and take it.

Taking anything that requires a needle seems to be a good way to get HIV though.
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cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Sat, 11 Apr 2015 16:27:44 EST 8RYncBiW No.13859 Reply
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>>12986
>methamphetamine
>3-Meo-PcP
>dexamphetamine
>DxM
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Emma Dickledock - Mon, 13 Apr 2015 01:51:56 EST YzQSTD1B No.13860 Reply
>Weed
>Coffee
>Opium
>Tobacco
>Alcohol
>Peyote
>Shrooms

Weed, I'd keep that shit with me everywhere. Plant a few where ever I set up base at, it's a good trade commodity for more uses rather then just smoking. Start up a textile industry if I get comfy enough. Constantly breed some and keep the baby plants in smaller pots, just in case I need to bail and I want to bring a plant with me.

Coffee for all that god damn caffeine. Straight caffeine is similar to cocaine, just not nearly as potent and less harmful. It's not just the beans that have the caffeine, the leaves can be chewed or made into a tea. Staying on edge when you need it most is crucial, and nothing helps better then a good old fashioned cup of joe.

Opium, because I'm gonna need some painkillers. A shot of whiskey will only go so far; I'd rather have something much more powerful if I'm gonna fix some broken bones.

People have been smoking Tobacco for ages. I might die any day, I might as well take a puff of a cigar that I grew, dried, trimmed, then rolled myself. Also, trade goods.

Alcohol for disinfecting things, getting drunk, and trading. I'm not really all that big into drinking, but that doesn't mean getting people drunk doesn't have it's benefits.

Peyote would be a problem, but it's not impossible to grow it. A good trip once in awhile to restore some spirit, bond with your teammates, and feel like a motherfucking indian.

Shrooms, not even just magic mushrooms. You can grow those fuckers out of a cardboard box with a little dirt shoveled in. It's a good food source, and it's nice to trip out once in awhile
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Nigger Blattingstone - Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:38:24 EST oJxMm3tP No.13889 Reply
>>13007
>Crohn's disease here
implying you're going to last in a zombie apocalypse. you also wont be able to refil any of those meds once you run out of your script.
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Hugh Brookhall - Wed, 06 May 2015 19:58:29 EST Wtc+ezwL No.13912 Reply
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>>13098
what would you do with this army of slave junkies?? sounds like this could be a story worth reading
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Isabella Dipperwater - Wed, 06 May 2015 20:05:45 EST Wtc+ezwL No.13913 Reply
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slow zombies= any drugs i can find
fast zombies= just one syringe full of enough heroin to kill an elephant
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William Henderdock - Sat, 16 May 2015 14:32:44 EST KP5dWD72 No.13921 Reply
I'd smoke a whole pound of check.
>>13914
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William Henderdock - Sat, 16 May 2015 14:33:21 EST KP5dWD72 No.13922 Reply
>>13922
Oops, accidentially failed check.
IN A WORLD
WITH NO CHECKS
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Martin Bunderwill - Mon, 25 May 2015 02:24:07 EST cgGck+UX No.13942 Reply
>>12986
Honestly, at this point in my life, I could grow and forage just about whatever mental affects I want... But I'd still stockpile racetams and LSD, since it would be easier.
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Basil Pockwater - Tue, 26 May 2015 02:49:29 EST vu1jagXA No.13943 Reply
Wait, what would I take WITH ME? Well let's see, weed, tramadol, aspirin, NSAID/real aspirin, ibuprofen, codeine, diphenhydramine, LSA and uhh, whatever else I can readily get my hands on. Medicine is a powerful bartering chip dawg.
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John Dravingwater - Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:55:43 EST A/tLXkYy No.13964 Reply
>>13943
Good drugs ARE medicine. Fuck, why would you bring any opiate pills, when you could have opium and poppy seeds?
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Martin Blillerhood - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 03:44:05 EST rj6pNRHr No.13967 Reply
>>12986
I'm in Colorado so I think that pot will be goodly available for a long time in the apoc. I don't think that I will need much else, I will be able to get my hands on weed for all occasions (different strains in the sativa and indica families). That and that alone will be all I'd really need.
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Walter Fanderkut - Thu, 18 Jun 2015 23:04:46 EST +Q/s6CP6 No.13972 Reply
>>12986
Literally all of them. While your pranging out trying to avoid inevitable death i'll be snuggled up in a drug induced bliss (Hopefully i'd last a few months).
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Oliver Mittingheg - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 00:03:46 EST vu1jagXA No.13973 Reply
>>13964

I have hybrid marijuana seeds, poppy seeds, exotic brugmansia and datura seeds(including jimsonweed), uhh. Morning glory seeds for LSA production, and I think that's all the psychotropic and alkaloid laden seeds I got right now.
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Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:51:23 EST se5Bm5b7 No.13980 Reply
>>13973
Marijuana and poppy seeds ends the morphine and pot debacle right there. Those things grow like weeds in Europe and South East Asia.
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Molly Chonninglure - Sun, 26 Jul 2015 12:47:48 EST 9qYJPkWk No.14010 Reply
>>13860

your selection is great seeing as they are mostly natural and somewhat easy to produce... but this is an apoc and there is radioactive fallout everywhere so yeah sorry to bring you the facts...
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Clara Gudgepatch - Mon, 27 Jul 2015 01:28:49 EST 60M2eA2e No.14011 Reply
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Honestly I'd kick pot for a while. That shit wouldn't be good while struggling to not die. Would bring seeds with me though.

I would bring meth and any painkillers I could find and look for an unpopulated area with decent soil, then set up shop there and cultivate food and every psychoactive I could.

Would also hoard any drug at all I found on the move. If I don't want it, surely someone will. Drugs would probably be worth quite a bit in that situation.

I'd be a crazy old hermit with loads of drugs and no cares while the rest of the world duked it out.
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Doris Dollystine - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 06:37:10 EST x/LopDUP No.14018 Reply
>>12986

id like a supply of weed but it seems like something i wouldn't take because it would inevitably end up getting me killed

get smoke
let guard down
eaten by zombies

no thanks
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Nigger Murdlock - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 19:50:35 EST OYUd4NCi No.14019 Reply
just do some bath salts and you can blend in with the zombies
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Nathaniel Clucklefield - Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:28:40 EST zKALiUcP No.14048 Reply
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>>12986
> 10 years after the great war
> rather than dense cities most people move out to rural farming communities.
> towns sprout up every 10 miles or sow
> Lawyers, office workers, and CEO's all become skilled tradesman
> trade is usually done on horseback or where gas is available from vehicles
> trade for metals, wood, tools, work, meat, vegetables, bread, precious metals
> especially a black market for weed, hard narcotics, and locally made booze or beer(liquor stores are all dried up)
> most towns don't enforce drug laws as a waste of time
> we 1800's frontier town now
> no phones, no TV, no internet, but some radio communications
> 40 acre plots per household
> enough land to grow crops, cattle, picks and chickens
> neighbors helping neighbors

That is how I picture my post apocalyptic dream, the first 10 years after the apocalypses were lawless, brutal, and dangerous, but humanity dropped it's swords and reforged them into picks and shovels and began to rebuild.
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Marty Prince - Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:40:18 EST TJO/v10h No.14084 Reply
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>>12986
You seem like a good addition to the team, respond to this and you're in.
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Oliver Brinkindock - Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:03:16 EST K48qdaYw No.14092 Reply
>>14048

Except it will always be easier to loot and pillage than to sit around and scratch out a living from the dirt.
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David Sipperforth - Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:46:32 EST 4Z0+8uhN No.14095 Reply
>>12986
I'm in California, so, raid some fuckin dispensaries. Otherwise whatever I could scrounge except opiates, don't want -2 PER and dry sweats from withdrawals when I can't find enough, or to be nodding during a survival situation although that seems to work just fine for Afghan Armed Forces.
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Nell Suttinglack - Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:38:58 EST VtcQTTVk No.14101 Reply
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Assuming there's some kind of warning pre-apocalypse and I had time to gather my kit, here's what I'd take.

  1. Psilocybe mushroom spore syringe

2. Ganja seeds

3. Chisel (for making pipes, tools etc.)

4. More ganja seeds

5. Papaver Somniferum seeds, because ease of cultivation and potentially infinite amount of seeds (tradeable). Also because fuck yes opium

6. Trusty refillable lighter

7. Small glass jars (for preserving mushroom powder, ganj, etc.)

8. A bronze knife, as they're durable as fuck and easy to maintain
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Dr.Mario - Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:57:39 EST G3yRzxTp No.14150 Reply
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>>14048
This to some extent, though I think it would take longer than 10 years.

For me personally,
>pull my 150lbs of dank poppy seeds out of storage
>Sell them only in washed jug tea form, save seeds for planting
>Plant the seeds around my eventual property or sell spent seeds for growing
>Smoked weed for years, don't do it anymore but have ~10g and 100+ seeds
>Sell and grow my own
>Trade for ingredients with the Amish and make/sell bootleg liquor
>Use stored spore prints/syringes to grow shrooms or make spores from wild, even though low value. Only need heat and my pressure cooker
>Troll around with big guns and hunt/forage/ casually pick off zombies with .22s all day as my crops grow.
>Keep 100g caffeine jar, trade stimulants for that rib eye
>Have a butt ton of antibiotics from 3 trips overseas, never opened or used

Sounds sort of fun to me.
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Martha Seddlelidge - Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:31:48 EST ZyPVyj2X No.14155 Reply
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>>12986
Start plantation. Of bud. Smoke it all day every day forEVER.

Assuming I'm a stone cold badass master of all melee weaponry and a fair archer whilst being sadly under-experienced with guns:

>Raiders come
>Give us all your food and weed
>Dude here hit this shit
>Now have personal militia
>ENEMY arrives
>Militia stops them
>Still getting ripped as fuck
>Life is way fuckin better than it ever was
>mfw
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A Wizard - Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:50:55 EST Y51oHzXQ No.14161 Reply
>>14155

Weed is also food, so you know xD.


As for everyone complaining about ammo... Wtf guys? Learn to make your own ammo, or don't bother with a gun. It's really not that hard to do, though specialized equipment goes a long way in speeding up the process.
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Betsy Dartway - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:28:50 EST 1DzpQVcD No.14178 Reply
>>14092
This would imply a community would not band together and defend there homes and property to the death from marauders.
>>14150
Maybe closer to 20, but when you think about it such a world would not be so bad. Will you have to work? Yes. Will it Suck? Yes. But at the end of the day we finnaly get to see humanity in it's purest form.
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Jarvis Femmlesudging - Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:32:54 EST pxI+uCUP No.14202 Reply
Amphetamine-capsules (adderall) for long drives or endurance-flying/running. Helps with the whole not crashing that million-dollar plane when you get tired. Can help you too.

I am recently sober from suboxone for this very reason, I dont want to have to rely on suboxone films to maintain functionality when supply-lines go down.That being said, I plan on maintaining a store of Kratom (my DOC) for the downtime when SHTF.

Also storing tobacco/snuff en masse and I have seeds for growing some sativa when the police go AWOL.

Make sure if your legit about setting up a grow PSHTF, you have rolls of barbed wire and plenty of ammo to defend your plot with.
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Henry Bagglestedge - Thu, 19 Nov 2015 01:07:54 EST 0jZTtwUe No.14212 Reply
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I would think the most valuable and in demand drug right after the appocalypse would be Methamphetamine. However ten or twenty years after the appocalypse most amphetamine users would be dead.
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Edward Faffinghark - Sat, 05 Dec 2015 21:13:49 EST 6ZMJ7p9a No.14223 Reply
>>14212 they will be war heroes that restored the order for a new start, but die trying
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Sidney Mellygold - Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:14:17 EST 55iVu+1/ No.14260 Reply
>>12986
Depends. I would convert a Bluebird School bus into my mobile home/lab.
> DMX
DMX would be my first choice, cough syrup would be plentiful and in just about every corner store in America. And it is very easy to refine making a gram at a time with nothing but a rocket stove and a few pots and pans.
> Meth
Meth would be my second favoring the Shake-n-Bake Method, You will have an ok supply until every shelf of pseudoephedrine dries up and you are forced to raid homes. I expect the street value to skyrocket on this stuff.
> Alcohol
Wine, Beer, Brandy and Whiskey. Wine is easy to make and only requires sugar, yeast and fruit juice. Whiskey requires a lot more equipment, the same with beer and brandy, but a bottle of that would be enough to trade or for my own amusement.

> Mushrooms
Easy to grow so long as I have the right conditions, however getting the culture and spores in the post-apctolyptic world will be difficult. I would have to start before SHTF

> Cannabis
I have weed at the end because it requires so much time and care with a typical growing season taking 2-3 months and a lot of care. However weed would have a wider customer base with little to no law stopping me.

Other drugs like Heroin, and Cocaine I won't touch unless I can get a supply of it, I can't make it in the states so I would have to take over someone else's operation or steal it.
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Dr. Mario - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:57:53 EST G3yRzxTp No.14267 Reply
>>14150
Just an update from a few months ago:

I notice a common trend of people mentioning these wonder drugs that they "plan" to find once it happens, or they mention like 3 scripts they own as if that 2 weeks worth of doses (assuming you have 30 day scripts so on average you'll have half your stock) will actually do you anything.

All I'm reading that as is "I'm physically dependent to both opioids and benzos, and I'm pretty much a dying sloth after my 17 days of government drug rations runs out, but that's ok because I'm gonna find other rare and valuable drugs that everyone else also wants and are looking for."

That's kind of like posting in a PA gun thread saying "id have a SPAS 12 with 4000 slug rounds complimented by an HK .45 pistol" when you haven't even shot a gun before, or the only gun in your family is a rusted .22 bolt action that sits unloaded in your potting shed.

>more importantly, what actions are you taking to establish chemical independence from your medical script? 2 weeks is enough to taper if you're lucky, but ultimately that tiny amount will never be enough for trade.

After some thought, ive added some drugs to my ordered list so that I'm a walking pharmacy

>1g of decent quality etizolam powder, volumetric dosing in PG solution 1mg/ml
>300mg U-47700, basically synthetic hydromorphone
>a pack of 28g needles, but still working on getting those from a needle exchange
>enough for surgeries, pain/insomnia, junky and alcoholic withdrawals, recreation, the etizolam will be a crude booze dispenser, with a shot of PG feeling like 50 shots of rum
>100 pack of LSA seeds, cheap and somewhat worthless, yes, but lightweight and strong, less perishable than shrooms
>5g of some meh quality Ethylphenidate, its pretty much ritalin
>sold my poppy seedsso ill slowly build the stock back up

Tl;Dr why arent you stocked up on cheap RCs, especially if you have physical dependencies? Poppy seeds etc.?

>you might as well be a diabetic without insulin at that point, no offence.

Lord knows my group wont accept witbdrawaling strangers with nothing to offer but the kitchen knives hanging from their belts
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Ernest Pullykick - Sun, 31 Jan 2016 16:26:13 EST 8e20xajQ No.14280 Reply
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>Modnifil.
>Diazepam.
>THC concentrate Tablets.
>Caffeine Supplements
>A wine cellar.
>Anabolic Steroids
>Antibiotics

I would operate from an uparmored A-Tean Style van off of an abandoned airfield.
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Phyllis Shittingson - Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:42:53 EST JEIVDxQ5 No.14330 Reply
All the materials to grow or synthesize:
>Weed
>Heroin
>A Dank Benzo
>Rushing Water
>Ultrajet
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Sophie Huvingchet - Sun, 03 Apr 2016 01:06:39 EST L0lDoT9B No.14333 Reply
In my Bug out bag med-kit the drugs i currently have are :

> 120 x 15mg / 500mg mg Codeine / APAP tablets
> 500 x 50mg DPH capsule's
> 180 x 5mg Dexamphetamine
> 100 x 300mg Pregablin capsules
> 40 x 30 mg Morphine tablets
> 40 x 20mg Oxycontin ( Not OP so can be crushed )

RC's in there are mainly Flubromazolam or U-47700 powder in vials that i can mix up to volumetrically dose if needed. Most of this stuff is from old scripts i have had or when i have spares left at the end of the month, i do break into it sometimes but i try hard not to.

I do think Meth would be a good thing to keep in there as well but i could probably trade some of my pot / seeds for it if needed.
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Edward Babberlire - Tue, 24 May 2016 13:22:21 EST 2BdnlbER No.14364 Reply
>>14260

/dis/ here, what is this extraction you speak of
>implying you're ever going to see this
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William Fiffingnit - Sat, 25 Jun 2016 18:54:30 EST stWKF3qD No.14387 Reply
>>14267

>complaining about people talking about what drugs people want to take in a fictional apocalypse because it's unrealistic

Great job
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Kaoru Starkid - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 23:07:42 EST iO2AxJ80 No.14388 Reply
Comment> Radioactive Vodka
> That strain of weed that started walking around
> Experimental Chemicals from the Nuclear Winter
And all of the above at once, but just once a year, "the world is changin' man.."
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bittersalt - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:23:17 EST ux68iakl No.14433 Reply
>shit ton of THC wax
>LSD for kicks
>Shit ton of painkillers
>lil bit of meth for certain situations
>vodka for sleep / taking the edge off
>maybe some benzos?

Basically I'd hide in a camper full of drugs in the middle of an abandoned small town and set up traps everywhere.
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Oliver Nicklefield - Mon, 24 Oct 2016 10:11:06 EST EBKUCgnj No.14446 Reply
>>14333
There's no way you actually have that much drugs stored away and not using em
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Isabella Clapperfield - Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:44:54 EST T3ZypsGg No.14454 Reply
depends on the scenerio

antibiotics
pain killers
for the most part...

i can see why you would want meth, but i did meth once and stayed up for 3 days
which was retarded
maybe i did to much

i can't think of anything else other than for trading
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Molly Manningnidging - Sat, 12 Nov 2016 22:16:31 EST +sp1plIE No.14455 Reply
>>14454
When I smoked gack, I got tired. What the fuck is wrong with me?
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Nathaniel Hacklepidge - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 15:17:51 EST +0kVXJXu No.14484 Reply
>>14455
I see that happen every once in a while.
It could be the person, it could be that there's fentanyl in the speed. They put that shit in everything now.
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Onir - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:32:12 EST z24zJH9W No.14489 Reply
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>>14433 Having food in the post-apocalypse makes you a target but having drugs makes you shine like a beacon.
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Molly Buzzlock - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:14:01 EST o1cmy15v No.14490 Reply
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>Industrial Hemp
Considering it's pretty versatile in terms of where it grows (keeping in mind the earth will only get warmer as time goes on), hemp could effectively provide resources you'd actually need in a post-apoc world (textiles, building materials). On top of that: the ability to make concentrates if you really wanted to. Less THC than today's modern nugs, but industrial hemp's going to keep you clothed and stoned.

(Shrooms out of the question, they could kill the whole crop, eh?)
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Clara Punkinfitch - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:59:28 EST l89dSNbw No.14491 Reply
>>14490
Hemp has no thc/psycho active propertries.
This is what it hemp.
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Shitting Brookfield - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 21:49:22 EST TYNJPizq No.14496 Reply
grow grass in a clearing in the woods ;-)
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 09 Feb 2017 12:49:09 EST +ncGR0SZ No.14498 Reply
>>14267
Wow. I used to have a lot of drugs.


U-47 got returned to vendor because U-47 is illegal in my state now. I actually sold the etizolam in solution for like $250. I'm out of LSA seeds and that poppy seed stash is long used/sold. Ethylphenidate is basically now unavailable in the US and I'm out.

>what I'm adding

  1. Modafinil (either 20 or 40 pills to try)

2. Powdered etizolam and diclazepam because they're legal and not as debilitating as cLam. Also some quality pellets of said drug. Maybe xanax powder but I'm too afraid of ordering 500 bars worth of raw powder to my house. In the apocalypse nobody will tell the difference between xanax and etizolam apart from taste anyways. Basically as much as I can carry because they're so small.

3. Poppy seeds again, but no need for that much. Seeds are too bulky to really carry around day in and day out. More than 10lbs would suck with all your other shit.

4. LSD blotters (20 X 100ug)- weigh nothing, so if you get three cans of beans per blotter it's always worth the trade. More well known than LSA. HBW seeds are still worth hoarding but it's not the same. These simply won't be created anymore. Blotter paper itself will dry up and be nonexistent. I figure it's longer lasting and subjectively more stimulating/visual/enjoyable than shrooms when you have a horrible set and setting. Shrooms are a solid choice too but they take up way more space per dose. Shrooms would be better to focus on after the Apocalypse hits. All you need is PF Tek supplies and one spore syringe. You can make spawn syringes by filling matured cake jars with water, shaking, and drawing up the water with a syringe. Rinse repeat. But honestly the demand for psychedelics just won't be there until later.

5. VAC SEALED weed (by the half ounce or ounce with mixed strains)- once the power goes out, vac sealing will be rare. This will mean stealthy weed other people can't smell and therefore steal from you. They will also know that it's pre-apocalypse weed of dispensary quality.

Also my state has good laws. Under 100g is like no jail time at all. 100-200g is only 90 days max IIRC. So basically a short half pound (7oz in weed weight is usually ~196g) or less and you're good to go. 200g+ is 1 year in state prison. Such jokes compared to the South. After learning this I think I'll never get over 7oz again. 90 days is a joke.

6. Booze booze booze (tons of spirits and wine leftover from a wedding)- everybody should have a handle or two of something, even if it's $12 a handle garbage vodka. People will pay more for old world liquor than moonshine. That $24 will never go to waste no matter what you do with it. Drink it, sell it to teens, whatever.

7. Vyvanse script- yeah we will only have probably 10-15 pills before the apocalypse would happen, but definitely a life saver. So long acting.

8. All the common OTC drugs

Advil is worthless until you're the only guy in the camp with a bottle. Some of these bottles have 50, 100, hell 365 pills. We all know that if someone was hungry as shit they would trade like 100 advil for a 6oz serving of meat. 300 advil don't mean shit to someone with more advil. But they're so cheap that anything you get for them is worth it.

Same way with dph, NSAIDS, whatever. They won't be gems but they're worth their space.

9. Tobacco and PAPERS- people will buy and sell bowls and stuff but chances are they're too rare outside of cities/houses, so the occasional smoker might not buy your herb or baccy off you if they don't have a convenient smoking method. If you can save up say 10 packs of papers you can roll cigs with pouch tobacco all day.

However my gut tells me that desperate people will be 50/50 sell me all your booze for my last meal/ I have no use for that garbage it will get my family killed. There's little point in growing drugs when 9/10 times growing food is better use of the plot.

>most common "soft" Drugs will be worth less relative to the cost of living in the apocalypse assuming there's no longer a war on drugs

>Unless you've got really hard drugs (opioids, stimulants, and benzos) it's very unlikely that you can get by simply as a drug salesman in the apocalypse. Youre almost better off drugging peoples drink with like 20mg etizolam and nabbing all their gear/guns/supplies.

Drugs are dangerous because they are worth more than their weight in gold. Proper stashing and fragmenting the stock is the only way to survive. You will become the talk of the town if you stay in one place for too long. Some drugs will get stolen at gun point. Better to pretend they found your stash that was only 10% of it all than get shot over it.

Btw by far the best thing to trade commodities like drugs for will be ammo not food, specifically common rounds like 9mm and .22 fmj target ammo (especially .22 for their low weight).

Shooting large game without laws, gutting it and serving it to entire camps where everyone can barter their way to the dining table will be the best way to prevent meat from spoiling. It's better to trade two pounds of so-so uncooked uncured meat for 1lb of canned beans when you have a 70lb deer going bad in the shed.

Even if you don't have a gun, that is what you will want. Preserved food, clean water, and ammo for trade. People will treat them like coins. Don't fall for Gold or Silver as those are only good long term and tend to not be small enough for micro transactions. Don't forget about fake gold and silver too.

Also be sure to buy up drugs and other shit with your low weight commodity (cash dollar bills) early on before the dumb people realize cash is nearly worthless. If it's before we are certain ones entire country is fucked, then cash will still have some value. When katrina hit dollars were still king as they were still accepted elsewhere in the country. Be sure to convert it to ammo or drugs etc in time.

I'm just pissed that I bought a brand new DB9 and it's garbage and keeps jamming.
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Nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:31:12 EST pCHaD0tA No.14501 Reply
Alcohol is a good bet. yes I realise there will be grog available that's been made in stills. However I think there will be people wanting their old favourite brands and willing to swap. Not even covering those who might have no contact with others except an occasional meeting to talk and trade a little.

Personally I would make it my priority to hit up pharmacy's as I'm on methadone and also have a benzo addiction so I'd need to take care of that. Pharmaceutical painkillers, especially opiates like morphine will be worth a lot I figure. Along with methamphetamine. People will be feeling scared and confused, they'll want to feel good
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Hamilton Bibberridge - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 14:54:55 EST OvSaMD6n No.14544 Reply
Doods, just pick up a local plant identification book n bookmark the edible ones n get to know them... There, food done without wasting precious time and life hunting n then bringing greed into the equation and like putting money signs on an animal that was free until you decided to follow it n murder it... For monetary gains. This greed thing is what is gonna cause an apocalypse for real lol. It's cool if your in an unfamiliar area and your starving, otherwise time is better invested in learning how to make bacon flavored jerky out of nuts( yes, real and can be done) or other dank easy to pick in the same spot kind of snack... Also naturally grow lotsa grourmet mushrooms easy peasy spinach patch and so sort of oil producing plant, maybe sesame? (coz dense calories and yea solar deep frying in the post apocalypse

And you do NOT absolutely need a pressure cooker to grow shrooms, just find it's natural climate and aerate your spores in a few gallons of clean water, throw that water everywhere it should be able to grow, odds are with you than it will take over in at least a few spots, if not everywhere....
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Wesley Havingsire - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 20:13:05 EST gTXxpiZD No.14562 Reply
>>13859
3-Meo-PcP
into the novel dissos i see, would be hard to find if you ran out.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:30:18 EST MtZyhAgA No.14623 Reply
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>>14498
Ample weed secured. Need more poppy seeds, but as I battle addiction I can't be certain I can handle having like 100lb. However, some day good seeds might be rare. I hypothesize that at random, I'll have 2-4lb of poppy seeds, which is actually a lot like 200mg oxycodone easily. You could probably trade a pound for a massive beef cooked meal for 4-6 people, water included, for a pound.

I need more benzo pills lol. I'm all out and sold powder/solution.

My wife gets dextroamphetamine finally. Thankfully we aren't addicted, so that's good.

I'm not physically dependent on opi anymore, just mental/psych addiction & PAWS. So stuff like multi gram gabapentin, lunesta, promethazine, hydroxyzine might come in handy.

We do need more booze though lol. I only have like 10 shots left.

If this thread taught us anything, it's to keep a handle of booze in the house. And more ammo.

I live on a stable farm now in the country so im probably a 7.5/10 for survival chance, at least location wise. There's lots of horse meds, strong ones too that would help with human surgery without wasting opis.

I need to get liquid clam or another strong benzo, as that shit will be worth THOUSANDS per bottle and it's the PERFECT med for the apocalypse.

>People get too benzd to care and trade all their shit for it,
>constantly roofie people by accident and on purpose
>free shit galore

Oh, and I have enough high quality medical pot for a joint a day for at least 1 whole year.

I see this as super simple minded and not diversified, but such a quantity (including 100s of grams of AVB, perfect to mix with baccy for 0 tolerance people, which most smokers will be lower tolerance) is more than enough to barter in the apocalypse.

>mfw watching Z Nation again in prep for Season 4

Better get the seeds coming in September boys; they're be 1.5-3x as strong.

Only thing Id be fucked on is efficiency loss from not being able to vape anymore. I'll need to master the lightbulb vape or whatever.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:34:35 EST MtZyhAgA No.14624 Reply
>>14623
Oh yeah suboxone too. I would guess that 0 tolly people will like how long lasting and functional suboxone is. 10 8.6mg tablets isn't much, but for other people that could last over a month.

>the most important thing is to NOT get physically dependent, as you are worthless in the apocalypse

Oh yeah, i got 4 clean 28ga syringes. I need to turn 2 of them into narcan shots but all in good time.
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DrM !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 04 Sep 2017 12:53:12 EST mpWk37Jl No.14646 Reply
>>14623
>~500mg etiz powder in storage

YESSS

I'm going to lock away 2g etiz, 2g diclaz, and 1g cLam soon enough. As in, buried in the yard.
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Heather !VZj063fzwU - Wed, 23 May 2018 01:10:58 EST pWyizGRK No.14725 Reply
>>12986
stfu methguy
In post apoc we need aspirin, allergy medicine, and if you want to get fucked up go find some alcohol.
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Nigel Bardman - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 17:09:05 EST QiMaW5/L No.14798 Reply
How exactly are you going to source meth precursors post-apocalyptic?
Any quantity of stuff in "storage" isn't great; it'll make you a target and potentially spoil if it gets wet. More importantly it'll run out.

The only things that make any sense are those that are renewable, so a still isn't a bad idea (though it can use a lot of fuel and the smoke will draw attention to your position) plus botanicals (weed, shrooms, cacti) that suit your climate. There may not be a huge demand for all of them but it's a steady drip of income rather than one limited amount, that's preferable by far. You'd never have a lot at any one time, making you less of a target.
Perhaps most important of all is they require some know-how to cultivate/produce which means if anyone wants your production capabilities, there's a good chance that they'll have to keep you alive to keep it going.
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Nigel Bardman - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 17:13:46 EST QiMaW5/L No.14799 Reply
Plus a lot of those are transferable skills for production of food and some basic medical supplies (pure alcohol, edible fungi) which is just gravy. Yes, it's possible to make clothes from hemp or pot plants but I bet you don't know how.
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Graham Cruvinglock - Sun, 07 Apr 2019 12:32:41 EST 0KCrgmWa No.14805 Reply
>>14799
I'd have some poppies and weed growing around my walled-in Tenpenny Tower. NO FUCKING GHOULS ALLOWED
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Clara Cevingwire - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 10:26:35 EST Gt88cdkf No.14808 Reply
>>14805
You should grow the weed inside the walls, and let poppies grow outside. Weed is too tall for you to have good line of sight through the plants, for shooting thieves and ghouls and communists.
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Shitting Chicklegold - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:03:41 EST QiMaW5/L No.14809 Reply
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>>14808
Poppies are also tall enough to sneak up in, they're not really ideal for surrounding your tower with.
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Cyril Nonnerlan - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:26:41 EST Gt88cdkf No.14810 Reply
>>14809
Eh, point made, and a good one, but I did not mean to imply a whole field of them. Just a long strip between the wall and the mote.
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Ian Gummlewill - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 06:48:38 EST QiMaW5/L No.14811 Reply
>>14810
Not a bad idea, but in that case why put them outside at all? Put the wall right up against the moat so there's no horizontal surface for anyone to stand on, bring the poppies inside. A good weed plant likes to have space and will grow taller than the poppies which can grow all around it.
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Fuck Blaggleshaw - Tue, 07 May 2019 03:01:57 EST MEubz8ty No.14826 Reply
>>14805
>light the fields on fire
>put on gas mask
>wait till you're too spun to lift a gun
>your tower is now mine, bitch
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virex - Fri, 17 May 2019 17:37:42 EST PqVADGCu No.14832 Reply
>>12986
You would get spun out fast. As in, too fucked up to function. Picking at your skin, imaginary bugs. Sniping at shadows. Forgetting the last time you ate. Hypersexuality, which NO-one appreciates in the wasteland. Seriously, out in the wastes, we hate you methheads. Sorry to break it to you man.
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Hugh Boblinggold - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:38:05 EST Gt88cdkf No.14836 Reply
>>14826
Try not getting shot while trying to set fire to green vegetation next to a watersource.
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Edward Debblehune - Sun, 26 May 2019 15:33:06 EST mgtH68Mc No.14839 Reply
>>14836
even green and wet areas catch fire during the summer stupid
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Martha Brirrystut - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 07:35:52 EST pI8OXEkc No.14860 Reply
I would personally get a hold of a teensy weensy bit of that weedle-dee-deed.

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