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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated June 12 [TaimaTV Update])
US = Rome 2.0 Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Samuel Clombledale - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:32:47 EST ID:6GEx+/2g No.57289
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If you don't think the US is the cultural and philosophical continuation of Rome get the fuck out of my face.
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Betsy Drinnerville - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 03:43:12 EST ID:B9gH9LZQ No.57652 Ignore Report Reply
>>57289
So are we to expect another fall of rome?
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Charlemagne - Fri, 14 Jun 2019 22:34:01 EST ID:+S5ICo5n No.57665 Ignore Report Reply
Other than the superficial similarities put in place by Age of Reason Romaboo founding fathers, there's little to do between Rome and the US.

Many nations have tried their hands at being Nova Roma, and the only real difference between them and the US is that the US has succeeded in becoming a world hegemon in its time.
However, that only really started following the world wars, when the US was one of the only world powers not seriously maimed by the conflicts, and it hasn't even been a century since we gained that power and it's arguably already waning.

Mike Duncan, acknowledging this very issue, once said in his podcast that the only real thing that made Rome notable wasn't its political system, power or military structure, but the longevity of the empire in itself. A city, founded in the 700s BC, that grew to be a figure on the world stage four centuries later, and by hook or by crook managed to expand and then hold onto that power for the better part of a millennium, and that largely due to luck and the effectiveness of its few good leaders in establishing political structures that could withstand the blows of the many terrible ones until the next good one happened along to fix it.

Now, the US does have some similarities to Rome, but they are largely down to its creators putting a big eagle and fashionable classical column on the forehead of the place. It has existed for not even three centuries, and has been worth mention in a geopolitical sense for exactly seventy four years of that. In that time, we are only now seeing our first Marius, or Caesar if you need an easier figure, and it's still shaking out if the republic will survive that particular shithead. As in Rome, the Senate seems to need violent shaking.

Anyway, don't worry about if the US is the new Rome, because you won't know it in your lifetime and the comparison is largely of little use to anyone anyhow. Just try to keep it a republic for the time being.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 15:20:04 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57667 Ignore Report Reply
>>57665
It hasn't been a republic since the end of the civil war. We're already at the final stages of Rome.... just wish we had Gauls and goths instead of the mess it is now.


If you had a time machine Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Alice Horringstock - Sat, 25 May 2019 17:02:06 EST ID:GJ8VKaxx No.57648
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but could only visit a party in the past, where and when would you go? For me, 1970s Tehran
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Ernest Blipperway - Fri, 14 Jun 2019 07:31:56 EST ID:L+RHghVQ No.57664 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57648
A man of culture i see. But there is nothing better than the Pax Romana.
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Charles Tillingfoot - Sat, 15 Jun 2019 08:03:06 EST ID:I3biHIOC No.57666 Ignore Report Reply
>>57648
probably back to that party where i fucked my life up and decided college wasn't for me


Ancient Aliens Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Hedda Donkintat - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 07:49:50 EST ID:RO9VCtpC No.56723
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Yo, just finished watching all 20 seasons.
What do you think about them building the egyptian things and givings us alien tech?
how the fuck does transistors and magnets work??? That is alien shit right there
Also, how do you feel about Tesla being an outkast alien that lived among us?
The tribe of shabazz is real
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Shit Blythehall - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:34:39 EST ID:PqIVyg6p No.57661 Ignore Report Reply
you should read about faraday's early experiments regarding electromotive force, it may help your void of scientific literacy. also re: pyramids: you live in the ancient world and you want to build something that's fuckhuge. what shape do you choose? (hint: the only option is pyramid)
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 03:01:10 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57662 Ignore Report Reply
>>57654
First off, the foreman of all of those images was white. The natives said as much.
More importantly, leave /tinfoil/ out of this. We have some fucking standards. Not much, but some, damn it.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 03:10:51 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57663 Ignore Report Reply
>>57661
>electromotive force
>pyramids just convenient shape
The fuck, anon? Are you fucking with us?
https://aleximreh.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/the-pyramids-of-egypt-were-giant-electric-power-plants/


Tell me everything about America + (Soviet) Russia + Middle East Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Jack Hillyhall - Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:00:45 EST ID:asXAvW71 No.56601
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I'm trying to discuss ISIS with my friends and family, but eventually we always seem to hit some sort of dark spot of ignorance. Questions like:
  • Why is ISIS about religion, unlike Al-Qaeda?
  • Why did America create Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Why is influence in the ME so important?
  • Why did Iraq invade Kuwait, and why was it important enough to cause the Gulf War?
  • Why was the US buddies with Saddam? Why did the relationship go south?
  • Why does the US fear Iran so much?
  • Why did the USSR invade Afghanistan?
  • What possible gain could there be in turning the ME communist?
  • Why does Israel exist?
  • What's Clinton's role?

This is just a fraction of all the questions I have. Please don't feel limited to just answering these questions. I'm really trying to understand the current situation and how we got here. I'm also looking for a good, mostly OBJECTIVE documentary on the subject (possibly impossible to find?)
Really, I'm just looking for an outline of the past 60 years of history, simple enough for anyone interested enough to ask the question to understand. I realize I could just google it, but most of the times the reasoning they provide is as dry and unhelpful as "it was a in response to this event".

I know this is asking for much, but face it, ya'll fuckers love history enough that you'll enjoy telling me everything you know. you enjoy telling ignoramuses like me what's up.
Tl;DR: read the title and do it.
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Nell Feffingtedging - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:55:57 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57643 Ignore Report Reply
>>56601
The Islamic state was set up by saudis and israel to conduct assymetrical warfare with the primary objective of crippling Syria to allow Israel to steal even more of their land.
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Nicholas Wickledock - Fri, 07 Jun 2019 08:12:11 EST ID:pJUfCjVH No.57655 Ignore Report Reply
>>56686
I'm trying to watch this now but jesus is it fucking slow. It just has tons of random clips with zero relevance to anything. I'm glad I didn't watch this before watching hypernormalization or I probably would have just given up on it by now. How can you make stuff that is so great and also make stuff that is so terrible? I'm sure he has a point that he will get to eventually, but not before making me watch random clips from old tv shows about grooming dogs because that's clearly super important and relevant.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:55:23 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57659 Ignore Report Reply
>>57643
Anon, the Saudis and Israelis are two sides of the same families. The house of Saud are Kohen, descendants of Aaron, are they not?


Which worked Better? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Rebecca Dugglefield - Sat, 07 Nov 2015 14:40:49 EST ID:o6keS00K No.56263
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I was doing some thinking about the current state of the Union, and I found myself ruminating on how if Reconstruction had been followed through on more sincerely, like maybe is Lincoln hadn't gotten assassinated or at least someone more resolved than Johnson had succeeded him, maybe today we'd be closer to a less socially stratified country.
And I got to thinking, we did that after WWII with denazification (we in this case meaning the allies instead of just the US). Reconstruction lasted several years longer, but seems to have had less effective results than the Denazification efforts in post WWII Germany. Besides obvious advanced in technology like with telecommunications and weapons, what are the reasons that Germany has less admiration for it's Nazi period than the southern state have for their "lost cause."? Was is just that Nazism only lasted around a decade whereas slavery had been in the south for centuries?

Or am I wrong? As an American am I romanticizing Denazification? I know there are still neo-nazi in germany but they seem to have less of a presence than the neo-confederates in the U.S.

How about what happened in South Africa? Did Truth and Reconciliation do better or worse than both or either?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_Era
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
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Eugene Wocklebet - Sat, 08 Jun 2019 12:56:54 EST ID:1a4kGkyd No.57657 Ignore Report Reply
>The southern states were different only in that they never voted republican and hated paying money to customs officers

That and you could buy and sell humans as chattel.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:53:24 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57658 Ignore Report Reply
>>56263
>reconstruction
More like exploitation period. Slaves somehow had t worse due to not being paid enough to live on (because a slave you at least have to treat as an investment, unlike a wageslave), the feds worked hard to create racial strife, and of course everything that could be done to slow down the recovery of the cotton industry was done, for the profits of the Roosevelt and Rothschilds families, who got filthy fucking rich off of running cotton from sassoon plantations in india to england's textile factories and then selling it to europe. (note, the sassoons also were the ones growing the opium and demanding it got shipped into china at any cost. I assume as an economic weapon, since slowing industrialization of china was key to them making profit.)
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Shit Blythehall - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:32:23 EST ID:PqIVyg6p No.57660 Ignore Report Reply
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>>56294

>Fuck hitler and his cronies

>For anything they did that I may agree with,

bruh how could you combine those clauses back to back


Communists in Afghanistan Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Shitting Snodstock - Fri, 24 May 2019 09:58:30 EST ID:GJ8VKaxx No.57647
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Can anybody direct me to the nearest information about them? I mean, it's common knowledge that the USA teamed up with the fundies like the Taliban to fight communist expansion by the USSR which was gay in the first place, but were there independent reds in Afghanistan?
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Edwin Trotstock - Thu, 30 May 2019 02:29:50 EST ID:H+LVNZQX No.57650 Ignore Report Reply
You're looking for the PDPA. It started in 1965 and in 1978 they lead a coup and established a Marxist government that was Soviet-aligned but independent. It wasn't a popular revolution, but they were real socialists pursuing real socialist reforms. Things did not go well. After another coup, the Soviets had their own coup and installed a more moderate leader from the PDPA who was widely regarded in the west as a puppet. Once the insurgency got going, I think few people in Kabul were independent of the Soviets whether they liked it or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Democratic_Party_of_Afghanistan
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Ernest Chamblespear - Thu, 30 May 2019 16:25:02 EST ID:GJ8VKaxx No.57651 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57650
Thank you so much


neanderthals Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Jack Wummerman - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:28:21 EST ID:jDhu60RY No.57483
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i have just read the whole wiki page about neanderthals
how the fuck did the meme that they were smarter than homo sapiens come about?
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Angus Fuckinghood - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:09:32 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57612 Ignore Report Reply
>>57611
Don't forget domesticated animals showing smarter behavior than wild animals, yet having smaller brains than wild animals.

(The shrinking is probably in fight-flight-response areas diminishing over the ages of breeding)
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Nell Feffingtedging - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:58:46 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57644 Ignore Report Reply
>>57608
Actually, I'd say that the "Neanderthal dna in europeans" is misleading, as the statements treat everyone in europe as one race and do not account for minority populations in the statistics.
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Edward Bammerhud - Thu, 23 May 2019 16:48:16 EST ID:GJ8VKaxx No.57646 Ignore Report Reply
I always figured Thals weren't smarter or dumber just different
Probably different language, more adapted to cold conditions, hunting larger animals with smaller numbers than them African homo saps


Musketmen Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Graham Mavingridge - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 19:47:46 EST ID:KCDGi4tU No.56914
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So in the 17th and 16th century muskets used a matchlock or wheellock mechanism to fire and therefore took a long time to reload, leaving the musketeers vulnerable, so they needed Pikemen to protect them. My question is- why didn't they just attach the pike underneath the musket and turn them into Piketeers?

I mean if you attached it underneath the musket with hoops, you could move the pike along so the musket was at the centre of gravity when you fired it. And obviously if it got to close quarters you could just us the pike like a pike.
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Henry Pungerdock - Tue, 08 May 2018 06:07:29 EST ID:vk3jeQdF No.57452 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57450
I've been trained in fighting with bayonets in the military. It's not the alignment so much as the balance. Everything at the bottom near your hand is heavy and your weapon tip is extremely light. The complete opposite of any specialised melee weapon. It's also why sweeping from the back with the butt is a lot more satisfying.
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Angus Clenningwill - Wed, 09 May 2018 13:06:30 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57453 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57452
>It's not the alignment so much as the balance.

I love you bro, no homo.
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Nell Feffingtedging - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:21:36 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57645 Ignore Report Reply
>>56914
Dude, the firing mechanism wasn't the only issue. They were muzzle loaders. That means they have to stand up and pour the powder down the barrel, smush in a bit of wadding to make a good seal and help pack the powder properly, and then toss in the ball! This is also why they couldn't have anything impeding access to the barrel.


US exceptionalism myth Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Graham Hillypack - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 07:55:03 EST ID:4ndgi8mn No.57528
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Why do US retards think that the US won WWII single handedly? I drive uber and had some army guys in my car the other day and they were SHOCKED, MORTIFIED that I suggested that the USSR was both the superior fighting force and were the ones who defeated Nazi Germany (if any one force can be thanked it is indeed the Red Army).

I think its really important that Americans be told that their military is actually shit and they havent contributed a single fucking significant thing to the good of humanity in military terms besides an ASSIST in WWII. The rest of the entire military history of the US is predatory imperialist meandering around the globe and has been a net loss for humanity.

ITT we discuss good ways to teach americans that their military is evil and they are stupid to support it
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Hannah Brivingway - Sat, 11 May 2019 21:34:31 EST ID:jqpDx4yB No.57638 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57528because the ussr wasnt the superior fighting force, they lost far more troops, and stupidly at that. the only reason they held the line is because of winter. youre actually the retarded one. Who won ww2? USA won the war in the pacific, USSR pushed into germany after a failed attack by germany who had a non aggression pact with them. IF hitler never attacked the USSR, they wouldnt have been involved, and the allies still would have won the war. why did the usa win ww2? Fatboy and littleman
who made the first nukes and used them again?
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Nell Feffingtedging - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:52:03 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57641 Ignore Report Reply
>>57528
The USA didn't rape and murder millions of civilians, like the soviets did.
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Nell Feffingtedging - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:53:54 EST ID:XsO0o/wD No.57642 Ignore Report Reply
>>57638
>muh russia never woulda been involved
You're absolutely retarded. They were moving troops to take oil fields in southeastern europe. Hitler was secretly recorded talking about this.


Inca Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Henry Blathershit - Thu, 03 Sep 2015 06:48:43 EST ID:kMDrf7PF No.56073
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What's worst? Living in pre-colonist Inca as a commoner, living in Czarist Russia, or living in modern day DPRK? Inca seems really fucked up now that I look into it.
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Cornelius Deshwirk - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:08:48 EST ID:GQJa2KV8 No.57637 Ignore Report Reply
>>56073
All three don’t seem bad so long as you weren’t alive toward the end of their civilizations
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Hannah Tootspear - Tue, 14 May 2019 00:56:33 EST ID:D7DAFN4O No.57639 Ignore Report Reply
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>>56075
I'm lazy, hung, AND stoned already what more do they want?

Not sure what my big cock has to do with my laziness but I see the correlation between being stoned and lazy at least.
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Reuben Smallway - Tue, 14 May 2019 14:30:43 EST ID:IRAocwBT No.57640 Ignore Report Reply
>>56073
Probably DPRK today


Tutsi genocide Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Phoebe Dimbleshit - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 06:02:48 EST ID:+bh4WZ06 No.57609
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It's been 25 years since the Tutsi genocide in Rwanda. A butchery that lasted for over a 100 days, it was fucked up beyond belief and no one really gets hold responsible.

What do you think about it? Were did it start? Who is at fault?
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Angus Nickleville - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:58:43 EST ID:O/7xpWS4 No.57618 Ignore Report Reply
>>57609
Adam Curtis got you covered fam
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x60y8sn

It was the Belgians
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Molly Docklepod - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:45:01 EST ID:ZycbzZUq No.57631 Ignore Report Reply
>>57618
Fucking putting mayo on fries cuz the last day without beer is non-existant
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Jarvis Goodhood - Thu, 09 May 2019 03:25:02 EST ID:OhI96dHn No.57636 Ignore Report Reply
>it was fucked up beyond belief and no one really gets hold responsible.
first reply
>>57610
>vaguely blames the UN
thats how it came to be that no individuals are held responsible and thats why genocides will keep on happening even though the UN was supposedly set up to prevent this kind of thing. Boutros Ghali sat on his hands and did nothing purposefully, the Clinton white house was too incompetent and was so far up their own asses enjoying the delicious odor of their own flatulence that they didn't even notice until afterwards. same group of geniuses were so amateurish that even over two decades later they lost to the weakest republican presidential candidate since ford in '76. shortly before the rawandan tragedy the Clinton white house was responding in earnest to reporter's questions about ethnic cleansing in Freedonia. They really were that dumb and incompetent.


Mongol Thread Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Samuel Lightwill - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 20:03:21 EST ID:GJ8VKaxx No.57619
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Anything, doesnt matter to me but I have a dream of winning the mongolian derby as something to do when I am done being a bitch ass punk so mongolian horseriding is a plus
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Samuel Lightwill - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:20:21 EST ID:GJ8VKaxx No.57630 Ignore Report Reply
Мaлын хулгaй FTW
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Edward Chovingkadging - Sun, 05 May 2019 09:56:08 EST ID:PqIVyg6p No.57632 Ignore Report Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Cedric Billingshit - Mon, 27 May 2019 05:43:49 EST ID:K2phYXev No.57649 Ignore Report Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE


WHO Ignore Report View Thread Reply
George Fanhood - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 07:22:34 EST ID:IRAocwBT No.57613
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If you could live the life of one historic person, who would you choose?
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Cornelius Dussledine - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 07:32:03 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57614 Ignore Report Reply
I'm part of modern history right? So I chose myself. Do better in school and shit so my life now would be easier.
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Thomas Brookstone - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:44:36 EST ID:9WJH4thv No.57615 Ignore Report Reply
>>57614
boring.
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Will Howl - Mon, 06 May 2019 01:25:30 EST ID:1oNFPI90 No.57633 Ignore Report Reply
Brad Pitt whenever he was hooking up with Angelina Jolie


oliver stones shit Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Charles Nabbersidging - Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:46:08 EST ID:AYHqmngl No.57592
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Has anyone watched Oliver Stones "untold history of the united states"? I really enjoyed watching it. It's pretty dry history series but I think a lot of the /pol/tards on the internet should watch it as it really breaks down the whole illusion of right and left and shows how the USA is not at all what they've been told.
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Hedda Pivingville - Wed, 20 Mar 2019 19:27:13 EST ID:PqIVyg6p No.57601 Ignore Report Reply
yeah i saw it and enjoyed it a lot.

WE WANT WALLACE


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