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US = Rome 2.0

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- Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:32:47 EST 6GEx+/2g No.57289
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If you don't think the US is the cultural and philosophical continuation of Rome get the fuck out of my face.
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Edwin Hondlewill - Sun, 15 May 2022 14:30:50 EST PW+avt/p No.58291 Reply
>>57432
>latin alphabet
But we use arabic numerals, does that also make us arabic?
>roman calendar
We use the Gregorian calendar, named after pope Gregory XIII, proposed in 1582 and not mandated until the 18th century in britain. It speaks more to the immense power of the roman catholic church than rome proper.
>western languages include latin structure
Among arabic, gaelic, germanic and various other structures, especially english. Why not go back further and say all western languages include indo-european structure, that would be more correct.
>Roman law has influenced western law
Sure, but that was our choice, it doesn't imply direct descendance
>christianity was propelled globally thanks to rome
Not really, christianity had to subsume rome first before it could become as popular as it was. There was a 600 year gap between jesus' existence and any real galvanization of christians in rome thanks to pope gregory I. Pagan romans thought christians were weirdos. Real celcus' accounts
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Rebecca Bronkinpare - Tue, 17 May 2022 02:13:32 EST wI2Kwzdo No.58292 Reply
>>58291
Alot of law comes out of Rome. Pretty messed up stuff if you ask me. Such as concepts of property and how they could do anything to their property, be they slave or object.

Still, I think alot of nation-states try to lay claim to past empires as heirs to lionize the government and by extension the ruling class posterity. Like claiming the empire will last centuries when its actually near collapse.

List of important historical events

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- Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:20:43 EST p5WQwFa3 No.55764
File: 1434583243641.jpg -(963978B / 941.38KB, 1220x782) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. List of important historical events
So /his/tory I'm in a bit of a bad position here.

I love history and I always was among the top of my classes, however I do not know historical dates at all.

I can tell you about the cold war but can't say the year vietnam started and ended - same with Korea.
I can tell you that WW2 ended in May of 1945 but only because I can "reconstruct" the date based on my knowledge like:
> WW2 ended in 1945 > WW2 ended with the Soviets taking Berlin > the Soviets took Berlin in May because they wanted it in time for May-Day

So how do I tackle that issue? Is there a list of dates worth learning raging from Ancient to modern times (can be Euro-centric af I don't mind)?
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Cratira - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 01:07:06 EST wHI9PkXi No.57875 Reply
From my experience Vietnam was a flook that fell with resources. I met a man that was part of a secret war dealing in another region. He lives in a church when I was around, I hope he still does.
Took me 13 years to put all the information together. My fool and I we're fighting about ohh Vietnam was a senseless war. But really what's the worth of fighting.
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Oliver Smallfield - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 11:37:12 EST 0n7WzI3X No.57880 Reply
this thread is circa 2015, which for historical reference was the same year the Saudi's launched their invasion of Yemen, Ireland legalized same sex marriage by popular vote, and Cuba successfully eradicated mother to child transmission of HIV
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Jarvis Summlefuck - Fri, 06 May 2022 12:19:32 EST 6sJ1bLgJ No.58287 Reply
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Battle of Milvian Bridge on October 28, 312 AD

KGB

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- Mon, 09 Sep 2019 17:44:46 EST 8meLll/O No.57794
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What do you know about the KGB? We all know about CIA and their horrid, shady shit. But what about the kgb? The only thing I know about them is that Putin was a KGB agent, I pressume thats bad but why? What's the history of KGB?
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Cedric Honeyworth - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 11:54:46 EST uunEfd9A No.58230 Reply
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>>58223
Looks like we're losing california to the canadians...
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Jenny Fivingput - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 18:11:14 EST uunEfd9A No.58275 Reply
>>58230
9/11

Qe II
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Polly Blillerwodging - Mon, 02 May 2022 11:08:10 EST aNbZeQAL No.58279 Reply
>>57794
ye well Americans deal with subjects by some mind control MKultra shit or if they want to sack someone they send some choppers over put a crate over the persons head and ship them of to some hidden secret prison. Or if they want the world to know they gironimo with seal team 6 and give out some headshots.

KGB deals with their buisness with a suppresser on a 9mm in an alleyway or an umbrella that shoots radioactive or piousness pinpoints into someone's leg.

1970's

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- Sat, 16 Nov 2019 20:00:52 EST 0RHHXdSE No.57885
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lets talk about the 1970's, the decline since of technological progress outside of the semiconductor industry, and how and why everything after the 1970's is not as good as people were expecting it to be. what do you think happened?
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Cornelius Nicklestock - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:15:35 EST sK2zALtF No.58011 Reply
The 70s has so much inovation i music it is staggering.
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Walter Semmleshaw - Tue, 14 Jul 2020 05:04:07 EST EDZZZ3IE No.58018 Reply
Wasn't there a huge gas crisis and recession in the 70's? Didn't serial killers spike in that era as well? Really doesn't seem that fantastic, and I think some people of that time were pleased with the 80's
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Nathaniel Muttinggold - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:34:36 EST T7GkyuND No.58278 Reply
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i think color TV and literally going to the fucking MOON 1969 just made everyone think OK, MICROWAVES, TV, SPACE, ICECREAM

and from there you begin to see both a great transformative decline and improvement with technology and humanity clashing from the next decades onward. At least where things kept developing in that rate of growth.

History of Espionage.

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- Sat, 03 Aug 2019 12:37:43 EST l9faZouv No.57737
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For this, I'm lumping together all covert operations. Assassinations, spying, misinformation, sabotage etc.

Spying and misinformation goes back farther than written history, so the first historical account goes back to 1274 BC.

The "Battle of Kadesh" between the Egyptian Empire and the Hittite Empire.

Muwatalli, leader of the Hittites sent a bunch of spies to the Egyptian camp posing as deserters. Two of them were able to get an audience with the Pharaoh and convince him that the HIttites were far away and they could make significant gains in territory, Of course this was a trap as they were waiting to ambush them.

Fortunately for Ramses, his forces captured two more spies and interrogated them until they revealed the ambush and Ramses was able to save most of his forces.

The Ra division got fucking hammered, but the rest of his army prepared for the fight to come and the Egyptians technically won, although it was strategically indecisive.

It ended with a peace treaty, but had it not been for the spys there could have been some very different outcomes.

Pic is of a common tactic used, a woman assassin. Because who would suspect her and she can hide some pretty decent weapons in that dress.
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Charlotte Billingdale - Mon, 07 Mar 2022 16:34:05 EST uunEfd9A No.58266 Reply
>>58265
Guess why they never do aan episode on the more murder's
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Jenny Fivingput - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 18:35:31 EST uunEfd9A No.58276 Reply
>>57737
Hitler was going to reveal himself as Jesus Christ...

And the Prophet Mohammed

And the Bhudda

The Boss of all Bosses

So many people wanted to see that....
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Jenny Fivingput - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 18:36:38 EST uunEfd9A No.58277 Reply
>>58276
Cyanide capsules...
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How do we save the civilians in Mexico?

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- Tue, 10 Mar 2020 03:44:26 EST 6b8YaE/p No.57948
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How do we end the cartel-violence and corruption in Mexico?
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Martin Nackleworth - Fri, 05 Nov 2021 04:56:31 EST 3xYnMTHY No.58186 Reply
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Mexican Cuisine will save the day
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Jenny Fivingput - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 16:38:16 EST uunEfd9A No.58274 Reply
>>57948
WaTch Apocalypto...
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Taking orphans and training them as secret agents?

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- Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:53:49 EST /Y+nb6PW No.58227
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Is there any material that anyone can cite that is real. No matter how related because I'd like to read up on this. I'm sure there have been countries that have taken orphans and trained them to subvert countries they dislike. Seems like common sense. This seems like a history thing and not a political thing. I come from a different land where there isn't a history board and if there is I'm not aware of its existence.
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Hugh Blythefoot - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 04:03:51 EST uunEfd9A No.58228 Reply
>>58227
Personal motivation is a pretty important consideration for that sort of thing.
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Jenny Fivingput - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 16:37:01 EST uunEfd9A No.58273 Reply
>>58227
Child snatcher!
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One-of-a-Kind Historical Artifacts

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- Thu, 02 Jan 2020 21:15:10 EST q2KfTnNz No.57927
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Hey, I'm looking for unique one-of-a-kind historical artifacts, and I was wondering if you knew of any? These are the sorts of things that are described as being "the only surviving example of..." so and so. For example:

This is a picture of the Leiden Papyrus Z, which contains the only known example of handwriting by a roman emperor (Theodosius II).
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Angus Chavingdale - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 14:33:29 EST uunEfd9A No.58268 Reply
>>58208
>>58226

Your god is a fossil,
Abandoned apostles,
Stand and join hands to behold

-Otep Shamaya - noose 'n nail
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Angus Chavingdale - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 14:41:36 EST uunEfd9A No.58269 Reply
>>58268
>>58268
Vegetarianism is a global conspiracy to prevent wwiii. Theres always a vegetarian in a jurassic park film.
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Angus Chavingdale - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 15:04:31 EST uunEfd9A No.58272 Reply
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>>58269
This is a biface. An object with two surfaces.

It's what they had before knives.
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The Point and Purpose of War (Greater or Otherwise)

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- Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:23:38 EST F26porE8 No.58086
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What is the point and purpose of war? Approaching the issue of conflict with a cool head, is it an art form? A sport? A science? A pissing contest? A part of the Archetypal Hero's Journey? All of the above? Is it a symptom of a sick or even early society, something we will be rid of after a point? What are your thoughts?
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Charlotte Billingdale - Mon, 07 Mar 2022 05:45:10 EST uunEfd9A No.58259 Reply
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>>58258
Volcano + the Sea

Noone can hear you scream
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Angus Chavingdale - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 14:45:24 EST uunEfd9A No.58270 Reply
>>58086
Elephants and mammoths were baby eaters. We had a species war in the stone age.

Steppe horses pushed boulders. They made an imitation of the great wall of china.

Quasi-psychedealic

Pseudo - sort of

Quasi - sort of but not really

Stone Age Rock
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Angus Chavingdale - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 14:51:33 EST uunEfd9A No.58271 Reply
>>58270

Water horses. Troglodytic vermin that survived the ice ages.

They have transitional flippers like lugia (yes the pokemon).

That's what the horse meat scandal in france was about a few years back.
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The end of the mongol empire.

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- Mon, 07 Mar 2022 17:19:34 EST c8YO+wyu No.58267
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Croats vs Mongols:
The first time euros used guns and crossbows. The Croatians fill the water supply with extreme psychedelic mushrooms. And fill the land with extra thorny thorn bushes/black berry bushes that act like razor-wire along with a deadly version of poison ivy that was selective bred. Croatians burn giant bonfires of marijuana constantly to get the mongols too high to fight. Croatians use scorched earth tactics, abandoning all towns and create underground cities that are mazes and death traps for the mongols. Croatians wear terrifying folk costumes 24/7 that are “mind boggling” to the mongols. Croatians inbreed and keep only people with positive mutations. As a result Croatians were extremely diverse and strange. Like elves, beast-men, dryads, spirits, angels, and demons.
First hand mongol sources speak of domestic selectively bred giant wolf and bear cavalry too. Croatians are all on their own kind of shrooms themselves for creativity and engage in extreme ambush tactics and nightmarish “outer-worldly” psychological warfare. The Croatians never engage the mongols in direct battle. Horses are useless in the mountain terrain and “terrifying and complex” traps are everywhere including an early version of landmines. The traps are often horrifying Rube Goldberg machines. Croatians shot mongols with strange non-fatal poison darts (such an extreme castor oil that makes them shit constantly) and left them alive to create disorientation among the mongols ranks that then got dragged down by an increasingly disoriented, terrified, and wounded force. The mongols fail to take any of the underground giant endless “maze like” death trap cities and the Croatians eat the mongols. Mongol corpses were stored in deep underground frozen cellars so the Croatians had an abundance of food always. Croatians would pop out of their endless secret holes from their tunnels, shoot a mongol, and drag their corpse underground. “The Croatians could appear from anywhere. No one that went after them into a hole returned”. Many Mongolian warrior women were taken captive and drugged on shrooms to the extreme and then turned into cattle and fattened to the extreme on the flesh of other mongols for them to be eaten themselves or milked and used as breeding cows and manure factories for underground farms. Mongol warrior women only breed with the biggest and strongest mongols so the Croatians have the mongol women often bred by their youngest and most feminine boys as psychological warfare as they would then show the pregnant women often to entice the mongols into traps and make the mongols go mad. They also use selectively bred bees to attack people and release swarms of fireflies to light endless nighttime surprise attacks. The mongols couldn’t rest a moment. The Croatians seek to trap the mongols in Croatia and have none escape. The mongols fall into a terrified full scale route and fight amongst each other in the effort to escape. Very few escaped. The khan is said to of died of “existential dread and terror”. The pillaging ends and the mongol empire dies.

preamerica

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- Fri, 04 Oct 2019 23:30:05 EST GZ9huB26 No.57843
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Hello, i am a latin american, eager to about about his roots.

I came here to ask your for help, /his/ please, i need to find this book. (pic very related). I don`t know the name :(
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Nathaniel Bimmlehidge - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 18:07:31 EST uunEfd9A No.58209 Reply
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>>57843
Squaw
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Hugh Blythefoot - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 04:06:53 EST uunEfd9A No.58229 Reply
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Watching Apocalypto

Chinese restaurant Red Dragon

Special Fried Rice
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Cedric Honeyworth - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:03:53 EST uunEfd9A No.58232 Reply
>>57843
pls rspond
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Civilization of the Month

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!PXhMv3keyc - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 16:21:24 EST 7moSACzs No.57339
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In preparation for going back to school (and to hopefully bolster some discussion on this nice but very slow board) I'm gonna try this thread format. Each month, assuming I don't get lazy and drop this, I'm gonna post a big thing about a civilization, culture, or political entity. I'm gonna try to avoid obvious topics like Egypt or Rome, and focus on stuff people may not have heard of as much. In an ideal world you guys will join in and discuss the peoples and cultures herein, suggest new topics, or correct me if and when I mess up.

That said, it seems fair to me to start with the beginning. This month's Civilization of the Month is Sumer.

"Sumer" as a name comes to us from their Akkadian neighbors/occasional rulers, who called them Shumer. The Sumerians called themselves "ùĝ saĝ gíg ga", meaning "The black-headed people", a name we learned from the cuneiform tablets they wrote on. Unfortunately, we do not actually know what "Shumer" means; when looking (or, more appropriately, glancing) into it, I pretty much just found academic flamewars.

The Sumerian people seem to have been in the area of modern day Iraq since at least 6500 BC, and continued to do their thing until the second millennium BC. Then they were conquered by the Amorites, who in turn were conquered by the Assyrians. However, their cultural impression was lasting, and Assyrian kings would continue to refer to themselves as "King of Sumer and Akkad" for centuries.

The earliest archaeological site we have for the area is called Tell el-'Oueli. A tell, from Arabic tal, meaning hill or mound, is a giant pile of trash from generations of people living on the same spot. This site consists of two thousand years of the Ubaid period (6500-4000 BC), and is characterized by the style of clay painted pottery, unwalled villages of mud brick houses, and tools (mainly sickles) made of clay usually, though occasionally stone or metal. During this time irrigated agriculture, use of the plow, and sailing were developed, and an egalitarian society became more stratified as a noble chieftain class developed as communities became much bigger than your standard village.

Eventually, pottery became produced more efficiently and trade flourished along the rivers of the Fertile Crescent, which led to the rise of the first cities. This period, named Uruk for the biggest one of the time, lasted from 4100 BC to 2900 BC. Uruk was created when two Ubaid villages grew into each other, and during this period became the most populated city in the world, surpassing 50k inhabitants. Cities during this period were centered around a large temple (two in Uruk's case, at the centers of the towns it grew from) and were ruled theocratically by priest-kings (called ensi). Slavery begins to see heavy use.

In 2900 BC we enter the early dynastic period (2900-2270 BC). Around the beginning of this time the wall around Uruk was built, spanning 9km. We see a split from the priest-king system to a relatively secular ruler (still claiming divine right to rule, as kings will), and a council of elder priests. In 2700 writing began to form out of pictographs, and things like clay tokens were used in accounting. At first, cities were separate entities that can't really project force terribly far. However, any towns around a big city were obviously going to have a hard time, and we actually see towns outright disappear as the cities absorb their populations. Around 2500 BC a king from the city of Lagash named Eannatum conquered the area we now think of as Sumer, creating one of the first empires. However, it fell apart after his death. Two centuries later a king named Lugal-zage-si did something similar, and reigned for fifteen years or so until the Akkadians conquered Sumer.

In 2270, the son of a cup-bearer for a Sumerian king (a social position of high standing and trust, I'll note) named Sargon rose to power, conquered Lugal-zage-di's realm, and led him to his hometown of Akkad in stocks. He went on to carve out an empire stretching nearly from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean. His empire would last until 2147, when a nomadic tribe called the Guti overran the place to a degree that the infrastructure couldn't handle. The empire collapsed, and minor city-states made their return.

From Lagash again rose a Sumerian king, Gudea, who enjoyed a small renaissance of sorts after he reconquered Sumer in his sixth year and established healthy trade routes throughout Mesopotamia. Statues of Gudea abound, and we can note a change over the course of his reign from cheap limestone to expensive and foreign diorite, featuring inscriptions about trade, rule and religion. The arts flourished (sculptures of Gudea are numerous, and those are just the ones that survived), and contact with ancient India for trade and minor colonization is mentioned. The site of Goa followed field measurements of the Sumerian culture rather than those of the native Indian cultures surrounding them. He ruled for twenty years (2144-2124 BC).

Following this, the third dynasty of Ur rose to regional power and lasted about a century. The six kings in this time extended influence (not outright power, mind you) all the way to the Mediterranean, centralized agriculture and the textile industry, and produced the oldest known code of law: the Code of Ur-Nammu. Around the turn of the second millennium BC an invasion from neighboring Elam cast down the dynasty, paving the way for the rise of the Assyrian Empire.

It's worth noting that in the final era of Sumer's history, the salinity of the soil was affecting the region's economic capacity. In the time surrounding the Ur III dynasty, the population was estimated to have more than halved itself, despite a switch from wheat to barley, a more salt-resistant grain. I suspect this may also be what caused or allowed the Ur III dynasty to …
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Hedda Worthingbury - Sat, 01 Jan 2022 12:28:54 EST 2n2vRbCp No.58202 Reply
>>58115
You know the black sun also has ties to egyptian civilization right?

The "Confederacy"

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- Mon, 13 Jul 2020 22:55:56 EST HjtA+9g+ No.58015
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>Calls itself the "Confederacy"
>Was not in fact a Confederacy, just a bog plain republic
Seriously, what exactly were they going for here?
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Hedda Worthingbury - Sat, 01 Jan 2022 12:18:24 EST 2n2vRbCp No.58200 Reply
>>58199
We cannot determine our nature anon. We feel hunger, we feel lust, we feel anger, we feel power. All parts of our social structures were just attempts of using tribalism to fulfill those needs, some forms of tribalism like the peaceful one you provided work in very static conditions. But we don't live in a static world. We live in a dybamic world of changing situations. I implore you to analyze why you're appeal to systems being improved can change human nature. Whether we live in a peaceful hunter gatherer social model or a war filled expansionist system; certain types people will rise no matter what you do to curtail their power. At the bottom of the Wealth and power curve, Men and Women starve and children die young. In the broad middle of the curve all is turmoil and motion: people rising and falling, climbing by talent or luck and falling by alcoholism, tuberculosis and other kinds of unfitness. At the very top sit the elite of the elite, who control wealth and power for a time – until they are unseated through revolution or upheaval by a new aristocratic class. There is no progress in human history. Democracy is a fraud. Human nature is primitive, emotional, unyielding. The smarter, abler, stronger, and shrewder take the lion's share. The weak starve, lest society fail: One can compare the social body to the human body, which will promptly perish if prevented from eliminating toxins and inflammatory stuff. Just by competing for resources this was almost preordained to happen. Just by born different organisms we were always meant to struggle against eachother in tribal manner. Even in this debate one of us will eventually through rhetoric, reasoning or consensus building gain victory. So by all means give it your best shot anon, one must faill one must rise. Entropy the second law of thermodynamics demands it, not our logic or interpretation of events. If a system succeeds its more orderly, if it fails chaos ensues. The carnot engine law of thermodynamics states not all energy can be converted and some will be lost in reactions to the environment. We're doomed to fail as a society no matter how much we rise. What matters is if we live well honestly
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Hedda Worthingbury - Sat, 01 Jan 2022 12:21:00 EST 2n2vRbCp No.58201 Reply
>>58198
Not just will, also back room bargains, subversion, menticide, propaganda, just about any kind of extra preparation needed to rule a population including disciplined well trained troops to force order.
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Clara Faddlestock - Tue, 04 Jan 2022 20:50:05 EST gqtTg54P No.58203 Reply
cuz they retards
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Imperialism general

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- Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:15:51 EST 5jBNoNKF No.58033
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Why do humans want to colonize and dominate other peoples? Why did the British occupy and terrorize India, why didn't the US colonies descend on the Americas peacefully? Why did the Spaniards and Portuguese find america and mexico and want to take them over? yall ever wonder bout the motives of imperialism?
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Henry Pettingbadge - Mon, 01 Nov 2021 06:36:15 EST zXumkxX7 No.58180 Reply
>>58113
This is true for old imperialism of the 15th-16th centuries, but the new imperialism of the Scramble for Africa, the Chinese concessions etc. were purely capitalistic in origin and goals. Leopold III even owned the Congo as his own private corporate body, unconnected to the state ffs.
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Jeff Jones - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 04:33:32 EST mBM6rNdv No.58195 Reply
>>58082

Mayan is still spoken though and became more literate during after Hispanic arrival than before. The book burnings only happened because of pagan rituals induced within the paper so the bishop had them burned but only after their contents were written down. Though it wasn’t thorough and there’s more than three still in existence. And Indians were considered perpetual neophytes so they were protected from Inquistitory executions and burnings. The burnings in Spain only affected Christians, Jews and Muslims were not their jurisdiction.

The cultures are destroyed, they just change, mostly because of migrations from the conquerors homeland. And many allies joined with the imperialists with complete notion of their subservience.
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Ernest Fesslehot - Mon, 13 Dec 2021 17:30:12 EST 2n2vRbCp No.58196 Reply
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Of course capitalism was used for human conquest anon. It isn't the system thats the problem its the people on top. Capitalism, monarchy, democracy, republics and communism all have conquered lesser nations due to these forms of of governance being imposed by a more powerful country. The problem is the people in leadership, as in the bureaucrats, CEOs, kings, queens, Presidents, Supreme Leaders, Cominterns, Party secrataries, Head revolutionaries etc...
Anytime you beat your enemy you want revenge. Anytime one person is the head of any movement they take the lion's share of power. Look at stalin, pol pot and mao and compare that to hitler, franco and Mussolini. Same poverty and oppression of masses different excuse. There is very little difference in the elites across all time. Vilfredo Pareto's equations achieved special prominence, and controversy. He was fascinated by problems of power and wealth. How do people get it? How is it distributed around society? How do those who have it use it? The gulf between rich and poor has always been part of the human condition, but Pareto resolved to measure it. He gathered reams of data on wealth and income through different centuries, through different countries in two different continents: the tax records of Basel, Switzerland, from 1454 and from Augsburg, Germany, in 1471, 1498 and 1512; contemporary rental income from Paris; personal income from Britain, Prussia, Saxony, Ireland, Italy, Peru, ottman empire, the adab caliphates,Tang china, tibet under the buddhist monk rule over 9 centuries ago, the Mamluks of Egypt. What he found – or recorded – was striking. When he plotted the data on graph paper, with income on one axis, and number of people with that income on the other, he saw the same picture nearly everywhere in every era. Society was not a "social pyramid" with the proportion of rich to poor sloping gently from one class to the next. Instead it was more of a "social arrow" – very fat on the bottom where the mass of men live, and very thin at the top where sit the wealthy elite. Nor was this effect by chance; the data did not remotely fit a bell curve, as one would expect if wealth were distributed randomly. "It is a social law", he wrote: something "in the nature of humanity
Human beings are tribistic and prone to back stabbing, scheming and conflict anon. We can't help ourselves its in our instincts. Logic cannot stop the gaping maw of human emotion

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