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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

answer is Catal Höyük

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- Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:25:30 EST C/SaHHe7 No.57767
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>discuss history with an American
What fuels this childish obsession with the last 800 years before the birth of Christ?
My guess is that this happens because Greece and Rome were the first civilizations that produced a large corpus of texts that can be easily accessed and read by anyone (i.e. you can read all the texts that Plato wrote, but the same is not true for some random asshole that wrote on clay tables in Ur) basically meaning that you can consume a lot of "history" without having to put any effort into it and never having to visit academia.

How do we put an end to the eternal American man child?
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Charles Fuckingfield - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 14:40:04 EST C/SaHHe7 No.57786 Reply
Not much. He wasn't that much different from every other idiotic 19th century philosopher. My point was that he thought that Greece was the cradle of civilization, and based a lot of his writings around that idea. Now when we know that isn't true at all the baseline idea of many of his texts have been proven wrong making them objectively wrong.

Classical Greece wasn't the first civilization in Greece.
Hell, Classical Greece wasn't even the first GREEK civilization in Greece (lmao).

It's just seems kinda childish to anyone who actually knows their history when american men engage in hour long discussions about something based on historical ideas we know have been wrong for more than a century.
Clara Conderkidge - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 22:50:37 EST rbK+gS1r No.57787 Reply
To be fair, the main focus on Schopenhauer's work in contemporary discourse is all about his existential pessimism, and how existence at its core is just suffering.

History of Espionage.

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- Sat, 03 Aug 2019 12:37:43 EST l9faZouv No.57737
File: 1564850263967.jpg -(49029B / 47.88KB, 610x407) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. History of Espionage.
For this, I'm lumping together all covert operations. Assassinations, spying, misinformation, sabotage etc.

Spying and misinformation goes back farther than written history, so the first historical account goes back to 1274 BC.

The "Battle of Kadesh" between the Egyptian Empire and the Hittite Empire.

Muwatalli, leader of the Hittites sent a bunch of spies to the Egyptian camp posing as deserters. Two of them were able to get an audience with the Pharaoh and convince him that the HIttites were far away and they could make significant gains in territory, Of course this was a trap as they were waiting to ambush them.

Fortunately for Ramses, his forces captured two more spies and interrogated them until they revealed the ambush and Ramses was able to save most of his forces.

The Ra division got fucking hammered, but the rest of his army prepared for the fight to come and the Egyptians technically won, although it was strategically indecisive.

It ended with a peace treaty, but had it not been for the spys there could have been some very different outcomes.

Pic is of a common tactic used, a woman assassin. Because who would suspect her and she can hide some pretty decent weapons in that dress.
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Walter Winningdock - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 09:48:46 EST rbK+gS1r No.57779 Reply
I assume assassins existed before The Assassins, but The Assassins were specifically trained for their job.

Before that, important people would just give some shitfarmer with debts a knive, "Go kill that guy", and be done with it.

IIRC there was a moment in medieval Italy when it was really popular for the nobility to just hire entire gangs of hoodlums to commit murders. People would be walking down the street and they'd get ganked by 10 murderhobos with clubs and knives.
Ian Givingdutch - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 16:26:45 EST xQM2OQp2 No.57780 Reply
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I know the Byzantines had a bureaucratic department devoted to intelligence-gathering on matters relating to foreign powers, the Bureau of Barbarians. Mind you, this was at a time when Western Europe had devolved into feudalism, and any complex administrative apparatus had long since vanished there.

There's a matter of semantics as to whether they were an intelligence department or an espionage one, but I think for OP's puposes, this fits.
Hugh Hoshridge - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 12:00:36 EST PksC5wlG No.57783 Reply
I've read some story about a Roman spy who infiltrated a celtic tribe in Northern Italy or Switzerland. He learned their language, got accepted by them and lived among them for ages until the Romans showed up and he totally ratted out everybody and probably laughed his ass off while everybody was getting killed or enslaved.

Why is the Judge Rotenberg Center still open?

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 05:22:22 EST BxA+b6t5 No.57778
File: 1566033742442.jpg -(50469B / 49.29KB, 1200x630) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why is the Judge Rotenberg Center still open?
Why on earth this is place still open? At what point does it get shut down?!


The "treatments" provided in that hellhole are illegal in every country on earth BUT the USA. The use electric shocks, but not in the way common therapy for such is applied, but as 'aversion therapy'...by strapping kids to tables and running electricity through them as a punishment. This 'aversion therapy' has left second and third degree burns on some of these kids, and not only is it legal in this country, it is court ordered.

It's illegal to do this to murderers*, but who gives a shit if it's some enthusiastic kid, right?

*And well it should be!

"white people" aren't that great

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- Wed, 03 Jul 2019 18:25:55 EST 6/vQOKxR No.57673
File: 1562192755093.jpg -(95480B / 93.24KB, 375x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. "white people" aren't that great
When compared to non-white cultures, whites were really slow. Mesopotamians already had massive states with well organised administrations while Celts and ancient Germans were pretty much stuck in the stone age with a tribal society and bonus metalurgy. Greece wasn't important in 3.000 BC and they got heavily influenced by Egypt and Babylon (= non-white cultures). Even Rome only made it big around 200 BC when it became a super power after defeating Carthage. The greatest example of western (="white") culture was a fucking late bloomer. Look at freaking India, they also had enormous agriculture and giant cities 5 millenia ago while everybody in Europe lived in mud or log huts and there were no big cities at all. I don't think I have to elaborate a lot about Asia where major independent cultures popped up right next to each other long before the Mycenean culture died off, same with the Americas. Also the Latin alphabet was just a modification of the Greek one which was a modification of Phoenician (non-white) letters. Germanic runes can also be traced back to Latin scipt so "white people" couldn't even come up with their own writing system! "White people" had a good run for the last 300 years with colonialism, finally starting to clean up their shit instead of letting it in the streets to rot and several world wars but it's already clear that India and China will take over eventually while "white" countries will fall back into times like the 1600s with constant poverty and hunger everywhere.
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Basil Pingerlock - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 02:21:47 EST OyVyeVjx No.57763 Reply
I said "white people and Chinese people" but really everyone is doing it regardless of race.
Fucking Cedgeham - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 07:41:06 EST rbK+gS1r No.57775 Reply
Yeah, hell yeah Europe possessed an innate quality that made its people suited for conquest.


The only reason why Africa didn't have any continent spanning empires is because Africa is stratified in various climate layers. Without industrial technology, you cannot create an empire that spans multiple climate layers.

Europe is almost all just one climate layer, a minimal difference exists between the cold north, the temperate middle and the sunny south. Hell, even then the Romans were unable to cross the climate barrier to the north and just settle controlling central and south europe.

95% of military actions in (pre-industrial) history depend on climate and geography.

Freedom, baseball, apple pie and big fake titties

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- Sat, 10 Aug 2019 21:13:23 EST 19tHCttb No.57764
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Lot o American hate on this board, I thought that we were all supposed to get along?

To counter balance that is a thread about all the good things about America. You can have a glass half outlook and it's much more productive and increases global love if we start to try to understand each other's cultures, yes including admitting that not everything about America is bad

Let's start with some good things about America
Big ol titties
Fit women
Low calorie alternative foods like baked califower
Protein powder
Gyms at apartment complexes
Independent professional women
Generosity, I worked in the charity field and Americans are genuinely quite kind an caring

Let's name some more :) and have positive conversations to overshadow all the cultural bias already in so many threads, so we can all learn and spread global love ❤️ ❤️ ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Jarvis Harrycocke - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 00:09:34 EST WJ07taYS No.57765 Reply
this is a history board

Yo guy

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- Thu, 08 Aug 2019 00:55:17 EST 1YbLb96P No.57756
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Why cant we have this again, I want to be a Medieval Lord with a flock of hoes
Eugene Duckdale - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 13:08:43 EST l9faZouv No.57760 Reply
If you want that, chances are you aren't living the life of a modern lord. So you'd be a peasant.

God this board is dead

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- Mon, 13 Aug 2018 09:48:53 EST putfxC4q No.57503
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C'mon let's talk about cool history shit. circlejerk sucks.

How would the world look if WW2 never happened?
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Charles Hindlestane - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 12:56:30 EST l9faZouv No.57753 Reply
probably blue and green with bits of white
Ernest Greenfield - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 00:57:33 EST 1YbLb96P No.57757 Reply
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Theres obiously no question about it, Adolf Hitler would naturally rule the world and everyone from the Chinese to Africans would be National Socialists, or Nazis, Hail Hitler!

Countries whose people I truly feel sorry for

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- Mon, 08 Jul 2019 10:21:35 EST C/SaHHe7 No.57676
File: 1562595695501.jpg -(2452660B / 2.34MB, 1799x1005) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Countries whose people I truly feel sorry for
There are several countries whose national history have been and still is one long journey through terrible leaders, ideologies and societal problems.
I will name the worst of them and why I think like that.

>entire history is basically the common people being subjected to constant torture
>neo-confucianism (the most inhumane ideology ever conceived)
>foot binding and castration was still practiced at times when democracy either was implemented or discussed in most European countries
>near universal infanticide
>was ruled by foreign dynasties for the majority of the last millennia
Mao Zedong was just following the millennia long tradition of Chinese cruelty. Don't ever let anyone tell you anything else. But at the very least China is currently improving which is totally deserved. The Chinese have had a long and terrible history.

>was ruled by Mongols
>serfdom abolished by 1861
>was a monarchy in 1917
>after collapse of USSR, Russia turned even shittier
>nationwide corruption stems from the very top of Russian leadership
There is currently no hope for Russia. Their economy is still going down the shitter.

>long history of institutionalized corruption (lobbying) by companies
>very little working rights
>indoctrination of school children, people are brainwashed into letting companies fuck them over
>billion dollar military budget
>faux-democracy (e.i. gerrymandering, first past the post)
>both Republicans and Democrats are corrupt and elitist
>industry of propaganda (like "American Sniper")
If there are any Americans reading this then I don't know what you have been told what Europeans think about America but please know that NO western Europeans and only few eastern Europeans regards USA as anything but a poor, corrupt, miserable country.
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Polly Cheggleworth - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 04:54:41 EST S/rVdy54 No.57717 Reply
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Reuben Blebberstone - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 10:38:23 EST rbK+gS1r No.57722 Reply
Looks like some the future Amerifuck took a wrong turn somewhere.
Walter Blatherdale - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:41:47 EST C/SaHHe7 No.57754 Reply
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americans are fat

Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare.

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- Thu, 18 Jul 2019 23:24:09 EST DQP2HBjA No.57700
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Interesting historical document, Just read it thought I'd Give a brief image essay.


Bit of back story.

The CIA created an instruction manual for the Nicaraguan rebels during the second war of revolution. This was because the revolution was essentially a proxy war between the USSR + Cuba and The United States.
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Polly Cheggleworth - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 04:56:53 EST S/rVdy54 No.57718 Reply
Those CIA produced instruction manuals for rebels were popular collectors items at comic cons in the 80s & 90s
Hamilton Pockhall - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 00:23:04 EST OyVyeVjx No.57746 Reply
There's not much you can do after someone brainwashes you and makes time repeat.

Ancient Aliens

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- Sun, 12 Jun 2016 07:49:50 EST RO9VCtpC No.56723
File: 1465732190477.gif -(145178B / 141.78KB, 250x250) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Ancient Aliens
Yo, just finished watching all 20 seasons.
What do you think about them building the egyptian things and givings us alien tech?
how the fuck does transistors and magnets work??? That is alien shit right there
Also, how do you feel about Tesla being an outkast alien that lived among us?
The tribe of shabazz is real
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US exceptionalism myth

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- Sun, 23 Sep 2018 07:55:03 EST 4ndgi8mn No.57528
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Why do US retards think that the US won WWII single handedly? I drive uber and had some army guys in my car the other day and they were SHOCKED, MORTIFIED that I suggested that the USSR was both the superior fighting force and were the ones who defeated Nazi Germany (if any one force can be thanked it is indeed the Red Army).

I think its really important that Americans be told that their military is actually shit and they havent contributed a single fucking significant thing to the good of humanity in military terms besides an ASSIST in WWII. The rest of the entire military history of the US is predatory imperialist meandering around the globe and has been a net loss for humanity.

ITT we discuss good ways to teach americans that their military is evil and they are stupid to support it
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Charlotte Finnerchad - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:19:48 EST l9faZouv No.57731 Reply
Almost every decision is based on profits and not on glory. There was a brief stint in the cold war where they were more into impressing nations than they were into profit but this was crushed hard.
Charlotte Finnerchad - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:20:21 EST l9faZouv No.57732 Reply
Also, this is a very good point. Maybe we're stuck in such a state forever.
Walter Hugglefuck - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 00:30:44 EST IlyKIasb No.57751 Reply
By this logic the entire world has been in a low intensity state of world war that occasionally flares up since the 1700s. Great/regional powers competing does not a world war make.

Tutsi genocide

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- Tue, 09 Apr 2019 06:02:48 EST +bh4WZ06 No.57609
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It's been 25 years since the Tutsi genocide in Rwanda. A butchery that lasted for over a 100 days, it was fucked up beyond belief and no one really gets hold responsible.

What do you think about it? Were did it start? Who is at fault?
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Sidney Bruddlebodging - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 23:31:31 EST PqIVyg6p No.57683 Reply
I know nothing about this. Nothing. I have heard of a conflict between the Tutsi and another group, the Hutus or something? But I don't even know what country, when it was, nothing man I'm totally dumb as fuck. I'm struggling to learn about european, asian, south american history, africa i dont know shit. Can someone give me the very simple dumbed down version?
Polly Cheggleworth - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 05:13:33 EST S/rVdy54 No.57719 Reply
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i don't know why you're so insistent about forwarding the blatantly false premise that the clinton white house had any idea what was going on and was making their decisions based on past experiences when its very clear that the clinton white house had no idea what was happening in africa and didn't find out until long after there was any possibility for action.
furthermore, peacekeeping in africa is not the sole responsibility of the usa, any one of america's far more intelligent and sophisticated and much more white allies in europe could just as easily intervened on their own if they saw that america was dropping the ball

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