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US = Rome 2.0 Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Samuel Clombledale - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:32:47 EST ID:6GEx+/2g No.57289
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If you don't think the US is the cultural and philosophical continuation of Rome get the fuck out of my face.
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Charlotte Gigglebury - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 10:57:19 EST ID:hVN7XbOu No.57468 Ignore Report Reply
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Rome was foundational to Western society, but it is dead.
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John Shittingham - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 08:59:18 EST ID:LOqox0NU No.57476 Ignore Report Reply
>>57439
> instead re-branded itself as a religious hegemony which eventually diversified and splintered into multiple independent empires

but at this point what is "it"?
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Ernest Sepperhall - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 03:56:35 EST ID:MU/sd7Ce No.57527 Ignore Report Reply
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The neoclassical architecture and eagles... Yeah I guess it could be, with some modifications like abolition of slavery and equal rights for women. Germany did the same thing and got their asses kicked in ww2 and that sort of symbolism is stigmatised. The FBI and CIA use eagles as their symbols. Instead of looking for prostitutes under the arches at the Colosseum people look for them under bridges or online. It's kind of a Renaissance/enlightenment era thing philosophically. Can be argued that there is a parallel socially to Rome as a warring state before its decline, terror attacks sort of resembling barbarian vandal tribes sacking rome.


The 'war on terrorism' Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Albert Hullypet - Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:07:30 EST ID:Ytx8gGHk No.57520
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How would we be able to 'end' the war on terrorism?

The romans couldn't defeat the barbarians.

Now today terrorists are invading europe and trying to enforce Sharia law while painting themselves as helpless victims. Is this the new method of modern warfare? They are invading from the inside by the looks of it it appears they're doing it right too.

how would we finally win this so called war on terror.
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Martin Pommlefield - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 16:01:23 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57521 Ignore Report Reply
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The war on terrorism is an effort by the United States and close western allies to justify a global military presence, especially in key strategic regions like central Asia and the seaways around Arabia. The primary purpose of this is geostratgic rivalry with the other potential Eurasian superpowers in Russia and China, as well as a parallel domestic program of fear mongering.
Contrast and compare with the red scare and the cold war policy of containment.

It ends when the Americans lose the will or means to keep it up, but there is no actual enemy to defeat.
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Albert Hullypet - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:55:52 EST ID:Ytx8gGHk No.57522 Ignore Report Reply
>>57521
Wouldn't they use the CIA for that?
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Albert Suttingpig - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:37:40 EST ID:GnLfL9+w No.57525 Ignore Report Reply
Pls go back to your fox news forum.


Shays' Rebellion Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Shit Fishdock - Wed, 29 Aug 2018 02:10:52 EST ID:M0xFym5C No.57514
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Daniel Shays, Eli Parsons and Job Shattuck did nothing wrong and Samuel Adams should have been hung from a tree.
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Eugene Horringpudging - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 10:49:23 EST ID:ifP+KLNs No.57517 Ignore Report Reply
explain your position better then i will respond


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Charles Dallymere - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 13:04:25 EST ID:0qSO+rVA No.57461
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I would like to be thoroughly informed on contemporary life in (South) Korea.
Can anyone recommend me books on Korean history from around 1945 onwards, as well as anything more to do with what it's like to live there and be Korean since Industrialisation started, generational differences and such? I don't know where to begin.

I went to my local library and all they had on Korea were two Lonely Planet guides and three war memoirs written by our troops who were involved in the Korean War.
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Polly Bommleteg - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:45:45 EST ID:0qSO+rVA No.57463 Ignore Report Reply
I found a load of contemporary Korean ethnographies but they start at $40 and go up to $300 or so.
Thankfully books about North Korea are plentiful and cheap.
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Hamilton Dupperfedge - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:16:45 EST ID:yWuxaTBb No.57464 Ignore Report Reply
>>57463

Maybe OP should just go live in the North for a while. Maybe he can study there.
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Lived in Korea - Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:10:42 EST ID:zaHsBkia No.57515 Ignore Report Reply
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I lived in Korea for all of 2013 teaching English. Most of the books I read concerned Joseon dynasty happenings (King Sejong's rule and reforms, the Imjin Waeran) but one wonderful, excellent source for modern Korean history is the following blog:

http://populargusts.blogspot.com/

The author, a Canadian PhD in history (IIRC), covers all sorts of events, cultural shifts, and tensions from the late nineteenth century to the present day. There are multiple exhaustively researched posts on:

-the Olympics in 1988 (S. Korea's "we're rich now" coming-out party)
-1970's rule by Park Chung-hee, who jump-started the economy, criminalized marijuana (a traditional medicine for ~2000 years), and gang-pressed any hippies into suicide missions to the North
-the Gwangju pro-democracy uprisings and their brutal suppression
-the wealth gap and what "success" means in Korea today
-the Japanese occupation (torture, land reform, collaborators, legacy)
-the role of Christianity from early missions to present day (Korea is I think the most Christian country in all East Asia - 1/3 of the population or so?)
-anti-foreigner sentiment (the guy does kind of have a persecution complex)
-Korean literature from Yi Sang (1900's) to the present
-Korean film in cultural context (here's a good one I remember him linking to, about getting by in an increasingly money-oriented and less traditional society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S3srD7qx9c )
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Why did America even give a shit Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Phineas Fuckingstone - Wed, 20 Apr 2016 00:46:22 EST ID:NN93ashj No.56644
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Like what was the point of the cold war? Why was someone else following a different economic system... a threat?
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Lydia Crushwill - Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:51:05 EST ID:LOqox0NU No.57510 Ignore Report Reply
>>56646
So the real fight wasn't ideology but geo political dominance?
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Frederick Widgebun - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:47:24 EST ID:ifP+KLNs No.57511 Ignore Report Reply
>>57510

correct
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Wesley Bunspear - Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:04:10 EST ID:xAfK7Kl5 No.57513 Ignore Report Reply
>>57510
yes. Capitalist powers even supported Communists when it fit their aims, even at the very start of the Soviet Union. For example, Lenin was chauffeured into Russia by the German Reich. Russia in turn used Western leftists as useful idiots to further its own aims. Same as they do today with Right-wing groups like Jobbik.

And then for a different type of imperialism, you had the element of chauvinistic Jews who saw Soviet-style socialism and mass terror as a way to gain the upper hand over the Goyim, so you got seemingly paradoxical stuff like rich Jewish bankers such as Olof Aschberg, Jacob Schiff and Karl Radek financing the Bolsheviks. Winston Churchill, among others, wrote about this back in the 20's: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism


God this board is dead Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Jack Ponnernag - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 09:48:53 EST ID:putfxC4q No.57503
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C'mon let's talk about cool history shit. circlejerk sucks.

How would the world look if WW2 never happened?
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Eliza Pabberlock - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 23:22:01 EST ID:ifP+KLNs No.57504 Ignore Report Reply
everything would be the same except germany would substitute israel

they would be mad about past shit so everyone in the west would side with their shit
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Shitting Tootforth - Tue, 14 Aug 2018 09:10:27 EST ID:fON7i1mk No.57505 Ignore Report Reply
>>57504
What?
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Nicholas Sessleridge - Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:54:21 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57506 Ignore Report Reply
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I started to write out some shit but after a while I realized every scenario I can come up with is basically just WWII but different, like if Hitler just doesn't invade Poland and everybody backs off from that Japan was already in China and that would have probably lead to some sort of capitalist gang bang of the Soviet Union if they hadn't gone to war with the allies first, basically in every scenario that doesn't involve Germany declaring war on the whole world the whole world probably declares war on Russia, and that ends with millions dead in total industrial warfare then permanent stalemate and global partition until one side economically collapses as soon as nuclear weapons are invented, that or humanity goes extinct in the 40's
So I guess you have to look further back and say WWI never happened, and while it wasn't as inevitable as people tend to make out that web of alliances and balance of power politics that turned a crisis into a world war goes back 500 years, someone's gonna declare war on someone, and if Russia is one of those someone's they're gonna have a revolution and then wow it just keeps happening
So I guess you go back to Napoleon? The last time the great power structure of Europe was about to rewritten, that's how far back you have to go to make something more less equivalent to WW2 and the cold war not inevitable.

So I guess there's your answer OP, how would the world look if WW2 never happened? Napoleon would have won.


Vikings Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Shit Suzzlenick - Thu, 07 Jan 2016 11:17:16 EST ID:yEdEzxgG No.56393
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What are some good resources on the Old Norsemen, or Vikings? Namely I want to learn about their patterns on settlement around Europe. They could have set up a maritime Empire similar to what the British had in later centuries so it seems, so why was that never realized? They conquered enough land to start it.
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Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:56:30 EST ID:RBbEukYB No.57477 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57475
weak bait
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Polly Minkinpan - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:00:33 EST ID:CK1mjPuU No.57481 Ignore Report Reply
>>57477
Thats was probably a Finnish boat that Swedish historical revisionists decided to take credit for.
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Barnaby Figglefuck - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 22:19:09 EST ID:siJ9imet No.57489 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57477


russia Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Eugene Wusslewill - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:51:44 EST ID:jDhu60RY No.57488
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>Ivan the Terrible
>1530 to 1584
while west europeans underwent the renaissance and painted realistic art russia was literally still giving their kings epithets like were they legends and only made one painting of their first tsar that is literally middle age tier


Critique my essay Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Phyllis Clayshit - Thu, 31 May 2018 14:07:58 EST ID:lWvxu3m1 No.57457
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opinions?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1erY25ma6CjpmXdIsBVX-UIosKJaEon5zS_MyIkuR5Z4/edit?usp=sharing
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Augustus Fuckingstone - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 10:42:32 EST ID:ReOcdgba No.57458 Ignore Report Reply
Its bad


Musketmen Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Graham Mavingridge - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 19:47:46 EST ID:KCDGi4tU No.56914
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So in the 17th and 16th century muskets used a matchlock or wheellock mechanism to fire and therefore took a long time to reload, leaving the musketeers vulnerable, so they needed Pikemen to protect them. My question is- why didn't they just attach the pike underneath the musket and turn them into Piketeers?

I mean if you attached it underneath the musket with hoops, you could move the pike along so the musket was at the centre of gravity when you fired it. And obviously if it got to close quarters you could just us the pike like a pike.
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Ebenezer Turveyforth - Sat, 05 May 2018 20:14:38 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57451 Ignore Report Reply
>>57450
Yeah you can compensate for it when you're fighting unarmed people or fellow gun users.

But if you're up against someone with an actual melee weapon, like a spear or sword, you're fucked. Unless you're some kind of duel master. In which case you probably would use a sword or spear, instead of a bayonet.
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Henry Pungerdock - Tue, 08 May 2018 06:07:29 EST ID:vk3jeQdF No.57452 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57450
I've been trained in fighting with bayonets in the military. It's not the alignment so much as the balance. Everything at the bottom near your hand is heavy and your weapon tip is extremely light. The complete opposite of any specialised melee weapon. It's also why sweeping from the back with the butt is a lot more satisfying.
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Angus Clenningwill - Wed, 09 May 2018 13:06:30 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57453 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57452
>It's not the alignment so much as the balance.

I love you bro, no homo.


Histories biggest Chad Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Isabella Blunnergold - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 21:26:22 EST ID:2kVQJUZ4 No.57414
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My vote goes to Mark Antony
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Ebenezer Sillerhock - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 01:03:53 EST ID:zPMk1XQv No.57425 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57424
Yeah, I got really sad when I tried to pick up a picture of him for my post and all duckduckgo gave me was excerpts from the manga. I imagine Medieval poetic epic fans feel the same when they look up Astolfo and drown in lewd femboi goodness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astolfo
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Hedda Dreddlewag - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:21:56 EST ID:2kVQJUZ4 No.57426 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57425
Oh my god I'm so fucking sick of Astolfo
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Angus Boblingridge - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:30:10 EST ID:zPMk1XQv No.57429 Ignore Report Reply
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>>57426
Yeah he kind of has become the meme husbando of choice for fashionable bisexuals and other irritants. I like him, he's so very cute and bubbly, but not unlike with Heath Ledger's Joker back in the day, I have to keep a wide berth so I don't get swallowed up by the cancer.

Back on topic, though, I'd also like to nominate Ted Bundy.
>grows up in a home with an abusive, racist grandfather and a grandmother that gets shock treatment monthly or so for depression
>is told that his mother is his sister, figures out that this is bullshit on his own
>ends up rich and successful anyways
>some girl breaks his heart
>he gets a new girlfriend, cheats on her with the old one, winning back the old gf's love just so he can then break her heart and laugh about it
>can get any woman he wants
>abducts, rapes, tortures, and murders them anyways
>in jail as a murder suspect
>fucking escapes, could have laid low and gone free, just goes around murdering people anyways
>final murder trial is going well, he might just get off scot-free somehow
>shithouses the whole deal anyways
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ISIS Status Update Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Vulvarin Trembling - Thu, 14 May 2015 09:42:52 EST ID:q6QF5w+I No.55391
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Even as a pacifist I hope ISIS gets wiped off the earth.
Let all Bullets and Bombs rain down on these deranged religiots.

What's the status actually?
Are they still in control of large areas?
How much is left of them?
When will they be defeated?
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Edwin Doggleridge - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:07:04 EST ID:dUHNnmI0 No.57356 Ignore Report Reply
>>57353

I just had a realization that the Kurds are basically the new Poles. Turkey:Syria:US::UK:Russia:Germany
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Priscilla Murdbanks - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:49:36 EST ID:sYpKvVF0 No.57404 Ignore Report Reply
Looks like its gone South for the Kurds in Afrin with the Turkish army offensive. Meanwhile ISIS have re-emerged in Iraq and have been in conflict with the Kurds in recent weeks.
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Phyllis Brookville - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:30:47 EST ID:/mZfItc6 No.57405 Ignore Report Reply
>>57404

yeah, poor kurd-bros got fucked in afrin by erdoganistan


The Oil Industry Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Frederick Blaggleham - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:40:04 EST ID:8P+TfceH No.57305
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Easily one of the most influential shadow histories in global economics.

Why isn't it talked about more in schools?

Wars have been decided and aimed at the acquiring this black gold.

/his/ Discord for General History - Just started back up again, join if interested
https://discord.gg/sf9tYGd
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Ernest Sublingchork - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:33:50 EST ID:ZDNGCe0G No.57381 Ignore Report Reply
Daniel Yergin, The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money, and Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1stQW6i1Ko

Perhaps a good starting point? I enjoyed the documentary series.
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Nicholas Tillingford - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:55:30 EST ID:QXkOojeI No.57382 Ignore Report Reply
most people are under the illusion of nationalism, with a hint of tribemind us vs. them, good guys vs. bad guys thinking
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Caroline Murdson - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:49:12 EST ID:gGfsSn/q No.57402 Ignore Report Reply
>>57305
It's not taught in schools because then there's a whole other list of things that should be talked about, like the way the middle East was mapped and forced to comply to those borders, and how THAT was based on the division of Africa and the ability to exploit other resources. And how THAT was allowable because of the leadership that was in charge of WWI and WWII, our deified governmental leaders who were, at best, period socially liberal and radically so but today were still astoundingly openly racist. And THEN you have to talk about...
See how this is going? This doesn't happen because, no snit, there's a school that no limits historybeing truly taught in public schools, and showing people for their entire persons and not just the neat stuff you can talk about at the soda shop with B&V. I mean, it makes for boring discourse ALLL. THROUGH. LIFE. But it also means others can... feel better? I dunno.


Was Jesus an Iron Age cult leader? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Doris Fuckingson - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:42:44 EST ID:6FQAmMFX No.57218
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Hi all (Before I start quick disclosure: I am an atheist but I am here to have an honest discussion and am not here to troll and offend anyone.)

When i read the account of Christ and I read it as a myth that was meant to be examined as testimony I imagine that instead of reading a book Luke, John, or Matthew are at the bar just telling me a story about some guy they knew. This is what a testimony is after all: a story someone tells you. If a book is written in the format of a testimony thus you must not necessarily believe the narrator at all times. Sometimes you can assume that he is lying or exaggerating things just like a stranger telling you a story at a bar would. (Sorry for the long intro but it will help the rest of this make sense... hopefully) So following this logic and using its lens to examine the bible I make 3 assumptions as I read the accounts of Christs life.

1 - Jesus is not divine and has no special powers. (ex. I've never seen a dude walk on water why would I believe a testimony that says someone saw someone do it somewhere.)

2 - No one else has special powers everyone is a human limited by the knowledge and culture of Iron Age Middle East.

3 - Jesus is corruptible just like every other person.

Now with all this in play as I go through the bible I hear a story about a Iron age Rabbi that ran an organization with lots of hall marks of a cult like abandoning families to follow a holy teacher, giving up wealth, and dedicating one entire life soul, body, and mind to the holy teacher. Further this holy teacher showed them a bunch of cheap parlor tricks. The holy teacher was so narcissistic and egocentric that anytime anything other then him comes up he tells you how unimportant it is compared to him and tells you to give up everything just to worship him and serve him.

Further he is reckless and his delusions of grandeur like thinking he is himself a god as well as his corrupt nature like soaking himself in a years wages worth of perfume in one sitting in front of a bunch of people who gave everything up to obey and follow him. The picture is clear. I do not see a wise and loving guy. I see Charles Manson or Marshall Applewhite.

Again, I am not here trying to offend anyone, I am just trying to honestly explain my thought process. Now that I explained my thoughts, what I really want to ask is what are yours? How do you read the bible? How do you see Jesus? What do you think were his motivations and aspirations? And most importantly why do you believe these things.
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Hannah Hecklewell - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:15:23 EST ID:tzC97MoX No.57391 Ignore Report Reply
>>57218

i think OP you're being slightly harsh on jesus here, not way off, just reading some sinister intentions in to what may have been genuine philosophy, misguided or not.

first of all Jesus may not have ever claimed to be capable of miracles. For instance take the fish and bread that fed too many people, maybe in real life, Jesus convinced a large number of very hungry people to share a relatively small amount of food and everybody ended up with some. That might constitute a "miracle" in some sense, it would be the kind of thing that would make you respect the charisma and authority of somebody, without it being actually supernatural. And then 5-8 generations and 100-200 years later when the gospels were written (just ball parking here) the story had morphed into full miracles

pretty much all of the miracles i could find in the gospels could be explained in similar ways, turning the water to wine could be done in a similar way to the fish and bread, maybe he was just good at planning parties in an era where most parties ended up with physical altercations over the wine. as for raising people from the dead i dont recall him ever raising anybody who wasnt recently deceased and ancient medical knowledge wasnt that good, maybe some poor souls werent really dead and had a brief bit of awareness when jesus happened to come through and bless them

so i dont think the miracles thing is necessarily evidence that Jesus was deceiving his disciples.

as far as asking that his followers abandon family and possessions, there's no doubt this is a hallmark of cult behavior, however, i think there's a difference between deceptive narcisissitic cults and genuinely deluded cults, like the difference between charles manson's cult and mormonism

maybe jesus really truly believed his followers would achieve the highest truth, morality, etc by giving up everything and following him, he would not be even remotely alone in thinking this way, its basically the story of like every ancient buddhist/eastern spiritual leader

this applies to the fact that he focuses everything on himself too, if he really thought he had discovered the secrets of the universe, then it would only be right for everybody to drop everything and listen to him, and maybe he really thought there was no better use for a ton of expensive perfume than to make some cryptic philophical point (i actually dont remember what the perfume thing was about)
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Edwin Tootbury - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 12:34:56 EST ID:PmmRJlWL No.57411 Ignore Report Reply
>>57388
If true, it'd be pointless to keep them so secret. Nobody cares about dualism in 2018. There's plenty enough Gnostic texts out there to piece together what they believed. All they'd be doing is hindering the progress of archaeology. Would you not want to provide evidence of the success of your past conquests?

No, I suspect the texts in that library are far more 'foundational' than heretical.
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Walter Hillerhood - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:05:55 EST ID:IlyKIasb No.57430 Ignore Report Reply
OP's observation is neither new nor particularly unique btw.

>>57250
As Simon bar Kokhba, but he is not remembered like Jesus was because his followers blew their load fast.

It is better to say that Hellenistic age Judaism fostered both messianic and proselytic tendencies that manifested in a diverse set of cultic beliefs based on individual spiritual leaders, of which Christianity was one and the birth of Gnosticism is likely tied into this process where regional communities could have significant sway over scriptural interpretation.

In other words, Judaism by the 1st century AD was rapidly diversifying as a congregation far away from Herod's Temple. This was the beginning of the diaspora, and in the beginning, it was fueled by converts. Modern Judaism discourages converts, but the Maccabees readily encouraged the conversion of gentiles to ward off centuries of depopulation in Judea proper. There were dense populations in Alexandria and Cyprus, Greece, Syria, and Rome itself. They were not active in banking, which was predominately dominated by established Latin or Greek banking charters that had evolved from the temple lending system of Archaic times.

In this context, much like you can trace evolutionary ancestors back by comparing structural similarities, the birth of Christianity becomes quite clear.


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