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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
Nazi`s rebelling against Hitler/Evil Nazi`s Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Edward Pellymare - Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:13:30 EST ID:foP4JLPL No.55071
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I thought this might be a cool topic. It seemed to me that lots of Nazi`s in power were completely evil/insane as fuck. You got stories of bloody Mengele, fucking Amon (Or whatever the hell the name of that guy from Shlinder`s list) and etc.

Now, what about that actual sane guys? The guys noticing the people around them were fucking insane/evil, and tried to rebel?

My example is going to be the obvious Erwin Rommel (The Desert Fox), who after becoming a hero for his military successes, became involved in a plan to assassinate Hitler (Though he wanted to simply arrest him). He was also known for his humane treatment of enemy POWs, and ignoring orders to kill Jews.

Now it`s your turn.....any examples of rebelling Nazi`s?
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Edwin Senkinforth - Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:49:58 EST ID:VJXCfuAd No.55202 Ignore Report Reply
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Listverse just recently mentioned some kind Nazi`s, so I`ll post them.

Zoltan Kubinyi

From the moment he took over the local labor camp, Kubinyi was letting his humanity shine through. Where other Nazis abused their charges, he allowed them to observe Jewish holidays, even fasting alongside them on Yom Kippur. Where other camp commanders let the weak starve to death, he sneaked them extra rations. But the best part came when Kubinyi got orders from Nazi high command to ship his prisoners to the gas chambers. As the Third Reich disintegrated around them, Kubinyi marched his men into Hungary and tried his best to hide them from other Nazis. It wasn’t easy. At one point, a group of Hungarian policemen identified the men as Jews and prepared to ship them to Germany, only for Kubinyi to ply them with alcohol and get his men away while the policemen slept. He got them to a town occupied by the Red Army, saving their lives.We wish we could tell you the story ended there, but there’s one last act. Despite his work in rescuing Jewish prisoners, Kubinyi was arrested by the Russians and deported to Siberia, where he died in undeserved anonymity. Today, he is listed as Righteous Among the Nations for allowing his humanity to triumph.


Edwin Senkinforth - Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:53:19 EST ID:VJXCfuAd No.55203 Ignore Report Reply
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John Rabe

Hitler’s man in Nanking when the city fell to the Japanese army, Rabe was an ardent Nazi steeped in eugenics theory. This only makes his actions more exceptional. Faced with a rampaging Imperial Army hacking Chinese civilians to death with machetes, Rabe quietly decided to put his ideology to one side and become a hero.Although ordered to leave the city for his safety, Rabe instead assembled a loose group of a dozen German and American expats and charged them with creating an “international zone.” As the Japanese troops raped and looted their way across Nanking, he and his group set about protecting the 250,000 Chinese who fled to the zone. Without even so much as a pistol to defend himself with, Rabe patrolled the city’s streets, facing down gangs of soldiers and stopping them from raping women. He dug foxholes in his own garden and sheltered another 650 civilians there. He kept this display of courage up for four whole months.By the time the Japanese left, Nanking was in ruins. Thousands had died. But the international zone had pulled through. It’s thought today that this staunch supporter of Hitler may have saved as many as 250,000 lives. Although he was arrested as a Nazi loyalist after the war and died in misery, he has an especially fitting tribute today: A whole generation of children in Nanking are named “Rabe.” (Zoltan is still a cooler name)
Edwin Senkinforth - Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:56:07 EST ID:VJXCfuAd No.55204 Ignore Report Reply
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Do Neanethal traits explain the Israel/Palestinian conflict? Locked Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Nigger Suckletidge - Wed, 08 Apr 2015 07:45:51 EST ID:KwNpn4O4 No.55115
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>“Basically, I estimate that about seventy percent of the present crisis on this planet can be fairly attributed to the machinations of Neanderthal-Semitic elements of the human population against the Cro-Magnon majority.” — Michael Bradley, Esau’s Empire

The Khazars were pushed into Central and Eastern Europe by Mongol invasions, and their descendants comprise the vast majority of modern Jewry. Although these have no direct historical or genetic connections with the Semitic Jews of the Holy Land, both groups shared a Neanderthal origin in the Caucasus Mountains in the far distant pre-Judaic past.
Bradley contends that people and cultures emerging from the Caucasus Mountains — a known refuge of late lingering Neanderthal populations — in proto-historical and historical times, would have remained highly intelligent, highly aggressive and psychosexually maladapted, promoting a high level of in-group cohesion. These traits, Bradley contends, explain the survival of Biblical Hebrews against all odds and also the inordinate social influence of modern Western Jews.
Bradley contends that there is no mystique of “the chosen people.” Monotheism— a purely male and abstract Godhead— is merely a result of Neanderthal glacial physical and mental adaptations or “maladaptations.”

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Emma Grimgold - Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:10:02 EST ID:LV4IRemj No.55145 Ignore Report Reply
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>"But is it 10 percent? Twenty percent? I have no idea."

>I have no idea

Ah yes, scientists will be citing this vague conjecture from the National Geographic for years to come.
Nigger Brurringson - Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:55:04 EST ID:fFCl/TFP No.55146 Ignore Report Reply


Talk about pseudoscience.
David Chigglefick - Thu, 09 Apr 2015 21:09:26 EST ID:lDCacfae No.55147 Ignore Report Reply
Well why don't they grab every population, jews, basques, gypies etc. and test their dna content? Why haven't they done this?


According to one research assistant, they did find some were higher like 20 percent (as in 20 percent of their dna is neandethal, not they have 20 percent of a set of neandethal dna markers). But they censored these populations from the sutdy, restricting it to only 5 populations.

You can tell by inspecting physical features of Jews and neandethal recreations that they must have a high neandethal dna content. They're living fossils!

battles or campaigns with "cobbiled together" forces Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Phyllis Clayshaw - Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:59:28 EST ID:Rcx8Pwfc No.54756
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I have been interested in battles and campaigns were one side in desperate defense or to react to a threat, gathers together a random assortment of forces and allies and confederate forces and end up with either a crushing defeat or some kind of crazy unpredicted crushing victory, I guess a good example of what im looking for would be the Battle of the Catolonian Field where roman general Aittius got all kinds of random shit together and fought Attila the Hun to a bloody stand still, and forced him to withdrawal from Gual for the remainder of the year. but anyways im looking for online articles or documentary's so I can enjoy learning about more of these events, Anyone got any good recommendations?
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Clara Bemblepen - Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:33:17 EST ID:LV4IRemj No.55079 Ignore Report Reply

The first crusade was a transnational social enterprise. Literally anyone could join up, and many pilgrims were absorbed along the way, like a gigantic snowball plowing it's way through Asia Minor, including several thousand survivors of the People's Crusade and Peter the Hermit himself.

Certainly the noble retinues formed the core of the army, but also there were many camp followers and genuine zealots who took the cross. Many brought families with them, the movement of persons appearing to the Byzantines at first glance to be another barbarian invasion.

The first crusade was an ad-hoc affair. They would never have made it without an unlikely cast of allies. From the Byzantines unpublicized yet furious land and sea campaign against the Rum, logistical support from Venice, shipwrecked sailors, fighting priests, Armenians holding the flank, etc.

Hell they would never have even taken Jerusalem if a crew of insane Venetians hadn't crashed through the Fatimid blockade, cannibalized the wood from their ships, and had a master siege engineer handy to build giant towers. This was totally unplanned. They had no contingency other than die of thirst in the desert (since all the wells were poisoned). Before this they were launching attacks without ladders.

In short the first crusade is on topic as fuck.
Beatrice Brookworth - Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:43:19 EST ID:Vxn3KaCO No.55082 Ignore Report Reply
And yet, the crusade was *not* fought by "peasant armies".
Cyril Hickledatch - Mon, 06 Apr 2015 12:11:31 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.55084 Ignore Report Reply

Having a bunch of plebeians in your army doesn't turn your army into an army of plebs.

~ signed, a descendant of a crusader family (my ancestors fought in the crusade, and all i got was a really long and awkward surname)

"Steampunk without steam" Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Eugene Billingman - Thu, 02 Apr 2015 21:17:57 EST ID:CSu4lNmY No.55059
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So I'm trying to create a fantasy world.
A main concept I've decided on is that the people in this world have some semi-modern technology, but they do not understand steam power/combustion whatsoever. The idea is to create a mixture of medieval and industrializing/victorican Europe.

For example, there are "railroads" which consist of laid track, large rail cars but no engine - they are pulled by a team of animals. So there is some concept of "global communication" and traveling large areas.

Realistically, could a civilization harness electricity without ever understanding combustion? For example would it be too great of a suspension of reality for the civilization to have working radios, but no engines/cars/whatever?

I know there is some evidence of a Roman "factory" where they made fish products or something - could large-scale mass production be achieved without any steel (requires smelting) or any steam power? What information do you have on water or wind powered manufactoring? General discussion I guess, kind of lost but want to take this further.
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Nicholas Dorringhall - Fri, 03 Apr 2015 14:09:32 EST ID:3ahqEesg No.55066 Ignore Report Reply

ohhh for FFS, I know this works, let me try a third time durrrrrr

Nathaniel Haddleville - Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:21:19 EST ID:EYQ6O056 No.55068 Ignore Report Reply
they stole that technology from the native americans!
Lydia Shakebury - Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:05:20 EST ID:8hSk1rC9 No.55073 Ignore Report Reply
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Trains predate steam engines by about a century, but only managed smaller loads, like a single passenger car for any distance.
They still used iron tracks, but wooden ones aren't unheard of.
For long distances and trains of any size, pic related is just silly.

WW1 reverted to oxen-pulled trains at the front lines, since the smaller tracks/trains were faster to setup/repair and didn't leave a big plume of steam for the artillery spotters.

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