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Ukrainian-Russo Conflict a.k.a War In Donbass

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- Sat, 28 Sep 2019 09:34:56 EST 2wlb/aoh No.57824
File: 1569677696486.jpg -(734674B / 717.46KB, 1065x736) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Ukrainian-Russo Conflict a.k.a War In Donbass
Was browsing around and realized most people don't really understand the conflict that happened. Made this thread for sharing pictures and insight on the conflict that happend.
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Rebecca Feckleset - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 16:56:46 EST rbK+gS1r No.57825 Reply
Pretty easy to understand really.

Rich people, Russo-Ukrainians and Russia are the boss in Ukraine. Ukrainian people are tired of living in a radioactive corrupt shithole with no jobs. They rebel.

End result. Civil war. Also, the new Ukrainian government does in Chernobyl what 30 years of post-Soviet cleanup couldn't do (because all that French gov/French nuclear industry money ended up in Russian oligarch wallets instead of being used).

>France funded a fuckload of the Chernobyl cleanup because France gets like 70%/80% of their power from nuclear, and they don't like sharing the continent with the fucking symbol of nuclear power misuse, so they want that shit cleaned up

Why is the Judge Rotenberg Center still open?

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 05:22:22 EST BxA+b6t5 No.57778
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Why on earth this is place still open? At what point does it get shut down?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Knzx6PVvG0

The "treatments" provided in that hellhole are illegal in every country on earth BUT the USA. The use electric shocks, but not in the way common therapy for such is applied, but as 'aversion therapy'...by strapping kids to tables and running electricity through them as a punishment. This 'aversion therapy' has left second and third degree burns on some of these kids, and not only is it legal in this country, it is court ordered.

It's illegal to do this to murderers*, but who gives a shit if it's some enthusiastic kid, right?

*And well it should be!
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Charlotte Hubberway - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 23:51:48 EST SApkZKRL No.57822 Reply
Another thing people don't want to know about. If I were to tell people about this they would brush it off or not believe me, if I were to show them this they would protest at having to know about it & ask why I would want to look up these things.

This is something I had assumed admittedly had long been abandoned in practice & find deeply disturbing it's continued use in the states...

What Do?

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- Thu, 08 Aug 2019 01:00:14 EST 1YbLb96P No.57758
File: 1565240414176.jpg -(55233B / 53.94KB, 525x557) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What Do?
>You are walking through the park
>See this
>What Do?
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Basil Goblingkork - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 15:34:26 EST VhjDdOQW No.57808 Reply
Laugh uncontrollably, triggering an asthma attack, then inhale him.

Yo guy

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- Thu, 08 Aug 2019 00:55:17 EST 1YbLb96P No.57756
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Why cant we have this again, I want to be a Medieval Lord with a flock of hoes
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Eugene Duckdale - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 13:08:43 EST l9faZouv No.57760 Reply
>>57756
If you want that, chances are you aren't living the life of a modern lord. So you'd be a peasant.

Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare.

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- Thu, 18 Jul 2019 23:24:09 EST DQP2HBjA No.57700
File: 1563506649431.jpg -(128246B / 125.24KB, 374x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare.
Interesting historical document, Just read it thought I'd Give a brief image essay.

ORIGINAL HERE
https://web.archive.org/web/20060210134317/http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/18/documents/cia.ops/

Bit of back story.

The CIA created an instruction manual for the Nicaraguan rebels during the second war of revolution. This was because the revolution was essentially a proxy war between the USSR + Cuba and The United States.
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Polly Cheggleworth - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 04:56:53 EST S/rVdy54 No.57718 Reply
>>57700
Those CIA produced instruction manuals for rebels were popular collectors items at comic cons in the 80s & 90s
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Hamilton Pockhall - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 00:23:04 EST OyVyeVjx No.57746 Reply
>>57720
There's not much you can do after someone brainwashes you and makes time repeat.

Ancient Aliens

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- Sun, 12 Jun 2016 07:49:50 EST RO9VCtpC No.56723
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Yo, just finished watching all 20 seasons.
What do you think about them building the egyptian things and givings us alien tech?
how the fuck does transistors and magnets work??? That is alien shit right there
Also, how do you feel about Tesla being an outkast alien that lived among us?
The tribe of shabazz is real
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US exceptionalism myth

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- Sun, 23 Sep 2018 07:55:03 EST 4ndgi8mn No.57528
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Why do US retards think that the US won WWII single handedly? I drive uber and had some army guys in my car the other day and they were SHOCKED, MORTIFIED that I suggested that the USSR was both the superior fighting force and were the ones who defeated Nazi Germany (if any one force can be thanked it is indeed the Red Army).

I think its really important that Americans be told that their military is actually shit and they havent contributed a single fucking significant thing to the good of humanity in military terms besides an ASSIST in WWII. The rest of the entire military history of the US is predatory imperialist meandering around the globe and has been a net loss for humanity.

ITT we discuss good ways to teach americans that their military is evil and they are stupid to support it
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Charlotte Finnerchad - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:19:48 EST l9faZouv No.57731 Reply
>>57729
Almost every decision is based on profits and not on glory. There was a brief stint in the cold war where they were more into impressing nations than they were into profit but this was crushed hard.
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Charlotte Finnerchad - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:20:21 EST l9faZouv No.57732 Reply
>>57730
Also, this is a very good point. Maybe we're stuck in such a state forever.
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Walter Hugglefuck - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 00:30:44 EST IlyKIasb No.57751 Reply
>>57730
By this logic the entire world has been in a low intensity state of world war that occasionally flares up since the 1700s. Great/regional powers competing does not a world war make.

Tutsi genocide

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- Tue, 09 Apr 2019 06:02:48 EST +bh4WZ06 No.57609
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It's been 25 years since the Tutsi genocide in Rwanda. A butchery that lasted for over a 100 days, it was fucked up beyond belief and no one really gets hold responsible.

What do you think about it? Were did it start? Who is at fault?
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Sidney Bruddlebodging - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 23:31:31 EST PqIVyg6p No.57683 Reply
I know nothing about this. Nothing. I have heard of a conflict between the Tutsi and another group, the Hutus or something? But I don't even know what country, when it was, nothing man I'm totally dumb as fuck. I'm struggling to learn about european, asian, south american history, africa i dont know shit. Can someone give me the very simple dumbed down version?
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Polly Cheggleworth - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 05:13:33 EST S/rVdy54 No.57719 Reply
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>>57675
i don't know why you're so insistent about forwarding the blatantly false premise that the clinton white house had any idea what was going on and was making their decisions based on past experiences when its very clear that the clinton white house had no idea what was happening in africa and didn't find out until long after there was any possibility for action.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1993-01-27-9301050954-story.html
furthermore, peacekeeping in africa is not the sole responsibility of the usa, any one of america's far more intelligent and sophisticated and much more white allies in europe could just as easily intervened on their own if they saw that america was dropping the ball

Who was the most powerful person in history?

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- Wed, 10 Jul 2019 18:52:14 EST l9faZouv No.57684
File: 1562799134588.jpg -(8753B / 8.55KB, 193x261) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Who was the most powerful person in history?
It's a difficult question, subjective but not entirely.

What I mean by "powerful" is also not the same as influential. When I mean "Power" I mean power over people to do the things you want with the means to do them. The measure of this power would be the scale and scope of the things done.

For instance: Although Jesus Christ created one of the most influential religions of all time, I'd argue the man had very little power, probably less a few hundred people during his life. I'd also argue that after his death, his direct will and teachings were vastly skewed and ignored by almost every Christian.

What I do mean is someone like Joseph Stalin who had power over 1/6th of the earth's landmass and close to 190 million people directly at the time of his death.

Indirectly, 78 million people in the Eastern Bloc (not including Yugoslavia) were dominated by his policies.

In China and North Korea, Stalin had influence in policy but ultimately they were independent states by virtue of their leaders. However, his interest in these countries was creating allies over puppets.

His influence on Mao however was considerable, Mao himself saying nearly 70% of his policies were directly influenced by Stalinism.

The numbers aren't the most impressive in history, his power over them was. Essentially placing himself as a living God. He directly signed the death warrant for 40,000 people and his "Great purge" is responsible for around 1.2 million people.

His regime killed around 8 million Soviets altogether, directly through killings and gulag labor deaths or indirectly (disputed) through famine. But when he told them to stop, they stopped and when he told agriculture to grow, it grew.

During the famous famine, around 60 million tons of grain were produced. (CIA Estimate)

By the time Stalin died 92 million tons of grain were Harvested in the Soviet Union,
As well as massive new yields of potatoes, livestock and other food. (CIA estimate)

This is to say that, probably despite the failings of his policies if he wanted to he could control how many people starved, vs how many people got fat and he exercised this control, it's even estimated that his collectivization directly lead to the devaluation of grain that lead to the great depression. (disputed obviously)

His policies also made one of the greatest leaps in Industrialization ever seen, transforming a mostly rural nation of many nationalities and traditions into an industrial powerhouse that rivaled the United States.

Essentially, with the stroke of a pen.

Before the surrender of Germany he was in control (But yielded command) of nearly 13 million soldiers the second largest army in history after the United States in 1945 at 16 million.
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Sophie Bardwater - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:38:11 EST PqIVyg6p No.57687 Reply
julius caesar

kiss my ass

Which worked Better?

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- Sat, 07 Nov 2015 14:40:49 EST o6keS00K No.56263
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I was doing some thinking about the current state of the Union, and I found myself ruminating on how if Reconstruction had been followed through on more sincerely, like maybe is Lincoln hadn't gotten assassinated or at least someone more resolved than Johnson had succeeded him, maybe today we'd be closer to a less socially stratified country.
And I got to thinking, we did that after WWII with denazification (we in this case meaning the allies instead of just the US). Reconstruction lasted several years longer, but seems to have had less effective results than the Denazification efforts in post WWII Germany. Besides obvious advanced in technology like with telecommunications and weapons, what are the reasons that Germany has less admiration for it's Nazi period than the southern state have for their "lost cause."? Was is just that Nazism only lasted around a decade whereas slavery had been in the south for centuries?

Or am I wrong? As an American am I romanticizing Denazification? I know there are still neo-nazi in germany but they seem to have less of a presence than the neo-confederates in the U.S.

How about what happened in South Africa? Did Truth and Reconciliation do better or worse than both or either?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_Era
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:53:24 EST XsO0o/wD No.57658 Reply
>>56263
>reconstruction
More like exploitation period. Slaves somehow had t worse due to not being paid enough to live on (because a slave you at least have to treat as an investment, unlike a wageslave), the feds worked hard to create racial strife, and of course everything that could be done to slow down the recovery of the cotton industry was done, for the profits of the Roosevelt and Rothschilds families, who got filthy fucking rich off of running cotton from sassoon plantations in india to england's textile factories and then selling it to europe. (note, the sassoons also were the ones growing the opium and demanding it got shipped into china at any cost. I assume as an economic weapon, since slowing industrialization of china was key to them making profit.)
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Shit Blythehall - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:32:23 EST PqIVyg6p No.57660 Reply
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>>56294

>Fuck hitler and his cronies

>For anything they did that I may agree with,

bruh how could you combine those clauses back to back
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Oliver Crovingdore - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:26:22 EST x/cVVmAk No.57672 Reply
>>56286
Dude, classical southern culture has been dead for decades and got replaced by walmart, plastic cowboy hats and meth.

Tell me everything about America + (Soviet) Russia + Middle East

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- Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:00:45 EST asXAvW71 No.56601
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I'm trying to discuss ISIS with my friends and family, but eventually we always seem to hit some sort of dark spot of ignorance. Questions like:
  • Why is ISIS about religion, unlike Al-Qaeda?
  • Why did America create Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Why is influence in the ME so important?
  • Why did Iraq invade Kuwait, and why was it important enough to cause the Gulf War?
  • Why was the US buddies with Saddam? Why did the relationship go south?
  • Why does the US fear Iran so much?
  • Why did the USSR invade Afghanistan?
  • What possible gain could there be in turning the ME communist?
  • Why does Israel exist?
  • What's Clinton's role?

This is just a fraction of all the questions I have. Please don't feel limited to just answering these questions. I'm really trying to understand the current situation and how we got here. I'm also looking for a good, mostly OBJECTIVE documentary on the subject (possibly impossible to find?)
Really, I'm just looking for an outline of the past 60 years of history, simple enough for anyone interested enough to ask the question to understand. I realize I could just google it, but most of the times the reasoning they provide is as dry and unhelpful as "it was a in response to this event".

I know this is asking for much, but face it, ya'll fuckers love history enough that you'll enjoy telling me everything you know. you enjoy telling ignoramuses like me what's up.
Tl;DR: read the title and do it.
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Nell Feffingtedging - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:55:57 EST XsO0o/wD No.57643 Reply
>>56601
The Islamic state was set up by saudis and israel to conduct assymetrical warfare with the primary objective of crippling Syria to allow Israel to steal even more of their land.
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Nicholas Wickledock - Fri, 07 Jun 2019 08:12:11 EST pJUfCjVH No.57655 Reply
>>56686
I'm trying to watch this now but jesus is it fucking slow. It just has tons of random clips with zero relevance to anything. I'm glad I didn't watch this before watching hypernormalization or I probably would have just given up on it by now. How can you make stuff that is so great and also make stuff that is so terrible? I'm sure he has a point that he will get to eventually, but not before making me watch random clips from old tv shows about grooming dogs because that's clearly super important and relevant.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:55:23 EST XsO0o/wD No.57659 Reply
>>57643
Anon, the Saudis and Israelis are two sides of the same families. The house of Saud are Kohen, descendants of Aaron, are they not?

Communists in Afghanistan

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- Fri, 24 May 2019 09:58:30 EST GJ8VKaxx No.57647
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Can anybody direct me to the nearest information about them? I mean, it's common knowledge that the USA teamed up with the fundies like the Taliban to fight communist expansion by the USSR which was gay in the first place, but were there independent reds in Afghanistan?
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Ernest Chamblespear - Thu, 30 May 2019 16:25:02 EST GJ8VKaxx No.57651 Reply
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>>57650
Thank you so much

neanderthals

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- Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:28:21 EST jDhu60RY No.57483
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i have just read the whole wiki page about neanderthals
how the fuck did the meme that they were smarter than homo sapiens come about?
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Angus Fuckinghood - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:09:32 EST rbK+gS1r No.57612 Reply
>>57611
Don't forget domesticated animals showing smarter behavior than wild animals, yet having smaller brains than wild animals.

(The shrinking is probably in fight-flight-response areas diminishing over the ages of breeding)
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Nell Feffingtedging - Mon, 20 May 2019 12:58:46 EST XsO0o/wD No.57644 Reply
>>57608
Actually, I'd say that the "Neanderthal dna in europeans" is misleading, as the statements treat everyone in europe as one race and do not account for minority populations in the statistics.
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Edward Bammerhud - Thu, 23 May 2019 16:48:16 EST GJ8VKaxx No.57646 Reply
I always figured Thals weren't smarter or dumber just different
Probably different language, more adapted to cold conditions, hunting larger animals with smaller numbers than them African homo saps
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