Trench warfare: Why did the superiours not get shot by their own? View Thread Reply Hide Voltron Vulva - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:39:37 EST 8alMSIHq No.57490 File: 1532158777299.jpg -(382993B / 374.02KB, 900x637) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why did all the poor blokes not shoot their warmongering superiors in WW1? Because running out was clearly allways suicide, and killing your officer wouldn't be very obvious in the chaos of war? 2 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Phyllis Buzzfuck - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 02:35:06 EST ZVxEwvHV No.57524 Reply Europe is much smaller than asia, and flanders was pretty treeless through most of the war, so no isolated jungle patrols where you can frag the Loyola U ROTC weenie in abstract self-defense >> Jessica Tandy needs candy !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:59:35 EST dk2vfwv1 No.57544 Reply Hind sight is 20/20, trench warfare was the solution to a problem (the problem that mobile warfare in the first few months of the war was unsustainably bloody) however digging trenches created new problems. And yes there were dumb generals but there were also many generals that created solutions to the problems of trench warfare (like the tank, coordinated artillery fire, and small unit tactics to name a few) so it's easy to blame dumb stuffy generals for trench warfare but in reality there were forces at play that forced the hands of generals and nations.Read up on the siege of Petersburg in the American Civil War and Sipon Kop in the 2nd Boer War. >> Eugene Billerhen - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:08:16 EST hwbZvUc3 No.57545 Reply >>57490>>57490>Why did all the poor blokes not shoot their warmongering superiors in WW1?because they would be arrested by MP's for murder and get executed>killing your officer wouldn't be very obvious in the chaos of war? And then the officer above him would appoint a new officer, basically if you did this then both sides would want to kill you. What I think you should have said was why didn't MORE people dessert, which happened like mad in the AH and Russian armies but every army had a problem with it. so this was not a well thought through line of reasoning
>> Phyllis Buzzfuck - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 02:35:06 EST ZVxEwvHV No.57524 Reply Europe is much smaller than asia, and flanders was pretty treeless through most of the war, so no isolated jungle patrols where you can frag the Loyola U ROTC weenie in abstract self-defense
>> Jessica Tandy needs candy !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:59:35 EST dk2vfwv1 No.57544 Reply Hind sight is 20/20, trench warfare was the solution to a problem (the problem that mobile warfare in the first few months of the war was unsustainably bloody) however digging trenches created new problems. And yes there were dumb generals but there were also many generals that created solutions to the problems of trench warfare (like the tank, coordinated artillery fire, and small unit tactics to name a few) so it's easy to blame dumb stuffy generals for trench warfare but in reality there were forces at play that forced the hands of generals and nations.Read up on the siege of Petersburg in the American Civil War and Sipon Kop in the 2nd Boer War.
>> Eugene Billerhen - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:08:16 EST hwbZvUc3 No.57545 Reply >>57490>>57490>Why did all the poor blokes not shoot their warmongering superiors in WW1?because they would be arrested by MP's for murder and get executed>killing your officer wouldn't be very obvious in the chaos of war? And then the officer above him would appoint a new officer, basically if you did this then both sides would want to kill you. What I think you should have said was why didn't MORE people dessert, which happened like mad in the AH and Russian armies but every army had a problem with it. so this was not a well thought through line of reasoning
Civilization of the Month View Thread Reply Hide Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 16:21:24 EST 7moSACzs No.57339 File: 1515532884456.jpg -(3228964B / 3.08MB, 3480x2656) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. In preparation for going back to school (and to hopefully bolster some discussion on this nice but very slow board) I'm gonna try this thread format. Each month, assuming I don't get lazy and drop this, I'm gonna post a big thing about a civilization, culture, or political entity. I'm gonna try to avoid obvious topics like Egypt or Rome, and focus on stuff people may not have heard of as much. In an ideal world you guys will join in and discuss the peoples and cultures herein, suggest new topics, or correct me if and when I mess up. That said, it seems fair to me to start with the beginning. This month's Civilization of the Month is Sumer. "Sumer" as a name comes to us from their Akkadian neighbors/occasional rulers, who called them Shumer. The Sumerians called themselves "ùĝ saĝ gíg ga", meaning "The black-headed people", a name we learned from the cuneiform tablets they wrote on. Unfortunately, we do not actually know what "Shumer" means; when looking (or, more appropriately, glancing) into it, I pretty much just found academic flamewars. The Sumerian people seem to have been in the area of modern day Iraq since at least 6500 BC, and continued to do their thing until the second millennium BC. Then they were conquered by the Amorites, who in turn were conquered by the Assyrians. However, their cultural impression was lasting, and Assyrian kings would continue to refer to themselves as "King of Sumer and Akkad" for centuries. The earliest archaeological site we have for the area is called Tell el-'Oueli. A tell, from Arabic tal, meaning hill or mound, is a giant pile of trash from generations of people living on the same spot. This site consists of two thousand years of the Ubaid period (6500-4000 BC), and is characterized by the style of clay painted pottery, unwalled villages of mud brick houses, and tools (mainly sickles) made of clay usually, though occasionally stone or metal. During this time irrigated agriculture, use of the plow, and sailing were developed, and an egalitarian society became more stratified as a noble chieftain class developed as communities became much bigger than your standard village. Eventually, pottery became produced more efficiently and trade flourished along the rivers of the Fertile Crescent, which led to the rise of the first cities. This period, named Uruk for the biggest one of the time, lasted from 4100 BC to 2900 BC. Uruk was created when two Ubaid villages grew into each other, and during this period became the most populated city in the world, surpassing 50k inhabitants. Cities during this period were centered around a large temple (two in Uruk's case, at the centers of the towns it grew from) and were ruled theocratically by priest-kings (called ensi). Slavery begins to see heavy use. In 2900 BC we enter the early dynastic period (2900-2270 BC). Around the beginning of this time the wall around Uruk was built, spanning 9km. We see a split from the priest-king system to a relatively secular ruler (still claiming divine right to rule, as kings will), and a council of elder priests. In 2700 writing began to form out of pictographs, and things like clay tokens were used in accounting. At first, cities were separate entities that can't really project force terribly far. However, any towns around a big city were obviously going to have a hard time, and we actually see towns outright disappear as the cities absorb their populations. Around 2500 BC a king from the city of Lagash named Eannatum conquered the area we now think of as Sumer, creating one of the first empires. However, it fell apart after his death. Two centuries later a king named Lugal-zage-si did something similar, and reigned for fifteen years or so until the Akkadians conquered Sumer. In 2270, the son of a cup-bearer for a Sumerian king (a social position of high standing and trust, I'll note) named Sargon rose to power, conquered Lugal-zage-di's realm, and led him to his hometown of Akkad in stocks. He went on to carve out an empire stretching nearly from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean. His empire would last until 2147, when a nomadic tribe called the Guti overran the place to a degree that the infrastructure couldn't handle. The empire collapsed, and minor city-states made their return. From Lagash again rose a Sumerian king, Gudea, who enjoyed a small renaissance of sorts after he reconq… Comment too long. Click here to view the full text. 44 posts and 15 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Priscilla Clandlenun - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:21:55 EST iTUH5a8Q No.57512 Reply >>57341>In trying to add some framing to 6000 years of Mesopotamian history, I traced the religious evolutionMore than a few do not realize the extent to which Mesopotamia is distinct in religious demographics until now. Two whole religions, the Yezidis and Mandeans, have a large majority located in Mesopotamia. The Church of the East, or Nestorian Christians, have been based there since the 5th century and had churches from Cyprus to China in the Middle Ages. There are 'Jewish Kurds' who, along with the neighboring Christians, speak (or spoke) the language of Assyria from the time of Ashurbanipal. Three of these have had some presence in Iran/Persia, but not the Yezidis whose traditional areas seem to all be in Mesopotamia. I've read that the original pagans were still in existence during the Arab empires. And there are particularly unorthodox Muslim "Alevis" in the northern periphery. >> Martin Dashmotch - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:11:59 EST stKj2uKJ No.57518 Reply 1536178319123.jpg -(32562B / 31.80KB, 629x638) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57473Seriously the greatest posts this board will ever know. >> Shitting Fosslepedge - Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:00:03 EST /JUDCgXP No.57535 Reply 1538344803037.jpg -(49010B / 47.86KB, 468x295) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57339Very cool OP. Fellow History Major here too.
>> Priscilla Clandlenun - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:21:55 EST iTUH5a8Q No.57512 Reply >>57341>In trying to add some framing to 6000 years of Mesopotamian history, I traced the religious evolutionMore than a few do not realize the extent to which Mesopotamia is distinct in religious demographics until now. Two whole religions, the Yezidis and Mandeans, have a large majority located in Mesopotamia. The Church of the East, or Nestorian Christians, have been based there since the 5th century and had churches from Cyprus to China in the Middle Ages. There are 'Jewish Kurds' who, along with the neighboring Christians, speak (or spoke) the language of Assyria from the time of Ashurbanipal. Three of these have had some presence in Iran/Persia, but not the Yezidis whose traditional areas seem to all be in Mesopotamia. I've read that the original pagans were still in existence during the Arab empires. And there are particularly unorthodox Muslim "Alevis" in the northern periphery.
>> Martin Dashmotch - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:11:59 EST stKj2uKJ No.57518 Reply 1536178319123.jpg -(32562B / 31.80KB, 629x638) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57473Seriously the greatest posts this board will ever know.
>> Shitting Fosslepedge - Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:00:03 EST /JUDCgXP No.57535 Reply 1538344803037.jpg -(49010B / 47.86KB, 468x295) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57339Very cool OP. Fellow History Major here too.
The 'war on terrorism' View Thread Reply Hide Albert Hullypet - Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:07:30 EST Ytx8gGHk No.57520 File: 1537056450830.png -(517015B / 504.90KB, 705x599) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How would we be able to 'end' the war on terrorism?The romans couldn't defeat the barbarians.Now today terrorists are invading europe and trying to enforce Sharia law while painting themselves as helpless victims. Is this the new method of modern warfare? They are invading from the inside by the looks of it it appears they're doing it right too.how would we finally win this so called war on terror. >> Martin Pommlefield - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 16:01:23 EST I0gh1mqC No.57521 Reply 1537128083503.jpg -(104787B / 102.33KB, 960x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. The war on terrorism is an effort by the United States and close western allies to justify a global military presence, especially in key strategic regions like central Asia and the seaways around Arabia. The primary purpose of this is geostratgic rivalry with the other potential Eurasian superpowers in Russia and China, as well as a parallel domestic program of fear mongering. Contrast and compare with the red scare and the cold war policy of containment.It ends when the Americans lose the will or means to keep it up, but there is no actual enemy to defeat. >> Albert Hullypet - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:55:52 EST Ytx8gGHk No.57522 Reply >>57521Wouldn't they use the CIA for that? >> Albert Suttingpig - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:37:40 EST GnLfL9+w No.57525 Reply Pls go back to your fox news forum.
>> Martin Pommlefield - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 16:01:23 EST I0gh1mqC No.57521 Reply 1537128083503.jpg -(104787B / 102.33KB, 960x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. The war on terrorism is an effort by the United States and close western allies to justify a global military presence, especially in key strategic regions like central Asia and the seaways around Arabia. The primary purpose of this is geostratgic rivalry with the other potential Eurasian superpowers in Russia and China, as well as a parallel domestic program of fear mongering. Contrast and compare with the red scare and the cold war policy of containment.It ends when the Americans lose the will or means to keep it up, but there is no actual enemy to defeat.
>> Albert Hullypet - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:55:52 EST Ytx8gGHk No.57522 Reply >>57521Wouldn't they use the CIA for that?
>> Albert Suttingpig - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:37:40 EST GnLfL9+w No.57525 Reply Pls go back to your fox news forum.
Shays' Rebellion View Thread Reply Hide Shit Fishdock - Wed, 29 Aug 2018 02:10:52 EST M0xFym5C No.57514 File: 1535523052209.jpg -(28977B / 28.30KB, 250x289) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Daniel Shays, Eli Parsons and Job Shattuck did nothing wrong and Samuel Adams should have been hung from a tree. >> Eugene Horringpudging - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 10:49:23 EST ifP+KLNs No.57517 Reply explain your position better then i will respond
>> Eugene Horringpudging - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 10:49:23 EST ifP+KLNs No.57517 Reply explain your position better then i will respond
help please View Thread Reply Hide Charles Dallymere - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 13:04:25 EST 0qSO+rVA No.57461 File: 1528823065924.jpg -(26588B / 25.96KB, 450x506) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I would like to be thoroughly informed on contemporary life in (South) Korea.Can anyone recommend me books on Korean history from around 1945 onwards, as well as anything more to do with what it's like to live there and be Korean since Industrialisation started, generational differences and such? I don't know where to begin.I went to my local library and all they had on Korea were two Lonely Planet guides and three war memoirs written by our troops who were involved in the Korean War. >> Polly Bommleteg - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:45:45 EST 0qSO+rVA No.57463 Reply I found a load of contemporary Korean ethnographies but they start at $40 and go up to $300 or so.Thankfully books about North Korea are plentiful and cheap. >> Hamilton Dupperfedge - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:16:45 EST yWuxaTBb No.57464 Reply >>57463Maybe OP should just go live in the North for a while. Maybe he can study there. >> Lived in Korea - Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:10:42 EST zaHsBkia No.57515 Reply 1535919042809.jpg -(112880B / 110.23KB, 800x562) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I lived in Korea for all of 2013 teaching English. Most of the books I read concerned Joseon dynasty happenings (King Sejong's rule and reforms, the Imjin Waeran) but one wonderful, excellent source for modern Korean history is the following blog:http://populargusts.blogspot.com/The author, a Canadian PhD in history (IIRC), covers all sorts of events, cultural shifts, and tensions from the late nineteenth century to the present day. There are multiple exhaustively researched posts on:-the Olympics in 1988 (S. Korea's "we're rich now" coming-out party)-1970's rule by Park Chung-hee, who jump-started the economy, criminalized marijuana (a traditional medicine for ~2000 years), and gang-pressed any hippies into suicide missions to the North-the Gwangju pro-democracy uprisings and their brutal suppression-the wealth gap and what "success" means in Korea today-the Japanese occupation (torture, land reform, collaborators, legacy)-the role of Christianity from early missions to present day (Korea is I think the most Christian country in all East Asia - 1/3 of the population or so?)-anti-foreigner sentiment (the guy does kind of have a persecution complex)-Korean literature from Yi Sang (1900's) to the present-Korean film in cultural context (here's a good one I remember him linking to, about getting by in an increasingly money-oriented and less traditional society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S3srD7qx9c )&c. He's just fucking great. Follow up on what he mentions (books, films, music) and you will know a great deal about Korea.Also, the Royal Asiatic Society's Korea branch has their own little printing press and all of their books are awesome. Check out these lists of titles and see if anything strikes your fancy: http://www.raskb.com/node/7Also this Atlantic article I think is pretty smart: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/gangnam-style-dissected-the-subversive-message-within-south-koreas-music-video-sensation/261462/
>> Polly Bommleteg - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:45:45 EST 0qSO+rVA No.57463 Reply I found a load of contemporary Korean ethnographies but they start at $40 and go up to $300 or so.Thankfully books about North Korea are plentiful and cheap.
>> Hamilton Dupperfedge - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:16:45 EST yWuxaTBb No.57464 Reply >>57463Maybe OP should just go live in the North for a while. Maybe he can study there.
>> Lived in Korea - Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:10:42 EST zaHsBkia No.57515 Reply 1535919042809.jpg -(112880B / 110.23KB, 800x562) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I lived in Korea for all of 2013 teaching English. Most of the books I read concerned Joseon dynasty happenings (King Sejong's rule and reforms, the Imjin Waeran) but one wonderful, excellent source for modern Korean history is the following blog:http://populargusts.blogspot.com/The author, a Canadian PhD in history (IIRC), covers all sorts of events, cultural shifts, and tensions from the late nineteenth century to the present day. There are multiple exhaustively researched posts on:-the Olympics in 1988 (S. Korea's "we're rich now" coming-out party)-1970's rule by Park Chung-hee, who jump-started the economy, criminalized marijuana (a traditional medicine for ~2000 years), and gang-pressed any hippies into suicide missions to the North-the Gwangju pro-democracy uprisings and their brutal suppression-the wealth gap and what "success" means in Korea today-the Japanese occupation (torture, land reform, collaborators, legacy)-the role of Christianity from early missions to present day (Korea is I think the most Christian country in all East Asia - 1/3 of the population or so?)-anti-foreigner sentiment (the guy does kind of have a persecution complex)-Korean literature from Yi Sang (1900's) to the present-Korean film in cultural context (here's a good one I remember him linking to, about getting by in an increasingly money-oriented and less traditional society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S3srD7qx9c )&c. He's just fucking great. Follow up on what he mentions (books, films, music) and you will know a great deal about Korea.Also, the Royal Asiatic Society's Korea branch has their own little printing press and all of their books are awesome. Check out these lists of titles and see if anything strikes your fancy: http://www.raskb.com/node/7Also this Atlantic article I think is pretty smart: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/gangnam-style-dissected-the-subversive-message-within-south-koreas-music-video-sensation/261462/
Why did America even give a shit View Thread Reply Hide Phineas Fuckingstone - Wed, 20 Apr 2016 00:46:22 EST NN93ashj No.56644 File: 1461127582138.jpg -(172215B / 168.18KB, 1023x1386) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Like what was the point of the cold war? Why was someone else following a different economic system... a threat? 37 posts and 8 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Lydia Crushwill - Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:51:05 EST LOqox0NU No.57510 Reply >>56646So the real fight wasn't ideology but geo political dominance? >> Frederick Widgebun - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:47:24 EST ifP+KLNs No.57511 Reply >>57510correct >> Wesley Bunspear - Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:04:10 EST xAfK7Kl5 No.57513 Reply >>57510yes. Capitalist powers even supported Communists when it fit their aims, even at the very start of the Soviet Union. For example, Lenin was chauffeured into Russia by the German Reich. Russia in turn used Western leftists as useful idiots to further its own aims. Same as they do today with Right-wing groups like Jobbik. And then for a different type of imperialism, you had the element of chauvinistic Jews who saw Soviet-style socialism and mass terror as a way to gain the upper hand over the Goyim, so you got seemingly paradoxical stuff like rich Jewish bankers such as Olof Aschberg, Jacob Schiff and Karl Radek financing the Bolsheviks. Winston Churchill, among others, wrote about this back in the 20's: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
>> Lydia Crushwill - Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:51:05 EST LOqox0NU No.57510 Reply >>56646So the real fight wasn't ideology but geo political dominance?
>> Wesley Bunspear - Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:04:10 EST xAfK7Kl5 No.57513 Reply >>57510yes. Capitalist powers even supported Communists when it fit their aims, even at the very start of the Soviet Union. For example, Lenin was chauffeured into Russia by the German Reich. Russia in turn used Western leftists as useful idiots to further its own aims. Same as they do today with Right-wing groups like Jobbik. And then for a different type of imperialism, you had the element of chauvinistic Jews who saw Soviet-style socialism and mass terror as a way to gain the upper hand over the Goyim, so you got seemingly paradoxical stuff like rich Jewish bankers such as Olof Aschberg, Jacob Schiff and Karl Radek financing the Bolsheviks. Winston Churchill, among others, wrote about this back in the 20's: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Vikings View Thread Reply Hide Shit Suzzlenick - Thu, 07 Jan 2016 11:17:16 EST yEdEzxgG No.56393 File: 1452183436802.jpg -(34473B / 33.67KB, 400x297) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What are some good resources on the Old Norsemen, or Vikings? Namely I want to learn about their patterns on settlement around Europe. They could have set up a maritime Empire similar to what the British had in later centuries so it seems, so why was that never realized? They conquered enough land to start it. 18 posts and 7 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:56:30 EST RBbEukYB No.57477 Reply 1531518990490.jpg -(1234662B / 1.18MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57475weak bait >> Polly Minkinpan - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:00:33 EST CK1mjPuU No.57481 Reply >>57477Thats was probably a Finnish boat that Swedish historical revisionists decided to take credit for. >> Barnaby Figglefuck - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 22:19:09 EST siJ9imet No.57489 Reply 1532139549724.jpg -(131831B / 128.74KB, 600x726) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57477 User is currently banned from all boards
>> Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:56:30 EST RBbEukYB No.57477 Reply 1531518990490.jpg -(1234662B / 1.18MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57475weak bait
>> Polly Minkinpan - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:00:33 EST CK1mjPuU No.57481 Reply >>57477Thats was probably a Finnish boat that Swedish historical revisionists decided to take credit for.
>> Barnaby Figglefuck - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 22:19:09 EST siJ9imet No.57489 Reply 1532139549724.jpg -(131831B / 128.74KB, 600x726) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57477 User is currently banned from all boards
russia View Thread Reply Hide Eugene Wusslewill - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:51:44 EST jDhu60RY No.57488 File: 1532134304825.jpg -(9744B / 9.52KB, 268x284) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >Ivan the Terrible>1530 to 1584while west europeans underwent the renaissance and painted realistic art russia was literally still giving their kings epithets like were they legends and only made one painting of their first tsar that is literally middle age tier
Critique my essay View Thread Reply Hide Phyllis Clayshit - Thu, 31 May 2018 14:07:58 EST lWvxu3m1 No.57457 File: 1527790078561.png -(54095B / 52.83KB, 793x756) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. opinions? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1erY25ma6CjpmXdIsBVX-UIosKJaEon5zS_MyIkuR5Z4/edit?usp=sharing >> Augustus Fuckingstone - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 10:42:32 EST ReOcdgba No.57458 Reply Its bad
Histories biggest Chad View Thread Reply Hide Isabella Blunnergold - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 21:26:22 EST 2kVQJUZ4 No.57414 File: 1522459582323.png -(71555B / 69.88KB, 220x166) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. My vote goes to Mark Antony 3 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Ebenezer Sillerhock - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 01:03:53 EST zPMk1XQv No.57425 Reply 1522731833942.jpg -(105324B / 102.86KB, 488x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57424Yeah, I got really sad when I tried to pick up a picture of him for my post and all duckduckgo gave me was excerpts from the manga. I imagine Medieval poetic epic fans feel the same when they look up Astolfo and drown in lewd femboi goodness.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astolfo >> Hedda Dreddlewag - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:21:56 EST 2kVQJUZ4 No.57426 Reply 1522772516232.png -(683658B / 667.63KB, 1080x791) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57425Oh my god I'm so fucking sick of Astolfo >> Angus Boblingridge - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:30:10 EST zPMk1XQv No.57429 Reply 1522841410296.jpg -(38212B / 37.32KB, 600x466) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57426Yeah he kind of has become the meme husbando of choice for fashionable bisexuals and other irritants. I like him, he's so very cute and bubbly, but not unlike with Heath Ledger's Joker back in the day, I have to keep a wide berth so I don't get swallowed up by the cancer.Back on topic, though, I'd also like to nominate Ted Bundy.>grows up in a home with an abusive, racist grandfather and a grandmother that gets shock treatment monthly or so for depression>is told that his mother is his sister, figures out that this is bullshit on his own>ends up rich and successful anyways>some girl breaks his heart>he gets a new girlfriend, cheats on her with the old one, winning back the old gf's love just so he can then break her heart and laugh about it>can get any woman he wants>abducts, rapes, tortures, and murders them anyways>in jail as a murder suspect>fucking escapes, could have laid low and gone free, just goes around murdering people anyways>final murder trial is going well, he might just get off scot-free somehow>shithouses the whole deal anyways>about to get executed>blames it all on true crime comics and porn just to piss everyone off one last timeTruly an inspirational underdog story for the modern age.
>> Ebenezer Sillerhock - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 01:03:53 EST zPMk1XQv No.57425 Reply 1522731833942.jpg -(105324B / 102.86KB, 488x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57424Yeah, I got really sad when I tried to pick up a picture of him for my post and all duckduckgo gave me was excerpts from the manga. I imagine Medieval poetic epic fans feel the same when they look up Astolfo and drown in lewd femboi goodness.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astolfo
>> Hedda Dreddlewag - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:21:56 EST 2kVQJUZ4 No.57426 Reply 1522772516232.png -(683658B / 667.63KB, 1080x791) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57425Oh my god I'm so fucking sick of Astolfo
>> Angus Boblingridge - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:30:10 EST zPMk1XQv No.57429 Reply 1522841410296.jpg -(38212B / 37.32KB, 600x466) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57426Yeah he kind of has become the meme husbando of choice for fashionable bisexuals and other irritants. I like him, he's so very cute and bubbly, but not unlike with Heath Ledger's Joker back in the day, I have to keep a wide berth so I don't get swallowed up by the cancer.Back on topic, though, I'd also like to nominate Ted Bundy.>grows up in a home with an abusive, racist grandfather and a grandmother that gets shock treatment monthly or so for depression>is told that his mother is his sister, figures out that this is bullshit on his own>ends up rich and successful anyways>some girl breaks his heart>he gets a new girlfriend, cheats on her with the old one, winning back the old gf's love just so he can then break her heart and laugh about it>can get any woman he wants>abducts, rapes, tortures, and murders them anyways>in jail as a murder suspect>fucking escapes, could have laid low and gone free, just goes around murdering people anyways>final murder trial is going well, he might just get off scot-free somehow>shithouses the whole deal anyways>about to get executed>blames it all on true crime comics and porn just to piss everyone off one last timeTruly an inspirational underdog story for the modern age.
ISIS Status Update View Thread Reply Hide Vulvarin Trembling - Thu, 14 May 2015 09:42:52 EST q6QF5w+I No.55391 File: 1431610972442.png -(687368B / 671.26KB, 763x512) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Even as a pacifist I hope ISIS gets wiped off the earth.Let all Bullets and Bombs rain down on these deranged religiots.What's the status actually?Are they still in control of large areas?How much is left of them?When will they be defeated? 154 posts and 34 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Edwin Doggleridge - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:07:04 EST dUHNnmI0 No.57356 Reply >>57353I just had a realization that the Kurds are basically the new Poles. Turkey:Syria:US::UK:Russia:Germany >> Priscilla Murdbanks - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:49:36 EST sYpKvVF0 No.57404 Reply Looks like its gone South for the Kurds in Afrin with the Turkish army offensive. Meanwhile ISIS have re-emerged in Iraq and have been in conflict with the Kurds in recent weeks. >> Phyllis Brookville - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:30:47 EST /mZfItc6 No.57405 Reply >>57404yeah, poor kurd-bros got fucked in afrin by erdoganistan
>> Edwin Doggleridge - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:07:04 EST dUHNnmI0 No.57356 Reply >>57353I just had a realization that the Kurds are basically the new Poles. Turkey:Syria:US::UK:Russia:Germany
>> Priscilla Murdbanks - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:49:36 EST sYpKvVF0 No.57404 Reply Looks like its gone South for the Kurds in Afrin with the Turkish army offensive. Meanwhile ISIS have re-emerged in Iraq and have been in conflict with the Kurds in recent weeks.
>> Phyllis Brookville - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:30:47 EST /mZfItc6 No.57405 Reply >>57404yeah, poor kurd-bros got fucked in afrin by erdoganistan
The Oil Industry View Thread Reply Hide Frederick Blaggleham - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:40:04 EST 8P+TfceH No.57305 File: 1511124004231.jpg -(93473B / 91.28KB, 912x513) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Easily one of the most influential shadow histories in global economics. Why isn't it talked about more in schools?Wars have been decided and aimed at the acquiring this black gold. /his/ Discord for General History - Just started back up again, join if interestedhttps://discord.gg/KNzz9Wk >> Ernest Sublingchork - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:33:50 EST ZDNGCe0G No.57381 Reply Daniel Yergin, The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money, and Powerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1stQW6i1KoPerhaps a good starting point? I enjoyed the documentary series. >> Nicholas Tillingford - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:55:30 EST QXkOojeI No.57382 Reply most people are under the illusion of nationalism, with a hint of tribemind us vs. them, good guys vs. bad guys thinking >> Caroline Murdson - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:49:12 EST gGfsSn/q No.57402 Reply >>57305It's not taught in schools because then there's a whole other list of things that should be talked about, like the way the middle East was mapped and forced to comply to those borders, and how THAT was based on the division of Africa and the ability to exploit other resources. And how THAT was allowable because of the leadership that was in charge of WWI and WWII, our deified governmental leaders who were, at best, period socially liberal and radically so but today were still astoundingly openly racist. And THEN you have to talk about...See how this is going? This doesn't happen because, no snit, there's a school that no limits historybeing truly taught in public schools, and showing people for their entire persons and not just the neat stuff you can talk about at the soda shop with B&V. I mean, it makes for boring discourse ALLL. THROUGH. LIFE. But it also means others can... feel better? I dunno.
>> Ernest Sublingchork - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:33:50 EST ZDNGCe0G No.57381 Reply Daniel Yergin, The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money, and Powerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1stQW6i1KoPerhaps a good starting point? I enjoyed the documentary series.
>> Nicholas Tillingford - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:55:30 EST QXkOojeI No.57382 Reply most people are under the illusion of nationalism, with a hint of tribemind us vs. them, good guys vs. bad guys thinking
>> Caroline Murdson - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:49:12 EST gGfsSn/q No.57402 Reply >>57305It's not taught in schools because then there's a whole other list of things that should be talked about, like the way the middle East was mapped and forced to comply to those borders, and how THAT was based on the division of Africa and the ability to exploit other resources. And how THAT was allowable because of the leadership that was in charge of WWI and WWII, our deified governmental leaders who were, at best, period socially liberal and radically so but today were still astoundingly openly racist. And THEN you have to talk about...See how this is going? This doesn't happen because, no snit, there's a school that no limits historybeing truly taught in public schools, and showing people for their entire persons and not just the neat stuff you can talk about at the soda shop with B&V. I mean, it makes for boring discourse ALLL. THROUGH. LIFE. But it also means others can... feel better? I dunno.
Was Jesus an Iron Age cult leader? View Thread Reply Hide Doris Fuckingson - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:42:44 EST 6FQAmMFX No.57218 File: 1499978564344.jpg -(239294B / 233.69KB, 1280x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hi all (Before I start quick disclosure: I am an atheist but I am here to have an honest discussion and am not here to troll and offend anyone.)When i read the account of Christ and I read it as a myth that was meant to be examined as testimony I imagine that instead of reading a book Luke, John, or Matthew are at the bar just telling me a story about some guy they knew. This is what a testimony is after all: a story someone tells you. If a book is written in the format of a testimony thus you must not necessarily believe the narrator at all times. Sometimes you can assume that he is lying or exaggerating things just like a stranger telling you a story at a bar would. (Sorry for the long intro but it will help the rest of this make sense... hopefully) So following this logic and using its lens to examine the bible I make 3 assumptions as I read the accounts of Christs life.1 - Jesus is not divine and has no special powers. (ex. I've never seen a dude walk on water why would I believe a testimony that says someone saw someone do it somewhere.)2 - No one else has special powers everyone is a human limited by the knowledge and culture of Iron Age Middle East.3 - Jesus is corruptible just like every other person.Now with all this in play as I go through the bible I hear a story about a Iron age Rabbi that ran an organization with lots of hall marks of a cult like abandoning families to follow a holy teacher, giving up wealth, and dedicating one entire life soul, body, and mind to the holy teacher. Further this holy teacher showed them a bunch of cheap parlor tricks. The holy teacher was so narcissistic and egocentric that anytime anything other then him comes up he tells you how unimportant it is compared to him and tells you to give up everything just to worship him and serve him.Further he is reckless and his delusions of grandeur like thinking he is himself a god as well as his corrupt nature like soaking himself in a years wages worth of perfume in one sitting in front of a bunch of people who gave everything up to obey and follow him. The picture is clear. I do not see a wise and loving guy. I see Charles Manson or Marshall Applewhite.Again, I am not here trying to offend anyone, I am just trying to honestly explain my thought process. Now that I explained my thoughts, what I really want to ask is what are yours? How do you read the bible? How do you see Jesus? What do you think were his motivations and aspirations? And most importantly why do you believe these things.My analysis lead me to make this documentary about the life of Christ where I go into detail and develop my thesis from birth to crucifixion. If you care for such a thing here is a link.https://www.youtube.com...(I will warn because it is based on the biblical account of the life of Jesus there is explicit content that is violent and sexual in nature in some parts of his life's account.) 15 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Hannah Hecklewell - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:15:23 EST tzC97MoX No.57391 Reply >>57218i think OP you're being slightly harsh on jesus here, not way off, just reading some sinister intentions in to what may have been genuine philosophy, misguided or not.first of all Jesus may not have ever claimed to be capable of miracles. For instance take the fish and bread that fed too many people, maybe in real life, Jesus convinced a large number of very hungry people to share a relatively small amount of food and everybody ended up with some. That might constitute a "miracle" in some sense, it would be the kind of thing that would make you respect the charisma and authority of somebody, without it being actually supernatural. And then 5-8 generations and 100-200 years later when the gospels were written (just ball parking here) the story had morphed into full miraclespretty much all of the miracles i could find in the gospels could be explained in similar ways, turning the water to wine could be done in a similar way to the fish and bread, maybe he was just good at planning parties in an era where most parties ended up with physical altercations over the wine. as for raising people from the dead i dont recall him ever raising anybody who wasnt recently deceased and ancient medical knowledge wasnt that good, maybe some poor souls werent really dead and had a brief bit of awareness when jesus happened to come through and bless themso i dont think the miracles thing is necessarily evidence that Jesus was deceiving his disciples.as far as asking that his followers abandon family and possessions, there's no doubt this is a hallmark of cult behavior, however, i think there's a difference between deceptive narcisissitic cults and genuinely deluded cults, like the difference between charles manson's cult and mormonismmaybe jesus really truly believed his followers would achieve the highest truth, morality, etc by giving up everything and following him, he would not be even remotely alone in thinking this way, its basically the story of like every ancient buddhist/eastern spiritual leaderthis applies to the fact that he focuses everything on himself too, if he really thought he had discovered the secrets of the universe, then it would only be right for everybody to drop everything and listen to him, and maybe he really thought there was no better use for a ton of expensive perfume than to make some cryptic philophical point (i actually dont remember what the perfume thing was about)so to summarize, i definitely agree he was a cult leader, but im not so sure he was a manipulative guy, when his story is not so different from tons of other earnest spiritual leaders throughout history >> Edwin Tootbury - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 12:34:56 EST PmmRJlWL No.57411 Reply >>57388If true, it'd be pointless to keep them so secret. Nobody cares about dualism in 2018. There's plenty enough Gnostic texts out there to piece together what they believed. All they'd be doing is hindering the progress of archaeology. Would you not want to provide evidence of the success of your past conquests? No, I suspect the texts in that library are far more 'foundational' than heretical. >> Walter Hillerhood - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:05:55 EST IlyKIasb No.57430 Reply OP's observation is neither new nor particularly unique btw. >>57250As Simon bar Kokhba, but he is not remembered like Jesus was because his followers blew their load fast. It is better to say that Hellenistic age Judaism fostered both messianic and proselytic tendencies that manifested in a diverse set of cultic beliefs based on individual spiritual leaders, of which Christianity was one and the birth of Gnosticism is likely tied into this process where regional communities could have significant sway over scriptural interpretation. In other words, Judaism by the 1st century AD was rapidly diversifying as a congregation far away from Herod's Temple. This was the beginning of the diaspora, and in the beginning, it was fueled by converts. Modern Judaism discourages converts, but the Maccabees readily encouraged the conversion of gentiles to ward off centuries of depopulation in Judea proper. There were dense populations in Alexandria and Cyprus, Greece, Syria, and Rome itself. They were not active in banking, which was predominately dominated by established Latin or Greek banking charters that had evolved from the temple lending system of Archaic times. In this context, much like you can trace evolutionary ancestors back by comparing structural similarities, the birth of Christianity becomes quite clear.
>> Hannah Hecklewell - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:15:23 EST tzC97MoX No.57391 Reply >>57218i think OP you're being slightly harsh on jesus here, not way off, just reading some sinister intentions in to what may have been genuine philosophy, misguided or not.first of all Jesus may not have ever claimed to be capable of miracles. For instance take the fish and bread that fed too many people, maybe in real life, Jesus convinced a large number of very hungry people to share a relatively small amount of food and everybody ended up with some. That might constitute a "miracle" in some sense, it would be the kind of thing that would make you respect the charisma and authority of somebody, without it being actually supernatural. And then 5-8 generations and 100-200 years later when the gospels were written (just ball parking here) the story had morphed into full miraclespretty much all of the miracles i could find in the gospels could be explained in similar ways, turning the water to wine could be done in a similar way to the fish and bread, maybe he was just good at planning parties in an era where most parties ended up with physical altercations over the wine. as for raising people from the dead i dont recall him ever raising anybody who wasnt recently deceased and ancient medical knowledge wasnt that good, maybe some poor souls werent really dead and had a brief bit of awareness when jesus happened to come through and bless themso i dont think the miracles thing is necessarily evidence that Jesus was deceiving his disciples.as far as asking that his followers abandon family and possessions, there's no doubt this is a hallmark of cult behavior, however, i think there's a difference between deceptive narcisissitic cults and genuinely deluded cults, like the difference between charles manson's cult and mormonismmaybe jesus really truly believed his followers would achieve the highest truth, morality, etc by giving up everything and following him, he would not be even remotely alone in thinking this way, its basically the story of like every ancient buddhist/eastern spiritual leaderthis applies to the fact that he focuses everything on himself too, if he really thought he had discovered the secrets of the universe, then it would only be right for everybody to drop everything and listen to him, and maybe he really thought there was no better use for a ton of expensive perfume than to make some cryptic philophical point (i actually dont remember what the perfume thing was about)so to summarize, i definitely agree he was a cult leader, but im not so sure he was a manipulative guy, when his story is not so different from tons of other earnest spiritual leaders throughout history
>> Edwin Tootbury - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 12:34:56 EST PmmRJlWL No.57411 Reply >>57388If true, it'd be pointless to keep them so secret. Nobody cares about dualism in 2018. There's plenty enough Gnostic texts out there to piece together what they believed. All they'd be doing is hindering the progress of archaeology. Would you not want to provide evidence of the success of your past conquests? No, I suspect the texts in that library are far more 'foundational' than heretical.
>> Walter Hillerhood - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:05:55 EST IlyKIasb No.57430 Reply OP's observation is neither new nor particularly unique btw. >>57250As Simon bar Kokhba, but he is not remembered like Jesus was because his followers blew their load fast. It is better to say that Hellenistic age Judaism fostered both messianic and proselytic tendencies that manifested in a diverse set of cultic beliefs based on individual spiritual leaders, of which Christianity was one and the birth of Gnosticism is likely tied into this process where regional communities could have significant sway over scriptural interpretation. In other words, Judaism by the 1st century AD was rapidly diversifying as a congregation far away from Herod's Temple. This was the beginning of the diaspora, and in the beginning, it was fueled by converts. Modern Judaism discourages converts, but the Maccabees readily encouraged the conversion of gentiles to ward off centuries of depopulation in Judea proper. There were dense populations in Alexandria and Cyprus, Greece, Syria, and Rome itself. They were not active in banking, which was predominately dominated by established Latin or Greek banking charters that had evolved from the temple lending system of Archaic times. In this context, much like you can trace evolutionary ancestors back by comparing structural similarities, the birth of Christianity becomes quite clear.
Medieval Japan View Thread Reply Hide Alice Nangermure - Tue, 28 Oct 2014 02:55:10 EST GZTV3220 No.54171 File: 1414479310402.png -(74468B / 72.72KB, 273x240) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Japan's history has always interested me, in fact feudal Japan or Sengoku Japan is what got me into history in the first place. I know it's over played and anime and weaboos have kinda ruined Japan's reputation. But, aside from all that, japan in the Sengoku era was extremely bloody and treacherous. Wars were constantly being fought, enemy armies just a few miles away from you being on such a small island. It was quite war torn. It was much like medieval Europe, just more violent compared to how small the country is and how many battles and wars were fought in such a short time. Their culture and warrior class was extremely sophisticated and unique. It might not be the most powerful or most influential in the world, but the civilizations before the western ideology conquered wer extremely unique and quute different than the rest of the world. You could say that before the west spread Iit's influence, Japan was a pretty mysterious place. It's quite fun to study if you ask me.Inb4: I'm not some weaboo 10 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Matilda Goodhood - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 00:17:29 EST b0Z6XbnQ No.56091 Reply >>56082Should really place the european comparison a good 200years back though. The 1400s were the end of that age of europe and the hailing of the renaissance. Japan (and east asia in general) fell a bit behind in this period, due to political incompetence. >> Alice Blondlechone - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 19:05:41 EST MRc/EBe+ No.56094 Reply >>56091Political competence or constant warfare? >> A Wizard - Mon, 07 Sep 2015 14:43:14 EST b0Z6XbnQ No.56104 Reply >>56094They do go hand in hand I find, lol.
>> Matilda Goodhood - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 00:17:29 EST b0Z6XbnQ No.56091 Reply >>56082Should really place the european comparison a good 200years back though. The 1400s were the end of that age of europe and the hailing of the renaissance. Japan (and east asia in general) fell a bit behind in this period, due to political incompetence.
>> Alice Blondlechone - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 19:05:41 EST MRc/EBe+ No.56094 Reply >>56091Political competence or constant warfare?
>> A Wizard - Mon, 07 Sep 2015 14:43:14 EST b0Z6XbnQ No.56104 Reply >>56094They do go hand in hand I find, lol.
