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- Tue, 12 Jun 2018 13:04:25 EST 0qSO+rVA No.57461
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I would like to be thoroughly informed on contemporary life in (South) Korea.
Can anyone recommend me books on Korean history from around 1945 onwards, as well as anything more to do with what it's like to live there and be Korean since Industrialisation started, generational differences and such? I don't know where to begin.

I went to my local library and all they had on Korea were two Lonely Planet guides and three war memoirs written by our troops who were involved in the Korean War.
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Polly Bommleteg - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:45:45 EST 0qSO+rVA No.57463 Reply
I found a load of contemporary Korean ethnographies but they start at $40 and go up to $300 or so.
Thankfully books about North Korea are plentiful and cheap.
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Hamilton Dupperfedge - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:16:45 EST yWuxaTBb No.57464 Reply
>>57463

Maybe OP should just go live in the North for a while. Maybe he can study there.
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Lived in Korea - Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:10:42 EST zaHsBkia No.57515 Reply
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I lived in Korea for all of 2013 teaching English. Most of the books I read concerned Joseon dynasty happenings (King Sejong's rule and reforms, the Imjin Waeran) but one wonderful, excellent source for modern Korean history is the following blog:

http://populargusts.blogspot.com/

The author, a Canadian PhD in history (IIRC), covers all sorts of events, cultural shifts, and tensions from the late nineteenth century to the present day. There are multiple exhaustively researched posts on:

-the Olympics in 1988 (S. Korea's "we're rich now" coming-out party)
-1970's rule by Park Chung-hee, who jump-started the economy, criminalized marijuana (a traditional medicine for ~2000 years), and gang-pressed any hippies into suicide missions to the North
-the Gwangju pro-democracy uprisings and their brutal suppression
-the wealth gap and what "success" means in Korea today
-the Japanese occupation (torture, land reform, collaborators, legacy)
-the role of Christianity from early missions to present day (Korea is I think the most Christian country in all East Asia - 1/3 of the population or so?)
-anti-foreigner sentiment (the guy does kind of have a persecution complex)
-Korean literature from Yi Sang (1900's) to the present
-Korean film in cultural context (here's a good one I remember him linking to, about getting by in an increasingly money-oriented and less traditional society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S3srD7qx9c )

&c. He's just fucking great. Follow up on what he mentions (books, films, music) and you will know a great deal about Korea.

Also, the Royal Asiatic Society's Korea branch has their own little printing press and all of their books are awesome. Check out these lists of titles and see if anything strikes your fancy: http://www.raskb.com/node/7

Also this Atlantic article I think is pretty smart: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/gangnam-style-dissected-the-subversive-message-within-south-koreas-music-video-sensation/261462/

Why did America even give a shit

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- Wed, 20 Apr 2016 00:46:22 EST NN93ashj No.56644
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Like what was the point of the cold war? Why was someone else following a different economic system... a threat?
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Lydia Crushwill - Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:51:05 EST LOqox0NU No.57510 Reply
>>56646
So the real fight wasn't ideology but geo political dominance?
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Wesley Bunspear - Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:04:10 EST xAfK7Kl5 No.57513 Reply
>>57510
yes. Capitalist powers even supported Communists when it fit their aims, even at the very start of the Soviet Union. For example, Lenin was chauffeured into Russia by the German Reich. Russia in turn used Western leftists as useful idiots to further its own aims. Same as they do today with Right-wing groups like Jobbik.

And then for a different type of imperialism, you had the element of chauvinistic Jews who saw Soviet-style socialism and mass terror as a way to gain the upper hand over the Goyim, so you got seemingly paradoxical stuff like rich Jewish bankers such as Olof Aschberg, Jacob Schiff and Karl Radek financing the Bolsheviks. Winston Churchill, among others, wrote about this back in the 20's: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

Vikings

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- Thu, 07 Jan 2016 11:17:16 EST yEdEzxgG No.56393
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What are some good resources on the Old Norsemen, or Vikings? Namely I want to learn about their patterns on settlement around Europe. They could have set up a maritime Empire similar to what the British had in later centuries so it seems, so why was that never realized? They conquered enough land to start it.
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Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:56:30 EST RBbEukYB No.57477 Reply
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>>57475
weak bait
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Polly Minkinpan - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:00:33 EST CK1mjPuU No.57481 Reply
>>57477
Thats was probably a Finnish boat that Swedish historical revisionists decided to take credit for.
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Barnaby Figglefuck - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 22:19:09 EST siJ9imet No.57489 Reply
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>>57477
User is currently banned from all boards

russia

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- Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:51:44 EST jDhu60RY No.57488
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>Ivan the Terrible
>1530 to 1584
while west europeans underwent the renaissance and painted realistic art russia was literally still giving their kings epithets like were they legends and only made one painting of their first tsar that is literally middle age tier

Histories biggest Chad

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- Fri, 30 Mar 2018 21:26:22 EST 2kVQJUZ4 No.57414
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My vote goes to Mark Antony
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Ebenezer Sillerhock - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 01:03:53 EST zPMk1XQv No.57425 Reply
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>>57424
Yeah, I got really sad when I tried to pick up a picture of him for my post and all duckduckgo gave me was excerpts from the manga. I imagine Medieval poetic epic fans feel the same when they look up Astolfo and drown in lewd femboi goodness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astolfo
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Hedda Dreddlewag - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:21:56 EST 2kVQJUZ4 No.57426 Reply
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>>57425
Oh my god I'm so fucking sick of Astolfo
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Angus Boblingridge - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:30:10 EST zPMk1XQv No.57429 Reply
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>>57426
Yeah he kind of has become the meme husbando of choice for fashionable bisexuals and other irritants. I like him, he's so very cute and bubbly, but not unlike with Heath Ledger's Joker back in the day, I have to keep a wide berth so I don't get swallowed up by the cancer.

Back on topic, though, I'd also like to nominate Ted Bundy.
>grows up in a home with an abusive, racist grandfather and a grandmother that gets shock treatment monthly or so for depression
>is told that his mother is his sister, figures out that this is bullshit on his own
>ends up rich and successful anyways
>some girl breaks his heart
>he gets a new girlfriend, cheats on her with the old one, winning back the old gf's love just so he can then break her heart and laugh about it
>can get any woman he wants
>abducts, rapes, tortures, and murders them anyways
>in jail as a murder suspect
>fucking escapes, could have laid low and gone free, just goes around murdering people anyways
>final murder trial is going well, he might just get off scot-free somehow
>shithouses the whole deal anyways
>about to get executed
>blames it all on true crime comics and porn just to piss everyone off one last time

Truly an inspirational underdog story for the modern age.

ISIS Status Update

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- Thu, 14 May 2015 09:42:52 EST q6QF5w+I No.55391
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Even as a pacifist I hope ISIS gets wiped off the earth.
Let all Bullets and Bombs rain down on these deranged religiots.

What's the status actually?
Are they still in control of large areas?
How much is left of them?
When will they be defeated?
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Edwin Doggleridge - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:07:04 EST dUHNnmI0 No.57356 Reply
>>57353

I just had a realization that the Kurds are basically the new Poles. Turkey:Syria:US::UK:Russia:Germany
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Priscilla Murdbanks - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:49:36 EST sYpKvVF0 No.57404 Reply
Looks like its gone South for the Kurds in Afrin with the Turkish army offensive. Meanwhile ISIS have re-emerged in Iraq and have been in conflict with the Kurds in recent weeks.
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Phyllis Brookville - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:30:47 EST /mZfItc6 No.57405 Reply
>>57404

yeah, poor kurd-bros got fucked in afrin by erdoganistan

The Oil Industry

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- Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:40:04 EST 8P+TfceH No.57305
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Easily one of the most influential shadow histories in global economics.

Why isn't it talked about more in schools?

Wars have been decided and aimed at the acquiring this black gold.

/his/ Discord for General History - Just started back up again, join if interested
https://discord.gg/KNzz9Wk
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Nicholas Tillingford - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:55:30 EST QXkOojeI No.57382 Reply
most people are under the illusion of nationalism, with a hint of tribemind us vs. them, good guys vs. bad guys thinking
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Caroline Murdson - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:49:12 EST gGfsSn/q No.57402 Reply
>>57305
It's not taught in schools because then there's a whole other list of things that should be talked about, like the way the middle East was mapped and forced to comply to those borders, and how THAT was based on the division of Africa and the ability to exploit other resources. And how THAT was allowable because of the leadership that was in charge of WWI and WWII, our deified governmental leaders who were, at best, period socially liberal and radically so but today were still astoundingly openly racist. And THEN you have to talk about...
See how this is going? This doesn't happen because, no snit, there's a school that no limits historybeing truly taught in public schools, and showing people for their entire persons and not just the neat stuff you can talk about at the soda shop with B&V. I mean, it makes for boring discourse ALLL. THROUGH. LIFE. But it also means others can... feel better? I dunno.

Was Jesus an Iron Age cult leader?

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- Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:42:44 EST 6FQAmMFX No.57218
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Hi all (Before I start quick disclosure: I am an atheist but I am here to have an honest discussion and am not here to troll and offend anyone.)

When i read the account of Christ and I read it as a myth that was meant to be examined as testimony I imagine that instead of reading a book Luke, John, or Matthew are at the bar just telling me a story about some guy they knew. This is what a testimony is after all: a story someone tells you. If a book is written in the format of a testimony thus you must not necessarily believe the narrator at all times. Sometimes you can assume that he is lying or exaggerating things just like a stranger telling you a story at a bar would. (Sorry for the long intro but it will help the rest of this make sense... hopefully) So following this logic and using its lens to examine the bible I make 3 assumptions as I read the accounts of Christs life.

1 - Jesus is not divine and has no special powers. (ex. I've never seen a dude walk on water why would I believe a testimony that says someone saw someone do it somewhere.)

2 - No one else has special powers everyone is a human limited by the knowledge and culture of Iron Age Middle East.

3 - Jesus is corruptible just like every other person.

Now with all this in play as I go through the bible I hear a story about a Iron age Rabbi that ran an organization with lots of hall marks of a cult like abandoning families to follow a holy teacher, giving up wealth, and dedicating one entire life soul, body, and mind to the holy teacher. Further this holy teacher showed them a bunch of cheap parlor tricks. The holy teacher was so narcissistic and egocentric that anytime anything other then him comes up he tells you how unimportant it is compared to him and tells you to give up everything just to worship him and serve him.

Further he is reckless and his delusions of grandeur like thinking he is himself a god as well as his corrupt nature like soaking himself in a years wages worth of perfume in one sitting in front of a bunch of people who gave everything up to obey and follow him. The picture is clear. I do not see a wise and loving guy. I see Charles Manson or Marshall Applewhite.

Again, I am not here trying to offend anyone, I am just trying to honestly explain my thought process. Now that I explained my thoughts, what I really want to ask is what are yours? How do you read the bible? How do you see Jesus? What do you think were his motivations and aspirations? And most importantly why do you believe these things.

My analysis lead me to make this documentary about the life of Christ where I go into detail and develop my thesis from birth to crucifixion. If you care for such a thing here is a link.
https://www.youtube.com...
(I will warn because it is based on the biblical account of the life of Jesus there is explicit content that is violent and sexual in nature in some parts of his life's account.)
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Hannah Hecklewell - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:15:23 EST tzC97MoX No.57391 Reply
>>57218

i think OP you're being slightly harsh on jesus here, not way off, just reading some sinister intentions in to what may have been genuine philosophy, misguided or not.

first of all Jesus may not have ever claimed to be capable of miracles. For instance take the fish and bread that fed too many people, maybe in real life, Jesus convinced a large number of very hungry people to share a relatively small amount of food and everybody ended up with some. That might constitute a "miracle" in some sense, it would be the kind of thing that would make you respect the charisma and authority of somebody, without it being actually supernatural. And then 5-8 generations and 100-200 years later when the gospels were written (just ball parking here) the story had morphed into full miracles

pretty much all of the miracles i could find in the gospels could be explained in similar ways, turning the water to wine could be done in a similar way to the fish and bread, maybe he was just good at planning parties in an era where most parties ended up with physical altercations over the wine. as for raising people from the dead i dont recall him ever raising anybody who wasnt recently deceased and ancient medical knowledge wasnt that good, maybe some poor souls werent really dead and had a brief bit of awareness when jesus happened to come through and bless them

so i dont think the miracles thing is necessarily evidence that Jesus was deceiving his disciples.

as far as asking that his followers abandon family and possessions, there's no doubt this is a hallmark of cult behavior, however, i think there's a difference between deceptive narcisissitic cults and genuinely deluded cults, like the difference between charles manson's cult and mormonism

maybe jesus really truly believed his followers would achieve the highest truth, morality, etc by giving up everything and following him, he would not be even remotely alone in thinking this way, its basically the story of like every ancient buddhist/eastern spiritual leader

this applies to the fact that he focuses everything on himself too, if he really thought he had discovered the secrets of the universe, then it would only be right for everybody to drop everything and listen to him, and maybe he really thought there was no better use for a ton of expensive perfume than to make some cryptic philophical point (i actually dont remember what the perfume thing was about)

so to summarize, i definitely agree he was a cult leader, but im not so sure he was a manipulative guy, when his story is not so different from tons of other earnest spiritual leaders throughout history
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Edwin Tootbury - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 12:34:56 EST PmmRJlWL No.57411 Reply
>>57388
If true, it'd be pointless to keep them so secret. Nobody cares about dualism in 2018. There's plenty enough Gnostic texts out there to piece together what they believed. All they'd be doing is hindering the progress of archaeology. Would you not want to provide evidence of the success of your past conquests?

No, I suspect the texts in that library are far more 'foundational' than heretical.
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Walter Hillerhood - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:05:55 EST IlyKIasb No.57430 Reply
OP's observation is neither new nor particularly unique btw.

>>57250
As Simon bar Kokhba, but he is not remembered like Jesus was because his followers blew their load fast.

It is better to say that Hellenistic age Judaism fostered both messianic and proselytic tendencies that manifested in a diverse set of cultic beliefs based on individual spiritual leaders, of which Christianity was one and the birth of Gnosticism is likely tied into this process where regional communities could have significant sway over scriptural interpretation.

In other words, Judaism by the 1st century AD was rapidly diversifying as a congregation far away from Herod's Temple. This was the beginning of the diaspora, and in the beginning, it was fueled by converts. Modern Judaism discourages converts, but the Maccabees readily encouraged the conversion of gentiles to ward off centuries of depopulation in Judea proper. There were dense populations in Alexandria and Cyprus, Greece, Syria, and Rome itself. They were not active in banking, which was predominately dominated by established Latin or Greek banking charters that had evolved from the temple lending system of Archaic times.

In this context, much like you can trace evolutionary ancestors back by comparing structural similarities, the birth of Christianity becomes quite clear.

Medieval Japan

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- Tue, 28 Oct 2014 02:55:10 EST GZTV3220 No.54171
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Japan's history has always interested me, in fact feudal Japan or Sengoku Japan is what got me into history in the first place. I know it's over played and anime and weaboos have kinda ruined Japan's reputation. But, aside from all that, japan in the Sengoku era was extremely bloody and treacherous. Wars were constantly being fought, enemy armies just a few miles away from you being on such a small island. It was quite war torn. It was much like medieval Europe, just more violent compared to how small the country is and how many battles and wars were fought in such a short time. Their culture and warrior class was extremely sophisticated and unique. It might not be the most powerful or most influential in the world, but the civilizations before the western ideology conquered wer extremely unique and quute different than the rest of the world. You could say that before the west spread Iit's influence, Japan was a pretty mysterious place. It's quite fun to study if you ask me.

Inb4: I'm not some weaboo
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Matilda Goodhood - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 00:17:29 EST b0Z6XbnQ No.56091 Reply
>>56082

Should really place the european comparison a good 200years back though. The 1400s were the end of that age of europe and the hailing of the renaissance. Japan (and east asia in general) fell a bit behind in this period, due to political incompetence.

Suicide mode d emploi 1982 (Claude Guillon - Yves Le Bonniec)

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- Thu, 01 Feb 2018 17:56:31 EST jTO7vV4p No.57358
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Does any1 know where to find this? Book in subject... It's a history book.
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Suicide mode d emploi 1982 (Claude Guillon - Yves Le Bonniec) request - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 16:11:00 EST jTO7vV4p No.57360 Reply
>>57359
Thnx

Cults of St. George

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- Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:42:40 EST 6GEx+/2g No.57307
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Does anyone have any resources or material on the history or doctrine of any of the cults of St. George that supposedly existed in the medieval times?

I've recently gotten into esoteric Christianity and the Legend of St. George and his martyrdom has great significance to me. I can't really find much on google.
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Walter Worthingbury - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 04:32:37 EST 60BLApn7 No.57337 Reply
>>57321
homeboy wasn't asking about the life of St. George, he was asking about cults of St. George in the Middle Ages. Chill out.
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Sidney Mablingfat - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:08:05 EST TOP9kWlt No.57343 Reply
>>57307
Do you have a general work on saints?
Something like: A Brief History of Saints (BLACKWELL BRIEF HISTORIES OF RELIGION), Lawrence S. Cunningham

Footnotes in there could be helpful for something specific on St. George.
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Oliver Bardwell - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 08:36:07 EST dUHNnmI0 No.57344 Reply
>>57314

kneejerk tribalist reactionary faggot with a superiority complex and poor reading comprehension detected. nb.

Abyssinia General

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- Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:32:46 EST MffvHEZt No.57300
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It's obvious that most of African history is either lumped into one generalized plot line of "primitive city-states" pre colonialism, or overshadowed by Egypt or mostly ignored all together. I want to talk about the most overlooked empire/empires in Africa, and possibly the world.
As far back as D'mt, Axum and then Abyssinia, the nation-state that is now Ethiopia is a deeply ancient culture and history that has played major roles in world history, dating back thousands of years. Before we get bogged down into "starving Ethiopian" meme's, lets take a second to discuss Ethiopian history, and maybe share some ideas about why it might not ever be talked about in our "post-colonial" society.

Let's have at it!
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Charlemagne - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 13:26:17 EST 7moSACzs No.57334 Reply
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Ethiopian art is pretty interesting. It's got this almost anime style to it and of course you get Ethiopian Jesus. And their script is some fantasy shit, having been around since at least the first century AD, being descended from a Bronze Age Arabic script.
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Charlemagne - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 13:28:27 EST 7moSACzs No.57335 Reply
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Here's a pic of Ge'ez. Would have shared an alphabet table but then you don't really get a feel for what it looks like.
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