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The peasants, citizens and background characters of history.

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- Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:19:05 EST 99/qp7+6 No.57206
File: 1498699145998.jpg -(65944B / 64.40KB, 500x385) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. The peasants, citizens and background characters of history.
Most of history is the mundane everyday goings of the populous,
I believe that the masses are really what history is about, not great men.
I'd like to take a chance to talk about the people, the collective, the
"zeitgeist" if you will of the population.

ITT: We talk about the people as if they were a great person.

For instance:
The majority of peoples in the United States (2017) is a slightly overweight, suppressed and tired person. He works for a company that sees him as little more than a resource and he's pretty tired of it. But he's loyal and works hard, to a flaw even and takes any abuse he's given at work for a fairly low wage.

He doesn't trust the government and is skeptical of most people claiming to be a savior. He's very religious and donates a good amount of his cash to christian charities. He tends to only read things that affirm his beliefs and is not open to new ideas. He is divorced or in a loveless relationship, he doesn't much care for his children who for the most part are not as far as he'd hoped they'd be in life.

U.S man (I say man because the U.S is inexplicably masculine) is getting over a long racial-based guilt. He drinks a few beers a day. He drinks a few cups of coffee a day. He's on medication and sometimes doesn't even know what for. He's skeptical of his neighbors, especially if they have darker skin.

U.S man, currently is evaluating his options and is jumping to extreme stances. I hope he can hold it together.
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Betsy Sinkinwidge - Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:08:43 EST OIj+UVJT No.57207 Reply
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Hell yeah. I think about that shit all of the time.. The real super heroes are the mother fuckers that ate shit and lived through horrid conditions to propel humanity into a state where it was able to thrive. And I mean.. The level of shit eating just built progressively on top of itself.

i.e. everyone has ate shit, but some have ate more shit than others. The barely evolved homo sapien that lived into there 30's and endured the most painful ailments is one level.. The European settler that lived in the more recent centuries was one.. I mean altogether, those struggles add up to get us to this point, here..

It's pretty wild because we don't know shit about them. And really, they're us. We are reflective of them. But their conscious experiences were so much more fucked up than ours - not to say they didn't experience pleasure, too. Or even a satisfying life. But there's so much painful momentum that had to be built up by those poor assholes to get us here.

Historical artifacts questions.

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- Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:27:22 EST CfVamwXk No.57200
File: 1498066042627.jpg -(3052098B / 2.91MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Historical artifacts questions.
Hey fellow stoned history geeks. I have a very interesting piece of militaria in my collection. My research into this is sadly minimal, I learned that Special Forces trained in Germany, and were housed in the same barracks the Waffen-SS trained in. The Death Head was sort of a moral patch in a way. But I would like any more info on this Beret if you guys have any knowledge in this.

And too keep the thread going, if anyone has any historical item from history they are curious about post them here and tell us what you know. Maybe someone can answer a few questions.
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Nicholas Dunkinfuck - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:29:25 EST CfVamwXk No.57201 Reply
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Here is the soldiers name. Googling found very little as well.
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Archie Dingershaw - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 23:23:43 EST nzDJ3VGr No.57202 Reply
The flash (badge) goes with the 5th Special Forces Group. I seriously doubt it was ever worn in Germany though and not just because that group was never deployed there. That person probably had a patch with just the pattern and they would put their rank in the center.

As for repurposed Nazi construction, that happened all over. There are still Americans living and working in Nazi buildings.

Indian History Thread

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- Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:50:48 EST OE1PGRtd No.55613
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INDIA
I don't hear nearly enough about Indian History, 'specially since they invented shit like our number system and how the ancestors of many Indians are so intimately linked with the ancestors of most Europeans
Like, you know, Sanskrit, Parsi, and Greek share a relatively recent ancestor, 'specially compared to languages like Basque and Spanish or Finnish and Swedish.

So, what d'you think is NEAT about India? Some shit from the Harrappan Civilization? Some fucking thing the Buddha did, or Jainism, or maybe some Hindu mythologies? Babur? The British East India Company? War with Pakistan?
Tell me what you know about the worlds most populous democracy!
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Cedric Cellersud - Thu, 04 May 2017 10:16:38 EST 8iQhyERG No.57178 Reply
>>55613
"Everyone bathe in the same river for 200 years. When they ask, you are spiritually advanced."
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George Nondleshit - Sun, 07 May 2017 12:06:29 EST YEmgtMe4 No.57181 Reply
>>57178
>Everyone bathe in the same river for 200 years.
Is this supposed to be a joke based off of a fundamental misunderstanding of how rivers work?

The big M

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- Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:45:23 EST PqJIYKVF No.56862
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/his/, what's the deal with Mussolini? Was he cool? Does he just get trashed because he was a fascist, or was he actually a dic?

pic related.
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Caroline Grandridge - Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:21:17 EST 8hSk1rC9 No.56944 Reply
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>>56943
Those are all places Italy invaded and annexed before and during WWII, many of which were neutral or axis powers.
It's silly to paint a fascist power that claimed it was their people's right to conquer other people as some benign victim who just wanted autonomy for their people.
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Cedric Cellersud - Thu, 04 May 2017 10:20:33 EST 8iQhyERG No.57179 Reply
>>56862
Look to your left. Now look to your right. Neither of these people will correctly lecture you on Mussolini. College students majoring in political studies have a 1 in 5 chance of being enamored with fascist thought.
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Martin Derrysere - Sat, 06 May 2017 00:57:36 EST gLL4HKNH No.57180 Reply
>>56862
I'd say the italian fascist movement in general is more interesting than mussolini the man. In a nutshell he was a socialist (like most anti-establishment intellectuals at the time) who was kicked out of the socialist party due to his refusal to accept neutrality in WW1. Fascist intellectuals saw the bolshevik experience as a failure due to the wide spread famine which occurred after the revolution. He was apart of this circle, although not keenly influential in fascist thought per-se, which through the vanguard of a few heavyweights saw itself make a natural transition from socialism -> national syndicalism -> fascism. This was the a result of asking a pretty important question, how can we get italy off its knees sucking the dick of european powers and on its two feet as a super power?

Italy unified late during the fervor of nationalism unleashed by napoleon and the economic development of italy was also behind its neighbors. Italy needed an industrial revolution but found itself devoid of the natural resources necessary to spark it as england/germany/france were doing.

The result was, in my opinion, a patchwork 'third way' out of economic obscurity and into supposed greatness; part of that was the use of nationalism via their Roman heritage to justify their (once again...) late arrival to the colony scene. Mussolini was expedient in the sense that he wasn't really an ideologue, although i'd say he was an intellectual. Early in fascist development (1921) Mussolini said,

"The state must maintain all imaginable possible controls, but it must renounce every form of economic management"

But fascist third-way corporatism eventually (in my opinion) found itself give way to good ol' fashion socialism under the bolshevik model.

Suomio

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- Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:34:00 EST SbLL3rxd No.56367
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Why didn't the Finnic culture/language spread in Europe? They were there longer than Indo-Europeans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3UH-lSm-40
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Reuben Smallridge - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:25:51 EST GwUD1vEi No.57042 Reply
Because Indo-Europeans domesticated horses and invented war chariots.

Also it did spread, much of the northern part of European Russia is made of Republics with significant Finno-Ugric populations.
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Nigel Doffingtat - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 00:31:36 EST ueQZvpy5 No.57050 Reply
finno-ugrics spread out toward the urals and siberia

I-Es spread out to western europe and even then it was not complete cultural assimilation until the roman era as there are many pre IE european holdouts in antiquity (etruscans, nuragics, eteocretans/cypriots, paleoiberians plus the forefathers to the basques)
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Ebenezer Dishson - Wed, 03 May 2017 16:13:34 EST 8gNEOVqK No.57175 Reply
>>57007i know this whole crazy finnish meme is great but this doesnt look any more complex than latin really. it starts with a root word and branches off into a few different word meanings depending on how you use the root, then each word has different tenses and forms depending on context, like how you have to conjugate verbs and decline nouns in latin. It's confusing as fuck for an english speaker, but so is Latin to be fair, it's just a little easier because we happen to still use a lot of latin roots.

emailing academics?

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- Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:16:48 EST XFbI7gxA No.56613
File: 1459027008847.jpg -(65343B / 63.81KB, 640x432) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. emailing academics?
Would it be inappropriate to email a question to an associate professor at a major university about sources for a course of his that's cited on wikipedia?
I'm trying to find information about Uruk's population in the third millennium BCE, but most of the figures online don't cite any real scholarly data and a reference to part of a course this professor taught is the most I can find on wikipedia.
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Hamilton Bollerdock - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 14:02:17 EST cVNnBfM0 No.57035 Reply
>>56613
Email their graduate students. They do all the work anyways.
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Hamilton Clayville - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:28:02 EST ERYmyDk/ No.57162 Reply
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>>56613
If you are close to the campus you can probably stop by his office during office hours.
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Ebenezer Dishson - Wed, 03 May 2017 16:09:45 EST 8gNEOVqK No.57174 Reply
>>57162
thats weird to do if you're not even a student at that university though
emailing the guy isn't weird op, but i see why you'd ask. if his email is on the school website and he has published work, (what history professor hasn't published at least some journal articles, though?) you are totally fine to email him about his work.

Learning all the things: Greece

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- Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:58:33 EST z22WJzz+ No.57137
File: 1491447513706.jpg -(29963B / 29.26KB, 366x488) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Learning all the things: Greece
If I wanted to learn all there is to know about Ancient Greece and its history (especially concerning their political system, mythology, major philosophies/philosophers, and how these things related to and affected lives, from the top echelons of society down to the average person), where would you recommend that I start?

ITT give me documentaries, books, podcasts, articles or just tell me any facts that you personally find interesting about the aforementioned subjects. I want to know things
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Sidney Sigglestone - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:10:40 EST +A561kbm No.57169 Reply
>>57168
Sir, if you watched Ave Imperator instead of Historia Civilis, you might be a little more stoic and a little less prone to hyperbole and emotional instability. Valete.

Logical Catholic Order

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- Fri, 17 Mar 2017 22:40:39 EST Ygs9AYXj No.57124
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Is or was there a Catholic order of which the testaments of the bible are interpreted as histories of interactions between humans who had technology to live eternal life and those who were other than possessing technology to live eternal life?
I am a Catholic, and though I'm spiritually starving for some community realism...so I want to know.
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Kyle Lewis Sison - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:38:09 EST Ygs9AYXj No.57128 Reply
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>>57127
I'm just early (hopefully) and trying to save. If I succeed then you succeed...so wish me luck?
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Cædmon Clipian - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 02:34:06 EST 56/DbdeS No.57160 Reply
>>57124
The neo-orthodoxy movement of the 20th Century laid the groundwork for realist Christian ordinance, but was largely a Lutheran trend. If I were you, I'd disavow Catholicism if realism is what you seek.
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Cædmon Clipian - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 02:34:06 EST 56/DbdeS No.57161 Reply
>>57124
The neo-orthodoxy movement of the 20th Century laid the groundwork for realist Christian ordinance, but was largely a Lutheran trend. If I were you, I'd disavow Catholicism if realism is what you seek.

The history channel isnt history hear my drunken rant!

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- Sun, 09 Apr 2017 17:07:48 EST ozqZ+LdR No.57141
File: 1491772068605.png -(428490B / 418.45KB, 499x499) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. The history channel isnt history hear my drunken rant!
Pawnstars:

Scripted TV show with made up historical objects 80% of the show is about the characters and not history

Ancient aliens:

Some batshit insane guy trying to convince everyone that aliens exist and created our plant is not history, there isnt any historical evidence or facts confirming this.

Swamp People: Bunch of redneck inbreds hunting alligators and living in louisiana

Ax men: Lumberjackasses logging trees

Big Rig Bounty Hunters: Some fat fuck that repossess trucks

American Pickers: some con artists who pick garbage then claim its old and historical and raises the prices above being fair at all.

Counting Cars: Spin-off of pawn stars, has nothing to do with history

Mountain men: some old bearded guy yelling at other bearded guys showing survival skills in the mountains.

Alone: Basically the real life hunger games again 80% of the time it's about them it has nothing to do with history.

Forged in Fire: basically metalworkers,...that's about it.

The Curse of Oak Island: Two closest homosexuals trying to solve an urban legend in a scripted tv show that will never be solved.


Tell me /H I S/ How the fuck am i supposed to learn anything about the past or how this can benefit real life historians?
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Archie Supperlan - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:44:35 EST GJTiKYyy No.57158 Reply
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I completely agree, the history channel is just reality tv now to be competitive
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Sidney Sammergold - Tue, 02 May 2017 10:56:44 EST jf6fe/6r No.57172 Reply
>>57141
>>57159
>>57157
It's not just this History Channel... It's every channel. Sci-fi has wrestling. TLC is half reality and home and garden shows. The Home & Garden channel is half cute-animal shows. BBC airs Star Trek TNG for half the day. It goes on and on. No US channel that airs with a particular genre or style manages to maintain it for more than a handful of years before it hijacks itself for more profitable, entirely unrelated programming.

Oh, and there's another writer's strike coming up, so get ready for even MORE reality shows!

You're kinda stuck with on-demand or the Internet. The commercial model of television is just plain broken for specialty channels, even though all hundred of those channels are all owned by maybe five corporations, and they could certainly use the "popular" channels to fund the specialty channels. One would *think* that fact would prevent this crap, but alas, it is not the case, as each is forced to compete for earnings individually.

PBS still has its ups and downs I suppose.

Tell me everything you want me to know

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- Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:38:35 EST 3zNoMkNy No.56988
File: 1479602315263.jpg -(1351777B / 1.29MB, 4160x3120) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Tell me everything you want me to know
Hey, /his/, I live in Iceland so I feel distant from other countries. Most people here are informed, I think.. But I'm not sure whether it was my parents being separated/ dad in jail/ mother being completely ignorant of all problems in the world
But I never learned anything truly about the world. I'm 20 and in 2014 I asked my formed boyfriend the question "What is a fascist?" he was shocked having me not known what it was, as well as not knowing anything about North Korea
I felt angry myself that I didn't know these things and entered a class completely based on WWII, but it was intended for complete history nerds, so I went about deep details which usually people wouldn't even know about Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin.
However I still don't feel in place here. During the American elections I got pretty scared that WWIII might happen, because I've gone into way deep shit about how incredibly awful WWII was, and I know nuclear weapons are probably wayyy worse now than during Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but I calmed down and don't think/hope not that Trump will be going near that.
I also have been reading about ISIS, the Al-Quaeda, even tried to read some of Islam but all of which I did just sounded exactly like the bible, although I know it isn't, they worship Allah, and things are fucked in their beliefs although I want to find out exactly what their religion bases itself off, and what ISIS stands on
I want to understand what's going on in Syria and how to feel about refugees, I know they are being off limited in every country, even here in Iceland, and just what we could do for them, why everything is happening in the world..
I know my country is very small and insignificant to the outer world, but I really want to know whats going on, because it is happening, its real and thus it is important, and I will keep coming here to try to get a fix over whats up, but I'd also like it if you guys could help me gather more info, comment about it, or even drop me links, whatever it is.
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George Clayson - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:22:53 EST nLTvpZ14 No.57134 Reply
>>57132
No one is accusing you of being a Stormfronter. I accused you of being a fucking stormfront immigrant.

If you don't know the proper catplanet, that just proves that you're a fucking stormfront immigrant.
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Caroline Higglekid - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:33:10 EST JgLSnCXL No.57135 Reply
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>>56988
It's tough to say what's going on, as the internet has ceased to be a way to accurately acquire info (in my opinion). There is quite a bit of misinformation, as has always been. Check out the Katyn Massacre. The soviets murdered the heads of the Polish army and this information was suppressed in the west because we had to be behind Russia for economic and military reasons. They tried to pin it on the National Socialists at the Nuremburg trials and they all lol'd. So yeah, I'd go with Sherlock Holmes in that your mind has only so much space, don't tax it and your sanity attempting to make sense of heavily suppressed current events while a league of idiots bleat on your ear. History will tell us what we didn't do.
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Thomas Mimmerfire - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 23:53:37 EST JvKHliQV No.57136 Reply
>>57135
>the internet has ceased to be a way to accurately acquire info (in my opinion)

Nah, you just gotta know how to vet sources as credible or not.

Christ's Cut

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- Sun, 06 Mar 2016 13:01:52 EST wFiqczKy No.56569
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Did Jesus have a Jewfro or an Afro?
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Oliver Sinningpone - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 16:25:21 EST YEmgtMe4 No.57119 Reply
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>>57117
>All that matters is that his education came from the east
Word?
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Fanny Fuckingworth - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 21:05:05 EST wVlCXJBU No.57120 Reply
>>57117

u do know Lamb was a satirical work of fiction right?
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Oliver Puggleburk - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 13:33:19 EST mSizdWFT No.57129 Reply
>>57120
Soooo fucking good though. Need to reread nb

Looting lol

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- Tue, 28 Feb 2017 02:43:55 EST +Y0H01EZ No.57109
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So, I live in an area with a lot of historic sites for the United States--loads of maneuvering and raiding and fighting during the Civil War, some action in the Revolutionary War & 1812, plus the fact that Europeans have been in the area for 400 years. Unfortunately, a lot of important shit gets paved over all the time. Battlefields being turned into subdivisions and shopping malls. I got a nifty metal detector for Christmas so I think I'm gonna snoop around a wooded area at the junction of two local roads behind a gas station later this week. According to some local records during the Civil War a group of Confederates and Union troops skirmished at that road junction. There's another road nearby that something like 50 generals marched troops on during the War I'd like to search. Keeping in mind none of this land is parkland if you get caught relic hunting on protected battlefields they fine you, lock you in jail, & confiscate your metal detector & the vehicle you drove in on , have any of yall ever gone out and tried to gather relics?

I know it's trespassing but these are basically bum-infested thickets waiting to get turned into another strip mall and it feels wasteful having that history get lost, you know?
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Polly Fullernick - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:19:37 EST ueQZvpy5 No.57114 Reply
>>57112
This. Never forget your actions are not in a vacuum, and other people will follow your lead if you let them. One bullet is nothing. A thousand idiots with metal detectors trampling over historical sites is not nothing. Europe has huge problems with treasure hunters ruining old Roman ruins or neolithic dolmens trying to hunt for gold.
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Cyril Widgenut - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 09:11:39 EST nLTvpZ14 No.57118 Reply
>>57114
>searching for gold in neolithic dolmens

Just when you think people can't get more retarded... they do.

How reliable is historiography?

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- Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:17:53 EST ywx7469d No.57044
File: 1484770673970.png -(749525B / 731.96KB, 2268x2273) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How reliable is historiography?
Sometimes I get a little paranoid about this. Do all historians have evidences about they're afirmatives?
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William Grimman - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 02:50:00 EST 4Js4gPGR No.57106 Reply
>>57105

I was just fucking with him

I don't even know what histiography is.

Periods which need more exposure?

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- Mon, 07 Nov 2016 10:53:53 EST mHFutvZ2 No.56963
File: 1478534033490.jpg -(310236B / 302.96KB, 1405x1500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Periods which need more exposure?
Medieval Byzantium certainly doesn't get enough credit
>stole silk from China
>greek fire
>essentially bought the huns off as permanent mercenaries

What periods do you think need more exposure? What times do you think its important for the average person to know more about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaZK-WqZMB8
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Phyllis Brunkinham - Sun, 25 Dec 2016 17:30:22 EST ZG4s1pP5 No.57031 Reply
>>57009
I've been to the horn of africa and it's an utter shithole. Nothing of value
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zxz - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:07:05 EST hJDXnZvF No.57039 Reply
ancient colombia and mexico

all the old world shit is greeeat and all,

but people in central and southern mexico and colombia were doing mushrooms and dmt for thousands of years. no one gives a fuck though thats the part thats so mind numbing to me.

art is cute and all but what can you actually experience and take hold of or apply from these other places. theres very little that you can turn in to your own experience.
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Hamilton Brugglebury - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:48:56 EST pjKBi0qU No.57040 Reply
>>57039
>no one gives a fuck though thats the part thats so mind numbing to me.
Because that culture was so thoroughly raped, there's so few people around who truly know and very, very scarce records. This was deliberate. Destroy all knowledge of these peoples because it was inferior to the glorious might of Spanish Catholicism.

I had this super hippy dippy sociology professor in college. He told us this story about how he was doing research in South America (he did his dissertation on Liberation Theology) and he rode up to a group of very rural people on a horse with his companions. And they had never seen a white man before, and so appears this man with long hair and pale skin and they think it's Jesus Christ himself. Pretty whacky stuff. But yeah, the reach of the Spanish Empire was long my friend.

But beyond the Drugs dude. Like in Peru, the Incans were literally the Roman Empire with a massive sprawling connected empire of roads and cities (i think it was more complicated politically). So they got fucked cause they got there late. This was like, an ongoing process in the 1500s. It's not like Ancient Egypt where these ruins have been

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