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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Greece vs Rome debate / Other debates

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- Mon, 07 Mar 2016 20:49:46 EST dLt1LZNw No.56573
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Thought you might like this, stumbled upon this debate on the cultural significance of Rome and Greece to the contemporary world between Boris Johnson(Greece) and Mary Beard and found it highly entertaining and interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k448JqQyj8

Personally, I'm just a sucker for Rome so I can't side with Greece.
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Polly Gecklespear - Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:23:38 EST bmbARlua No.56576 Reply
inb4 Boris submits an "edict' to staff ordering them not to disobey or undermine his authority on his position on Greece and then retracts and backpedals wildly to save face.

Mongol Empire Discussion

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- Thu, 07 Jan 2016 17:27:04 EST ldRHh9cM No.56395
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>Be Mongolians
>Have empire stretching from korea to poland
>Americans only remember you for BBQ resturaunts
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Nell Bullyhit - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 15:30:58 EST FqRGTRMQ No.56559 Reply
>>56557
Well, unlike the Mongols that had a massive effect on the world for hundreds of years, the Nazis basically didn't accomplish anything.

>but V2's and jet fighters!
Hitler didn't believe in rockets, and he didn't even see the potential behind them (hell, just look up how Braun looked back at his time making V2's compared to his time at NASA). And those German jet fighters, they were shit. Just like those electro-hybrid engines Porsche tried to make for the Tiger tanks. And a fucking million other projects that sounded good on paper, but failed because Germany didn't have the resources and brainpower (brilliant idea kicking all those Jews out of Germany retards) to handle the engineering difficulties to turn prototypes in mass production objects.
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Cyril Hurringforth - Wed, 02 Mar 2016 07:00:22 EST UH38+jj5 No.56565 Reply
>>56559
I heard he also cancelled any research on projects that could not be developed and battle ready within 1-2 years because he believed the war would be over by then
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Hugh Mogglespear - Wed, 02 Mar 2016 08:39:06 EST FqRGTRMQ No.56566 Reply
>>56565
Yeah he was a fucking idiot. When you really dig into WW2 history, it's just amazing how the Nazis didn't fucking lose right in 1944 or even earlier.

WHO IS THE BEST KING?

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- Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:46:15 EST RZlDnIMx No.56341
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YES, THE TIME HAS COME.

WHO IS THE BEST KING OR MONARCH THAT EVER LIVED?

TELL ME /HIS/, and I will JUDGE YE by YE CHOICE. For me it's gotta be Charlemagne, just saying, but I'm open to hearing other suggestions.
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Priscilla Sillerford - Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:01:25 EST sEJZ+FBf No.56520 Reply
Dear Leader Kim Jong-Il, lodestar of the korean revolution. He was the greateset saviour of humanity.
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Jack Clonkinnack - Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:04:56 EST MzQA4Ad+ No.56528 Reply
Qin Shi Huangdi was a OG nigga, first emperor of China, unified the warring states, initiated the great wall, commissioned the terracotta warriors, mandated a unified currency, initiated numerous public works especially in regards to irrigation and farming, set the stage for China to be the HNIC of asia for millennia.
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Emelienegro !2iyFNTAIpU - Mon, 07 Mar 2016 02:58:13 EST a4cvJIZX No.56572 Reply
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Inb4 mein Fuhrer

Area 51 is South dakota

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- Mon, 15 Feb 2016 00:20:49 EST 5UcdvLNQ No.56503
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I am convinced that Area 51 in Nevada is a decoy, and the REAL Area 51 is the entirety of South Dakota. I've never met anyone from South Dakota. I've never hear any news from South Dakota, I've never seen a license plate from South Dakota, there are no sports teams there, this is all just to perfect of a cover for the governments largest test facility! People will THINK it's a state, but no one will ever actually think ABOUT South Dakota.

Mt Rushmore was specifically built to lure people into a safe area of the site to convince people that it is a real state, but once people are there no one has a desire to go anywhere but out of the "state" so the perfect ruse is maintained.
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Eliza Crinderman - Tue, 16 Feb 2016 05:14:54 EST /FGfbv4A No.56516 Reply
>>56503
Everyone here apart from you is a robot and their is a teakettle on the other side of Saturn.
Also, I haven't been to the States. Have you driven to South Dakota?
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Oliver Duckbanks - Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:59:43 EST 46Ivwr3B No.56519 Reply
>>56503
It may not be a real state, but that doesn't mean that people don't live there. Scientists in underground bunkers must still live. Unless they are indeed robots, as Eliza suggests.
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Nicholas Hacklekodge - Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:59:59 EST 8/4XULkF No.56522 Reply
>>56516
Oh god who would want to go to that musty old clap trap?

Autonomous Zones

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- Mon, 15 Feb 2016 03:13:17 EST oEYT+g/z No.56504
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The Free Territory (Ukrainian: Вiльнa тeритoрiя vilna terytoriya; Russian: свoбoднaя тeрритoрия svobodnaya territoriya) or Makhnovia (Мaхнoвщинa Makhnovshchyna) was an attempt to form a stateless anarchist society during the Ukrainian Revolution. It existed from 1918 to 1921, during which time "free soviets" and libertarian communes operated under the protection of Nestor Makhno's Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army. The population of the area was around seven million.
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Ian Handernure - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:59:43 EST FqRGTRMQ No.56509 Reply
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>>56508
CRUSH ALL HUMAN CULTURE

ONLY TANKS SHALL REIGN

LONG LIVE THE STEEL FLESH

9ASSASSINATE9 9KIRTANER9

Am I missing the joke? What's tankie scum supposed to be?
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Eliza Foblingway - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:04:00 EST 6PhWCkVP No.56510 Reply
>>56509
Tankies are people on the left who unironically defend regimes like those of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc.
It comes from the phrase "send in the tanks", as that was the position taken by many leftists during rebellions against Soviet domination in Eastern Europe.
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Ian Handernure - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:43:41 EST FqRGTRMQ No.56511 Reply
>>56510
Oh. They still exist?

You'd think they'd gone extinct ever since all the former-communist countries turned into even-more-hypercapitalist-than-western-countries.

Diktatoreco de la Proletaro

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- Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:11:15 EST fzaa44hX No.56473
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Who makes up the history curriculum for American high schools?
Today I just learned about the history of primaries, and how our political system became more democratic from a short 3 minute youtube video. Something so crucial was never once touched upon in any history class I ever took.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r41imlvr4hs
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Rebecca Dellynot - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:28:46 EST 3nMGUWmW No.56478 Reply
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I took AP Euro and AP US history in high school. We also had a very passionate teacher for 9th grade Civics. So I am very well informed in western history and the foundations and principles behind the US government system.

Fuck, during WW2 lessons, my AP US teacher went so far as to draw comparisons between the policies and propaganda of FDR and Hitler (Eagles everywhere)

I learned more about these subjects in high school than I did at college.
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Cornelius Clonningway - Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:26:34 EST mu32eWKW No.56497 Reply
>>56476

And they think social security is socialism.
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Nicholas Didgestone - Sat, 13 Feb 2016 21:26:42 EST slEOrfVs No.56498 Reply
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>>56497
Social security is arguably the only truly socialist element of the USA. A state pension system? Sure sounds socialist to me.

cold war era history

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- Mon, 08 Feb 2016 04:17:04 EST guM++aHN No.56470
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i am really interested in world history during the cold war era, and I want to learn more when it come to the history of Africa, South America, and the Middle east during this time in particular. Any books you /his/torians recommend?
In fact, just dump whatever links/books/articles/pictures whatever relating to cold war era history.
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Lillian Clayforth - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 09:46:52 EST FqRGTRMQ No.56472 Reply
I don't know any books, but I do know some interesting bits to research.

The CIA disposed of the legitimate democratic Indonesian government (after that government started playing out the USA and the Soviet Union, for economic and political gains and to remain neutral) by giving lots of money to a military commander, which resulted into a coup, after which that military commander decided to "root out" communism by killing millions of people.
The irony was, the USA had helped that same Indonesian government into power by telling the Dutch government to back the fuck off, because after the Nazis were defeated in WW2, the first thing the Dutch government did after the Dutch military and navy was back on its feet, was send soldiers to Indonesia to crush any rebellion against Dutch rule (since the Japanese had destroyed the Dutch forces stationed in Indonesia and had supported Indonesian nationalist ideas). The US government basically insulted the Dutch government by comparing their military actions in Indonesia with the Nazis (which wasn't far off, because here in the Netherlands, photographs of mass graves and Indonesians being tortured among the possessions of former colonial soldiers that passed away are discovered with some frequency).
Anyway, the comparisons with the Nazis and the political pressure from other countries and from the people themselves (for a lot of Dutch people, the military actions in Indonesia had a bitter aftertaste because they still remembered the Nazis) caused the Dutch government to give the Indonesian people the freedom they deserved. And then the CIA dicked it all to hell.

Also, a genuine conspiracy theory. During the Six-Day-War, the Israeli navy and Israeli airforce tried to sink a US navy vessel the USS Liberty in international waters, near Egypt. It is claimed to be a mistake... but some people claim it was a trick to pull the USA into the Six-Day-War - which failed since the ship didn't sink, and not all crewmen died in the bombing and torpedo-ing.

why not make history?

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- Sun, 03 Jan 2016 06:06:34 EST np0s4HuY No.56385
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Cyril Droddlechock - Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:47:19 EST vuu302UU No.56427 Reply
lol so many boards and you shit post here, why? Do you have a system?

I'll humor you.
History is made by historiographers, I studied CS instead. That's my excuse.


PIRACY ----- DIARY ACCOUNTS?

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- Thu, 19 Nov 2015 08:44:33 EST Xu0VoTIh No.56305
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I am lead to believe that a high number of seamen in the 17th, 18th centuries were illiterate.
I want to know about the lives of pirates and the motives for their independence. People are strange and historical accounts of piracy don't tell me enough about what was going on in the minds of people sailing outside of navies/designated trading companies

SO:----- can anyone link me sources of first hand accounts from pirates? (those not affiliated with particular countries or corporations sailing 1600-1850 or thereabouts.... North African, European; diaries or anything else relevant would be great)
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Simon Haddlefick - Fri, 20 Nov 2015 21:47:52 EST fFCl/TFP No.56313 Reply
>>56308

BS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Bellamy

"Captain Charles Johnson, a pseudonym,[Note 1] wrote what became the first standard historical text on pirates, A General History of the Robberies and Murders of the Most Notorious Pyrates. That source relates the story of the Whydah overtaking a sloop commanded by Captain Beer. Bellamy had wanted to let the captain keep his ship, but his crew had just voted to burn it, and the captain of the merchant vessel had just declined an invitation to join the pirates. Bellamy is attributed with making this now-famous speech:
Gold recovered from the wreck of the Whydah. Forbes ranked Bellamy #1 in its list of "Top-Earning Pirates".[12]

"I am sorry they won't let you have your sloop again, for I scorn to do any one a mischief, when it is not to my advantage; damn the sloop, we must sink her, and she might be of use to you. Though you are a sneaking puppy, and so are all those who will submit to be governed by laws which rich men have made for their own security; for the cowardly whelps have not the courage otherwise to defend what they get by knavery; but damn ye altogether: damn them for a pack of crafty rascals, and you, who serve them, for a parcel of hen-hearted numbskulls. They vilify us, the scoundrels do, when there is only this difference, they rob the poor under the cover of law, forsooth, and we plunder the rich under the protection of our own courage. Had you not better make then one of us, than sneak after these villains for employment?"


  [Beer replied that his conscience would not let him break the laws of God and man, and Bellamy continued]

"You are a devilish conscience rascal! I am a free prince, and I have as much authority to make war on the whole world as he who has a hundred sail of ships at sea and an army of 100,000 men in the field; and this my conscience tells me! But there is no arguing with such snivelling puppies, who allow superiors to kick them about deck at pleasure."

Samuel Bellamy could be considered a proto-anarchist. That speech shows that there was more going on in his head than just "Well fuck, I don't have any other options, might as well be a pirate." He opted to become a pirate rather than remain in the Royal Navy.

Just because you cling to safety doesn't mean there aren't people who would choose adventure and danger instead, for whatever reason
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Reuben Bavingfack - Sat, 19 Dec 2015 00:19:05 EST fxAlAqC/ No.56375 Reply
>>56313

Life in the Royal Navy was very very shit. I'm pretty sure that Bellamy himself was tricked into joining up with a merchant fleet, then was sold to the king of Spain as a sailor (obviously you couldn't run away from a ship at sea, so 'impressing' people into service aboard disease ridden ships was common). He and his friends stole the ship they were captive aboard and fucked off to the Carribean.

The pirate thing in the 17th-18th centuries was really a revolt of sailors against their shitty living conditions, and the tyranny of the captains.
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Phoebe Suppershit - Sat, 19 Dec 2015 04:54:11 EST 2Ys9d91S No.56377 Reply
"A ship is worse than a gaol. There is, in a gaol, better air, better company, better conveniency of every kind; and a ship has the additional disadvantage of being in danger."

Communes

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- Mon, 09 Nov 2015 04:28:17 EST h1qRarnt No.56273
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Do you have some early examples of what the geological structure of various settlements looks like in your countries?
I know about the roman Villa-system and the parish-system but I would like to know more, but most of all I'd like to be able to imagine what it was like living in the countryside a couple of hundred years ago.
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Hedda Blankinheg - Wed, 18 Nov 2015 17:28:18 EST ao2CDAbf No.56304 Reply
>>56277
Thanks for the input! Going to read it properly whenever I have time
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Archie Nettingcocke - Sun, 27 Dec 2015 04:10:43 EST Ke4N2zAw No.56382 Reply
>>56277
apparently they forgot to mention the intense tribal raiding endemic to almost every tribal society. either that or they swallowed the myth of the noble savage and don't even know what they don't even know
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Nell Shakeworth - Sun, 27 Dec 2015 18:38:54 EST 6PhWCkVP No.56383 Reply
I'm absolutely fascinated with the early history of my area. I'm from the Midwest and my area was populated by mound building cultures going back three millennia. In fact, there is a reconstructed village from a thousand years ago in my area.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunWatch_Indian_Village
The village is from the misnamed Fort Ancient culture, the last prehistoric Indian culture in the region and possibly the progenitors of the Shawnee (who inhabited the area during and after European contact). They lived in semi-permanent, circular villages and relied on hunting and basic agriculture. The time was one of decline for these people; Nutrition was piss poor and health problems were rampant. people, apparently, cannot subsist on maize and venison alone
Speaking of mound builders, the prehistoric cultures of the lower Midwest built earthworks EVERYWHERE. Researching them is absolutely depressing, because most of them were callously destroyed by 19th century rednecks who couldn't see past their own noses. I recently looked at a site in my area and found precious little evidence the place even existed. Although that prehistoric site is adjacent to a historic farm that includes a bit of canal, an early homestead and a dank, creepy old pioneer cemetery (something else very common in this area)

While the native history of my area is neglected and also interesting to me, I am also into the pioneer history of the area. I volunteer on and off at a tavern built in 1803 that has been restored to its early appearance. I've also visited a few old log cabins and the like from the same period. One thing of note in the early history of my area is the chain of forts built during punitive expeditions undertaken by the US government in the 1790s. The local tribes were quite butthurt about the fact that crackers were squatting on their turf, so they went full Tecumseh and started scalping people. Obviously the government wasn't thrilled about this and undertook a series of expeditions to remove corn. The first couple tries were an absolute disaster; A ragtag group of Kentucky militiamen and hired ruffians cobbled together and sent in the general direction of the enemy by incompetent old AWI laureates. Fort Recovery was the site of two engagements on two different campaigns and hosts an excellent museum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Indian_War

I wish i was enough of an expert on either pioneer or Indian lifestyles and the minutia of their ways of life to give a more in depth post. If anyone has questions, I'll do my best to field them.

Afghanistan

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- Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:46:25 EST kl+oZI1v No.53515
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/his/ I desperately need your help. Can you direct me to every single website, book, article, and documentary dealing with the Taliban, Soviet War in Afghanistan, 90s Afghanistan, and the current Afghan war. I especially need stuff pertaining to the culture and general attitude of the people of Afghanistan, especially the Taliban. The topic is endlessly fascinating to me and I need to write a huge paper on it for my Poli Sci class. The paper is about the current war being unwinnable, but I want to do a very broad historical analysis.

Also I'm bored and would love some learning material. I'm a little in over my head on this topic though so please help. Thanks!

Also general Afghanistan discussion very much welcome.
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Graham Tootbanks - Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:50:18 EST TSkgdi01 No.56331 Reply
>>56247
One man's invasion is another man's peace keeping mission. The Soviet combat mission was the direct result of political instability at the top though. According to some in the Soviet infantry, it turned into a war when soldiers traded fire with the people they were trying to steal from.

>>56330
People end up in stranger places, but why would you ask that?
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Emma Basslewid - Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:01:55 EST pb+LkI1P No.56338 Reply
>>56331
I just see an overlap in ideology and geography and I'm fascinated by major personalities in armed conflict. Also I've just got a bone for the kurdish state and marxism
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Eliza Brimmergold - Fri, 18 Dec 2015 17:44:19 EST mnly+Hia No.56372 Reply
>>53515
I don't think the goal of any of the western conflicts in the middle east is to "win", as in conquer, simply to destabilise the region to prevent any one faction there from acheiving hegemony. In that view, the recent conflicts in the region have been pretty successful.

Ancient places illustrated. (reconstructed, etc)

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- Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:58:12 EST IxoNeK5Z No.54295
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Accurate depictions, artistic representations and interpretations ITT!

Depicted is the Roman forum, as reconstructed via artist's illustration., it's crazy to think this was a real place occupied by people and it worked.
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Shitting Brookbanks - Sun, 06 Dec 2015 00:00:22 EST pIYqIk9c No.56357 Reply
Does anyone have any cityscapes of the ancient city of Babylon?

IOCVS NOVA ROMANA

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- Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:55:59 EST AmRcgwkf No.56307
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Any Nova Romans on the board please help a brother out and explain what the organization/country/whatever is because your website doesn't answer much
Sorry for shit thread
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Lillian Gonningbanks - Sat, 05 Dec 2015 08:05:10 EST yoS4oQiI No.56355 Reply
>>56348
They're just at a theme restaurant. He's the waiter.
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Oliver Soblingspear - Sat, 05 Dec 2015 13:43:01 EST 46Ivwr3B No.56356 Reply
>>56355

tfw when this thread has been native advertising for a restaurant called Nova Roma.

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