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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Sanhedrin Trial of Jesus

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- Wed, 28 Oct 2015 23:53:49 EST rQpSY5J5 No.56236
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>Thereafter, in Pilate's Court, the Jewish elders ask Pontius Pilate to judge and condemn Jesus–accusing him of claiming to be the King of the Jews.

Pontius Pilate should have pardonned Jesus Christ of Nazareth. For Reasons
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Clara Blablingstone - Sat, 07 Nov 2015 00:32:25 EST CBu3jKCh No.56261 Reply
They actually executed quite a few people for being "the king of the Jews", which basically meant they were leading a movement to secede from Rome, most of which are recorded in the Talmud. Jesus is too but they don't say nice things about him.

On a weird tinfoily side note, the first google result when googling this is a paid ad slandering the author I learned this from, but the tenants of Jewish faith and their extensive record keeping doesn't lie and it is actually pretty well recorded on both the Jewish and Roman sides.
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Hedda Lightgold - Mon, 16 Nov 2015 12:07:03 EST gJYbFbIL No.56298 Reply
Well according to the gospel of nicodemus, the jews came to pilate and say this man heals bitches on the Sabbath, he's from Beelzebub, sorcering up some demons, go fuck him up
Pilate be like naw son that's Asclepius brah
Then jesus comes in and pilate be like did u make this jew's wife trip in her dream by ur sorcery
Jesus says Nah man let em finish
The jew elders say mary wasn't a virgin, he was born in bethlehem by killing children, and that mary and joseph fled to egypt because they could not face the people
Then half of the jews go back on this and say mary's a virgin and the other half be like these are greeks that have converted they don't really count
So pilate decides to only talk to the born jews and asks if he did a good deed should he die
and they're like yea
So the jews be all We wouldn't have brought him here if he wasn't fucked
We can't kill anyone legally. You do it.
Pilate ask jesus Yo u claimin king
Jesus spit who the fuck said that sht
Pilate be all what u really do bro
Jesus gets all emo for a second and goes "my kingdom doesn't exist on earth or else the jews wouldn't want me dead"
Pilate asks if he's king
Jesus be like I was born king so all u truth hear me word up
Pilate goes back to the jews and be like he's spotless
The jews say that jesus promised to destroy solomon's temple and rebuild it in 3 days
Then pilate whites out again and gives in to the jews, whereupon they take responsibility, and then he asks how to punish them,and they be like crucifixion son and then pilates like naw he dont deserve that
So he asks em again and the jews are like he needs to die because he called himself son of god and a king
So nicodemus comes up and he's like Fuck that, This nigga like moses, let 'm go
Then the jews are like No ur just on his side ur his disciple
And nicodemus be all Pilate backed this nigga up too and Caesar's got his back
Then the jews curse him in anger to recieve his truth and his portion
Nicodemus be all bring it
So later on in breadfest pilate's askin the greek jews which prisoner they want dead or free, between a murderer and jesus and they say they want jesus dead.
A woman comes up and says jesus's touch made my period stop, and the jews are like we have a law that women can't testify
And pilate's all salty and he's like You guys some twisted fuckbois. Y'all were spoiled as fuck in exodus and y'all got ur whole culture from that shit.
But then the jews are like because jesus' fuckin parents left town when we were herod's captives, all the hebrew children got killed over the prophecy. This is the guy.
So pilate's like ok you know what this ain't on me, but i'mma let it happen
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Archie Nammlefield - Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:37:01 EST Gt4Vgf31 No.56333 Reply
An interesting account of this historic scene was given in Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita. It was also adapted into a Russian miniseries that showed the adaptation. It was really interesting. It portrayed Pontius Pilate as talking with Jesus at length and coming to really like him, but he was still forced to execute Jesus because of political pressure from the jews.

Sovetunio

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- Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:19:10 EST SbLL3rxd No.56270
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Why were Esperantists in Eastern Europe forced to hide their language during the cold war?
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Lydia Chuzzletodge - Tue, 10 Nov 2015 23:18:27 EST pIYqIk9c No.56281 Reply
I have no idea but I would like to know. Apparently the soviet union supported it early on but from 1930 onwards they started shooting people and putting them in labor camps for advocating its use. Weird.
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Polly Gossleman - Wed, 11 Nov 2015 05:34:02 EST nFUrmaNy No.56284 Reply
>>56270

Because it's an abomination designed to strip people from their cultures, while removing them from the powers of words. Fuck Esperanto.
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Angus Berrykure - Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:15:50 EST eiH1WIkz No.56297 Reply
Because if it's international it better also be socialist and if the party can't control it, it's bad.

Alexander the Great

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:56:23 EST Dv4EQMVh No.50164
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Alexander has to be one of the most enigmatic characters in history. On one hand the sheer magnitude and glory of his accomplishments has to set him amongst the greatest and most succesful men who have ever lived, but on the other hand he was something of a cruel and vindictive megalomaniac with a murderous temper. In the west he's one of our greatest heroes, but in the east he's known as 'the two horned devil'.

How do you all feel about the great man himself?
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no homer - Tue, 03 Nov 2015 04:10:05 EST t9ossodW No.56250 Reply
>>50164
As if the gay lobby didn't make up that all the greeks were gay to make their gayness seem okay.

Stone statue of alexander sucking cock or it didn't happen.
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Betsy Brookgold - Thu, 05 Nov 2015 23:40:29 EST pIYqIk9c No.56258 Reply
okay so I bought the aleander biography by plutarch and also the fictionalized story of his relationship with bagoas called The Persian Boy

ready 4 superior form of love

German government is/was confusing

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- Mon, 26 Oct 2015 21:16:18 EST HudvzGAi No.56228
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What are the differences between Kaiser, President, Chancellor, and Fuehrer?
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Hedda Gockleten - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:46:26 EST 46Ivwr3B No.56232 Reply
>>56231

The then reigning president had essentially established that precedent when he assumed control of a military dictatorship in WWI, and overruled the Kaiser. Thanks to some early battlefield successes, he was elected president of Weimar. He was also suffering from senility.
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David Sodgelere - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:12:32 EST HudvzGAi No.56234 Reply
>>56232
Yeah I heard Hindenburg was kind of forced to do it, plus he was senile.
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Augustus Murdhood - Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:10:35 EST QhbJyx2S No.56243 Reply
People in this thread have no idea.

The Kaiser was the German emperor, there were other kings below him (Bavaria and Saxony) and he himself was king of Prussia. The president of the republic was more of a figurehead and the chancellor actually did like 90% of all political work. The president just had to sign off laws and reforms and had to declare the winner of elections the new chancellor (well unless 1932). Führer was just a title the nazis came up with during the 20s. When Hindenburg died in 1934 the dictatorship was already strong enough to say "Hey, now the chancellor should just take over the president's powers, too and we call him Führer".

History of Bengal

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- Sat, 24 Oct 2015 04:28:05 EST qleMGbH6 No.56221
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What do you guys think of the history of Bengal? Know anything about it? Got any good reading material on it?

The region is an interesting mix of Indo-European, Austronesian, Dravidian, and Sino-tibetan racial types. It has a mix (or in modern times, a bifurcation) of Hindu and Muslim culture with a shared language although it has a ton of distinct dialects.

I personally find it fascinating. Everything from the history of early Buddhism in the area, to the introduction of Sufi Islam into the region and the development of Hinduism during the medieval period, to the British conquest and the Bengal Renaissance, to the 1947 partition and 1971 war of independence.

You learn a lot about subcontinental center-periphery relations, and the dynamics of religious spread and interaction when you read about Bengal. Plus its a highly artistic and literary culture, which is just wonderful if you an aesthete.

What do you guys think?
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Augustus Bollybury - Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:46:43 EST WBy4CtY7 No.56223 Reply
And it's not going to exist for much longer thanks to global warming
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Jack Dugglesutch - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:38:58 EST fkwhQn7d No.56235 Reply
No idea, but now I'm inspired to learn more about it! I recently looked a bit at Sri Lankan antique history. I'm going to need an actual book about it though.

Brass and/or Copper Effigy

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- Mon, 26 Oct 2015 23:48:13 EST HG5zdpC2 No.56229
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Hello /HIS/, It's been a very long time since I last posted on here, so please forgive me if I mess anything up...
I recently purchased two small, brass (or copper), horse-like figurines from a small estate sale. I myself have a degree in anthropology/archeology and feel as though these pieces may have historical and/or cultural significance, but do not know where to start in regards to research. Both of these figurines seem very old based upon their patina, and each features a square hole on their underside.
My question to you is this: Has anyone ever seen anything like these? Are they some type of effigy or ceremonial item? Can anyone identify the type of animal these items portray? Any help would be greatly appreciated even if they do turn out to be simply junk.
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Augustus Nicklestone - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:20:37 EST /F/VROSe No.56233 Reply
Cool thumbnail. 19th or 20th Century tat would be my first guess. The older they are, the less likely those fine holes are to have survived intact. It looks like lost-wax casting and the holes at the bottom may suggest production in volume. You'd want to talk to someone who knows about casting about that though.

Drug using presidents?

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- Mon, 26 Oct 2015 15:54:50 EST fZ3DK8Em No.56227
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Post quotes from (possible) drug using presidents

>Habayit Hayehudi MK Betzalel Smotrich asked Netanyahu: "Why do you even talk to (Palestinian President Mahmoud) Abbas? Why pull the world's leg?" Netanyahu responded by saying that Israel "is not talking to bin Laden or ISIS, but I will talk to whoever isn't calling for our destruction."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.682374

BIN LADEN IS DEAD! lols

Thunk about it

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- Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:15:19 EST GVgszkte No.56211
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So im drunk.and was thinking about cartoons that had good songs.like famly guy or sponge bob.think about it!

Crazy Kings and Leaders

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- Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:43:46 EST IIEMocfo No.54643
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Any instances of leaders/kings slowly going insane and losing their minds?

Cambyses was one, the Cambyses who was the son of the Cyrus that beseiged Sardis.

Basically, the guy slowly went insane and made his army continue to march against a mythical tribe of Africans in the woods while his troops converted to cannibalism due to ration shortage. Or that time that he shot an advisor's son with a bow and arrow because he disagreed with him being an alcoholic? Or how about that time that he decided to kill his own brother because he had a dream? Or when he killed his own wife because of something she said at the dinner table? Or how about that time he started burning shit in the temple of Hephaistos?

He was probably the only king who didn't give a fuck about the hellenistic gods, or any for that matter, because he was crazy.
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Ghengis Dong - Tue, 13 Oct 2015 20:31:41 EST 2egVTEgC No.56189 Reply
>>56188
>XVIII. To endeavour to speak with her fasting, and that she may tell them some matter at length, so that they may see whether her breath be sweet.
Could never come near to her fasting, but at other times have approached her visage as nigh as they conveniently could, but never felt any savour of spices, and believe her to be of a sweet savour.
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Cyril Chennerway - Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:52:59 EST 5ADmKFCq No.56208 Reply
The Ottoman Sultans had a crazy one in their line, Ibrahim the mad. Can't really recall any specific stories but modern psychoanalysts would have a field day with his diagnosis
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Cyril Chennerway - Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:15:46 EST 5ADmKFCq No.56209 Reply
>>55158

Tamerlane wasn't crazy

His campaigns were brutal as fuck yes, but he didn't exhibit any mental issues and we actually have primary sources of Timur and his court, unlike all the turco-mongol raiders before him. You could argue that he was a fanatic islamist zealot but it seems more that his hardcore muslimness was a means for him to legitimize his rule, just like when he made the dubious claim that he descended from Chingis Khan. He was a peasant nobody, he needed to legitimize his rule among the turco mongol armies and claiming to be "The Sword of Islam" and a descendant of Genghis were ways for him to do that. Not sure where you got the idea he was a crazy.

Help with identification

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- Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:27:23 EST 02zvB8Ms No.56153
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Hi. This was in our basement. I must have looked at it a bunch of times, but today I noticed the cross at the top and realized it had some sort of nefarious association. Sure enough, I looked it up and it is an "Iron Cross"(proper noun?). Is there some reason it was placed on top of an America flag? Was this flag a grave marker? My grandfather fought during the time of the Wars, and has since died.(all I could think of)
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Beatrice Bunwater - Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:55:30 EST 4u9Cq0MQ No.56192 Reply
>>56191

>tfw when Europe is going to belong to the Muslims anyways in a few decades
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A Wizard - Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:36:40 EST /HWjT0P7 No.56197 Reply
>>56163

Omfg... "Ger-Man"

All of the fuckers you're talking about all Germans. The existence of various political regimes does not effect the ethnicity that is the Germanic ethic group.

But yeah, the Christians really fucked up europe.
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Phyllis Fevingtit - Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:38:46 EST VbnwhOqz No.56201 Reply
>>56191

You probably mean
>got their asses saved by Poles in the last moment

Historical tidbits

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- Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:49:39 EST taGtMpGl No.56183
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Indentured servitude was common in the Swedish countryside (predominantly in the south) up until the 1930's and it wasn't outlawed until 1945.

Medieval armies

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- Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:57:12 EST LQxCuB8k No.53765
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You are in medieval times, you have full command of an army of your choosing, any type of composition. What do you choose? What is your army

> Main force consists of cataphract type shock cavalry and horse archers
> Light cavalry for distraction and hit and run purposes
> Heavy spearmen to hold the line, readied for hammer and anvil
> Longbow men behind spearmen shooting down ranks
> Cavalry and archer based armies are the best
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A Wizard - Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:18:01 EST /HWjT0P7 No.56179 Reply
>>56174

The thing about this, is that in Philip's and Alexander's armies, there would had been a division or two of skirmishers who run about flinging a few javelins and then are used to fill the gaps when a heavier division can't keep it's footing and needs a moment to reform. Further, they had light cavalry to stop maneuvers like the one mentioned below.
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Clara Nullerdudging - Fri, 09 Oct 2015 18:35:32 EST 46Ivwr3B No.56180 Reply
>>56179

>The Romans had placed the two legions in the middle, with the allied Latin, Italian and Greek infantry on their flanks. The cavalry was placed on the wings, with the Roman right being supplemented by 22 elephants.

>The phalanx took up the center of the Macedonian line, with the elite 3,000-strong Guard formed to the left of the phalanx. Lighter peltasts, mercenaries and Thracian infantry guarded the two flanks of the phalanx, while the Macedonian cavalry was also most probably arrayed on both flanks. The stronger contingent was on the Macedonian right, where Perseus commanded the heavy cavalry (including his elite Sacred Squadron), and the Thracian Odrysian cavalry were deployed. However, other sources state that the cavalry did not participate in the fight, as there was a strike against Perseus by the nobles.

They had literally every element they needed, but the nobles took a dive.
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A Wizard - Sat, 10 Oct 2015 03:53:15 EST /HWjT0P7 No.56181 Reply
>>56180

Hmm, well, the Macedonians were known for talking shit to the Thracians, and the Thracians well known for saying "Fuck you, we quit. Let's go raid the neighbors."

But here's the reason they lost. They sent their main force in first, against a legionary army. You don't do that, and they should had known better.

Cold War General Thread

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- Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:56:03 EST 6nKr2p8x No.54044
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The concepts of MAD and proxy wars obsess me. Let's have a thread focusing on cold war era geopolitics, and also have a look at the culture of the time and different points of view that each country had.

Kissinger critiquing the concept of total war and calling for americans to focus on conventional warfare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SJikzUwwOY
The build up to the cold war with an empathsis on the British point of view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SJikzUwwOY
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Molly Shakeford - Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:43:05 EST K//zrI33 No.56142 Reply
You want to explore proxy wars and MAD all you have to do is look to the situation in the middle East that has been manipulated by the Americans, the Saudi Arabians and the Israelis
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Edward Socklenick - Tue, 22 Sep 2015 22:45:25 EST yNa7lnyO No.56143 Reply
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>>56142
Don't forget to include the Indian peninsula into that mix, to help put it into an even bigger and thus better yours versus ours MAD players, like India, Pakistan, and one day even Sril Lanka. Such mad MAD policies all around the globe is amazingly mad.
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Fanny Worthingstock - Wed, 23 Sep 2015 01:30:02 EST 1qEdrkTE No.56145 Reply
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Just read "A Failed Empire: The Soviet Union in the Cold War from Stalin to Gorbachev" by Vladislav Zubok, which covers Soviet foreign policy and political history excellently. Zubok, as far as I know, coined a term for the near-constant premise of Soviet foreign policy called "Revolutionary-Imperialist paradigm", which assumed the imminent collapse of the liberal capitalist order and that armed with Marx's "scientific theory", Soviet diplomats and statesman were superior to their Western counterparts.

I'm interested what everyone's perspective is on Mikael Gorbachev? I had always looked up to Gorbachev as a peacemaker and liberal idealist, but wowza did this book convincingly paint his tenure as characterized by chaos and naivety! After the mid-80's he wouldn't use force in practically any circumstance, whether to quell protests or defeat rebels or just bulwark the state (the only pacifistic world leader perhaps in world history). He also winged almost all of his domestic and foreign policy, often resulting in failure or decentralization due to inadequate planning.

Also, Raymond Garthoff's tomes on the Cold War from Nixon to Reagan are phenomenal, probably some of the most incisive and even-handed Cold War histories ever written.

>>55913
Zubok's book corroborates that Mao's puritanism and ideological radicalism were a constant thorn on the side of the Soviet foreign policy. He suggested that Mao's China resented heavily the Soviets' international stature and how they dominated the communist world, so they'd constantly undermine (relative) Soviet pragmatism.

chile actuality

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- Fri, 18 Sep 2015 20:56:23 EST QRpA4hY7 No.56134
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Well since this os Pol .im asking what exactly pinochet did? I KNOW some things,but my cousin said that he did nothing wrong...anyway feom a neutral opinion,what exactly he did,bad or good.I know chile its one of The most expensives places to live...so lets go
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Buck Strickland - Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:38:02 EST OE1PGRtd No.56138 Reply
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>>56134
Pinochet assumed power in Chile following a United States-backed coup d'état on 11 September 1973 that overthrew the elected socialist Unidad Popular government of President Salvador Allende and ended civilian rule. Several academics have stated that the support of the United States was crucial to the coup and the consolidation of power afterward.

From its beginning, the new military government implemented harsh measures against its perceived opponents.[8] Various reports and investigations claim that between 1,200 and 3,200 people were killed, up to 80,000 people were interned and as many as 30,000 were tortured during the time Pinochet was in government.[9][10][11] As of 2011, the official number of deaths and forced disappearances stands at 3,065.

Under the influence of the free market-oriented neoliberal "Chicago Boys", the military government implemented economic reforms, including currency stabilization, tariff cutting, opening Chile's markets to global trade, restricting labor unions, privatizing social security, and the privatization of hundreds of state-controlled industries. These policies produced what has been referred to as the "Miracle of Chile," but critics state that the government policies dramatically increased economic inequality.[13] Chile was, for most of the 1990s, the best-performing economy in Latin America, though academics continue to dispute the legacy of Pinochet's reforms

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