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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated March 20)
Books on Persia by Rebecca Crackleson - Tue, 02 Aug 2016 08:21:39 EST ID:vClVXRJl No.56796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ancient, medieval or early modern (up to 1800sish). Ancient and medieval much preferred.

I've read Persian Fire. More like it would be nice. Nothing overly academic. I like academic writing but not when it bores you to fucking tears. A nice balance between popular history and scholarly work a la Norman Davies would be nice. Any suggestions?
Polly Snodson - Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:04:26 EST ID:voF9xOxC No.56797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Herodot has a bunch of chapters on the Persians and those are counted as some of the oldest trustworthy reports.
Albert Sogglebog - Sun, 07 Aug 2016 17:15:51 EST ID:4RNy1lDa No.56798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I don't think you'll get much other then Herodotus and the bible lol jk . I herd the Scythians and Masagatae would smoke weed and then eat their dead friends, but they aren't Persian.
Basil Fuckingstone - Sun, 07 Aug 2016 18:21:54 EST ID:PMeC+LId No.56799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Shahnameh is supposed to be good. It follows the Persian dynasties from the heroic age to the Sassanian, ending with the apocalyptic coming of the army of darkness (a thinly veiled reference to Islam).
Ghengis Dong - Tue, 09 Aug 2016 19:28:54 EST ID:bDCXJ98b No.56800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Shahnameh is a masterwork. Unfortunately the only complete english version has been out of print for almost a century (Edmund and Arthur Warner) except for limited University press editions and comes on 9 volumes. Certain volumes are more difficult to find than others, but I realized it's going to be years and expense before I have a complete copy.

It's available fully online in Farsi, but it's middle persian and pretty difficult (And I speak modern Farsi) It's not exactly what you're asking for but anything written by Boyce is good (She mostly covers theology) and iranicaonline should lead you to some pretty good publications
Cedric Chisslebury - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 06:21:29 EST ID:pVYtgfqQ No.56804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn is there really no popular history book on this marvelous civilization? I didn't think it'd be that obscure a topic
Polly Bommlekan - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:47:59 EST ID:+/WD3mZ4 No.56809 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yep, it wasnt mentioned in 4 replies to your 420chan/his/ thread so there is none in the whole world
Hamilton Clodgemure - Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:50:41 EST ID:SAulef67 No.56812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How fucking insightful.
Cyril Doblingdale - Wed, 14 Sep 2016 17:10:26 EST ID:Yt0MTGo3 No.56861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>ending with the apocalyptic coming of the army of darkness (a thinly veiled reference to Islam).

*reference to Arabs

Ferdowsi was in all likelihood a Shi'a Muslim with some rather syncretic tendencies.

At least for many traditional Iranian Shi'a, there's not a whole lot of conflict between being Muslim and seeing the conquest of Persia by the Muslims as a great tragedy or an unjust war on the part of the Arabs, as the conquests were led by the caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab and later the Omayyad dynasty starting with the third caliph, Uthman. All these figures are regarded as heretics by the Shi'a faith and at least the Omayyads came to be regarded even by the Sunni orthodoxy as having deviated, with many early Muslim rebellions against them being led by Persian converts, including many who would eventually support the Abbassid coup. The Shahnameh was read by both Sunni and Shi'a but was held especially dear by Shi'a in Iran for many reasons, including religious ones as it basically became sort of part of the Iranian Shi'a canon with the stories of the pre-Islamic Persian kings recited along with the sayings and deeds of the great Shi'a Muslim saints.

Ferdowsi likely saw his work as a way of preserving Iranian heritage against Arab cultural and political domination and also saw it as a service to his own individual approach to the Shi'a faith, which was one which mixed itself freely with many of the pre-Islamic Zoroastrian traditions.
Eliza Fibbernat - Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:53:25 EST ID:Yt0MTGo3 No.56864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Pic related should be your first book. It covers both Pre-Islamic and Islamic Persia in some detail and is generally free of bias.
Eliza Fibbernat - Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:11:50 EST ID:Yt0MTGo3 No.56865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This book might also be fun for the 420ch crowd in particular. It covers the dynamics and religious politics of the use of alcohol and tobacco as well as drugs like hashish & opium in the context of later Iranian empire during the Shi'a period. It covers some early uses of substances during the pre-Islamic era and Sunni period but mostly focuses on the Shi'i Safavid and Qajar dynasties.

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