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- Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:20:43 EST p5WQwFa3 No.55764
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So /his/tory I'm in a bit of a bad position here.

I love history and I always was among the top of my classes, however I do not know historical dates at all.

I can tell you about the cold war but can't say the year vietnam started and ended - same with Korea.
I can tell you that WW2 ended in May of 1945 but only because I can "reconstruct" the date based on my knowledge like:
> WW2 ended in 1945 > WW2 ended with the Soviets taking Berlin > the Soviets took Berlin in May because they wanted it in time for May-Day

So how do I tackle that issue? Is there a list of dates worth learning raging from Ancient to modern times (can be Euro-centric af I don't mind)?
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Sidney Wackledine - Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:49:35 EST hT3/Evlt No.55765 Reply
Don't stress about dates. You can always look them up.

Focus more on themes and trends and people.
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John Channerstock - Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:03:26 EST 62eQYUmt No.55766 Reply
Don't be a sucker OP. The only reason you're even asking about dates is because of how you were tested at your shit tier school. Unless you're going to use the information, like maybe you want to learn a lot about US intervention policy in South Asia, dates are as trivial as it gets.
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Molly Blunningpuck - Thu, 18 Jun 2015 04:46:38 EST BVTE1kEf No.55767 Reply
>>55764
Who cares about dates.
What's important is to know the sequence of events and more-or-less when what happened. For example, the war in Europe ended in spring, the World War ended in autumn, Soviet Union fell somewhere in1992, Korean War was before Vietnam and disastrous 5-year plan was sometime in early 1930's.
etc etc
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Rebecca Denningkun - Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:05:14 EST p5WQwFa3 No.55770 Reply
>> The only reason you're even asking about dates is because of how you were tested at your shit tier school

Not really, as I said my grades in History were good (because I never needed dates) but I'm afraid that at University I might end up looking like a fool for not knowing some basic shit.
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Sidney Wackledine - Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:29:40 EST hT3/Evlt No.55771 Reply
>>55770
Like I said, you can always look up dates. The exact date an historical event happened is arguably the least relevant piece of information you can have about that event. As long as you know roughly the decade and in relation to what major historical undercurrent it was a part of, e.g. the Crusades, the Protestant Reformation, the War of the Roses, etc. etc.
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Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:53:27 EST O8llsErw No.55773 Reply
>>55764
>can't say the year vietnam started and ended
>same with Korea.
Neither can the Americans, Vietnamese, or the Koreans
;)
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Charlotte Pankinforth - Thu, 18 Jun 2015 21:27:55 EST Evi2rzk7 No.55775 Reply
>>55771

>As long as you know roughly the decade and in relation to what major historical undercurrent it was a part of, e.g. the Crusades, the Protestant Reformation, the War of the Roses, etc. etc.

This is basically it. You're pretty much fine so long as you don't say stuff like the Crusades happened in 1936 because Napoleon wanted to annex Serbia in East Africa to mine Opium to keep his mistresses satisfied.

Novel-worthy alternate history nb
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Ebenezer Climblestudge - Fri, 19 Jun 2015 01:50:25 EST WQLSK9rY No.55777 Reply
>>55775
And Knight Templars were Nazis and they crusaded in Japan to find the way into legendary Hourai because Ignatius Loyola, their grandmaster, wanted to be immortal.
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Betsy Tillingham - Fri, 19 Jun 2015 02:22:37 EST fltzrpfs No.55778 Reply
>>55764
As others have said, as long as you're in the ballpark (ie the decade or half century depending on how long ago it happened). However, I do think you should make an effort to memorize extremely important dates like:
>Battle of Salamis (480 BC)
>Death of Julius Ceasar (43)
>Fall of the Western Roman Empire (476)
>Battle of Tours (732)
>Signing of the Magna Carta (1215)
>Beginning of the Black Death (1347)
>Beginning of the Reformation (1517)
>Defeat of Spanish Armada (1588)
>Siege of Vienna (1683)
>America's Independence (1776)
>Waterloo (1815)
>Beginning of WW1 (1914)
>Beginning of WW2 (1939)

That's off the top of my head; there's obviously many more I'm forgetting
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Matilda Pedgesitch - Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:13:16 EST 46Ivwr3B No.55779 Reply
>>55778

Smoked a ton, but I'll leave a fistful of dollars.

I'd say Napoleon's coronation was more important than waterloo, as the illumati couldn't turn back time at that point. The (Arab) Siege of Constantinople over Tours (The defeat of the Arab navy is of a similar impact to Salamis). Since Rome's 476 fall is apocryphal, more appropriate events are the Vandal sack of Rome, Lombard invasion, and ultimately the Great Schism. Don't forget the War of 1812, it ended Britain's treatment of the United States as a Commonwealth nation.


To the Roman list I would add, Augustus's introduction of the Principate, since Caesar was really just another Sulla, Augustus on the other hand introduced an entirely new theme. Also, 1071 Manzikert, 1201, sack of Constantinople, 1453 Ottoman conquest.

Also, mongols, yellow turban rebellion, invention of gunpowder, fucking Jesus Christ, Mohammed, etc.
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Reuben Ninkindot - Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:57:38 EST hT3/Evlt No.55780 Reply
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>>55779
That's why the best advice is to just learn ballparks cause there are so many dates for so many things (and conflicts on those dates even) that it's an exercise in futility. You're studying history, not medicine.
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Hedda Smallwater - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 03:32:09 EST opaI++jW No.55789 Reply
>>55779
what are you saying

fuck napoleon's coronation
fuck waterloo

Vienna was the most important event of that decade, it was the first global world order yo
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Alice Tootforth - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 08:57:28 EST ryIw6mtj No.55790 Reply
>>55789
>Vienna was the most important event of that decade, it was the first global world order yo
And the Battle of Leipzig was more far reaching and decisive in its consequences
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Hedda Smallwater - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:02:56 EST opaI++jW No.55791 Reply
>>55790
who cares. of all the things that happen in wars, battles are least important

all the negotiations, backdoor backstabbing, strategic preparation, propaganda effort etc. mean more then even the greatest battles. war is a fluid process, not a sequence of singular events
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Hugh Worthingfield - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:11:52 EST 46Ivwr3B No.55792 Reply
>>55791

Fo sho.

Napoleon's coronation was the result of not a single battle, but all the spectacular battles preceding put together. Not to mention it gave legitimacy to the Revolution and to Napoleon's political achievements, which would culminate in his dynastic marriage to Austria.

Also as far as battles go, don't forget Borodino. If Napoleon had managed to decisively defeat the Russian army, he might have actually succeeded in his war goals, despite strategic constraints. Waterloo on the other hand is at the extreme end of a strategically unfavorable retrenchment.
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Hedda Smallwater - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:03:23 EST opaI++jW No.55795 Reply
>>55792
Really? Most narratives I've met, both pro- and anti- Napoleonic, are in agreement that Russian campaign was a mistake, and French would have failed regardless of how successful it went. If only due to overextension.
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Hugh Worthingfield - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:29:37 EST 46Ivwr3B No.55804 Reply
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>>55795

The key word is decisive.

Borodino was not a decisive victory for Napoleon. We agree.

>French would have failed regardless of how successful it went

Historians are wrong to use such language. The French should have lost regardless of success.
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Phoebe Fibblebodging - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:39:41 EST V8LqxGoI No.55805 Reply
Thank you for your input and the discussion so far, I really appreciate it.

I'm not trying to memorize a huge list of events but as some of you pointed out ballpark.
Does anyone have a doc or website that provides these?
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Nell Nillydock - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:10:52 EST opaI++jW No.55806 Reply
>>55804
Huh? What's the difference?
Should, would....everyone knows it's all speculation either way

>>55805
wikipedia
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Faggy Pamblenog - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:36:16 EST hT3/Evlt No.55807 Reply
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>>55805
I mean, if you're reading about an historical phenomenon, say the Protestant Reformation. You'll start seeing dates ranging from the early 1500s up until the 1650s. And if you know it begins with Martin Luther posting his 99 Theses and ends with the Peace of Westphalia after the Thirty Years War. Also, learn some key events like the formation of the Church of England in the mid 1500s, the French Wars of Religion in the mid-late 1500s and the Thirty Years War in the early-mid 1600s.

But yeah, study history in themes rather than just going chronologically. Date by date isn't going to help you get any better at History.

How about you tell us what particular periods or epochs or eras of history you're interested in and I'm sure someone will hook you up with the requisite chronological timelines. As of right now, your question is much too broad. You mention WW2 in your OP, while quite unoriginal of you, it is a very studied topic with many resources and timelines at your disposal all over the internet.

I might direct you to begin your study on WW2 not in 1939, not even in 1914, but rather alllllll the way back to 1871 and the Franco-Prussian War. And then move yourself forward so you can get all the nuance of the beautiful game of balance of power politics in Europe and the subsequent Age of Imperialism. All of this feeding directly into WW1 which feeds directly into WW2.
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Nathaniel Beffingspear - Sun, 21 Jun 2015 01:41:03 EST ZP5v6BrQ No.55808 Reply
>>55807
WW2 is a large topic as it is...I'd rather advice OP to study it by themes, like you said

like, read up Hitler's biography if that interests you...or read up about life in soviet Russia, or Annie Frank's diaries, or Japanese expansion into China, or the development of atomic bomb...
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Cedric Dissleput - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:12:16 EST 6BAckMvO No.55828 Reply
>>55770

If your desire is to not appear foolish, then don't actually study shit up with the idea of looking smart in class. Everyone will just think you're annoying since they didn't even bother and either already know it or are actually engaging in the process of learning not memorization.
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Cratira - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 01:07:06 EST wHI9PkXi No.57875 Reply
From my experience Vietnam was a flook that fell with resources. I met a man that was part of a secret war dealing in another region. He lives in a church when I was around, I hope he still does.
Took me 13 years to put all the information together. My fool and I we're fighting about ohh Vietnam was a senseless war. But really what's the worth of fighting.
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Oliver Smallfield - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 11:37:12 EST 0n7WzI3X No.57880 Reply
this thread is circa 2015, which for historical reference was the same year the Saudi's launched their invasion of Yemen, Ireland legalized same sex marriage by popular vote, and Cuba successfully eradicated mother to child transmission of HIV
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Jarvis Summlefuck - Fri, 06 May 2022 12:19:32 EST 6sJ1bLgJ No.58287 Reply
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>>55764
Battle of Milvian Bridge on October 28, 312 AD
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