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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

''Drunk drunk''

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- Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:44:28 EST eSwao+QZ No.283190
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Anybody else feel like they can never get properly drunk anymore? I mean crazy drunk, ''drunk drunk'', truly fucked up. Every time I get anywhere close, I just feel nauseous and don't feel like having any more. It's a curse and a blessing.
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Hugh Chellerstork - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 11:03:23 EST pYuVTxhE No.283213 Reply
Im the same as op but I don't mind. Btw I can still write shit I regret in chats and social media and that's bad enough.
Thomas Wollerdale - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:26:44 EST TeqZwT3U No.283264 Reply
I read that performing in different situations while drinking is a learned skill and so you feel less drunk in a scenario that you're very used to getting drunk in as opposed to getting drunk in new and exciting places.
Aka I can drink like no ones business at home alone but get me in a bar and I feel pretty fucked with half the amount of liquor.
Henry Bubblewater - Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:19:01 EST TIAlaMHU No.283349 Reply
I feel like every time I get truly drunk I just forget everything. I wish I didn't but that's how it is.

What's the worst tasting Vodka on the market?

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- Thu, 17 Oct 2019 19:03:33 EST +ybjfyv+ No.282914
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Hannah Clodgehood - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:10:52 EST Qd1Rx8SY No.283242 Reply
Sobieski is actually quite tasty. Like a good beer would be.
Cyril Fungerdag - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:49:48 EST PaDP+LlP No.283243 Reply

Anyone that doesn't drink their liquor straight is a lil' B IT CH. You can take that to the bank, nigga. I slurp that shit straight outta the bottle. Turkey baster up the ass. Inject that shit into my eyeballs nigga
Henry Bubblewater - Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:16:34 EST TIAlaMHU No.283348 Reply
I'm a bourbon drinker but I've noticed this board really likes vodka. This one time I drank everclear and it fucked with my head how easy I was able to drink it.

Alcohol is the best music drug

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- Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:15:22 EST KgEJ5bfL No.283257
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Anyone else find alcohol really enhances music, more so than most drugs? I also find different drugs make me enjoy different music.

will listen to pretty much anything, but more chill and uplifting music is usually preferred
listen to shoegaze while I move around in non-euclidean space
mostly listen to electronic music but any music as long as its rhythm oriented and energetic
when drunk I listen to historical folk and military music, such as Katyusha or Ein Heller und Ein Batzen, or I listen to goofy, jovial music like Moskau by Genghis Khan. I get really into it and slap my knee, dance and sometimes sing along

pic related is the vibe I get from drinking, I feel like it connects me with history somehow
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James Dublingworth - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 22:44:08 EST Ktx5U+KL No.283284 Reply
For me that would be weed. I feel like I learned to appreciate music due to smoking weed. It was like hearing music for the first time all over again when I was first getting high.
Sid Fuckus - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 18:18:01 EST eOm09Cz4 No.283290 Reply


I have always felt that alcohol is like a religion in a way. Drunk people seem to connect easier or peacefully mourn a lost one where as being sober or high it's a bit more of a hurdle probs because the inhibitions are still there.
William Berryshit - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 01:41:52 EST Dq0RoEG9 No.283315 Reply
I always liked to pull out or remember older music. With YT, music you find soo much more stuff. Yea alcohol and music is defiantly good.

if you are struggling

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- Tue, 26 Nov 2019 17:26:37 EST ThtpAPpg No.283230
File: 1574807197111.jpg -(128444B / 125.43KB, 840x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. if you are struggling
there is alot of talk of Kratom for opiate withdrawal. I just want to let anyone who is actively trying to stop drinking that kratom works as well with alc withdrawal, anxiety and honestly takes care of alot of anxiety that caused me to drink in the first place. Good alternative, ill follow post if anyone needs help navigating and doesnt know where to start on this board.

OP has been shitposting on here and detox for weeks looking for help and this has helped me quite alot. so take care to look into if you are at a breaking point or just ready to stop.
Its probably the closet to sober alot of us will get
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Martha Mindlelet - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 11:15:42 EST KgEJ5bfL No.283266 Reply
Yeah there's a huge drug and homelessness crisis here so they have a special clinic just for addiction. It's helped me a lot with stimulant abuse, cause they give me lisdexamfetamine so I can basically get stimmed at a safe level.
Archie Gemmerbury - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 23:03:54 EST ayQ9BFcB No.283272 Reply
Researchers are only recently discovering the importance that mu-opioids play in our biological feelings of well-being and continued social connectedness. Receptor agonists like Naltrexone reduce alcohol cravings through a yet unknown mechanism, however they also appear to diminish feelings of social satisfaction and connection to others. Naltrexone as a self-administered drug has low ratings of compliance, theoretically this may be due to a hindrance in the social aspect of recovery felt by a patient inhibited by the medication.

My theory is that during addiction, there is significant breakdown of social connections, or that there were none to begin because of formative issues in establishing relations, and that these lost connections or the impairment in the ability to form them can be ameliorated by continual, or the addition of, opioid medications and supplementation and even aids in the recovery of social function and well-being symptomatic of the addiction brain.
Oliver Seshham - Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:57:22 EST Cftykktm No.283302 Reply
>Receptor agonists like Naltrexone reduce alcohol cravings through a yet unknown mechanism
Not entirely true, you can watch the following around the 50 min mark about repeated exposure to alcohol creating new neural pathways to create an analogue of a mu-opiod agonist.
Interesting thread, explains why I only have about a beer on kratom and doing more opiates makes me feel funky until its worn off.

Anybody else paused drinking for (seemingly) no reason?

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- Mon, 18 Nov 2019 11:19:37 EST GjPnnGNN No.283174
File: 1574093977508.jpg -(35755B / 34.92KB, 750x698) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Anybody else paused drinking for (seemingly) no reason?

I've been sober for almost 3 months now. Not sure why, I don't have and never had an alcohol problem. Not much is different, except maybe my wallet is bigger and there are no hangovers. But honestly, besides that, why not drink, man.
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Phoebe Bellyperk - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:02:45 EST e6Op5u/d No.283187 Reply
>don't drink like a Porsche

It happens anytime I drink, even just 2 beers makes me feel nauseated
John Dondershit - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 18:24:03 EST TIAlaMHU No.283202 Reply
>I've been sober for almost 3 months now. Not sure why, I don't have and never had an alcohol problem. Not much is different, except maybe my wallet is bigger and there are no hangovers. But honestly, besides that, why not drink, man.

You fucking asshole.

Drunk hitchhiker ASK ME ANYTHING

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- Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:31:22 EST /MPd0cSp No.283078
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Not sure if I've bitched here yet or not.
None the less. Homeless, alcoholic, crazy, hitchhiker from **********.
Took eight fucken states to get here.
Fuck, I want another beer...
One hour boys.
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Esther Chendletid - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 20:33:07 EST /MPd0cSp No.283168 Reply
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Texas and Toas, New Mexico is BOMB. But don't tell anybody...
A few guy really fucked with me but eh. Life's nuts.
You seem creepy.
There are shelters and food in every major city.
Just plan. You know?
-30 minutes.
Archie Smallstock - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 03:23:03 EST BBF/nF57 No.283185 Reply
I used to hang out with the hobos who would ride the rails I guess. For no reason but to see the bigger picture of things. We lived close enough to the rail yards and it was pretty cool. Poople would explain that you had to know what was what, street wise and traveling. They knew which trains were going where. When to jump to change direction. Otherwise, having a place to live always was closer to the streets in know how. Would hang around pretty sketchy places. This lady cop explained that people dump bodies here. We said, yes, never seen it but
no doubt it happens off and on. These two guy cops were or semed really pissed that we were parked next to the old rail yard, like we were disrupting something that was concerning to them.
Barnaby Bublingluck - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 14:37:45 EST /MPd0cSp No.283189 Reply
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Cool you should move around with them.
Traveling heals the soul.
Unless your stuck I guess. Just don't fuck your life doing this shit.

kill me

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- Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:49:05 EST ThtpAPpg No.283145
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>Be me
>Have extra shitty night
>Dont prioritize breakfast (golden rule)
>smash tall boi by 11am 5.9%
>crush 350 ml of 80 proof by 2pm
>be almost 5pm and want to die. Hangover symptoms, super dehydrated (subscribe to modest pelican)
>Finally eat something IE frozen meatballs and immediately have the death cramps sweats
>Been alc for over 4 years, i should know better. But sometimes we all make mistakes

TL;DR help me survive day binge drinking mistakes so i can continue my buzz until 12pm without puking.
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Cornelius Clallyworth - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:02:02 EST ThtpAPpg No.283159 Reply
should i be worried at detoxing at this level? would 200ml a day be enough to ween. And i want to be more specific. On most evenings i wake up pretty well, but after my first beer i want to ted bundy people. I guess in general for any other alcs reading this do you guys feel this way too? Like if i see someone roll a stop sign (coming from a drunk driver) it puts me into of spin of having zero hope for the human race. I think it may be more mental illness then anything else but im not sure if i already feel that way and the alc is making matters worse, or if im actually suppressing the true demon deep down.

It doesnt help that ive been under a great deal of financial stress and at 27 have yet to find any self worth. there are times it helps me deal, but others not so much.

No off thread topic but def struggling. im 27 have no record, no DUI, still have my license and a girlfriend of 7 years. im just worried if i dont do something im going to lose everything of value in my life
Alice Greenville - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 15:25:44 EST 4H/9l7bZ No.283175 Reply

taper now before you lose the capability. set up a 10-day or 14-day plan where you will drink every day, progressively less each day. like 1 or 2 regular beers' worth less, until on the final day you hardly drink. then detox for a couple weeks. day drinking is how you lose everything in your life. i always stick to the corny 5PM rule for the most part
Basil Seggledale - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 20:32:25 EST DVxOkZGI No.283181 Reply
>should i be worried at detoxing at this level?
Kinda. You'll probably have bad anxiety. But if you haven't had shakes/bad experiences before, then you'll just have some anxiety. The thing about booze withdrawal is each time gets worse. Over the years, it gets worse and worse.

I'd suggest buying a little something to keep on hand, just in case you start to feel like you really need something to stop the worse withdrawal symptoms. That's what I always do... but then I always drink it, no matter what.

You asked me how to keep going, and I gave you some solid advice for that. For stopping? IDFK, dude. My only real advice is: instead of AA, go to SMART recovery. They're not a cult, and they're evidence-based. Never go to AA. It's a not-fun cult.


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- Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:13:29 EST Gwtv0Tr3 No.282968
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Lately it doesn't matter how much or how little I drink, or even how much or how little caffeine I consume with it, but I just woke up on my day off and decided to party, all excited I cracked out and drank just a couple shots of some tasty whiskey.

Now I'm about ready to go back to sleep, even after trying everything between heavy caffeine consumption to physical activity, fresh air, and sunshine. I'm just going to go sleep now, fuck my life.

It didn't used to be this way, only a few months earlier I used to day drink like a boss and was active all day, maybe I'm just tired in general.
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Cornelius Sevingket - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 01:55:36 EST R89qCQIp No.283096 Reply
Alcohol is a relaxant & makes you sleepy.
Eugene Sullerstat - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 01:12:00 EST uOvKEh/n No.283142 Reply
Sometimes, though will cause extra energy. Other times when you have energy,
a few drinks is like overpowering into sleep mode.
Arron Jolly - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:32:02 EST eOm09Cz4 No.283143 Reply
The thing i hate about me 'n hooch is that its makes me tired or too relaxed to work and i find sleeping much more challenging even though i feel like i could sleep for a day.

Who else /Kentuckybourbon/?

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- Tue, 17 Sep 2019 01:56:01 EST PtyLK+y4 No.282704
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Just ran out, take a shot for me boys.
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ya blah blag

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- Tue, 12 Nov 2019 21:16:34 EST Ktx5U+KL No.283131
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ya la constin stanio blah bard. yo charg, iee caripenstino blar yarg.
Arron Jolly - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:34:55 EST eOm09Cz4 No.283144 Reply
This thread is a good example of why enthusiastic people should stay sober.

Bartending tips

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- Tue, 20 Aug 2019 21:47:36 EST MxMbJkHY No.282434
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I'm not super rich, but I try to tip at least a dollar per drink and at least a fiver total in extra bits if I have money. Sometimes if I'm pinched it's just a dollar per drink. Of course, if I was ordering elaborate cocktails or something difficult I'd probably tip more, but it's usually just beer and shots.

How do you decide your tipping habits, /hooch/? Assume you like the bartender.
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Nell Fuffingstone - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 22:08:13 EST VgciEOeP No.283043 Reply
I've been tipping 1 dollar per drink for the past 15 years, and that's the way I'll always do it.
Archie Diggleman - Sun, 10 Nov 2019 05:40:29 EST vdmiK6ut No.283119 Reply
long time bartender here. Dollar a drink is fine. I dont get butthurt if i pout liquid from one container to another and get a buck for it. If you are ordering food, drinks, and chatting me up. I hope for 20% of the check. Im ok with 15% too...anything less than that, and Ill act like everything is ok and call you a cheapass behind your back
James Dravingham - Sun, 10 Nov 2019 15:51:35 EST 4H/9l7bZ No.283121 Reply
i dont like places that wont let me open a tab. if they're making me pay cash for every single drink and expecting a dollar for every bottle they pop open i'll probably leave after 2 drinks. if it's a civilized establishment and i can close out a tab i'll tip 20-30% depending on service

How quickly does physical addiction set back in?

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- Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:09:08 EST vmkPf/7X No.282295
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sup /hooch/
Had a week detox from drinking (I've been a maintanence drinker for years but started not being able to maintain my level & getting innapropriately pissed & was about to get fiired), ended up getting pneumonia & slept through most of it so wasn't that bad. I got offered a knock off beer last night & ended up going home & staying up to 5am drinking a bottle, It's taken me years to develop noticibly uncomfortable physical withdrawals but does getting drunk once put me back into the withdrawal stage? feeling sick as shit today not sure if it's the liquor or just the pneumonia but I'm having a drink now to see if it'll help.
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Sophie Clayham - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 04:45:53 EST DvWS0mNG No.282327 Reply
A week of detox isn't enough. Try at least a month.

Maybe you're just hungover and forgot what it feels like.
Jenny Herryshaw - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 17:33:03 EST ggexI81k No.283030 Reply
>but does getting drunk once put me back into the withdrawal stage?

Pretty much if you drink you suddenly you previous larger amounts.

But 3 days, definitely, days nights whatever. If you are really into it, less amounts, you likely would still feel pretty crappy. Even something close to recognizably like
withdrawals. It can and does get worse for people who drink a lot and for a long time.
Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale Shill - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 16:35:02 EST C35JeYbD No.283097 Reply
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OP, after my first 30 days in rehab I came home to a 750ml of whiskey waiting for me.

The first two hours I was drunk as fuck.

After that it was blackout and I woke up the next day on my friends recliner to a puke crusted hoody.

A month is best.

Prison Hooch

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- Sat, 02 Nov 2019 16:11:07 EST gd8PWRDf No.283051
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When I was around age 12, living with my grandmother, I once attempted to make alcohol in secret with minimal knowledge. I cleaned a 5 gallon plastic milk jug, attempted to sterilize it with semi-boiling water, then I added three large cartons of strawberry nectar along with several cups of pure cane sugar dissolved into semi-syrup by boiling the sugar in water. I didn't measure anything properly, didn't consider the addition of a yeast culture, and then capped the jug with a balloon. I hid the jug for several weeks, and when the balloon would seem too large I would release the pressure and reseal it quickly. Eventually I noticed that indeed began to smell like alcohol, so one day when my uncle visited, I showed it to him, and asked him what he thought, what I need to do next, ect. He thought it was funny, and said I was trying to make "prison hooch". He said I would need to eventually strain it through panty hose or coffee filters, something I couldn't do in secret. Eventually gramma found out about it. She, too, thought it was funny, and put it up on a high shelf. After a month I asked when we could try it. I remember her and mom opening it and laughing, since it smelt strongly of alcohol. Eventually they told me that it was unsafe to drink, because there could have toxins that grew in the mixture, etc. They poured it out.

My question is, if I were to attempt to make rough hootch again using nectar, would anyone care enough to share any tips, such as what yeast culture I should use, any risks to consider, any links to share? Thanks.
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Phineas Sonkinpick - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 10:55:32 EST qEFEyC3P No.283068 Reply
You will have to measure how much sugar is in the nectar, it might be written on the carton or whatever. To get 10~14% alcohol you need at least 1KG of sugar.
If you put too much sugar content it will overload the yeast and kill it or just take forever to brew.

Here's my recipes (1 month brewing time):
1KG Honey + 4L + 2 Bread Yeast + Handful of Raisins = 10~14% Alcohol
1KG Sugar + 5L + 2 Bread Yeast + Handful of raisins = 14% Alcohol

There are natural cleaners for homebrew like 1-STEP , PBW, or Oxiclean. You need to clean it thoroughly or you just end up making something that makes you puke. Pitch the yeast when the mix is lukewarm and always keep it brewing at room temperature for best results (you can wrap it with a blanket or towel and keep it near a heater)

My favorite recipe for a fast drink: amazingmead.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/orange-spiced-short-mead-drinkable-in-3-weeks/

You can do it in secret btw, i dont know how much gunk the starberry nectar produces, but with pure sugar straining is not necessary. I usually let the yeast settle to the bottom and drink it straight.
Lillian Smallstone - Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:39:02 EST lXpXqp+F No.283082 Reply
when I was in prison we made hooch using our sugar packets, orange juice, oranges.

just put it all in a garbage bag and let it sit for a few days.

basically if you don't use yeast, you are relying on ambient bacteria that does the same thing. from what I understand these bacterias can't make it as alcoholic as brewers yeast can and also contribute some other crap as well.

the reason it doesn't kill you or make you sick is because once it gets above a certain alcohol percentage, the other bacteria can't survive
Doris Chillyville - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:47:21 EST e2IF1dyl No.283086 Reply
>the reason it doesn't kill you or make you sick is because once it gets above a certain alcohol percentage, the other bacteria can't survive
This is mostly true. It's more because of the acidity than the alcohol. If the pH is low enough (acidic enough), then there's virtually no pathogenic bacteria that can grow. So if you're starting with a neutral (pH7) brew, then over time, the alcohol and other metabolites lower the pH to around 4, which is safe to drink.

With the orange juice, I'd guess it's always acidic enough to be safe. When people get sick from pruno, it's usually because they're starting with something not acidic enough, like bread or potatoes.

Don't talk to me or do or ban me if this is inappropriate for the board idk idk

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- Thu, 31 Oct 2019 21:14:51 EST kfxYjInV No.283041
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Hey I'm.drinking. Evan Williams it's Halloween and this sucks boo

I'm listening to Jesus Is King because I love this album

God Is still brings me to tears lol
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Henry Fammerstock - Sat, 02 Nov 2019 05:53:50 EST PP8dH/DP No.283048 Reply
Evan Williams green label. Ezra Brooks Black, whatever. These are correct in what real whiskey is. Don't get me wrong, picking up a bottle of Jack is fine, if it were
cheaper in price than Evan Williams. I do like Bushmills as well.

Loved this stuff from the first drink.
Eugene Fuckingford - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 03:01:25 EST kfxYjInV No.283059 Reply
Yeah I do think it's pretty good to can't decide if I like the black or green better

I'm still keeping my eyes out for white label just haven't found it yet

My chest hurts
Hedda Fanson - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:09:41 EST xUh8QHqM No.283073 Reply
It's just the "bottled in bond" version, basically aged a minimum of 4 years, produced in one state "under government supervision" allegedly, all the other rules of bourbon, plus being 100 proof. On the surface you'd think it's just some marketing label but I've become a big fan of the bottled in bond stuff

I'm a fan of higher proof whiskeys and I rarely buy anything under 43% myself. So to me the EW white label is one of the best bang for your buck whiskeys available. I'm about to pour some of the single barrel after I finish this glass of rittenhouse

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