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- Sat, 03 Oct 2020 07:14:36 EST WtUSmzLd No.285015
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4 week sober here. I want to tell you guys who suffer from alcoholism, that you can do it. In this 4 weeks i did more productive things than in the last 2 years. My life started to take on a good path, and things finally start to be better. My health (especially my mental health, digestive system and cardiovascular system) is much-much better even in such a short time of soberness. The withdrawals are horrible hell, but if you force yourself to go through it somehow and remain sober, things start to change after 2 weeks. My life was sitting in front of the computer with beers and vodka and nothing else, now i study, exercise,and eat healthy almost every day. All i want to say is you can do it and if you put work into it, you can fix your life.
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Jack Pissledale - Sat, 03 Oct 2020 07:42:55 EST WtUSmzLd No.285017 Reply
>>285016
Of course that's true. I didn't start exercising the first day of soberness and i didn't cold-turkey, i tapered down. I just say that (starting counting from the first day of 0 alcohol) 4 weeks in, i already see significant benefits that can lead to actually fix my life in a longer time.
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Betsy Sibbledatch - Sat, 03 Oct 2020 19:21:14 EST 4H/9l7bZ No.285020 Reply
i think i feel a glimmer of hope. i will try
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Jenny Clongerspear - Sat, 03 Oct 2020 21:29:02 EST /dM9HtqO No.285021 Reply
>>285015
keep up the good work, op. the most important thing to do is to recognize, overcome and continuously manage the real reason you started drinking.

returning to activities such as studying, exercising, and eating healthy are merely contributing to the natural high you feel during the early weeks of sobriety. if you don't address the fundamental problem (this change doesn't happen overnight) you will either relapse on alcohol, replace it with another addiction, or revert back to how you felt before you started drinking which caused you to drink in the first place.
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Gordon Faggot - Tue, 06 Oct 2020 06:05:06 EST 4WruWeW8 No.285033 Reply
Sometimes im glad i have fulltime12hr shift job when i read these threads because if i didn't work in a factory on my feet for 10 and a three quarters hours i would be a drunk. Booze makes me too bored and sick to work even low amounts just strip me of much needed energy and motivation but i happen to be dependent on kratty because it just makes life easier whilst making it harder at the same time. But fuck my problems im happy for ya op, i would struggle with this positive change even if i didn't do drugs or drink.
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Nigel Subbernet - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 06:35:05 EST 3+s1zKkZ No.285039 Reply
>>285015
4 year sober ex-drunk/drug enthusiast here. Check back in on this board now and again because of how much It helped me through the hard times. Still don’t see anything wrong with drugs & booze inherently, it’s all in the person. Had to accept that I am just better functioning when I am 100% sober. Better at tackling those problems that made me drink in the first place. Also came to realize that dealing with those problems doesn’t mean it’s time to pick up a drink again. You got to be honest with yourself and decide what kind of person you really are.
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John Gappermare - Thu, 15 Oct 2020 04:59:38 EST Pwxvvifa No.285073 Reply
OP here. Thanks for the input guys. I agree with you, and i'm still trying to discover the real reason for my drinking and related problems.
I now entered "the second phase". My "soberness trip" or "natural high" or whatever you might call it went away, i'm very tired and sleepy all the time and lost all of my energy and motivation. I didn't relapse, and i'm trying my best to go through this phase, but i don't remember how long this will last, because the last time i was sober for a time this long, it was in 2017. Good luck to all of you regardless of if you are sober or drinking.
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Frederick Smallstock - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 00:46:48 EST lr+2GV1U No.285116 Reply
>>285015
Nice, I'm trying to quit myself. Was never really a day drinker but I was doing a bottle of vodka (700ml) a night for a long while.

I haven't drank in 2 days now and most of the WDs have been fairly mild, one thing that is annoying though is the fucking itching. I've been itching like crazy, I can't stop scratching my arms. Apparently this is fairly common during WD, anyone else get this? What'd you do to deal with it?
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Ernest Penderleck - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:45:22 EST enwGgO05 No.285117 Reply
>>285116
If it was me I'd try taking some promethazine (called Phenergan here) which is available OTC. Although a lot of pharmacists here (UK) won't sell it because of it's abuse potential. I don't know the mechanism behind withdrawal itching but decent antihistamines would be my guess (fexofenadine, hydroxyzine, promethazine).

Good to hear your WDs have been mild - I've been on around 500ml (I think...I don't exactly measure it, I buy liters) of gin a night for probably a couple of years now and I'm scared of WDs but I really need to stop. Woke up at 4pm today still feeling tired, shat myself slightly before I could get to the bathroom, then tried to eat something (admittedly shitty food) and felt so fucking nauseous I was sure I was going to puke but managed to suppress it after a minute or two. Are you able to sleep? I had a hard enough time sleeping sober before I started drinking heavily.
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Albert Sodgechitch - Thu, 22 Oct 2020 01:53:55 EST lr+2GV1U No.285128 Reply
>>285117
Yeah, the sweats and insomnia/nightmares were shitty for the first couple nights but I relapsed on opiates to get some sleep last night. First time using in a while but I'm not gonna turn that into an addiction again. Don't want to get stuck on the neverending addiction cycle of using one drug to treat withdrawal of another - that's how I got addicted to alcohol in the first place, was using it to get through opiate withdrawals.

Kinda scared that the itching and weird skin rashes I have are due to a fucked liver from years of drug and alcohol abuse.
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Esther Trotfield - Thu, 05 Nov 2020 12:56:09 EST Vqnn4WK0 No.285204 Reply
Month 5 for me, the horror stories on this board helped me sober up. Saved my relationship and life
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Martin Blatherforth - Sun, 08 Nov 2020 10:56:04 EST l0D5IGJv No.285211 Reply
today is day 18 for me. Feeling pretty good and let me tell you, sleeping through the night without night terrors feels absolutely amazing.
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Fanny Ponkinshit - Sun, 08 Nov 2020 19:52:26 EST 4H/9l7bZ No.285214 Reply
pls keep bumping on your milestones, i am trying to work up the will to quit
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Clara Siffinghall - Mon, 09 Nov 2020 11:26:03 EST sOfXrVXe No.285217 Reply
>>285015
I will get mildly sick without alcohol. I've cut it down to just beers and stopped mixing phenibut and gabapentinoids with alcohol. That was giving me neuropathy. The 4 or 5 hours I spend sober every morning are fairly productive, but I can no longer push myself to maximum crunch times. I feel I'm deeply unhappy with the prison of my current future, but I want to get better.
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Barnaby Bullyfield - Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:20:10 EST 7afG2CEe No.285234 Reply
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day 22 for me today, and its a shitty one. Just one of those where nothing feels right from the moment you wake up. Ive had some glowing days but today is filled with anxiety... Im not gonna drink, but the temptation is strong today. A couple beers would be the golden buddha descending from the heavens and make this all melt away. but still, just gotta bite it and take it 5 minutes at a time.
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Eugene Babberway - Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:31:12 EST taYNWUpt No.285242 Reply
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Day 25 for me guys. Went on a binge drinking session three weeks ago for the whole weekend and woke up with a bunch of parts of my gut fucked up and not happy with me. I know I went way past a 12 pack while working out and shit without drinking any actual water or stuff to hydrate myself. Knew I needed a break to give them some time to heal. Good job to all of you guys here and keep up the good work.
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John Snodfield - Sat, 14 Nov 2020 03:04:28 EST Q5BoErrt No.285246 Reply
>>285128
Started drinking heavily again not long after this post - trying to quit again now. Just doing a slow taper this time as I'd started drinking during the day and I felt like I was going to have a panic attack after trying to cold turkey. Had ~12 standard drinks yesterday, going for 8 today.
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John Snodfield - Sat, 14 Nov 2020 04:28:39 EST Q5BoErrt No.285247 Reply
>>285246
Okay I've already overshot that, trying to keep to 12 or under though. Tapering is hard with vodka.
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Martha Dockleford - Sat, 14 Nov 2020 21:33:48 EST VhHn1Ixu No.285250 Reply
>>285248

Fucking come on man. You were doing well and you went and over did it. It's ok though at least you're trying. I can see how hard it can be even though I've never been there myself with alcohol (I have with other stuff). I guess if you have a full bottle of vodka and you start trying to taper off by doing shots you probably reach a point where you're drunk enough to say 'fuck it' this feels too good to quit and you just keep going. That's why you need more of a support group than 420chan.
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Frederick Gettingforth - Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:10:41 EST A+MP2Ayf No.285261 Reply
>>285250
Not OP but this is basically how it goes. You get yourself unsick but because of the nature of the drug you want more so you can actually get rid of the horrible anxiety. Also if you only drink enough to get right you'll be shaking again less than an hour later. I never had much success tapering alcohol but it seems like the only way it works is if you mix drinks and somehow consume only enough to stop shaking quite as bad every time you start feeling that again, which is almost impossible if you want to have any kind of functioning life outside of home. Even when I get down to only 2 shots in an entire day, I'll still be shaking as soon as they wear off. I really am just at the point where I barely ever buy booze anymore because I'm so fucking kindled a couple shots has me right back in withdrawal. Honestly the only advice I could give to OP is acquire some pregabalin for the sickness and then try to not just start abusing that on the daily to replace it or just check into detox. Alcohol is by far one of the hardest drugs to taper but also has the shortest withdrawal if you can manage to white knuckle that shit.
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Isabella Fuzzlesuck - Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:14:57 EST Q5BoErrt No.285262 Reply
>>285250
>>285261
Well, I went back to the taper straight after that. Just drank a fifth spread out over 2 days. It wasn't too bad besides the sweats, nightmares and interrupted sleep. Finished the bottle last night, I might just try to get through tonight cold turkey and see what happens.
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Isabella Fuzzlesuck - Tue, 17 Nov 2020 00:17:28 EST Q5BoErrt No.285263 Reply
>>285262
Nevermind, starting to feel really weird. Time to order some more alcohol. Thank god for delivery.
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Clara Bipperweg - Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:24:37 EST 94DBrkde No.285267 Reply
>>285262
if you are certain you could go cold turkey without worry of medical complications, i recommend it. It seems like tapering is not really gonna work for you unsupervised.

Id rather go cold turkey and feel like shit for a couple days than struggle endlessly with tapering. Its not like i didtn feel like shit all the time anyway. I mean, i am an addict and cant control my habit. What makes me think that i could suddenly control it when i need to taper? its just bs and the same rationalizing I do to justify my drinking normally.

If you cant stop on your own, go to the doctor. go to rehab. Do anything other than continue on 12+ drinks a day because its no way to live man. First day is the hardest, but it can be done. goin on day 27 here and im not feeling great every day but it sure as hell beats what i was feeling before. Getting back the ability to sleep is worth it alone.
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Caroline Sebbleforth - Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:38:28 EST XSwe+/0O No.285269 Reply
>>285015
>My life was sitting in front of the computer with beers and vodka and nothing else, now i study, exercise,and eat healthy almost every day. All i want to say is you can do it and if you put work into it, you can fix your life.
Quitting alcohol and filling the time in with something else are two different things. I see this a lot, where someone improves their life then blames it all on quitting one thing, when really it was because they actually put in the effort to improve themselves.

I've quit alcohol before for a couple weeks and did the same shit I always did sans a buzz.
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Clara Bipperweg - Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:14:57 EST 94DBrkde No.285271 Reply
>>285269
maybe, but if youre drunk all the time youre not giving yourself a fighting chance. You cant study if youre wasted. You cant exercise if youre wasted. and so on.

Also, if you quit for a couple weeks thats not really enough time to adjust to sobriety
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Fuck Nickleford - Tue, 17 Nov 2020 16:12:18 EST 1gT0q/MV No.285272 Reply
When did hooch turn into an AA meeting?
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Augustus Pemblesutch - Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:45:39 EST taYNWUpt No.285451 Reply
After 48 days I ended up ordering a bunch of booze for delivery and i've been binge drinking since saturday. But time to take a break again....
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Cyril Pomblepig - Sat, 12 Dec 2020 07:11:06 EST 6C1p1TP9 No.285454 Reply
>>285451
Are you trying to take breaks or quit entireley? either way, 48 days is really good! How did you feel during that time?

I have a liquor store at the bottom of my apartment building so i can empathize with the temptation of having it delivered.
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Key of Solomon - Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:04:56 EST daKGX9k5 No.285467 Reply
>>285015
Boutta down so much seltzer today
User is currently banned from all boards
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Cedric Worthingstone - Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:06:00 EST 6C1p1TP9 No.285468 Reply
>>285467
nice, that shit is good af... im planning on getting one of those home carbonation things, sodastream or whathaveyou.

I also love a tall indian tonic with lime and ice, hold the gin... Used to chug my parents schweppes tonic when i was a little kid and they would be pissed because there was nothing left for their GT:s lol. Bitter stuff is my weakness
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Eugene Dubblemod - Wed, 16 Dec 2020 20:49:57 EST taYNWUpt No.285489 Reply
>>285454
I never want to quit entirely, but one day I want to be that guy that goes to a party and really does only have one drink. In the break I took, I felt fine, just smoked alot more. I didn't change my lifestyle or anything else, i'm pretty much the same from before and after that except my liver and other organs were a bit healthier.
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Lydia Fuckingshit - Mon, 21 Dec 2020 20:24:31 EST xlQ81PKM No.285523 Reply
>>285516
/detox/ is dead.

I've gotten down to 8 drinks a night from a fifth of vodka a night. Been at around this level for the past ~5-6 nights. Safe to jump off at this level or should I taper more? The issue I'm having with tapering is sticking to it - it's fairly easy for me to not go over the amount I did the night before, but going under it is harder.
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Thomas Donkinmet - Tue, 22 Dec 2020 05:37:07 EST 5hD16szY No.285525 Reply
>>285524
What killed the site? This place was dope 10 years ago.
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Thomas Donkinmet - Tue, 22 Dec 2020 10:00:52 EST 5hD16szY No.285527 Reply
>>285526
You either die a hero, or live long enough to be a villain.

I'm 30 now, so I am rapidly approaching villain status unless I spontaneously kick it.
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Jack Chullerville - Tue, 22 Dec 2020 11:00:29 EST bq8D7sU9 No.285528 Reply
>>285516
no
just hide it if you dont care about the topic

day 62 bois.
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Simon Tootstone - Thu, 31 Dec 2020 02:33:12 EST alQ/lGk3 No.285605 Reply
day 7...did an aggressive detox like I always do...but the older I get the less I can rely on that method...abstinence or drink myself to the grave...either sounds fine...more partial towards the booze because I'll be drunk
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Nigel Ferrychodging - Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:50:57 EST k9ku4QUl No.285615 Reply
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>>285015
Why can't any of you faggots learn to moderate? There's nothing wrong with getting fucked up. Being a pretentious Narcotic Anonymous faggot, or an AA faggot high on the false belief of God is literally no better than being a raging alcoholic. No one gives a fuck if you wanna do Drugs or not but no one who does wants to hear this shit, kek. Go fuck yourself OP. I LOVE being high and drunk and I wont apologize for it. The only thing is knowing your limits and when to do it and how and why. People like OP are pathetic as fuck and no better than the town drunk. Your destiny is your own faggot. Think for yourself.

Now I'mma about to go get fuckkkkkkkkkked up for new years. Happy New Years 420chan.
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Jarvis Wobberchudging - Fri, 01 Jan 2021 11:48:29 EST xdwQZOKS No.285624 Reply
>>285615
you have a fundamental misunderstanding of addiction
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Jarvis Wobberchudging - Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:58:55 EST xdwQZOKS No.285626 Reply
>>285525
>>285526
is everyone on discord now?

somehow i dont enjoy discord nearly as much as posting on old-ass forums and imageboards, no matter how slow they may be
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Barnaby Mublingfield - Fri, 01 Jan 2021 21:23:45 EST 4H/9l7bZ No.285629 Reply
>>285626

same, it's always just this cringey clique who shits on anyone whose name they dont recognize
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Cornelius Drevingshit - Sat, 02 Jan 2021 04:56:57 EST 7BwyEy8Q No.285630 Reply
>>285626
no forums, only discord.
all forums now link to discord.
no forums, only discord.
why you posting not on discord?
no forums, only discord.

...and i hate it too. the format sucks 56 dicks.
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Sidney Mingergold - Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:15:36 EST OfS8NPTv No.285637 Reply
Boy, oh boy. The shakes hit me big time first time in years.
I already knew this was going to happen, but went cold turkey anyhow. (I know, it's dangerous and not even md. would recommend it). Quess I didn't remember how it feels not to be able to wipe your ass, brush your teeth, or walk anyway near normal.

Just the tremors though; deliriums were quite mild. Must write though: I've had enough of this shit for now. But, and I know it for certainty, I will come back.
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Betsy Hizzleville - Tue, 05 Jan 2021 12:53:10 EST E07w0w13 No.285639 Reply
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I went the entire month of december with no drinks. Was really proud to have accomplished that. I had said that during covid times I wanted to only drink 2 or 3 nights a week, but ended up drinking more and that spurred the december break.

I've never been so bad as to finish a whole 1.7 liter in a night, but I'm the child of a worse alcoholic so I've been paranoid about going off the deep end most of my life.

Since Jan 1rst I've started again, but been keeping it to a dull roar, but I've thought of a few ways to keep the number down. It's lame as heck, but the old standby of no drinks before noon is a good hard rule. But if you get up at like 5am fuck what can you do?

But a way I've found to have less drinks but it still get's the job done is if you can exersize during the day, a couple drinks hit you a good bit harder.
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Polly Billingspear - Tue, 05 Jan 2021 17:47:45 EST 4H/9l7bZ No.285640 Reply
>>285639
lol bro, noon? i force myself to wait till 5pm otherwise i will literally lose control of my life
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Ernest Chublingnore - Sat, 16 Jan 2021 19:09:37 EST +txNvBIr No.285720 Reply
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I stopped drinking jan 3 and im feeling a lot better. I used to wake up and immediately go down the block and buy two hard seltzers for work. Then shots at lunch to keep the buzz going. I had terrible stomach issues and hair falling out but the worse part was the immense anxiety that would come as soon as I started sobering up. My heart rate felt so intense I'd fucking cry until I started drinking again. The first 3 days were horrible but I'm glad I regained control and plan to not drink until next year.
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Ian Tootfuck - Mon, 18 Jan 2021 20:48:10 EST zSF2cUPE No.285728 Reply
>>285525
Even like 6-7 years ago the best you could hope for on /hooch/ were daily responses in threads, which is fine and still allows decent interaction and conversation. This place has never gotten enough hits to simulate real-time conversations in threads—you post a couple times and come back to it later. Discord does suck but if you're blasted and want some company you can drop in on any number of chats with active people who are also blasted.

Also >>285526. Most of /hooch/'s userbase from the glory days are in like their 30s. Some legends like uglyhuncher though will never die
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Isabella Mevingwater - Fri, 05 Feb 2021 16:15:30 EST XD7GBe50 No.285837 Reply
I'm trying to make the change buds; but I still drink in the late afternoon/evenings. I think it would be easier if I wasn't WFH... but I also shouldn't be making excuses. Mainly, I'm afraid to quit cold turkey because I don't want my heart to tell me to fuck off and give up.
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Eugene Sorryfoot - Sat, 06 Feb 2021 11:07:33 EST xdwQZOKS No.285845 Reply
>>285837
if youre drinking like, too many beers (6-10 a day) excessive, not 2 pints of vodka a day excessive i doubt quitting cold turkey would be dangerous.

Personally i cant taper. Just cant unless someone supervises me or some shit.
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Hannah Grandbury - Sat, 13 Feb 2021 19:20:48 EST jbU4DsM4 No.285868 Reply
I'm trying to do this sober bullshit and I've got a question. Normally I have a coffee each morning (2 big heaped spoons of instant with 2 spoons of sugar, half water half milk) and it would help drag me into the land of the living after my usual night of drinking.

I'm currently trying to kick the booze, with varying degrees of success. If I have my usual coffee on the mornings after I haven't been drinking, it makes me feel tired and nauseous. Before I've even reached the bottom of the mug I feel like I want to go curl up in bed, and simultaneously I feel like I want to chuck up.

What's the deal with that?
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Cornelius Pickstone - Thu, 18 Feb 2021 05:17:21 EST xdwQZOKS No.285899 Reply
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>>285868
>2 big heaped spoons of instant with 2 spoons of sugar, half water half milk
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honk - Sat, 27 Feb 2021 23:51:17 EST WOq4dFxK No.285939 Reply
Almost 2 weeks sober here. Woo. Hoo.
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honk - Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:36:58 EST WOq4dFxK No.285945 Reply
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>>285943
Yee. Nights are kind of boring and I'm a bit apathetic at the moment, but it's nice to not wake up hung over and it's definitely nice to give my body a rest. On the upside I have so much more free time, holy shit. Started biking again and goddamn I'm out of shape.
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Nell Gondlestock - Sun, 07 Mar 2021 14:30:47 EST uw9RG/jE No.285973 Reply
I'm 4 months of *reasonable* drinking. Not sober, just reasonable. I went from like 30-40 drinks per week, down to less than 1. Any degenerates who don't want to completely quit, take my advice: record how much you drink every day. It really opens your eyes into your behavior
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John Gangernerk - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:32:12 EST 4SBX98dr No.287249 Reply
On Sunday I will have been sober for three years. Maybe that's why these thoughts are rising, but lately I've been thinking about going back to "social" drinking, as in two or three beers tops. My first year sober I went to AA every week so I know to some people this is a huge red flag. In some ways I think my perspective on alcohol has changed and that I've matured. I've moved to a new area and made a new circle of friends and it kinda sucks being the guy that won't drink anything at all. For reference, at my worst (about four years ago) I was drinking 2-3 pints of liquor a day, had a seizure from withdrawals, went to rehab, etc. I've never been a "normal" drinker, but I'm not sure how true it is that people can never return to (or develop) healthy drinking patterns. Or maybe this is just the bottle trying to drag me down again.
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Alice Chisslechin - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:11:37 EST S7kbpGB7 No.287252 Reply
>>285020

this post was me. i have drank nearly every day since then. i dont know what to do
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Betsy Hubberfure - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 23:52:27 EST EkdoLdgA No.287253 Reply
>>287252
No shame in seeing a doctor. I went in for chest pain and felt like I was dying. I was up to every day, usually a fifth/26 of whiskey. They talked me through my options, had tests to make sure nothing was failing. All in all, got prescribed some medication and I've tapered off to the point I can wait until the weekends.
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Henry Ceckleshaw - Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:26:14 EST 0RyqEDHY No.287276 Reply
>>285015
When do the cravings die down? I've been sober for 18 days, was never a total drunk but drank way too much too often, in the potential dependence zone according to the government website thing based on my intake and behaviour, I could drink a 12 pack of beers or half a bottle of vodka a night and would have more than that not infrequently, I drank about 16 beers over the course of about 6 hours one night in mid December for example.

I didn't have any real withdrawal symptoms when I stopped but I have these intrusive thoughts about drinking even though I know it will only hurt me, its the same every time I try to quit, I was sober for a year before before I gave into peer pressure and started again and this is the longest I've gone since

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