I remember reading this thread in 2012, crazy.

I have come back to this thread many times over the last 4 years. It's really one of the the best reads i've had on any chan. It's always cool to see an OP post back after many years.

Unfortunately i'm back on the no-job list myself in about a month due to health complications and just plain quitting my job.

I feel with anybody who have worked phone support jobs. My very first job was a 1st line supporter at the biggest ISP in my country. Not only did I have to contend with angry and/or stupid apes not RTFM'ing an INCREDIBLY simple manual and having to guide them all through resetting their routers and TV receivers, but i had to deal with this while every FUCKING SECOND of my time was counted, recorded and nitpicked for shit pay only a few bucks above welfare. I got a heavy case of phone-PTSD to this day because of this shit... I ended up getting anxiety attacks whenever someone called me, even friends and family

once, the entire cable technician staff decided to go on strike for a fucking week, and just guess who had to take ALL the flak.
Did I get a bonus for my good performance during that week? heh, FUCK no... I got a sucky bunch of coupons for their piece of shit "service" so I could have cheaper net for few months (I had my subscription at a competitor who actually offered a decent router, good support and excellent uptime).

For the next job I moved to Germany to work at a jewlery company... Here I got a harsh lesson in the company-wide effects of bad (or, rather, non-existing) leadership.
I worked there as a programmer in a small team of 3 (me, the CIO and a web dev/IT support guy). The place, the CEO and the co-workers were really cool people to work with. The IT department was running really well, and we started really getting shit done after I got up to speed. IT was respected by all, and I expanded my duties to server maintenance and sysadmin work.
In the end of 2015 we had implemented nearly half a million lines of super stable automation code (for interfacing with a shit ERP system), along with a support ticket system, company-wide network monitoring, a warehouse status display system and much, much more.

Shit was pretty good, the pacing was optimal and everything went well untila few months later when it was announced the CEO got the boot and the company owners would grab the reins from here on in.
Essentially what happened, was that the entire company turned into stressful shit within just a few days. Before, we had maybe one or two calls a day for really minor stuff (a dialog box or a paper jam), but after that we got absolutely flooded... literally EVERYBODY in the entire company (even 10yr+ veterans) had more or less "forgotten" basic, well-documented, precautions, procedures and rules regarding the ERP system and other areas.

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>>38352

I'm not sure if I got it right.. In the german company, why did they suddenly start calling you for minor shit that they actually knew? Because the owners treated them like shit and they wanted to take it out on someone?

>>38352
I worked a call-center job for a cellphone company for a couple months. The metrics system was terrible. If they actually cared about solutions for their customers they wouldn't pressure the workers to keep call times under six minutes or whatever amount it actually was. To get a bonus we had to meet all the metrics and convince the caller to upgrade their plan, buy some new gadget, or switch to paperless bills. Generally the caller had some technical issue or they were lied to by the salesman at the store (who are on commission, so its in their interest to make as many sales as possible, leading some to lie,) so they weren't interested in a sales pitch. If you wanted to get a bonus you'd have to be sly or manipulative, or lucky. Anyways, I didn't stay there long. Thankfully no phone ptsd, if anything the opposite. Its super easy talking on the phone now, and I often unintentionally transition to a phone voice out of habit.

Caterings a good job to get into because there's catering jobs everywhere and something to fall back on if a better job goes awry. IT sounds better, but I'm talking no-degree job seeking.

>>38352
>>38354
Sorry to hear about your health, Nell,

OP here, about a year after my last post in the thread. Having lived through it myself, unfortunately my only advise is to keep trying different call centers if you can't jump into a different industry. I had to go through 2 hell-holes that scarred me for life until I found my current gig where I'm actually pretty comfy after close to 2 years.

I was actually "promoted" (lateral movement rather, but it pays better) to a slightly different position about 4 months ago and even though my daily tasks are about twice the amount of crap that I had to do as L1 tech support, I now handle 1/4 of the stress I was handling before (which was considerably less than the previous 2 hell-holes I worked in to begin with). Basically, I do as much as possible through email and have "little to no real contact with customers" as an actual goal. Moreover, the customers I deal with are generally decent folk who will not yell at you over meaningless shit, and to top it all off, my bosses are all pretty chill.

I ended up not buying a car because it's easier and cheaper to sleep on the bus than stressing out over the insane traffic jams while commuting; instead I'd rather move close to where I work to improve my life's quality even further.

>>38383
Well I'm going to go ahead and assume you are negative equity on that car so you'll lose money selling it and still have a car payment and no car. Which really fucks your situation.

Given you say you are making awesome money, and full time that means you probably have at least 1500 going out in fixed expenses. So then you're probably making at least 200-300 over. If that is the case try and close the gap on the negative equity on the car. Once you've done that, save a little more over maybe like 2k cash in hand after you close the negative equity on the car. Sell it, then go and finance a small econobox car with higher mileage at a cheaper price. Dropping 2k down and spending no more than 7k so you finance less than 5k. You can get a really decent car for 7k right now. And you can always get financed. You just won't get a good rate. Always finance as short a term as possible. Money paid in interest is all lost and a scam. Plus if your job falls through you are that much closer to having paid off the term. Maybe though in your situation financing longer but paying higher may work depending on how reliable your job is. If it could go in the next year, finance longer but pay as much as possible now.

Down scaling "external" expenses that aren't living expenses. Once the financed toys like cars and jet skis and shit are out of the picture most people will run themselves broke over what I call convenience fees. As in they go broke every month pumping money into McDonalds and Starbucks. Eat at home. Eat cheap. Learn to cook. Don't go out. Don't buy impulse nickle and dime shit at the stores. Stay away from consumerist hell holes. Develop self-control. The idea here is the save as much as your paycheck as you can. Make it a game of raising the percentage of your check that you save every month as to how much you spend. You can get as extreme as you want.

Once you start saving money, invest. INVEST INVEST INVEST. That is the name of the game. If you start investing in your 20's rather than your 40's or 50's like most proles, you're gains will multiply far more in age as maturity to investments can happen twice for you unlike people in their 50's who need their shit to mature in less than 20 years. You've got 40-50 years before your investments absolutely must mature effectively giving you a double the advantage. Also investments stack overtime so while you've got theoretically double the time if you invest now, the amount of money you could turn over your investments could be 100x the principle investment. You start with 5 dollars and it appreciated 5% every year over the course of 40 years you'd have 35 dollars. Or a 600% increase over the base principle. To where as if you did the same but with only 20 years like most people you'd have 13 dollars. Or and increase of 165%. You see how half the time yields FAR LESS than half the appreciation percentage? Time is of the essence when investing. And the only way to retire is if you invest. So save money NOW. Bank interest rates are just absolute shit so put money into stocks while you are young and don't need to rely on certain profits. You could have well over half your investments in slightly riskier stocks. But buy stocks always that pay dividends. And reinvest those dividends, don't fuckin spend them. And buy stocks with P/E rations that are under 25-20 years. Solid companies that aren't some new gadget or trendy are smart choices. You can invest a few dollars in penny stocks or some "up and coming" company but not much. Stay away from stock news websites and the TV stock shows or whatever. They are all insider trading scams. Look at 10+ year charts on net profits, NET INCOME, dividend history, dividend yield, P/E ratio and history, and peer around for potential shake ups that may be coming like mergers, or stupid new business models. You can easily become a millionaire and don't hire financial planners or other stupid shit. Don't invest in real estate either. Too easy to get burned. It is easy to make out on that racket but way too easy to lose everything. You're young and green no offense so the real estate and flipping shit is a bad idea. Live in modest conditions so that you can live your older years not working to death.

I'll give you an example here of how money can grow itself.

>You invest 5k dollars annually into shit for the next 40 years. You make a 2% gain on everything which is a lower return but somewhat respectable and easily doable.
>At age 63 you have 320k dollars in the bank while only saving 200000.

>Let's do something more realistic that you could do.

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>>38384
I really appreciate your thoughtful response man. I've decided to keep paying on the car, and it NEVER crossed my mind about closing the gap and then selling it. Seriously, I had no idea what I was signing on for when I got it - I was some fucking dumbass kid with no advisors.

I have been practicing self-control and i still have yet to hit a balance. I go out with friends about once a month, and I never spend over 40$ at bars. I don't buy any shit that I don't need. I can eat for a week on about 20$. As i'm getting older, I'm starting to kill some of my bad habits that hurt me on money - drugs, drinking, cigarettes. I've noticed that what makes me happy, at my absolute happiest and feeling all good and sunny and shit, is having plenty of money in the bank. It's unbelievable how good that makes me feel.

As for investments, I'm looking into them and still learning as much as I can. I'll get there - one step at a time.

Thanks again brother, goddamn I know it took you time to type the post and I appreciate it.

get a bike nigga, and get some whisky in a plastic bottle and put it in your pocket when you go to bars, then get a roommate, til you got like 10k in the bank.

it's about 2 parts L, 1 part S and 1 part D.

kinda shitty when you think about it, L comes in packs of 10, but you can only buy S and D in packs of 8. Albert Hoffman really threw a wrench in the family picnic dynamic with that one.

>>38370
I will have forty LSDs, please.

>>38370
Your gonna need alot of ammonia and a lot of bleach my man.... pic unrelated

>>38370
Even if someone was dumb enough to post the process it requires expensive as fuck lab equipment not normally available to everyone

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I am testing this

>>38379
I really dont think you wanna get busted bringing drugs in from the middle east in our current political climate...

>>38363
I think Vimeo has a lot of artsy stuff on them.

Or you can just make a new youtube and risk it.

>>38363
Go to opentuner . is and look at all their mirrors. Use one of those sites.

>>38372
The ug;yiest dogbadgers ever drawn, no-one is proud of you.

>>34209
oops wrong pic
nb

>>32134
What a terrible idea

this is retarded
get a seego vhit for 15 bucks, glass and way better
https://www.google.com/search?q=seego+vhit

swag

Bump

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+do+the+meth+with+the+shaking+and+baking

yeah you'll blow your fingers off, but all the chemicals are there. Just translate hick to safe. 2-litre → beaker, water → DO NOT ADD WATER

>>37100
You should post it, I'm genuinely curious.

red white and blue method
googl3

Im photo is simply tutorial.

>>36977

>>38324
Sir u have nonclue how much was on the inside of that babe. Plus oil melts inrk rhe wrap adn i luuuv that sizsle. But pls anyone help with this bit bs? Why can it be like buying tokens for internet currency?

>>38317
I have been considering crypto for a while but STILL don't know where to start. I have no bank IRL and only have Paypal.

>>38328
Localbitcoins, you can buy money in person.

if u cant figure it out then just stick to something ez

paxful.com

This is like a younger version of LocalBitcoins. You can choose from tons of different payment methods, including Paypal and gift cards. The hardest part is finding a seller who charges reasonable prices AND doesn't ask you to jump through hoops and provide tons of personal info. But they exist.

The Great Courses lecture are amazing.
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/practicing-mindfulness-an-introduction-to-meditation.html
You can find the course on The Pirate Bay.

>>37860
How can you read and have single pointed focus?

>>37864
RETARD ALERT

>>37860
welcome back chirst cock sucking retard.

>>37855

if you are looking for a good guide. buy the book 'the mind illuminated' by john yates phd. it is a fantastic guide from complete beginner to enlightened master by a scientist and a budhist monk .