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Ura - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:35:29 EST ID:Xpje7wF2 No.12811
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I need some good Spanish music to listen to. I will literally accept ANYTHING that is NOT mariachi. I'm sick of that garbage.

Necesito una buena música española para escuchar. Literalmente aceptaré cualquier cosa que no sea mariachi. Estoy harto de esa basura.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 26 Mar 2019 14:57:30 EST ID:qyX9aeOr No.12974 Report Reply
Molotov?
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:52:00 EST ID:zqPHlfAq No.12976 Ignore Report Reply
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Control Machete, Cartel de Santa (rap mexicano)

Sumo (rock argentino), pero el cantante Luca Prodan usa más inglés que español en unas canciones

Y esto >>12926
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Esther Gissledock - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 15:20:19 EST ID:/x0bvHS7 No.12983 Ignore Report Reply
Hey Spanish speakers!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NW1MG8Uc2g

Is this person a native speaker? They have a really really strong English-speaker accent, but then I was thinking... maybe a lot of second generation Spanish Speakers speak Spanish with so many people who learned it as a second language that they end up talking like non-natives?


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Phineas Blackleman - Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:33:27 EST ID:IAKVe98s No.12687
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Any advice for learning Italian at home?
I won't have a lot of time to spend on it maybe an hour a night.
I would like to be able to have intermediate conversational level.
Any useful websites or textbooks?
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Betsy Crunnerville - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:22:39 EST ID:NZmMur/5 No.12712 Ignore Report Reply
>>12687
Future learn has some free courses on it at the moment.
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Walter Goodcocke - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 11:18:30 EST ID:N5Ky0Fnn No.12982 Ignore Report Reply
Try Duolingo.


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George Bocklehire - Fri, 23 Mar 2018 11:28:31 EST ID:4+gZeHsc No.12908
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I'd like to learn German. Dutch is my native tongue but i don't really know German except for the resembling words.

Any good sites/resources to learn one of the most beautiful languages in the world?
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Walter Mombleserk - Tue, 26 Mar 2019 13:18:00 EST ID:aDvhE9x2 No.12972 Ignore Report Reply
>>12971
Another important factor to language learning success that should not go unmentioned is to supplement the more boring but fundamental resources with ones that truly interest and motivate you. This may take a lot of trudging through but if you keep at it you will find them. For me, these were forums and sites about synthesizers and popular music, detective shows and random documentaries, interesting children's books by writers like Erich Kästner, you get the picture. I wish the best of luck.
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Ebenezer Furringford - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 04:19:30 EST ID:XCp5GUmm No.12975 Ignore Report Reply
On the off chance that you're on linux, there's this great and quick german/english-focused word lookup program called "ding" that really saves time having to look up a word in a dictionary while also being much more accurate than google translate (as it's only single words, not sentences).
https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~fri/ding/
And a tip for german media, a whisky stores channel with loads of whiskey reviews in german (they have an english spoken channel as well which is how I found it).
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheWhiskyStore/videos
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Betsy Blathershaw - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 14:39:53 EST ID:529/nHGj No.12981 Ignore Report Reply
Don't use German imageboards for learning the language. They all use a retarded meme speak that normal Germans would never understand.


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Shit Bardfoot - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 04:46:07 EST ID:Gib9dqf+ No.12824
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Hey guys,

I would truly love to learn Chinese and think a good starting point for me would be to learn tones and the Pinyin alphabet.

I've stumbled upon material that did look professional, yet upon closer inspection some mistakes were present (pointed out by native speakers).

So that's basically why I'm asking you guys for sources you known to be reliable, where the pronunciation is spot on and where the teaching is hopefully dynamic and not too boring.

I will have the opportunity to ask for help from a native speaker now and again but she won't be there 24/7 for me. She will mostly review what I learned on my own and correct me afterwards.

Any other advice about learning Chinese is welcome as well. I am really eager to begin, I'm just not sure where to look.

Thanks a lot in advance!
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Betsy Fallyford - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:41:31 EST ID:WWuykEgE No.12960 Ignore Report Reply
So it's me, the person who made this post >>12878
Just want to kinda redact what I said somewhat.
>There is very little room for error on tone, and people will not use context to deduce your intended meaning.
>This is exactly what I've heard. It's spelled similar in pinyin but the Chinese won't work out what you mean if the tone is off.
That was what I heard, but actually people can understand you if you get the tones off, obviously they are important but it's not as severe as I or that poster made out.

In terms for people saying Pinyin is bullshit, by all means go straight into characters and start learning them right away, but to put it simply you're going to NEED Pinyin in the beginning. All of the dictionaries use it and you're just making a monumental task even more difficult if you try and learn chinese without it.

And for what it's worth, chinese childrens books usually contain the pinyin below the characters, so it is something that is known here.

Putting it out there that pimsleur is great too, if you want to torrent those.
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Nicholas Murdfuck - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 03:46:58 EST ID:OlD8+wUh No.12979 Ignore Report Reply
Native Mandarin speaker here, as well speak/understand somewhat a few dialects.

With all Chinese languages/dialects, you're really going to have to get your tones down before and it gets trickier practicing it with locals since there's also accents to get past.

All in all, I'd say drill the 4 tones into you first, while working on your pin yin, with a different word you'd intend to say with each tone.

Like idk, for example:
fen1 (seperate/divide) - (分)开, fenkai
fen2 (grave) - (坟)墓, fenmu
fen3 (powder) - 面(粉), mianfen
fen4 (anger) - (愤)怒 , fennu

Do this with whatever pinyin you want, because I mean for myself and other native speakers I know, we don't think about the tones because we all already know it by heart, but if you were to ask us, we have to work backwards kind of in this way to figure out what tone we're looking for.

As for building vocabulary, I'm not certain how to go about teaching this or helping somebody learn for Mandarin, but when I was picking up Japanese, I subscribed to a Kanji of the Day newsletter and learnt the pronunciations from there, as well as the ways to use it, although having a background in Mandarin might have helped make it much easier.
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Nicholas Murdfuck - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 03:47:44 EST ID:OlD8+wUh No.12980 Ignore Report Reply
>>12979
forgot the link nb
https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/chinese.html


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David Deshduck - Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:35:08 EST ID:vwn4pbtv No.11709
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Let's do something useful with our linguistic knowledges!

Post "Fuck the police," in as many languages as you can.
Bonus points for "Smoke weed every day."
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Thomas Hinkinchack - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 16:25:27 EST ID:/y9THpzG No.12963 Ignore Report Reply
Adding another one to Norwegian:
"Snut er ut"
Snut meaning "snout", referring to the snout of a pig. "ut" meaning out, "er" meaning is. "purk" or "purken" is also a common way to refer to cops. a "purke" is a female pig.

Snut snut kaffegrut
Cops cops coffee-grounds (the nasty black shit you don't want to drink)
Purk purk sur agurk
Cops cops sour cucumbers
Purkeblod lukter utedo
Cops-blood smells like outhouses (the shitters you find out in the woods by cabins)
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Edwin Penderdock - Sun, 17 Mar 2019 10:21:44 EST ID:avB4RCSP No.12970 Ignore Report Reply
>>11849
you cannot forget the classic: 'zawsze i wszedzie policja jebana bedzie' (everytime and everywhere the police will be fucked)
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Isabella Worthingman - Sat, 30 Mar 2019 08:20:20 EST ID:N1EjdgxF No.12978 Ignore Report Reply
>fuck the police
Дa eбa пoлициятa
Γάμω την αστυνομία


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Nathaniel Drorryhood - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 21:18:54 EST ID:Y/6xwwJi No.12947
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I'm learning like ten languages in Duolinguo, between the app and the website I spend a few hours a day at it intermittently and it's getting really easy to get good at speaking a lot of languages.

Anhybody have tips or other languages for learning massive amounts of vocab and grammer?
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Cyril Famblededging - Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:59:32 EST ID:Y/6xwwJi No.12967 Ignore Report Reply
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I started using duolingo for Klingon and it’s actually a nifty little app, I’m like lvl 25 on Spanish and where else can you study Welsch?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 26 Mar 2019 14:56:42 EST ID:qyX9aeOr No.12973 Report Reply
I do like it more than Rosetta Stone tbh. I’m actually using Duolingo right now to learn Indonesian and I like the app’s interface and it makes learning a new language not seem so boring.
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:57:45 EST ID:zqPHlfAq No.12977 Ignore Report Reply
Read foreign Wikipedia articles on subjects that interest you and listen to music in those languages too. Songs tend to use looser grammar and more colloquialisms / slang than articles, books, or speeches, so they'll teach you things that Duolingo doesn't really focus on.


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Joseph Stalin - Wed, 08 Apr 2015 19:21:57 EST ID:x4iOujrH No.12057
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What the best and easiest way to learn Spanish?
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Angus Chindlekick - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:42:24 EST ID:YUYgxr2I No.12956 Ignore Report Reply
>>12876

Also what happens when the children are most comfortable speaking English but still speak with their parents in both languages
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Walter Hillywill - Mon, 01 Oct 2018 18:54:30 EST ID:gKPuW1kH No.12957 Ignore Report Reply
>>12872
>>12875
>>12880

Native spanish speaker here... that's atrocious and the first time I've read caribbean spanish (dropping every consonant possible, mixing genders and code switching whenever). I wish we could call caribbean spanish a dialect, that way I can disregard everything my brain is currently cataloguing as a near illiterate level mistake.

btw it's barely intelligible, half the time I struggle to understand wtf they're saying. it's easier to understand argentinians and nearby cultures because even though they deviate quite a lot from standard spanish their variety is actually pretty systematic and they write the way they speak always using standard spanish grammatical rules.

BUT going back to the subject immersion is usually a very good idea, for any language.
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Hannah Smallville - Thu, 04 Oct 2018 12:50:32 EST ID:dJndZiUm No.12958 Ignore Report Reply
>>12195
This.


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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 02:13:04 EST ID:XS8FLVXN No.12898
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I'm looking for a synonym of 'get' which implies that the object or action is received unintentionally, or that it's undesired. Does such a verb exist in English? Yes, I checked the thesaurus, but I didn't find anything that satisfied me.

The closest word I can think of is 'take' as in, "The car really took a beating this winter." But it just doesn't usually work outside of idioms like 'take a beating/licking'.
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Fanny Biffingkire - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 03:46:30 EST ID:pfV1k0Io No.12936 Ignore Report Reply
Depends on the object received.

There's no word that specifically contrasts "get" with "get unintentionally" as in some prefixing languages.

cost are incurred
beatings are suffered
gifts are received
hits are delivered

Strictly speaking, received is just the French parallel of Saxon get. They're still almost entirely interchangeable although gotten is rarer in the passive voice than received.
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Angus Hicklespear - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 04:54:01 EST ID:AuSQ7OmV No.12941 Ignore Report Reply
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isn't get the one that implies it's unintentional or undesired? take is the one that makes it seem intended and using it ironically implies the lack of intent. is there some word parallel like this in some other language that you're trying to match in english?
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Cornelius Gooddock - Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:14:49 EST ID:t3GIWSES No.12946 Ignore Report Reply
>>12902

>hopefully I receive a beef bukkake today

FTFY, beef bukkake is delicious


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Hugh Hollerson - Thu, 02 Aug 2018 12:10:55 EST ID:FtaZu9oV No.12945
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Good evening chums, i know this is not a music board, but my headache is not coursed by sound but by my lack of linguistic insight.

I want to know the lyrics to this song. because i wanna sing it. Google is not my friend in this situation. Can anyone here make out what Sublime is singing and perhaps write it down for me? in french or in english, anything goes.

Do links work fml
Subline & Yun Miyake - Lúdic


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scumfuc - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:59:55 EST ID:tkutlT9X No.12890
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Scottish Gaelic, that's my next big language to learn. I'm well aware of how fucky learning Goidelic languages gets, though so I am not sure where to start course wise.

Does anyone here have experience with the language? What resources did you use?
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Hamilton Clunkintitch - Sun, 01 Jul 2018 10:33:03 EST ID:D+KagsBL No.12932 Ignore Report Reply
>>12927
Yup. That's a diminutive. They're quite productive in Gaelic apparently.
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Hamilton Clunkintitch - Sun, 01 Jul 2018 10:34:09 EST ID:D+KagsBL No.12933 Ignore Report Reply
>>12927
Bogdan's got nothing to do with it though. That's a common given name in Serbia. It means "Godgiven", a calque from "Theodore"
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Charles Packlefut - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 00:29:47 EST ID:7+szUJXv No.12944 Ignore Report Reply
>>12933
Yeah, interlingual wordplay doesn't go so hot, I guess. I once made a joke about how the Mongols were able to conquer so much territory because they all had one goal, they were a mono-goal kind of people.

I believe the Roma I knew explained it as being his language's version of "George," but I thought "George" was an Anglicization of "Gregorios" from Greek.


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Henry Dartforth - Sun, 13 May 2018 00:02:52 EST ID:tkutlT9X No.12920
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So, what's a better semantic domain to use against the idea of Language Relativity than colors?

I'm thinking emotions would work. They're universal, but require thought to distinguish, unlike color recognition, which is instinctual. That said, I can't really think of any language that distinguishes emotions differently than English and Spanish, the only two languages I speak.

Penny for your thoughts, /lang/.
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Fanny Biffingkire - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 03:36:54 EST ID:pfV1k0Io No.12935 Ignore Report Reply
Pastoralists have many words for shades of color. The brown, white, yellow, grey, brown range can be absolutely huge. As you probably knew, most color systems don't distinguish blue from green. Black, white, red, yellow, green-blue, brown are the most stable. Grey is common. Pink is rare. Orange is basically unknown. There are a class of colors derived from plant and animal products eg. indigo, marron, lilac. These are always young and easy borrowed.

Emotional states may be universal but only the basic ones have specific roots. The usual rendition for higher emotional states is periphrasis with reference to "heart", "mind", "body", "eye". They don't say happy, they say "heart-pleased", they don't say snarky/irreverent, they say "hard-eyed", they don't say sad/depressed, they say "broken-hearted", they don't say brave but "heart-y". Furthermore, these expressions don't always translate to the same thing. "Heartlessness" means cruelty as in English but licentiousness in another language (and also conceivably cowardly).

This way of expressing feelings is productive in English when we don't use core emotions, verbal roots or borrowed words.

Semantic range of most expression is relative. The question is one o f degree. If there is no need for something to be distinguished, it doesn't get distinguished. Thus, lots of languages don't create words for digits greater than 5. 10, 20 and 100 numerals derive from roots meaning greatness or totality. This isn't merely limited to intangibles, distinguishing between lips-mouth, hand-arm, hand-leg is globally more absent than it is present.

I'm not sure why you feel motivated to challenge this. It's just more parsimonious to be relativistic.
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Charles Packlefut - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 00:23:26 EST ID:7+szUJXv No.12943 Ignore Report Reply
>>12935
I'm no linguist but I was wandering around on Wikipedia back then and I felt a vulnerability in this line of study. I'm just some layman, I can't really look into this concept properly, so I decided to consult this board and hopefully catch the attention of someone who could maybe make something of this idea, or at least put my mind at ease. Thank you for that, by the way.

I feel that perhaps the geopgraphic locations where languages develop, and the circumstances in which they develop, affect the way certain languages categorize objects, and that no situation is ideal for preparing a language to be perfectly comprehensive when describing classes of things such as plants and animals. Not everything lives everywhere, do people who live far away from anything venomous, like the Inuit, have words for poison?

Because of this like, natural gap in our knowledge, people applied the words they have to new concepts and we end up with shit like the family groups of Wittgenstein. I wonder how much scientific progress has been held back by our inability to properly handle things that don't quite fit in our categorizing, things like Echidnas and suicide trees/suicide plants.

I apologize, I'm in way over my head with these idle thoughts. But I can't really be satisfied with parsimony in science. I'm kinda hoping that I can loop someone sho knows what the fuck they are doing into pursuing these ideas further, just in case I'm onto something here and there's insight to be discovered down this road.


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Nigel Cracklehug - Fri, 11 Aug 2017 21:59:07 EST ID:h2SYV0kE No.12855
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Do we need so many different punctuation marks. Could we not use one punctuation mark. and the context would tell us what it.s supposed to indicate.
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20th Century and new screens - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 07:30:59 EST ID:+jqQNLjw No.12886 Ignore Report Reply
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Dancing language and body exercise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGq-2gY81os
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Hedda Pishwater - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 20:08:06 EST ID:j1bLKHv0 No.12931 Ignore Report Reply
When texting, theres so much you can display with emojis. Being ironic, embarrassed about asking something, saying something jokingly, being unseriously siggestive while still indicating a level of seriousness. I rarely use punctuation when texting people. Emojis to me are what indicate inflection in the voice. I think the amount of punctuatiom we have is satisfactory, especially with emojis.
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Fanny Biffingkire - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 02:05:20 EST ID:pfV1k0Io No.12934 Ignore Report Reply
having studied monocase, vowel-unmarked, Old South Arabian epigraphy where the only punctuation mark is the "word" boundary

you can fuck right off mate

the more the merrier


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hodeedo - Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:30:15 EST ID:QpPIe/nL No.7196
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I require music in Chinese. MANDARIN please for the love of God. I find most Canto music is better, but Canto is not what I'm learning :/ Preferably not pop music, its all I ever seem to be able to find.

Is there anything more new-wavey, like Neon Indian, or alternative? Lo-fi beach pop like The Raveonettes or Best Coast, rap, whatever, just.. nothing that's going to remind me of N*SYNC plz.

Is this kind of like asking for good movies from China? Not happening?
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Nigel Shakeford - Tue, 15 May 2018 00:01:04 EST ID:Bb2InQVO No.12921 Ignore Report Reply
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>>12816
Is that meant to be some kind of joke?
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Betsy Deffingkat - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 18:36:02 EST ID:2CxxH1QJ No.12928 Ignore Report Reply
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>>7196
https://soundcloud.com/pdp_beatmaker/rivers-secret-ft-bozz

THIS
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Sidney Gadgefield - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:54:03 EST ID:j1bLKHv0 No.12929 Ignore Report Reply
>>7196
If youre okay with rap then look up higher brothers on spotify. Shits fuckin cash.

Favorites by them are isabellae, aston martin, made in china (not the remix), and wechat.


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Cornelius Ginkinsudge - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:47:59 EST ID:4HnKYQAn No.12641
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I cannot, for the life of me, find an answer for a simple question on any of the sites on which I study.
I generally know when to use the nominative, accusative and partitive, except for the verb "to be." I at one point thought it would just be the nominative, ex. "Se on taulukko. It is a table" from skimming walls of finnish text, but I later read that the accusative may sometimes look like the nominative. I have no idea which case ending I should use with "olla" as the verb, and it seems so fundamental to everyday speech that I want to get it straight in my mind.
>inb4 learn a useful language
Finnish is wierd and fascinating, albeit useless.
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Clara Drubberlat - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:39:35 EST ID:PZICZQ5a No.12717 Ignore Report Reply
>>12682
Also I think Iso suomen kieloppi is good. It's descriptive grammar for those who can read Finnish
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Oliver Brondlestone - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:17:04 EST ID:VU9VXUdS No.12917 Ignore Report Reply
>>12641
Okay, I've been living in Finland for five months, so I know a decent bit of finnish.

With olla you use nominative when you refer to a quality of something definite (ruoka on valmis 'THE food is ready' vs ruokaa on valmista '[some] food is ready').

Also, partitive when adscribing abstract qualities (mun isäni on insinööri 'my father is an engineer' vs mun isäni on surullista 'my father is sad').

You never use genitive-like accusative as complement of verb olla.
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Alice Gezzlefuck - Sun, 20 May 2018 04:32:29 EST ID:mN1MzBjb No.12924 Ignore Report Reply
>>12917

*mun isäni on surullinen
"Surullista" is something you usually use when you comment on something ie. This is sad \ tämä on surullista
Source: am native speaker but I have forgotten most of the fancy words like accusative allitive etc.


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