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Language isolates

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- Fri, 03 Jul 2020 15:16:40 EST ENLqPASF No.13116
File: 1593803800811.jpg -(39381B / 38.46KB, 218x512) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Language isolates
Let's talk about Basque, Armenian, Japanese, etc

There's some disputation among experts as to whether some of these languages isolates or very distant cousins of ancient languages. One piece , for example, suggested Armenian was a removed cousin of Anatolian Greek in the BCs. I think it said Anatolian. Could've been Ionian Greek. I've also read Basque could share a common ancestor with Finnish.

What is your position on this kind of stuff? We can start with Basque, Armenian, and Japanese. Do they really standalone or is there mounting evidence/building consensus that these are not truly isolated?
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George Coffingham - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 15:18:03 EST DMnU1zMY No.13119 Reply
>>13116
The easiest one is Armenian. Mainstream linguists hold the view that it's Indo-European.

As for Japanese, there are some relatives: These include Ryūkyūan, Okinawan, etc. These languages all are part of the Japonic language family.
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clv - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 23:13:16 EST e3rtlhpa No.13120 Reply
>>13119
Yeah but what about Timucuan? The phonetics are very arawakan or waroid but the grammar rules are hardly as neat and tidy as warao, at least to my pathetic indoeuro wordbrain
>>13116
Basque probably doesn't have any relationship with finnish, that's kind of silly. It's probably pre-indoeuropean.

English help

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- Sat, 04 Jul 2020 17:24:25 EST nwrY4kXK No.13117
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Hello /lang/.

I work in big company in IT department. Most of the time I communicate in english language and I consider myself to be ok at it, however when trying to read for instance this chan it bugs me a lot to read all these complex sentences. I understand them but I have to put lot of effort to go through the text from the begging to the end. Sometimes I find myself reading it couple of times before I finish.

Seems its more complex language than it is at work

Any tips on that?

tl;dr got easily exhausted by reading complex sentences in english, have to put lot more effort to read them in order to understand, how to get over it
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George Coffingham - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 15:15:18 EST DMnU1zMY No.13118 Reply
>>13117
Keep in mind that the language on imageboards is completely different from the language at work or in professional environments. I could say exactly the same as you, except I'm learning Schooln, and can hold an okay conversation, but reading dobrochan is HARD. Really hard.

I can recommend you find something else to read as well. Something you're interested in, and have a good chance of finishing. I always feel triumph after reading an article or blog post or something in Schooln. And it's much easier than reading some Schooln imageboard.

Super Advanced Spanish

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- Thu, 19 May 2016 09:55:02 EST CDym3DV1 No.12589
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I want to do the Dele C1 or C2 exam and I need resources, I'm willing to spend a bit of money but not buy all of the few courses an books out there. So what do you recommend? what are the best resources?

Chulo-points if they are free

pic unrelated

inb4:
at your level you just need to read any native speaker test and you will somehow magically achieve perfection without hard work
NO
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Lydia Bardhall - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 20:45:25 EST PMClDcwJ No.12854 Reply
>>12589
I think you learn a language by using it, so why don't you start transcribing one or two words of a Spanish novel every day, read out loud as you write. Other than that I don't know, build vocabulary with flashcards or reading the news.
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Samuel Deffingshaw - Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:13:24 EST IWuTMAIO No.12865 Reply
You have no idea how incredibly easy reading a novel or watching the news is compared to doing a standardised test.
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Shit Sockledon - Wed, 17 Jun 2020 02:33:01 EST 7zYCbsYP No.13115 Reply
>>12589
have you tried google? literrally tons of pdfs, audios and so on...just put DELE c1 kek

japanese language stories

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- Fri, 14 Feb 2020 21:43:25 EST wLUG4qy3 No.13088
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hello /lang/, ive been learning japanese for about 4 months now and let me just say: its is a lot of fun. I started off as a weeb who had no idea about the language, but now ive fallen in love w/ kanji and the easy to understand grammar. so, anyone who studies japanese, whats your journey been like?
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Basil Binkinpidge - Tue, 14 Apr 2020 01:20:44 EST p2eXdlgs No.13101 Reply
>>13088
I just started online japanese for college, same boat as you basically. I'm still trying to wrap my head around a few grammar points but it's a surprisingly simple and fun language. The insane level of accessibility/amount that exists of japanese media also makes it a a lot easier to learn
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George Bidgetet - Sun, 03 May 2020 03:52:20 EST vU4DAL2u No.13106 Reply
>>13088
Same here anon, been studying it for 2-3 months now. Doing Duolingo as refreshers on and off but I can't find a good way to study reading comprehension. And I know that that is the best way to learn it.
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Walter Pockdock - Tue, 09 Jun 2020 23:16:42 EST PHDZeXNt No.13113 Reply
>>13088
I've been studying for something like 9 years now off and on. Kanji is pretty cool and knowing some of the history can be pretty fun too. I'd recommend reading "World of Kanji" if you're into that stuff.

Just keep at it. When it starts getting stale try and break it up with new methods of study or just entertainment. I'm at the level now where I can read raw manga, only occasionally having to look up words. It's really rewarding. You'll get there!


Chinese - Seeking Material

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- Thu, 22 Jun 2017 04:46:07 EST Gib9dqf+ No.12824
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Hey guys,

I would truly love to learn Chinese and think a good starting point for me would be to learn tones and the Pinyin alphabet.

I've stumbled upon material that did look professional, yet upon closer inspection some mistakes were present (pointed out by native speakers).

So that's basically why I'm asking you guys for sources you known to be reliable, where the pronunciation is spot on and where the teaching is hopefully dynamic and not too boring.

I will have the opportunity to ask for help from a native speaker now and again but she won't be there 24/7 for me. She will mostly review what I learned on my own and correct me afterwards.

Any other advice about learning Chinese is welcome as well. I am really eager to begin, I'm just not sure where to look.

Thanks a lot in advance!
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Graham Bunshit - Wed, 06 May 2020 17:22:57 EST 5CAg7W0w No.13108 Reply
>>13107

there is a code system they memorize over years. like ascii characters. there are systems for english keyboards and also chinese keyboards with little radicals which can be pieced together in a code-like fashion to make the characters. there are also voice to character programs
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Wesley Dorringstire - Wed, 27 May 2020 21:43:23 EST 9Zub3eBg No.13111 Reply
>>13108
huh. thats wild i can do full statements at quick_glance
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Archie Murdville - Sun, 14 Jun 2020 01:08:37 EST zoVcWwf/ No.13114 Reply
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>>13107
你好
it looks like this. Younger people prefer pinyin, but older people usually prefer to use handwriting. As the other user said speech to text is also pretty ubiquitous here, so that gets used a lot.
It can be a pain sometime trying to find the right one though. Here's a bunch of characters for "Zhang", for example
张 长 涨 胀 帐

also it's pretty common for the system to "guess" the characters you mean, so usually all I'd need to do is type in "nh" and obviously there's no Chinese words that begin with nh but Ni Hao is a very common phrase.

learning German

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- Wed, 29 Jan 2020 07:11:29 EST Qn0TOfB0 No.13079
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Anyone else learning German ? Its pretty good language
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Speeddreamin' - Sat, 23 May 2020 04:35:10 EST P8zN66/i No.13109 Reply
>>13079
Ja, ich spreche ein bissen Deutsch.

Simple stuff for now, basic phrases later. Das ist gut. Have german far back in my family tree and I just can't do the heroes in Media so I always play Germany (better fashion sense anyhow).

Learning a bit of Schooln for the same reason.

Want to try my English-phonetic set fodder at Mandarin Chinese casually as well. Perhaps some simple Japanese phrases, too.

Gomenasai, hombre. I recommend Microsoft Translator (bing) to assist. It seems to be worlds better than Google.
Here is numbers in German from 1-100:
>https://www.fluentin3months.com/german-numbers/

Gute Nacht!

germanic

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- Thu, 01 May 2014 22:57:40 EST PE8s70rS No.11330
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Hello /lang/

American here, speak english and farsi fluently since i was taught them very young, took german in high school for 4 years as well as teaching myself it to get ahead through music, movies, stories on the internet. I would say I am quite proficient but not fluent since there is always more to learn.

I want to learn a germanic/european language, I am conflicted between these 3:

Danish
Dutch
Polish (is this considered germanic?)

Which would be best for me to learn given my current lang set? My main motivation is for the challenge and since I know german pretty well, maybe i could get a bit of a jump start with one of these languages.

Also on topic with Danish, since it is similar to Norwegian or Swedish, would it be more beneficial to learn one those instead to speak Danish or just stick with Danish.

Thanks in advance
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Samuel Chegglefack - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 09:43:13 EST U+RPs2IH No.13077 Reply
>>11332

Dutch is also loaded with Spanish words like guitarra. American English has much more Dutch than BBC english, like in use of thaler (dollar), stoop, or kop (as in coppin' dope). Once literally heard a song there named 'gleep-gloop'. Would double-plus recommend learning it on the ground if you have blond haar
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Fanny Siddlemadge - Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:41:24 EST ENIyF/K2 No.13103 Reply
>>13077
American English has much more Dutch/b]

When I, an American, looked into Dutch I found it to be very comfortable to learn, unlike French or Spanish. Lots of cross-inteligibilty between the two.

Scandis

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- Tue, 11 Feb 2020 17:53:01 EST Ns5XKTa+ No.13084
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Hey /lang/, what's the best Scandinavian language to learn?
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Henry Dudgefoot - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:19:09 EST 4H+NuPef No.13096 Reply
>>13092
go back 2 kc
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Thomas Hebblekeck - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 18:05:20 EST +SqNolk8 No.13097 Reply
>>13084
For use Swedish or Danish

For fun obviously Icelandic, Faroese, Elfdalian
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Beatrice Hunnerwill - Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:20:03 EST TxV90WRd No.13102 Reply
>>13084
Norwegian. It makes the others more accessable since written Norwegian looks like Danish and spoken Norwegian sounds like Swedish.

help blease

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- Fri, 13 Mar 2020 22:34:11 EST Y0PP5k36 No.13094
File: 1584153251908.png -(95533B / 93.29KB, 930x723) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. help blease
I have to write an essay about a problem and then describe a funder for said problem:

This is an issue
So and so funds the issue:
-such are their accomplishments

They help the issue by
_resason 1,2,3, etc.

Fuck just stoned after a few years not smoking, trying to A+ this class. Help me boys.
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Lillian Nannerway - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 22:53:48 EST Y0PP5k36 No.13095 Reply
>>13094
nvm I got this, yall would give me a D+ if anything, modasucka's


Learning Japanese (or any other lang) Strategy

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- Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:06:56 EST 4hgRjj1+ No.13098
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This is pretty much the best way to learn any language, not just japanese

Writing System Reviews

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- Sat, 28 Dec 2019 16:45:31 EST NdN6r1+H No.13064
File: 1577569531464.jpg -(64822B / 63.30KB, 320x320) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Writing System Reviews
This thread is for criticizing and critiquing all the different writing systems from around the world. For instance:

>Thai Language
Okay, listen. I have no problem with little circles. I actually sort of like seeing alphabets that use little circles. But there is a point where it needs to stop and you've clearly crossed it long ago, Thailand. I don't know who told you it was a home idea to incorporate little circles into literally almost every single letter in your writing system, but they were lying to you. perhaps your mind has been clouded due to an excess of pad thai and ladyboys, but that is simply no excuse.
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Sophie Blackfuck - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 23:21:17 EST mJ1DYqDG No.13075 Reply
>>13073

hey man, calligraphy is like, really chill. you could try it if you wanted to, just take it easy and enjoy the beauty and balance of literacy
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Clara Gorringshit - Tue, 28 Jan 2020 08:10:52 EST 9ztSsHuH No.13078 Reply
Latin script is fine and dandy but they were really uncreative and reused the same symbols by turning or mirroring them like b, d, p and q.
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George Pittstock - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 19:11:09 EST zmKaah/N No.13093 Reply
>>13073
arabic is extremely easy to write. i was afraid at first of the 3 different forms of the letters, but it's literally just cursive. you essentially have a straight line at the bottom with lines or curls going up. p cool

FUCK THE POLICE! In multiple languages!

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- Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:35:08 EST vwn4pbtv No.11709
File: 1410824108119.jpg -(110980B / 108.38KB, 960x570) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. FUCK THE POLICE! In multiple languages!
Let's do something useful with our linguistic knowledges!

Post "Fuck the police," in as many languages as you can.
Bonus points for "Smoke weed every day."
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Nigel Bunstock - Tue, 08 Oct 2019 21:23:49 EST 8VO72n3D No.13030 Reply
>>13029
>Bonus points for "Smoke weed every day."
روزانه حشیش بکش
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Aston Lee - Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:40:55 EST sT8wdRGE No.13070 Reply
>>11709
操他妈的歐美警察!

屌佢老母嘅的歐美差佬!
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Simon Seblingdere - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 18:21:28 EST sAhG7UXp No.13083 Reply
>Brazilian-Portuguese
Foda-se a polícia
Fume maconha todo dia.

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