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русский язык

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- Thu, 29 Aug 2019 04:57:49 EST ltItWifP No.13007
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I don't see a thread for Russian, so I figure I'd start a new one since it's my favourite.

I figured we could put grammar questions in here, along with resource requests or whatever you all want.

So if anyone has any Russian grammar questions I'll do my best to answer.

Myself, I am looking for something to listen to that's for advanced learners, but easy to have on in the background while I'm working. Any ideas?
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scoobee - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:37:56 EST cOb2SZXP No.13043 Reply
anyone know how to get into the Moskow City Open College? heh heh i want to take some mathematik courses, i'm sure hardly anyone would object if i could find a way to sneak past the admissions prying eye.
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scoobee - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:44:28 EST cOb2SZXP No.13044 Reply
>>13043
of course, having been a domestic WWOOFer, i have to say that I am equally interested in those opportunities, since while on those farms will be able to save my disability checks, and once the assignment is complete, i may go live in the city to work on art and music and of course the language.
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John Pittgold - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:09:02 EST ltItWifP No.13046 Reply
>>13042
You mean сeгoдня? It's just a peculiarity of the genitive case, masculine and neuter.

We write -oгo and -eгo but pronounce it as -eвo and -oвo. Like хoрoшoгo means something like "of the good one". And сeгoдня (it's сeгo дня, of this day) has the same "ending" in it.

Languages that were made

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- Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:53:40 EST EoH94fyh No.12212
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I'm talking about languages that were created with a set purpose in mind, like how Esperanto was created to make an easy to learn politically void language.
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Cornelius Sopperlure - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 17:04:39 EST 67xJTozv No.13032 Reply
Every programming language!

The bible

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- Tue, 05 May 2015 11:19:02 EST v2a/POHn No.12110
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I don't know if many of you have noticed, but the bible is a very good way of learning languages. Maybe not when English is involved because of the archaic language, but otherwise it's more or less similarly translated in all European languages.
  • Many have a gist of some of the stories.
  • Virtually every sentence is numbered.
  • Its easy to find some story that can keep your attention.
Reading the bible is quite interesting in many ways even/especially if you're not religious.
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Phineas Blandlelud - Sun, 10 May 2015 10:16:32 EST 4a9FnRGS No.12116 Reply
>>12110
I have found this too. Being able to look each sentence up in some other language is really helpful.

As for
>Maybe not when English is involved because of the archaic language
I don't agree. I find the ESV translation is easily to read and it's not that different from what I speak.
Also there's the Basic English version I think it's called which sticks to fairly simple language.
But in some very obscure languages it's hard to find a good translation. For example the Ainu version (translated by John Bachelor) is unusable to anyone who actually speaks the language today.
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cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Fri, 03 Jul 2015 17:46:53 EST CEs+htsk No.12211 Reply
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>>12110
so are instruction books and assembly manuals
sometimes menus too. i cracked the korean alphabet over kim bob
(it had each word written ~pheonetically in english also)
won't work with chinese menus >_<
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Isabella Bevingspear - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 20:32:51 EST ZHwh13Fn No.13038 Reply
>>12211
how did you manage to crack the language over that?

Teach Yourself Mandarin

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- Mon, 23 Sep 2019 04:57:17 EST c91k9P2h No.13019
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Greetings, peoples of 420chan.

I would like to invite you to read this blog I maintain, a blog about how you can teach yourself Chinese Mandarin. I have always thought people shied away from Asian languages like Chinese because they seemed to difficult and complex. So I have decided to create a blog to demystify it so everyone understood how Chinese works, what they are getting themselves into and what kind of expectations they should have when getting into it. If you are interested in Chinese Mandarin, but don't know how to actually learn and study it, I invited you to read my blog. It's the first post, a bit lengthy, but very complete.

https://teachyourselfmandarin.wordpress.com

Thank you very much and make a good use of it.
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Frederick Fabberbury - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 07:15:20 EST fGqmwyu2 No.13020 Reply
>>13019
People should shy away from learning Chinese because China is a terrible place and in no way worth getting involved with. Pretty much learning any other Asian language would be a better use of time than chinese.

How many languages do you know?

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- Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:57:48 EST t0v2d9Gw No.13017
File: 1568908668004.gif -(4894719B / 4.67MB, 720x404) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How many languages do you know?
I am a native English speaker.

I can speak and read in Italian but not write because I never practice the spellings.
Through Italian I can understand a huge amount of Spanish but sadly mainly answer back in Italian.
Same goes for Portugese.
I can speak and read a bit of german but understand more than I can speak.
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James Randi - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:58:45 EST t0v2d9Gw No.13018 Reply
I think I'll pick up dutch next.
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Cornelius Sopperlure - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 17:00:35 EST 67xJTozv No.13031 Reply
My mother tongue is German and I speak English pretty much fluently. I plan to learn many languages eventually but currently my highest priority lies on Japanese. Additionally I learn Spanish in school. Languages I want to learn but haven't really started yet because I don't think it's good to learn this many at once are Norwegian, Latin, French, Finnish, Russian & maybe also Chinese & Korean

FUCK THE POLICE! In multiple languages!

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- Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:35:08 EST vwn4pbtv No.11709
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Let's do something useful with our linguistic knowledges!

Post "Fuck the police," in as many languages as you can.
Bonus points for "Smoke weed every day."
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Nigel Bunstock - Tue, 08 Oct 2019 21:23:49 EST 8VO72n3D No.13030 Reply
>>13029
>Bonus points for "Smoke weed every day."
روزانه حشیش بکش


Language Meta

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- Wed, 18 Sep 2019 01:50:11 EST XCp5GUmm No.13015
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Post a language (or several) and a good reason/motivation to learn that language.

Russian: Huge unhindered piracy scene. Huge country (surface of Russia is larger than surface of Pluto).
Latin: Recognize the root words of lots of words.
English: Lurk/Post on 420chan. Obligatory for programming.
Japanese: Endless amounts of lewd degenerate media.
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Jarvis Bammleson - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 02:07:01 EST sGs8eG8h No.13016 Reply
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Cornish: Most obscure Celtic language. Part of the superior Brythonic language category, secret language that only few know making your motives impossible to discern. Ancient spells that not many know about in the old celtic tomes. Sounds like a fantasy language, can confuse people to think you're speaking elvish. Name of the language and people/country/province is literally CORN-ish

Here, get to learning
https://www.memrise.com/courses/english/cornish/

learn english

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- Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:09:53 EST WCAUIA3M No.13011
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Anyone here have any suggestions for learning english? Best methods, resources, etc.
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Nigel Bommlechet - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 21:37:18 EST +vWMJ4yW No.13012 Reply
>>13011

Make some internet friends and talk to them on a regular basis. Bonus if they want to learn your language.
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Fucking Favinghood - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:26:28 EST cyDkV1VD No.13013 Reply
>>13012
This is the only thing you'd need really.
Just read, hear and speak that's all there is to any language

Learn Japanese to Survive: Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji

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- Wed, 03 Jul 2019 06:05:09 EST bTT0lPs3 No.13001
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I know this might belong to the games board, but this is a tool used to learn language. I was wonder what the folks here who may have studied Japanese think of these games. I know they are just RPG Maker games but there is actually a lot of care and heart put into these games. If it weren't for these games I wouldn't have entered a world of studying the Japanese language. Because of this game I even bought a Japanese textbook and started to write down these characters forming words. But I think I am dyslexic as fuck because something I confuse the more English looking characters with English characters. I just bought the third and likely final title in the line which focuses on the Kanji. It was discounted during the Steam Summer Sale for a total of $1.79. I now own and have all three of these games installed. I like how it teaches the language using anime and JRPGs which just seems to make sense for a game teaching foreigners who might be familiar with the country through their media.

But I would like to know what other resources are out there that could help me learn this language better. I do wish there were other games that were this fun that taught other languages. It would amaze me if there was an Arabic game like these especially since I hear that language is hard as fuck. Anyway, these games would have a special place in my heart for potentially opening the door to my second language.
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Cyril Paddlekodge - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 07:19:20 EST fGqmwyu2 No.13008 Reply
I haven't played these games, but I've been studying Jap for a few years now and I've come to distrust any learning material that promises to make the learning "fun" or "easy" or "fast". The fun in learning is the outcome, when you're able to read a book or play a game in the original language, untainted by shit "translations", or able to speak with a native, or whatever your goals are. Pretty much all the learning materials I've seen that try to make a game of learning or speed up the process tend to cut so many corners that learners come away with a very poor understanding of the language. This is just a general comment, these Learn Japanese games may be a fine way to get started in learning, but beware of all the garbage out there. If you really want to learn it takes a lot of time and effort, it's not something you can just play a game or study five minutes a day on some gamified website and get proficient in. It's a long process that isn't always super exciting, but the hard work pays off over time.

The link in >>13003 is a good guide, I've used many of the recommendations in there and had good success.
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Alice Peshcocke - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 15:57:24 EST f/cZ7nf5 No.13009 Reply
>>13008
What kind of native Japanese reading material did you use while learning early on?
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Cyril Paddlekodge - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 19:08:26 EST fGqmwyu2 No.13010 Reply
>>13009
Mainly manga at first. It's a good medium to start with because the text is typically not that dense, the pictures help fill in context when you don't know words and can help aid memory, and there are plenty of easier series with furigana. よつばと! is a common beginner one, ゆるゆり and アホガール are ones I like too. Keep in mind that even "easier" material will be hard at first. There are also readers with Japanese short stories and English translations that explain grammar, those can be pretty useful early on. I also really like certain Japanese music so reading lyrics along with the music has been one of my main language sources. Even if you don't understand much it can help you get used to what the language sounds like.

Duolinguo

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- Mon, 13 Aug 2018 21:18:54 EST Y/6xwwJi No.12947
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I'm learning like ten languages in Duolinguo, between the app and the website I spend a few hours a day at it intermittently and it's getting really easy to get good at speaking a lot of languages.

Anhybody have tips or other languages for learning massive amounts of vocab and grammer?
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Augustus Shakeson - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:12:56 EST Udl6Zk3C No.12998 Reply
>>12947
I just gave this a try, and I'm hooked. It's a gameified language teaching platform. It's actually entertaining to do!
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Augustus Shakeson - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 15:11:07 EST Udl6Zk3C No.12999 Reply
>>12998
400+XP later, and I'm speaking some German now. What's the going exchange rates for Lingots to Stank Tokens?
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Fanny Sankinhidge - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 18:04:18 EST COx9j0uk No.13006 Reply
daily reminder that you can link your duolingo account to your speedrun.com account
working on Yiddish 100%

A natural accent that is offensive to people

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- Mon, 10 Jun 2019 06:55:02 EST Tt4QsqPp No.12995
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So, my natural accent has a lot of "black" sounding words. These are actually influences from the southern dialect, however, specifically south east Florida. I also have west coast American and Spanish influence, as well as influence from other regions like New York City and east Asia.

The thing is, I feel like I'm being constantly asked to adjust my speaking voice in one way or another but I get confused because of so many things. I don't expect some random person to understand my entire accent history or the influence of multilingualism on an English speaker's accent. However, I fucking hate the standard American voice I normally affect.

What's a reasonable compromise for this? Anybody speaking another language other than English have a similar experience?
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Thomas Fungernetch - Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:29:57 EST Tt4QsqPp No.12996 Reply
>>12995
On top of that I got a fucking trenchmouth how do i fix lol
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Polly Pittdale - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 17:19:41 EST dm5Rt5Uo No.13000 Reply
totally unrelated to yourt question but i've never been to america and i have been told that i have a kind of bastard mixture of a generic east coast and southern accent lol

Chinese - Seeking Material

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- Thu, 22 Jun 2017 04:46:07 EST Gib9dqf+ No.12824
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Hey guys,

I would truly love to learn Chinese and think a good starting point for me would be to learn tones and the Pinyin alphabet.

I've stumbled upon material that did look professional, yet upon closer inspection some mistakes were present (pointed out by native speakers).

So that's basically why I'm asking you guys for sources you known to be reliable, where the pronunciation is spot on and where the teaching is hopefully dynamic and not too boring.

I will have the opportunity to ask for help from a native speaker now and again but she won't be there 24/7 for me. She will mostly review what I learned on my own and correct me afterwards.

Any other advice about learning Chinese is welcome as well. I am really eager to begin, I'm just not sure where to look.

Thanks a lot in advance!
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Nicholas Murdfuck - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 03:46:58 EST OlD8+wUh No.12979 Reply
Native Mandarin speaker here, as well speak/understand somewhat a few dialects.

With all Chinese languages/dialects, you're really going to have to get your tones down before and it gets trickier practicing it with locals since there's also accents to get past.

All in all, I'd say drill the 4 tones into you first, while working on your pin yin, with a different word you'd intend to say with each tone.

Like idk, for example:
fen1 (seperate/divide) - (分)开, fenkai
fen2 (grave) - (坟)墓, fenmu
fen3 (powder) - 面(粉), mianfen
fen4 (anger) - (愤)怒 , fennu

Do this with whatever pinyin you want, because I mean for myself and other native speakers I know, we don't think about the tones because we all already know it by heart, but if you were to ask us, we have to work backwards kind of in this way to figure out what tone we're looking for.

As for building vocabulary, I'm not certain how to go about teaching this or helping somebody learn for Mandarin, but when I was picking up Japanese, I subscribed to a Kanji of the Day newsletter and learnt the pronunciations from there, as well as the ways to use it, although having a background in Mandarin might have helped make it much easier.

Anyway, here's a link to a Mandarin word of the day website, so you could see if it works for you, it also comes with the pinyin and tones so you can use it in tandem with what I've mentioned above to both build your tonal foundations as well as your vocabulary at the same time.

Aside from that well, I'm not sure if writing is of any concern for you, but there's no easy way to learn that other than to get one of those massively traumatic 习字 books and slog away, I'd say give it pass unless you want to be hardcore. I'm Chinese and I don't even like that shit.

One last small tip, when typing Mandarin with pinyin, words like 女人(nü ren) are registered as "nv ren".

Pinyin's fucking great.

Gàidhlig

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- Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:59:55 EST tkutlT9X No.12890
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Scottish Gaelic, that's my next big language to learn. I'm well aware of how fucky learning Goidelic languages gets, though so I am not sure where to start course wise.

Does anyone here have experience with the language? What resources did you use?
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Caroline Pugglestone - Sat, 18 May 2019 10:42:06 EST ENopw94i No.12990 Reply
Gàidhlig and Gaeilge (Irish) are mutually intelligible, but there are far more resources to learn Gaeilge... think about it

It would be easier to approach Gaidhlig as a fluent speaker of Gaeilge
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Hugh Mublingman - Mon, 20 May 2019 19:33:44 EST ZPVXF58T No.12993 Reply
But I mean....why?

Well whatever, fair enough, I got taught it in School when I was young, I can count up to 10 and introduce myself and stuff, but that's it. It's quite a nice sounding language, and I guess it's sort of funny whenever you hear like "helicopter' or something added in because gaelic just tends to borrow new words than come up with its own.

That said, I lived in Scotland 26 years and never once heard it being spoken outside of the radio. You're talking about a very tiny number of people in a very specific part of Scotland who are gonna be speaking this, and even then every single one of them can speak English (or 'Scots' as they would probably prefer it).

I guess just hit up BBC alba dude, a lot of resources in Scotland get put into gaelic television and radio, so it should be easy enough to find. Other than that I've no idea where you'd start.
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Nathaniel Nickleridge - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:09:38 EST ENopw94i No.12994 Reply
>>12993
>I guess it's sort of funny whenever you hear like "helicopter' or something added in because gaelic just tends to borrow new words than come up with its own.

oh yeah, the ancient anglo-saxon word "helicopter"... it's a French word you potato, every language on this earth borrows words from others, not just gaelic ones.

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