Leave these fields empty (spam trap):
Name
You can leave this blank to post anonymously, or you can create a Tripcode by using the format Name#Password
Subject
Comment
[i]Italic Text[/i]
[b]Bold Text[/b]
[spoiler]Spoiler Text[/spoiler]
>Highlight/Quote Text
[pre]Preformatted & Monospace Text[/pre]
[super]Superset Text[/super]
[sub]Subset Text[/sub]
1. Numbered lists become ordered lists
* Bulleted lists become unordered lists
File

Sandwich


420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Semantic Domains

View Thread Reply
- Sun, 13 May 2018 00:02:52 EST tkutlT9X No.12920
File: 1526184172984.png -(1588822B / 1.52MB, 640x944) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Semantic Domains
So, what's a better semantic domain to use against the idea of Language Relativity than colors?

I'm thinking emotions would work. They're universal, but require thought to distinguish, unlike color recognition, which is instinctual. That said, I can't really think of any language that distinguishes emotions differently than English and Spanish, the only two languages I speak.

Penny for your thoughts, /lang/.
>>
Fanny Biffingkire - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 03:36:54 EST pfV1k0Io No.12935 Reply
Pastoralists have many words for shades of color. The brown, white, yellow, grey, brown range can be absolutely huge. As you probably knew, most color systems don't distinguish blue from green. Black, white, red, yellow, green-blue, brown are the most stable. Grey is common. Pink is rare. Orange is basically unknown. There are a class of colors derived from plant and animal products eg. indigo, marron, lilac. These are always young and easy borrowed.

Emotional states may be universal but only the basic ones have specific roots. The usual rendition for higher emotional states is periphrasis with reference to "heart", "mind", "body", "eye". They don't say happy, they say "heart-pleased", they don't say snarky/irreverent, they say "hard-eyed", they don't say sad/depressed, they say "broken-hearted", they don't say brave but "heart-y". Furthermore, these expressions don't always translate to the same thing. "Heartlessness" means cruelty as in English but licentiousness in another language (and also conceivably cowardly).

This way of expressing feelings is productive in English when we don't use core emotions, verbal roots or borrowed words.

Semantic range of most expression is relative. The question is one o f degree. If there is no need for something to be distinguished, it doesn't get distinguished. Thus, lots of languages don't create words for digits greater than 5. 10, 20 and 100 numerals derive from roots meaning greatness or totality. This isn't merely limited to intangibles, distinguishing between lips-mouth, hand-arm, hand-leg is globally more absent than it is present.

I'm not sure why you feel motivated to challenge this. It's just more parsimonious to be relativistic.
>>
Charles Packlefut - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 00:23:26 EST 7+szUJXv No.12943 Reply
>>12935
I'm no linguist but I was wandering around on Wikipedia back then and I felt a vulnerability in this line of study. I'm just some layman, I can't really look into this concept properly, so I decided to consult this board and hopefully catch the attention of someone who could maybe make something of this idea, or at least put my mind at ease. Thank you for that, by the way.

I feel that perhaps the geopgraphic locations where languages develop, and the circumstances in which they develop, affect the way certain languages categorize objects, and that no situation is ideal for preparing a language to be perfectly comprehensive when describing classes of things such as plants and animals. Not everything lives everywhere, do people who live far away from anything venomous, like the Inuit, have words for poison?

Because of this like, natural gap in our knowledge, people applied the words they have to new concepts and we end up with shit like the family groups of Wittgenstein. I wonder how much scientific progress has been held back by our inability to properly handle things that don't quite fit in our categorizing, things like Echidnas and suicide trees/suicide plants.

I apologize, I'm in way over my head with these idle thoughts. But I can't really be satisfied with parsimony in science. I'm kinda hoping that I can loop someone sho knows what the fuck they are doing into pursuing these ideas further, just in case I'm onto something here and there's insight to be discovered down this road.

..............

View Thread Reply
- Fri, 11 Aug 2017 21:59:07 EST h2SYV0kE No.12855
File: 1502503147756.jpg -(46092B / 45.01KB, 585x307) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. ..............
Do we need so many different punctuation marks. Could we not use one punctuation mark. and the context would tell us what it.s supposed to indicate.
8 posts and 3 images omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Hedda Pishwater - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 20:08:06 EST j1bLKHv0 No.12931 Reply
When texting, theres so much you can display with emojis. Being ironic, embarrassed about asking something, saying something jokingly, being unseriously siggestive while still indicating a level of seriousness. I rarely use punctuation when texting people. Emojis to me are what indicate inflection in the voice. I think the amount of punctuatiom we have is satisfactory, especially with emojis.
>>
Fanny Biffingkire - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 02:05:20 EST pfV1k0Io No.12934 Reply
having studied monocase, vowel-unmarked, Old South Arabian epigraphy where the only punctuation mark is the "word" boundary

you can fuck right off mate

the more the merrier

Mandarin music?

View Thread Reply
- Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:30:15 EST QpPIe/nL No.7196
File: 1342650615333.jpg -(406744B / 397.21KB, 1164x871) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Mandarin music?
I require music in Chinese. MANDARIN please for the love of God. I find most Canto music is better, but Canto is not what I'm learning :/ Preferably not pop music, its all I ever seem to be able to find.

Is there anything more new-wavey, like Neon Indian, or alternative? Lo-fi beach pop like The Raveonettes or Best Coast, rap, whatever, just.. nothing that's going to remind me of N*SYNC plz.

Is this kind of like asking for good movies from China? Not happening?
31 posts and 3 images omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Sidney Gadgefield - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:54:03 EST j1bLKHv0 No.12929 Reply
>>7196
If youre okay with rap then look up higher brothers on spotify. Shits fuckin cash.

Favorites by them are isabellae, aston martin, made in china (not the remix), and wechat.

Finnish

View Thread Reply
- Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:47:59 EST 4HnKYQAn No.12641
File: 1471747679333.png -(263074B / 256.91KB, 500x334) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Finnish
I cannot, for the life of me, find an answer for a simple question on any of the sites on which I study.
I generally know when to use the nominative, accusative and partitive, except for the verb "to be." I at one point thought it would just be the nominative, ex. "Se on taulukko. It is a table" from skimming walls of finnish text, but I later read that the accusative may sometimes look like the nominative. I have no idea which case ending I should use with "olla" as the verb, and it seems so fundamental to everyday speech that I want to get it straight in my mind.
>inb4 learn a useful language
Finnish is wierd and fascinating, albeit useless.
6 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Clara Drubberlat - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:39:35 EST PZICZQ5a No.12717 Reply
>>12682
Also I think Iso suomen kieloppi is good. It's descriptive grammar for those who can read Finnish
>>
Oliver Brondlestone - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:17:04 EST VU9VXUdS No.12917 Reply
>>12641
Okay, I've been living in Finland for five months, so I know a decent bit of finnish.

With olla you use nominative when you refer to a quality of something definite (ruoka on valmis 'THE food is ready' vs ruokaa on valmista '[some] food is ready').

Also, partitive when adscribing abstract qualities (mun isäni on insinööri 'my father is an engineer' vs mun isäni on surullista 'my father is sad').

You never use genitive-like accusative as complement of verb olla.
>>
Alice Gezzlefuck - Sun, 20 May 2018 04:32:29 EST mN1MzBjb No.12924 Reply
>>12917

*mun isäni on surullinen
"Surullista" is something you usually use when you comment on something ie. This is sad \ tämä on surullista
Source: am native speaker but I have forgotten most of the fancy words like accusative allitive etc.

我们抽了大麻每天

View Thread Reply
- Wed, 09 Apr 2014 03:49:16 EST wHm1akGe No.11230
File: 1397029756595.jpg -(37219B / 36.35KB, 545x363) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 我们抽了大麻每天
可以我们有一个普通化谈话吧?

我可以做的更好啊!
6 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
George Clayshaw - Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:17:09 EST mmfTNKPc No.12906 Reply
1521047829400.png -(700065B / 683.66KB, 650x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
>>11408
I was in the middle of responding to this but then I realized that I posted it.

Fuck.. nearly 4 years ago now
>>
Jack Penderlit - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 20:38:46 EST VsDbYFh5 No.12909 Reply
你好
我是苏格兰人我不是英国人我的工作是英文老师
>>
Henry Dartforth - Sat, 12 May 2018 23:08:20 EST tkutlT9X No.12918 Reply
1526180900984.jpg -(75616B / 73.84KB, 900x597) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
>>12906
lmao that slow imageboard feel

Kinda crazy how these places can be a time capsule you end up arguing with.

pic related my mind is blown

My parents found this in a hotel

View Thread Reply
- Tue, 10 Apr 2018 00:53:46 EST +f8TxzFZ No.12912
File: 1523336026533.jpg -(3231446B / 3.08MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. My parents found this in a hotel
What does it mean?
>>
Lillian Pittfield - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:01:29 EST qWxf60X3 No.12913 Reply
It means someone was practicing the Gurmukhi alphabet.

looking for a Japanese friend/roommate

View Thread Reply
- Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:14:35 EST l7x7rpAe No.12905
File: 1520961275772.jpg -(24279B / 23.71KB, 425x378) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. looking for a Japanese friend/roommate
I live in a studio apartment right outside new york. Does anyone know anyone Japanese looking for a place to stay ill only charge a 100 a month for rent and ill negotiate if thats not doable. I really just need someone who knowz Japanese to teach me our help me out.
>>
Esther Goshwen - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 08:55:53 EST zZKfyLCM No.12914 Reply
There are so many resources online for finding a speaking partner, Google around.

Why Latin is useful

View Thread Reply
- Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:15:44 EST ZtJh40Yw No.11921
File: 1419196544367.jpg -(130503B / 127.44KB, 333x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why Latin is useful
  1. Helps with understanding of Romance languages across the board.

2. Allows you to read historical documents from centuries ago. Not all of them have been translated into English or any contemporary language--there is a wealth of information which exists only in Latin.

3. Useful for understanding legal, philosophical, and scientific terminology.

4. It's fun.
9 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Jack Brookson - Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:11:23 EST FSpFf/PB No.11963 Reply
>>11958

>I think it's ridiculous how many people wish to use it for communicative purposes

That sounds like a lot of fun, and I'm sure people who view it that way also find it fun. Different strokes and all that.
>>
Graham Hangershit - Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:20:58 EST 7eexnvjt No.11969 Reply
>>11963
It does sound like fun, but it's too impractical. It's every Latin student's wish to be fluent in the language and to maintain Ciceronian dialogues within it, but it's difficult in that the language is not modern. This leads to gaps in vocabulary, where we cannot discuss things such as computers and television shows unless we agree on the words to be used beforehand.

Besides, one thing that must be mentioned: the Latin that is studied in schools is hardly reflective of the Latin spoken by the average Roman. The "Classical" variety that we all know was a highly polished form that only the educated Romans spoke. Your average Roman would have spoken Vulgar Latin, which is of a drastically different character, being much simpler. A good friend once made the analogy that studying Latin by reading Caesar, Catullus, and Ovid is like studying English by reading Shakespeare.
>>
Cyril Pinderlotch - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:25:53 EST o6BAGsFK No.12907 Reply
Is that chick a naga?

smoke weed everyday in other languages

View Thread Reply
- Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:34:17 EST ORtpm4VC No.9025
File: 1364517257889.gif -(129769B / 126.73KB, 80x80) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. smoke weed everyday in other languages
毎日マリファナをすう!
(mainichi marifana o suu~)
128 posts and 27 images omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Shitting Chibberlock - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 09:09:00 EST O3/U+ilN No.12801 Reply
κάπνιζε φούντα κάθε μέρα
>>
Priscilla Bardspear - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 08:23:38 EST dr9JF6EZ No.12810 Reply
1493382218626.jpg -(29148B / 28.46KB, 520x351) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
PÉNIS PARTOUT

Gàidhlig

View Thread Reply
- Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:59:55 EST tkutlT9X No.12891
File: 1516939195523.png -(15210B / 14.85KB, 1024x614) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Gàidhlig
Scottish Gaelic, that's my next big language to learn. I'm well aware of how fucky learning Goidelic languages gets, though so I am not sure where to start course wise.

Does anyone here have experience with the language? What resources did you use?

Japanese Books

View Thread Reply
- Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:05:34 EST a/wB2zDw No.12843
File: 1501232734059.png -(613266B / 598.89KB, 1093x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Japanese Books
Anime and Manga are useful for study because they're for children, but they're also fucking boring, I get most of my time with the language from music or talking to guys on the internet about arcade games. I'd love to try my hand at reading some actual good literature in the language, but aside from Haruki Murakami and that nazi who stabbed the guy who even knows any Japanese authors.

Anybody got anything to reccomend? I could post this on /lit/ but whatever.

I'll see y'all in 3 months when I remember to check this board
>>
Rebecca Broblingpag - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:48:36 EST /oXqVk34 No.12887 Reply
>>12843
I've only read translations, but I really like Natsume Soseki. Both I am a cat and Kokoro are really neat, started on Botchan a while back too and it seems good as well.

Also, No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai is great.

Learning hindi

View Thread Reply
- Sun, 05 Feb 2017 20:02:52 EST AjDaCfIo No.12739
File: 1486342972811.gif -(16634B / 16.24KB, 531x628) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Learning hindi
Anyone here have any suggestions for learning hindi? Best methods, resources, etc. There seems to be less out there for learning hindi than other languages, but it doesn't seem all that much harder than any other indo-european language.
>>
Emma Herringstog - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:55:25 EST T6RKVOrd No.12884 Reply
came here for this, was not disappoint.

To piggyback: My brown friends say something that sounds like "jolly african-american" very often... kinda like NI GAH and I'm curious to find out what that means.

Symbol identfication

View Thread Reply
- Tue, 09 May 2017 17:36:33 EST HujR2Eru No.12812
File: 1494365793840.png -(137158B / 133.94KB, 455x391) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Symbol identfication
Do you think this is japanese? Does anyone recognize these symbols?
4 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Matilda Dupperwin - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 08:07:47 EST 3UeT/0lX No.12840 Reply
>>12837
did this comment make chester bennington commit suicide? discuss.
>>
Fucking Mecklestone - Thu, 03 Aug 2017 05:35:52 EST CFUOu1ho No.12844 Reply
First character looks like 女 or 丈 depending on what the orientation is, the second character looks like an early seal-script type of character


Report Post
Reason
Note
Please be descriptive with report notes,
this helps staff resolve issues quicker.