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this month for me; JP s0me FR

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- Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:32:38 EST qqFv6N96 No.11880
File: 1417231958152.jpg -(2461488B / 2.35MB, 3674x2771) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. this month for me; JP s0me FR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r05ropOnt3s luca and intonation
http://www.lingholic.com/actors-can-teach-us-learning-foreign-language/

http://www.lingholic.com/6-memory-strategies-supercharge-your-learning/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFpzeGoP-Kg

http://marimoeo.seesaa.net/ podcast hokkaido ben
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_phonetic_alphabet alpha romeo victor of japan helps you visuals the syllibry
https://soundcloud.com/dj-kro hiphop is never boring
http://japanesepokemon.wordpress.com/ i use pokemon
and learn on yami with these http://blog.livedoor.jp/agraphlog-asamegraph/temp/pokehyaku.html
http://japaneseclass.jp/
http://www.flrmethod.com/themethod/
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1269450669

i mimic peoples voices. satirize there mannerism. make all vocabulary a story got the idea from dominic o'brian perfect memory

for example my why of remembering my ARRET.. imagine your little brother is bugging you. hey hey hey hey and youve had enough AAARET( and you make that throut sound) BUT spit flys all over his face. your mom sees you and smacks you sooo hard you go into Cardiac Arrest

or you in the subway and you are racist towards a chinese guy and fuck it you push him infront of the train and and AAAAhhhret that crunch

Question is this useful to you

Pseudo-intellectual internet "linguists"

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- Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:21:22 EST fa47rx37 No.8677
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Stop this, you pseudo-intellectual faggots.

English has many many words that other languages don't have. Also, this isn't a word, not even a compound. I can just start saying "elevating spirit" or some shit too. Stop downplaying English when you find other languages as if they are the arc of the bloody covenant or something and somehow inherently superior to English because they have a few words or phrases that English doesn't use/have in the same manner.
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Faggy Bockleway - Fri, 14 Nov 2014 15:00:49 EST LN34p4C8 No.11852 Reply
>>11851
What a horrifically eurocentric assessment!

You did a great job but answered the question how grammatical gender evolved in PIE but not why grammatical gender is needed. Uralic and Turkic languages never parse their words for gender; they even have gender neutral pronouns. Afro-Asiatic languages also have grammatical gender although there's evolved independently from PIE's. Coincidently, the (classical) Arabic feminine ending ة was also a glottal fricative (h) and is still written as such but these days you just pronounce a or at.

Sophie Nabbersare is correct in thinking grammatical gender has no extricable purpose. It once did in PIE did but it's nothing more than a vestigial feature.
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Frederick Chundlelock - Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:17:18 EST +5oX0u2R No.11879 Reply
>>11850

it often makes it more clear what you are referring to exactly when you say "it"
depends on the language.
Is it necessary, no. is it useful? yes. considering how easy it is for kids to learn it anyway there is no reason not to have like 20 genders.. and there are some languages that have genders in the double digits
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Nathaniel Gerrysteck - Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:39:27 EST 4wV/INP8 No.11900 Reply
>>8679
I wish we did. All this character, personality and individuality repulses me. It's disgustingly inefficient.

WRITTEN Language

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- Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:16:11 EST 24ygmyw9 No.11555
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Native Hindi and English speaker here . However I am learning the north Indian script . I can read Urdu - which is mutually intelligible but uses Arabic alphabet .

So got to thinking . Even tho i only speak 2 languages i can read 4 scripts : Latin Greek Arab Devnagar

So what spoken languages and what scripts are you fluent and what you want to learn ? Aside from the above I know a little spanish and franch but nowhere near fluent. As far as writing chinese interests me .
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Albert Gaggledale - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:23:07 EST Wrogz3dW No.11754 Reply
>>11555
I am trying to learn Japanese kanji, plus their hiragana & katakana scripts..

Good luck with Urdu, OP!
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Shitting Niggerdale - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:53:38 EST GqsP0ZtK No.11858 Reply
>>11812
I would be interested to know how a dyslexic manages with japanese writing! My friend said ages ago that it's not a problem in Japan, so their literacy is way higher than the UK.

Blah is the langauge of......

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- Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:46:24 EST 4+ObrLLz No.8949
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As languages are sometimes associcated with nouns, Like french is the language of love, (well that is the only one i know) or italien is the language of music, german of philosophy!
Then wat are languages (in particular Farsi, if ye know) or any langauge at all?
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Esther Dindlewidge - Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:37:06 EST F8xE90or No.11663 Reply
Danish is the language of incomprehensible drunks
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moxie !QvI1p9.OFY - Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:03:08 EST avmU74pl No.11856 Reply
>>11520
no, lithuanian is the language of stoic assholes
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Emma Cubberhall - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 00:17:12 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11857 Reply
Japanese is the language of romance. Why? Because my japanese teacher said so.

And english is the language of nouns. Because other languages use the word "substantive".

help

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- Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:13:24 EST NSiA5J4q No.11560
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I'm not a native English speaker and I want to start reading English novels but i'm afraid of not being able to read some of its words, especially the vowel words that seem like they have the short vowel sound but in reality the vowels or some are long.
How do you guys figure this out?
Are they rules?
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CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:13:12 EST p/0MewD3 No.11854 Reply
>>11853
Yes, I'm a native English speaker. I don't really see or understand the pronunciations; I just "speak" the words inside my head as I read them so I can hear the different pronunciations.
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Eliza Demmleford - Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:58:57 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11855 Reply
>>11854
Thanks for the reply. I guess that's something that also comes with fluency, since I don't really have to think about the different rules (or deviances) either. I have just memorized everything phonetically. But it's still very apparent how "illogical" english can be at times, when I only merely look at the words.
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Cyril Semblehedge - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:26:25 EST xLdweCCV No.11870 Reply
>>11838
this, but it can be any american (or british, i don't know what you want) media. just be sure to use subtitles, they are a must.
the correct answer is the simpsons though

Looking for a few honorable Klingons for linguistics research

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- Sun, 09 Nov 2014 22:58:23 EST riuwJDLT No.11845
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(X-POST /1701/

Looking for a few volunteers from all linguistic backgrounds- anyone with a decent microphone. Read from a deck of flash cards 5 times and you're done. I haven't completely designed the deck just yet, but I don't expect it to be too long, and it'll be a mix of single words and short phrases- all utterances common in Klingon.
It's not paid (like most good research work should be) but for those interested, I can follow up with the final product (something like 10 pages?). This paper will hopefully mark the end of my academic career, so, Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam!

Learning Mandarin

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- Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:19:18 EST 03QHJwUF No.11757
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Hello, is there a site similar to duolingo.com that I can use to learn to speak Mandarin?

(I am just trying to learn conversation and pinyin, learning the characters is quite an undertaking)
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Graham Hoshbury - Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:17:57 EST dJPTibKY No.11803 Reply
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hskflashcards com is pretty good if you decide to learn some characters.
This is a pretty slow board so might as well make it /mandarin/ since there are never threads for it on /int/

Ni hao!
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Sophie Dimmerlock - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:53:36 EST wHm1akGe No.11818 Reply
>>11757
我也再学习中文。 你可以看节目《舌尖上的中国》和《爸爸去哪儿》
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Martin Clungermadge - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:36:40 EST mgnE7JTe No.11819 Reply
NI HAO, WO HUE JONG WEN!

SHAO SHIN I DIEN!

BU HAO ISSU!

MEI SHUR, ZAI JIEN!

thats what ive learned so far

I Need Immersion

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- Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:23 EST GZrW1Uha No.11737
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Please help me find japanese audio tracks of just people talking. nothing more. thanks in advance!
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Rebecca Blumbledadge - Sun, 12 Oct 2014 17:24:26 EST j4Qk1zGk No.11778 Reply
watch NHK and anime with subtitles
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Isabella Narringson - Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:32:17 EST qBI904is No.11779 Reply
Look up whatever interests you in Japanese in iTunes, then hit up podcasts. You'll be set for years with how much free content there is. Also, you don't need to switch to the Japanese iTunes store to search podcasts since they're all free.

Korean & Japanese or Korean v. Japanese

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- Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:11:26 EST jJy382Y2 No.11787
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I'm trying to get my life together after many months of idle alcoholism. I've basically been on an extended gap year. And I am wondering if it is worth the time to take Korean and Japanese together for business and cultural purposes. Or just one language.

I already know enough French,German,and Spanish to travel or if need be enough to practice and become fluent enough to conduct business. So should I study both Japanese and Korean for the winter semester since I would be going to class everyday in a condensed amount of time. Or just one.

I live in Los Angeles and there is a huge Korean Community and a sizeable Japanese community.
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Basil Snodhood - Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:30:29 EST Z1v+SCTB No.11788 Reply
I'll give every bit of advice I can, but my experience with Korean is mostly academic and impersonal.



They have very... tense relations. Not that that should matter.

Both languages are drastically unlike French, Spanish, or German, though the phonologies and grammars are a little like the mixed.

They're at similar difficulty levels, though Korean is just a little harder. They have very similar grammars, similar phonotactics, and similar pitch/stress/timing patterns, but they have different phonologies; Japanese is like a simpler Spanish, but Korean has a lot more, including altaic vowels (an ö and ü broken into we and üi, an unrounded u, which to be fair is the default allophone of /u/ in Japanese). Japanese has a very rigid 5 vowel system, but Korean has a 7 vowel system where the near open vowels have slid to more close positions. Korean has 3 rows of stop consonants - ptk and bdg like us, but also a set of tense consonants in the places of ptk too where you tighten your throat. (graphically, <pp><tt><kk> and the non-stop <ss>; eg dal means moon, tal means mask, and ttal means daughter). Korean even has traces of vowel harmony, but that's simple enough.

Writing systems add a whole bunch of difficulty points back to Japan, evening things out. Korean uses an alphabet like ours, except the syllables are scrunched up into blocks. Chinese characters are used only very rarely now in SK, usually in scientific things to distinguish homographs (like boohoo tear and shred tear). There's usually 1:1 correspondence spelling wise; their alphabet, and thus their writing system, was historically put down but today championed as a writing system you could learn in a day.

Japan on the other hand uses a syllabary, where each "letter" represents one whole unique syllable (it's simpler phonology, though, means this isn't quite as crazy as it would be for English or even Korean). Except it doesn't just use one syllabary, it uses 2. And to top that off, it uses Chinese characters unsparingly, so you have to know those. There's some patterns you can gleam from the Chinese-derived pronunciations of the characters (oh yeah, there's usually two, often more pronunciations of the characters), but because Japan evolved independently, most of the characters have no patterns whatsoever to their pronunciations. You really have to suck it up and memorize.



Business wise, I think you could find a life either way. Though I do have a feeling that at least relatively speaking, weebs flooded the Japanese market, making Korean a superior choice. Japan's economy is staring down the barrel of gun too - its population is growing older, it suffers from an untapped workforce because men are expected to do things like 15 hour work days while women are expected to be stay at home, the people in charge are all really really old too so they're stubborn and uncompromising. But all of that's also true of South Korea, except they're riding the economic rollercoster Japan rode about 20 years behind. The major economic difference between the two will come whether or not the North falls; you really shouldn't bet on it, however.

More socially...

Both Korea and Japan have very... well, I see it as phoney systems of politeness. Korea really stresses things from a Confucian POV and Japan really stresses things from a... well, Japanese POV. Japan's is like 100 times more intense, though - never ever insult your superiors unless they're not around. Don't make your "team" look bad, but be humble when its just yourself. I don't know. Korean is a lot like that, but much less "you're a white boy and don't know what you're doing but we're gonna think you're rude anyways". In my very very limited experience. What I'm more used to is Chinese good-natured bluntness, and I hear Koreans can be very blunt but I've not noticed it much. Again though, very very limited experience.


Politics and things people care about are... odd. Both have very conservative societies. Japan's left is louder than it's right but it's right is naturally older and thus more populous. Japanese people *really* hate koreans because of the zainichi population, but of course that roughly correlates to an individual's politics. Japan is a little more proud of its left, however.

Things in Korea are understandably batshit considering the other Korea. The country was a relatively brutal but efficient right wing dictatorship until the 90s, when it democratized. That really polarized the left, to the point where they romanticized North Korea. Now if you somehow became Korean and voted, you're torn between the Dictator's Daughter (the current president) and the North Korean apologists.


But you're really not going to vote in either country - both have a very ethnocentric view of citizenship and nationalism. Both are extremely homogenous to the point of xenophobia, though Japan's getting a little more violent as it struggles to adapt, since its starting to give a cm of ground on the issue. But if you make your opinions on things known, Koreans are a little more... unable to bring themselves to be friendly to those they strongly disagree with than the Japanese, though this is really not that major a thing.
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Martin Nattingstone - Sun, 19 Oct 2014 01:16:57 EST RTil2obd No.11792 Reply
Just a hobby/academically go for it, they are difficult and will consume a lot of time. I did a year of Japanese in college and have since forgotten most of it, the 3 alphabets thing didn't really bother fsr it just kinda clicked with me, because only certian types of words are spelled with a certain alphabet.

Both culture are extraordinarily xenophobic and your chances of living/working there are basically zero, but being so isolated they produce a ton of their own media, no I'm not just talking about anime, so you'll have lots of ways to absorb the language/culture.

Uploding Latin course.

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- Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:32:53 EST fGC+CkpF No.11610
File: 1408048373263.jpg -(52694B / 51.46KB, 400x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Uploding Latin course.
Hello, /lang/. Are any of you interested in learning Latin? I've been recently cleaning out my house and stumbled upon some of my old Latin textbooks. If any of you want, I can put all the information into a pastebin to share with you all.
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Edwin Fisslelin - Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:38:46 EST zDy+3X47 No.11747 Reply
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Your thread makes Caesar die.
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Jenny Desslehood - Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:02:11 EST ix0FBFjU No.11786 Reply
Interested here, but WHERE IS OP
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Charlotte Femmlegold - Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:44:55 EST Z1v+SCTB No.11797 Reply
OP est canaedus

Corpus Linguistics

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- Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:59:12 EST YpxqR+QJ No.11781
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Have you heard of it?

Tried it?

I'm very curious.. It's a systematic breakdown of single paragraphs/phrases in order to learn the context of vocabulary and sentence structure of that language? It seems that anybody with a true willingness to learn a language will inevitably end up doing this. It's why one would want to watch a foreign film in the language they're learning, attempt to read newspaper articles, write poems, songs, etc.
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Clara Candergold - Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:36:07 EST OCB4hcwz No.11783 Reply
just reading about what it is scared the shit out me. this looks hard as nuts, and its something i wouldnt touch with a 20inch pole.
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Graham Soshtere - Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:25:28 EST dgpaNSaa No.11784 Reply
OP, you do understand that linguistics is not the learning of languages, right? When people talk about corpus linguistics, they're talking about analyzing corpora with an emphasis on the analyzing. If you're doing things like POS tagging, it is a truly awful way to study a language that's already well documented.
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Henry Hallerhedge - Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:21:10 EST vOuS2D9s No.11811 Reply
>>11781

my understanding is you understand what it is for, one of us is really wrong

imagine you already have a really high level of English, difficult, I know

Now you are writing an essay and you want to say they "had" an election.. but then you think.. wait a minute! there's a better way to say this! but the word won't come to you, you have been writing all day. you look it up and you see.. ah, you "hold" an election. Walla!

It's useful for a million things along these lines. When you're a beginner and you are doing exercises in a grammar book, the fill in the gaps exercises most likely all came from a corpus like that.


Sitting down and reading it would be along the lines of sitting down and reading the Internet.

German translations for me?

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- Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:41:10 EST 8cqzfMaE No.11664
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Would someone proficient in German be so kind as to translate the song names from Crystal Castles II?

>Fainting Spells
>Celestica (do it the best you can)
>Doe Deer
>Baptism
>Year of Silence
>Empathy
>Suffocation
>Violent Dreams
>Vietnam
>Birds
>Pap Smear
>Not in Love
>Intimate
>I Am Made of Chalk

I don't want to just use a shitty online translator.

Thanks!
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Jack Gonkindock - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:26:19 EST NqJL1ymG No.11670 Reply
>>11669
Ohmachts Episode for the first I think I was drunk when I typed this
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Priscilla Biblingson - Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:36:46 EST 144YlSuj No.11772 Reply
>>11668
Suffocation = Erstickung
*gewalttätige Träume
*Ich bin aus Kreide gemacht

ITT explain why english is the best language

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- Sun, 07 Sep 2014 14:54:36 EST Zc5d8Gm+ No.11675
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in your own opinion, plz don't stay a shit war about Spanish and mandarin again for the billionth time
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Nicholas Fadgespear - Mon, 27 Oct 2014 17:19:53 EST j8qnAVzG No.11814 Reply
top kek, almost every other language around the globe allows the speaker to be more specific & to find the correct _shade_ of expression they should use according to the situation, offering 9001 times larger vocab. English is just too simple. It's not even in the 3rd leauge of epic languages.

learning Spanish

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- Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:07:51 EST PZ6JLEYk No.11489
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HEY I would really like to learn Spanish. Can you guys provide some links or hints that have proven to work?
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Isabella Dicklepat - Sun, 14 Sep 2014 20:07:50 EST dG4CW9sx No.11703 Reply
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>>11645
>>11654

no mamen, ustedes no hablan con acentos?
seguro se meten en muchos malentendidos.

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