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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Are there still jobs for translators and interpreters?

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- Sun, 06 Aug 2017 09:33:59 EST 3UeT/0lX No.12846
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I did an introductory translation course but I never followed it up because it became very clear that I'd spend the next 10 years of my life competing with people happy to be paid 1 euro an hour on oDesk, and after that probably just be replaced with computers.

Am I wrong? It is very much the area where my skills lie, I'm good at studying languages and I really enjoy it, but I think there is no point in getting the DipTrans or a masters in translation because there is no future in translation.

Interpreting will last longer, surely? What about that? What language pairs are most in demand I wonder...
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Beatrice Snodridge - Tue, 08 Aug 2017 16:41:45 EST FFL47ufi No.12849 Reply
You are absolutely wrong about translators jobs being replaced by computers. People trust humans over computers any day of the week.

Interpreting sure. Pays really well if you know an EU language. And certainly in the UK if you can interpret for sign language you've got job security for life.
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Samuel Deffingshaw - Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:10:52 EST IWuTMAIO No.12864 Reply
>>12849
I don't think I am wrong, when I started learning Spanish just 6 years ago the going rate for a translation was 26 cents a word, and google translator was unheard of. Now the going rate for a human is 2-5cents a word, outsourcing and google translator seem to have destroyed this industry.

I live in Ireland, there are no free resources for learning ISL, classes are expensive, a degree in it takes years and has 90% drop out rate, and it isn't an official language so there aren't that many jobs in it.

I would like to be an interpreter, yes indeed.
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George Duddlelock - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 10:08:04 EST 1ps++g6d No.12867 Reply
>>12864
>interpreter in Ireland
Who would even want to go to Ireland in the first place? Move to another country, learn the language and there's your translator job.

Dead languages

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- Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:24:31 EST uDveC9em No.12186
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What is the best way to learn relatively obscure dead languages? I'm interested in learning either Coptic or Koine Greek (or both?) for religious study, though I'm largely lacking in resources. I've found some Coptic PDFs around the internet and a scan of Introduction to Sahidic Coptic, but that doesn't seem like enough to successfully learn how to read Gnostic scriptures. And I don't have any resources at all for Koine. Does anyone here know anything about these?

I'm also interested in Mesopotamian stuff, but Akkadian and Sumerian seem like they'd be more difficult to learn.
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Charlie of the Chans !!kWjRhGF5 - Sun, 11 Jun 2017 15:28:07 EST bqvF7HID No.12820 Reply
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I would imagine that turnover on this board is slow. However, I posted two separate .zips of Coptica at my current cloud service. I don't think that I'm allowed to post direct links, so please follow the Paste Bin link, here:

https://pastebin.com/NLtZEQqh
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Charlie of the Chans !!kWjRhGF5 - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:16:13 EST bqvF7HID No.12841 Reply
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>>12820
These links are still active.
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Edwin Weddlemin - Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:55:27 EST 3U+IF4Ig No.12859 Reply
>>12186
Hey OP, I'm a grad student in the Classics. I am pretty good at Attic and Latin, and I've got some good news: free resources for learning both abound. I know you said you are more interested in learning Koine, but I think the real reason to start with Attic is simply that the learning tools are more accessible and available. You can absolutely learn outside of school, so long as you have discipline! All it'll take is about 30 minutes - 1 hour a day, every day for a year or so and you'll be reading in no time.

Pick any starting Attic textbook (I used Hanson & Quinn as a beginner; there are however literally hundreds of great places to start) and after that just download pdfs of "intermediate readers" like Geoffery Steadman's (google him -- his stuff is all free) until you feel comfortable reading!

Good luck!

Super Advanced Spanish

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- Thu, 19 May 2016 09:55:02 EST CDym3DV1 No.12589
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I want to do the Dele C1 or C2 exam and I need resources, I'm willing to spend a bit of money but not buy all of the few courses an books out there. So what do you recommend? what are the best resources?

Chulo-points if they are free

pic unrelated

inb4:
at your level you just need to read any native speaker test and you will somehow magically achieve perfection without hard work
NO
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Lydia Bardhall - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 20:45:25 EST PMClDcwJ No.12854 Reply
>>12589
I think you learn a language by using it, so why don't you start transcribing one or two words of a Spanish novel every day, read out loud as you write. Other than that I don't know, build vocabulary with flashcards or reading the news.
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Samuel Deffingshaw - Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:13:24 EST IWuTMAIO No.12865 Reply
You have no idea how incredibly easy reading a novel or watching the news is compared to doing a standardised test.

Mandarin self-learning

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- Tue, 02 Aug 2016 07:08:37 EST VsaRwmTc No.12618
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I need some kind of tone-learning program for Mandarin that I could turn on and practice daily. No money here, so it has to be free or piratable. ;_;

In exchange I recommend Mitchel Thomas method for basic Chinese. Way better learning curve, than most other stuff.
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Phineas Blackleman - Sat, 22 Oct 2016 21:08:41 EST IAKVe98s No.12686 Reply
>>12634
Any chance you were there for that huge explosion?

I saw it in the distance from my flat and for real I thought that war had broke out.

Scary shit anon
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Anita Flowershitter - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 08:02:08 EST ux7B0QWz No.12735 Reply
>>12618
just bundle together an anki deck and download a mass of audio files for a bunch of words and you're set, god lazy people.
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Fuck Chozzlelod - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:38:42 EST +F2vCjEb No.12852 Reply
Look up Glossika. They have courses in Mandarin, Cantonese, Hakka, Wenzhounese and aiwanese Hokkien.

It's a lot of audio, reading and writing. Even if you're lazy you can absorb a lot of audio files

Lane's Arabic Lexicon

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!!1kyp2YGl - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 21:16:49 EST bqvF7HID No.12842
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I've uploaded all eight volumes of Edward Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon at Zippyshare in three separate .zip files. The third one has two related dictionaries included. If your into learning Classical Arabic, Lane's is still the go-to. He began it in 1845; this is a reprint made in Lebanon in 1968. I'm happy to say that the mods said it was okay for me to direct link to where they're at - and they're at Zippyshare. Links are good for 30 days after today, 07/26/2017 So, here ya go, then:

http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/6meHyNgN/file.html

http://www58.zippyshare.com/v/Nrk2htMt/file.html

http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/12EFAyWL/file.html

Improve English

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- Tue, 04 Jul 2017 06:38:54 EST /DtE5Ies No.12835
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Sup guys
I looking for people to chat. Wanna improve my English.
What about me, I'm 23 years male, live in Ukraine
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Albert Turveyforth - Sun, 09 Jul 2017 13:37:29 EST bzPhCF/J No.12836 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Sat, 12 Aug 2017 02:48:51 EST q7SetaZt No.12857 Reply
Вы хoрoшo гoвoритe пo-русский? I could chat but I need to improve my Russian too.

pimsleur is fucking boring

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- Mon, 07 Jul 2014 19:43:23 EST 3xDq++i+ No.11521
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I've been trying to teach myself Russian for about 6 months now. I figured I'd do it the same way I did spanish (finish rosetta stone, then read the news with the help of google translate, then watch movies I know well dubbed in it), but that hasn't worked out, either because the alphabet kind of slows things down or because it doesn't share as much vocabulary as English (thank you Roman Empire).

So I'm thinking I'll just brute force it with Pimsleur. Problem is, Pimsleur is boring as fuck. Is there anything I can do while Pimsleuring that can keep me from falling asleep without distracting me too much? Whoever can solve this problem wins a slice of Ukraine.
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nick bick !W76cpN/rSs - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:07:50 EST 9N+VDvBs No.12827 Reply
>>11521
The russian alphabet is easy for me but i cannot get down tenses or conjugation

Looking for a word

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- Sat, 30 Jul 2016 01:02:03 EST yc0TRzwz No.12613
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Google produces no results, and I'm looking for a specific english word for a story I'm doing. it'l most likely have the suffix of "cide"

What I'm looking for is the word that refers to the killing of an entire family. Wiping them out. Sons, daughters, aunts, everyone in that family that shares that last name so that bloodline would never continue. Would it be Genocide? I thought that word only applied to the killing of an entire race.
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David Gocklefuck - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 21:39:07 EST ZJoLioYR No.12791 Reply
We had a vocab thread a while back, and someone used a word for "the warmth from the sun on a cool day". Anyone remember that one?
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Polly Ponderchan - Fri, 26 May 2017 21:25:21 EST 6ok89Rdd No.12815 Reply
>>12613
This was posted almost a year ago, but...
I think the word suffix would be -machy (like the centauromachy, or tauromachy), so kinmachy perhaps?

Change my accent [FR To English]

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- Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:38:53 EST c4t3ew2h No.12630
File: 1471221533178.png -(161458B / 157.67KB, 480x366) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Change my accent [FR To English]
Hey guys,

Any serious, good audiobooks about learning new accents and especially overcoming your native one?

I'm French and although I try as much as I can to sound 'American' (i.e. basically some blend of what I heard and learnt), there's always that small French accent residue coming back that I really want to get rid of.

Currently it's really not bad at all, or so people tell me. But my true desire is to make it -almost- impossible to tell by -most- people.

I feel I'm jumping ahead here but I'd also love to be versatile and have more than that 'Standard American' accent I was talking about. I'd love to do a Boston accent, some New-Yorkers one, some ebonics, etc.

PS. Just in case, the reason I ask you this is because I'd love to do voice over work in America (I realize the chances are slim, but oh well). But it's hard to believe in when you transpire even a faint of the French accent.

One last random question: Is it me or do impoverished black people from the West Coast sound almost the same as those from the East Coast? Maybe I don't have the ear for that, but I always saw a big resemblance when I would listen to them talk.

Anyway I'm talking way too much now. I just really want to perfect my accent. Really, really badly.

Thanks a lot in advance and thanks for reading me thus far as well!
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David Gocklefuck - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 21:41:29 EST ZJoLioYR No.12792 Reply
I heard french people's mouths get permanently reshaped by all those nasal vowels. It may be impossible bub
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Rebecca Billingway - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:47:51 EST Rr05TByP No.12805 Reply
>>12630
Intonation is what will tell people if you are French or not, that is easier to fix than perfecting how you pronounce all the words as well as the spaces between them (e.g. He's a cat = he ZA cat. .. I can't think of proper examples now but there are places where Zs just appear out of no where)

Anyway this will be useful to you to practice individual words and their sounds:
manythings.org/pp/

and this will be useful for you to look up the pronunciation of words (recordings by natives):
forvo.com

Make sure you know the IPA, and make sure you get an American version not a British one.
Then practice every day, talk to yourself a lot, be a perfectionist about making each word sound as similar as your ear will let it sound.

Learning as an adult and not a child, you'll always have a bit of an accent, but you can make it almost inaudible with loads of work.

Kurmanci

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- Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:43:02 EST h0amfouo No.12806
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https://ypginternational.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/243/2016/07/Kurmanji-Basic.pdf

https://ypginternational.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/243/2016/07/Kurmanji_Kurdish_Fort_The_Beginners.pdf

http://www.bokan.de/laperekan/zman%20u%20ferheng/Englisch-Kermanji.pdf

https://quizlet.com/193547830/flashcards

https://quizlet.com/193712917/flashcards

http://www.17-minute-world-languages.com/en/kurdish/

Death of Sex

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- Sat, 25 Feb 2017 23:45:39 EST aJOvpW6s No.12787
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I'm looking for a word that would connotate the deletion, destruction, demise of the the concept of Sexuality, aesthetically, either through the suffixes '-cide,' or '-phagy;' or transformed as to be more easily used with '-phagus.'
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Graham Daddlebanks - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 00:47:19 EST TkO24V91 No.12803 Reply
>>12802
Damn auto-correct and failure to proofread. Eroticide?
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Simon Senderhedging - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:57:09 EST FjAbvXN/ No.12804 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE

learning fast

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- Sat, 29 Oct 2016 17:18:43 EST ab2kpKVs No.12697
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Never learned a new language before. Want to be atleast somewhat conversational in Spanish in ~2 months. I'd say this should be realistic as long I'm willing to devote some serious time to it right?

What would be the best methods/resources (preferably free) out there to study? Looking for somewhere to start.
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theawsu - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:38:56 EST 1cHaoIW+ No.12742 Reply
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I can't lie, the BBC languages website has a pretty neat webseries called 'Mi Vida Loca' that I used to watch the shit out of when I did year 7 Spanish. It's got a lot of useful stuff in it.

Going to western Poland - what languages are acceptable?

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- Thu, 08 Dec 2016 19:57:10 EST /Su9xYY4 No.12727
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Ok, so I'm off to Poland from the UK in a few weeks, for the first time ever - Wroclaw to be exact - and at first I was planning to use it as a gateway to Berlin, my ultimate destination for NYE, due to cheap flights and coach fares, but I had a quick browse of some pics and a read of the wiki page and it seems like quite a nice place in itself.

So I've decided to hang out there for a day or two first, and possibly even spend NYE there instead, mainly because Berlin, while fun, will be super expensive and likely full of hipstery tourists... So I've started having a look at Polish.

The language is brand new to me, but I have a good grasp of German, and a higher than average level of English; I also know a little French and Spanish. I am planning to learn Polish anyway, as I'm planning to explore Poland more in the coming year, but didn't expect to be staying there this soon - I did have an idea that I could maybe get by with German in the west, maybe not so much further east, but a friend who's just returned from travelling around the Krakow area (south central) advised me not to bother with German at all, and just use English and Polish...

So now I'm a little confused, and there's no way I can learn enough Polish between now and NYE to be confident enough to try using it when I go then.

Any thoughts / advice?
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Oliver Mirrytit - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:42:02 EST VsaRwmTc No.12734 Reply
Poland is something like 99% ethnic Polish, there are almost no Germans. Poles speak Polish. You're confused because you're completely uninformed and think with political map colors instead of facts. Soviets booted out Germans from what is now Western Poland. Earlier Germans antagonized Poles with their expansionism and kulturkampf. There is no reason at all for German to be used in Western Poland.
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Augustus Fopperchudge - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:51:57 EST A5EX172g No.12737 Reply
>>12734
Well, when I was in Poland there was the odd person in the west who did indeed spoke German, much better than English. Though from my experience there are very few people who speak either German or English and you'll just have to get by.

You'll be fine OP. Poles are fun, enthusiastic people who will make the effort to communicate with you despite the barrier.
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Augustus Fopperchudge - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:54:25 EST A5EX172g No.12738 Reply
>>12737
lol... didn't realise your OP was 2 months ago. Man this board has gotten reeeeeeeally slow.

Learning German

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- Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:18:10 EST S+cf3bfL No.12675
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So basically I've spent the past 24 years of my life never planning anything or putting any real effort towards anything I've done. I scraped by a university degree in a subject I will never get a job in and I've been consistantly underemployed in shitty jobs while living at home with my parents and masturbating constantly.

At the beginning of the year I went on holiday to Berlin and had the time of my life. Since then I had 2 cups of coffee one morning and basically planned out the next 6 years of my life. I wont bore you with the details but the most important part is that I will be moving to Berlin after my brothers wedding in May next year. This gives me 9 months to save up as much money as possible and, more importantly for this board, learn as much German as I possibly can.

The last language I learned was French. I remember making fun of the teacher by asking her if she "got lucky" because she came in wearing the same clothes 2 days in a row. I do not remember anything else.

Obviously the deciding factor in all of this will be my own discipline and work ethic, but I've come to 420chan for just about every major thing in my life since I was 16 and like hell am I going to stop now. Does anyone have any helpful links/stories/tips/anything-at-all they can give me about learning German?
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Nathaniel Gorryspear - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:46:22 EST ZGFxMxgk No.12730 Reply
holy fuck you guys are great at supplying absolutely nothing and ignoring OP
babaum.com I use to memorise nouns and verbs
clozemaster.com for after you've been studying for a while
duolingo.com is beginners heaven
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKkDjgBOPjWFUZUlX9n11X4w5QctOQQZG german movies
Youtube channels
slow german, Get germanized, bookbox german, deutsch für euch, Heidi oficial

I reccommend keeping a notebook to write down words zou dont know and translate
Google Translate is onlz good for some individual words, otherwise it's pretty much shit.
tatoeba.org for sentences, I haven't used it so I don't know if its good or not
bab.la another one I haven't really used

good luck
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Albert Hosslebanks - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:59:05 EST 49sOThSC No.12736 Reply
Ive been doing 10 minutes of duolingo a day for 2 years on german, and I visited austria the other month ago, and while it isnt german, they genuinely thought I was from Germany to some extent because of how I spoke it

let that settle in

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