Leave these fields empty (spam trap):
Name
You can leave this blank to post anonymously, or you can create a Tripcode by using the format Name#Password
Subject
Comment
[i]Italic Text[/i]
[b]Bold Text[/b]
[spoiler]Spoiler Text[/spoiler]
>Highlight/Quote Text
[pre]Preformatted & Monospace Text[/pre]
[super]Superset Text[/super]
[sub]Subset Text[/sub]
1. Numbered lists become ordered lists
* Bulleted lists become unordered lists
File

Sandwich


420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)

/a/ - Anime & Manga Discussion Now Available
Spanish to Portuguese Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Ian Mummerbotch - Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:54:54 EST ID:48iE+eos No.11823
File: 1414778094106.png -(38533B / 37.63KB, 653x467) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 38533
quick question for you guys. I'm aware that romatic language grammar structures are quite similar, but are they basically identical, just with different words, verbsm and conjucations, or are there major grammatical differences between them, specifically Spanish and Portuguese.


I have spoken Spanish for nearly 3 years and have obtained a fairly high level of fluency and comprehension in the language, mostly because I have lived in a Spanish speaking country for the time. I like languages and would like to learn another, and figured Portuguese would be a language not all that different (I hear Italian is closer but I have more interest in Portuguese because of Brazil).

Issue is, I do not have a lot of time right now, and may be just an hour before bed. How similar are the two languages from a grammatic stand point?

Thanks.
7 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Oliver Clinderway - Fri, 26 Dec 2014 16:10:24 EST ID:aB6uAQ+j No.11930 Ignore Report Reply
>>11823

I've been learning Spanish about 5 years and I'm fluent. I've been learning Portuguese about a week and it's quite cool, I can already understand advanced texts. Oh but I can barely figure out what's going on in a basic news report on the radio. Even if it's a story I read about earlier that day.

Pronunciation is difficult and there are enough differences in grammar to surprise you occasionally.. but if you speak fluent Spanish and you think Portuguese is hard it's because you've never learned another language, at least not as an adult.

I would say it's a massive mistake to start learning Portuguese until you have an advanced level of Spanish unless you have to. I lived in Catalonia and I saw my friends who tried to learn Catalan when their Spanish was only intermediate struggle. They constantly made silly mistakes in Spanish, like writing "havía" instead of "había" or using Catalan words that sound Spanish, confusing which grammar rule was Catalan and which was Spanish.. If you wanna learn a language before you are fluent in Spanish then learn something from another family. German for example, it's much harder, but it won't fuck your Spanish to pieces.
>>
Lydia Dadgeshit - Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:30:51 EST ID:9hlFs5NV No.11996 Ignore Report Reply
Você tomará no cu intensamente com a pronúncia do português brasileiro. Sério, boa sorte.
>>
James Clayway - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:58:03 EST ID:uyEVv9RZ No.12312 Ignore Report Reply
>I would say it's a massive mistake to start learning Portuguese
its very easy my brother all you have to do is speak chiado like xxx doix trex seix dex e ja faz sucesso com a mulecada tirando onda de favelado kkkk


Vietnamese Resources? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:18:54 EST ID:pVQtZPjw No.10020
File: 1380212334933.png -(6164B / 6.02KB, 200x133) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 6164
Anybody got some good resources they use for Vietnamese?

Here's a few off the top of my head

Memrise: memrise.com
Quà Tặng Cuộc Sống: http://www.youtube.com/user/QuaTangCuocSong4U
Learn Vietnamese with Annie: http://www.youtube.com/user/AnnieVietnamese
Learn How to Speak Vietnamese: http://www.youtube.com/user/learnvietnamese
Uz-Translations: http://uz-translations.net/
My 'Basic Vietnamese' decks: Not yet released (soon I promise)
>>
noko - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:40:40 EST ID:ItcXqMx4 No.12292 Ignore Report Reply
>>10020
Ih mané não entendo sua lingua não parça.


- Ale tu jest nawalone dezodorantem Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Oliver Pongerbanks - Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:16:56 EST ID:Cl3WlYO5 No.10029
File: 1380327416425.jpg -(77901B / 76.08KB, 300x300) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 77901
  • Sama się nawaliłaś dezodorantem
>>
noko - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:40:02 EST ID:ItcXqMx4 No.12290 Ignore Report Reply
>>10029
Tendi nada tá em gringês.


Want your help, wordsmiths Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Ian Blimblewig - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:25:45 EST ID:KR0otAvU No.11859
File: 1416180345621.jpg -(97639B / 95.35KB, 894x894) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 97639
What's the shortest, most powerful one syllable word you can come up with, original or not? For example "Tao" and "God" are short, unoriginal 'powerful' words and "Dog" is another short one syllable word. What words can you come up with?
17 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Chuj - Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:10:02 EST ID:o7JJ3EeW No.12264 Ignore Report Reply
Ul. Beehive in polish
>>
Jarvis Sunkinsat - Tue, 04 Aug 2015 19:54:41 EST ID:LAGTMvmi No.12265 Ignore Report Reply
>>11859
fag
>>
James Clayway - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:34:09 EST ID:uyEVv9RZ No.12284 Ignore Report Reply
1438965249354.png -(1486345B / 1.42MB, 1024x768) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
MEMES GET


How to pronounce: Ö & Ä? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
James Cungerpore - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:41:31 EST ID:RYQ9LXTa No.12233
File: 1437201691530.jpg -(748503B / 730.96KB, 1200x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 748503
Ever wondered how to pronounce those scandinavian letters Ä and Ö? Well here's how: BIRDMAN is essentially BÖÖRDMÄÄN. Hope that helps!
10 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Archie Sinkinbitch - Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:15:45 EST ID:W2NXF8Cu No.12267 Ignore Report Reply
>>12266
lol.
>>
Archie Greenbury - Wed, 05 Aug 2015 01:18:59 EST ID:/hq3aXTW No.12268 Ignore Report Reply
>scandinavian letters
nigga what.
my language even has Ő. Also Ű. And Í. And Ó.
I'm not even scandinavian.
Get on my level.
>>
James Clayway - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:32:52 EST ID:uyEVv9RZ No.12282 Ignore Report Reply
EHHUEHUEHUEEHEHUEE


writing a short story in a foreign language Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Hugh Begglenat - Sun, 19 Jul 2015 07:31:08 EST ID:PGQjFfMj No.12240
File: 1437305468998.jpg -(131201B / 128.13KB, 1740x1501) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 131201
Hello, group.
In the last three years, i began to write profusely in English, my natural language being french.
However, i know that i have not reached t complete fluency in writing yet,
Could you read an excerpt of the following story and make judgement on my english skills ? I have been told that i am not better than google translate and this seems a bit excessive... But on the other hand, i know i am not perfect.

Let you be the judge.

http://writeessaysandphilo.blogspot.pt/
>>
George Nicklebanks - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 06:52:26 EST ID:s7tRuAtf No.12242 Ignore Report Reply
Your writing has the choppy quality that I would expect from someone who is still learning English, but it is readable, understandable, and there were even some descriptions that I found pleasant to read. I only scanned your story for about 30 seconds, so keep that in mind.

Actually, some of science fiction parts went over my head, and I could not even tell if you were using the words appropriately or not. So in some ways, you may be better at English than I am. That is an interesting thing about learning a second language, you have a whole fluent history in another tongue that gives you an advantage, but as a whole your language skills are uneven.

I would say that you are well on your way toward becoming fluent and you are doing a terrific job. GOLD STAR. Who is a good boy? Yes, you are. Yes.
>>
Beatrice Fasslefield - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:03:10 EST ID:TEw5sPgq No.12243 Ignore Report Reply
The actual english is OK, but you've got some weird line breaks in there, and need more paragraphs/whitespace. The formatting makes it very hard to read, not the english.

Also, you might want to cut back a little on the exposition. Instead of talking about 'stratum 0', try to just imply these different levels of class. Too many sci-fi authors want to label every little detail of their world. This isn't necessary. *Show*, don't *tell*. I get that it's like it's hard-coded in the society's technology, but unecesasry terminology is really cliche in sci-fi. I would also think of alternative words for 'disinterfacement'. It's just a clunky, ugly word.

As far as grammar, there's a few quirks. Like these:

>Rough was wintertime when you started to need flash-lights in order to roam this soulless urban space,
> But they had not the power of disinterfacement,

These sentences are constructed in a pretentious way, that sounds silly and out of place. You went from terse Kurt Vonnegut prose to 18th century romance novel prose.


Fix the formatting first, because walls of text with weird line breaks are no good to read. You want paragraphs.


english films dubbed in arabic Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Phineas Drusslefitch - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 04:16:49 EST ID:FMWK7G0C No.12234
File: 1437207409068.png -(161351B / 157.57KB, 760x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 161351
I'm at a point in my arabic studies where textbooks and all that aren't getting me much further. When I got to this point with spanish I started watching movies I knew well dubbed in spanish alongside the original english scene by scene until I could move on to actual spanish films. With arabic though, the only torrents I can find are for Dysney movies, all in MSA and Egyptian. Does anyone know where I can find, like, any other movies or TV shows? Fight Club in particular I have pretty much memorized in English and Spanish, so that would be perfect, but others would be fine as well. I'd prefer the levantine dialect (especially lebanese) but MSA or Egyptian is fine too I guess.
1 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Clara Dubblechetch - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:10:23 EST ID:YAhfzJaq No.12237 Ignore Report Reply
Plenty of Arabic films in Netflix. Check it out.
>>
Nell Sammerson - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:27:48 EST ID:5kAIVeLX No.12238 Ignore Report Reply
>>12237
Don't got Netflix. 2poor
>>
Clara Dubblechetch - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:36:57 EST ID:YAhfzJaq No.12239 Ignore Report Reply
>>12238
Dont make this an excuse. jolly african-american.


Swearing/curse words Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Martha Trotdale - Sun, 24 May 2015 07:19:24 EST ID:+sj1g0/i No.12141
File: 1432466364988.jpg -(30185B / 29.48KB, 600x479) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 30185
What do you think is the best language for swearing?
Like which ones would feels the best to throw at someone and how aggressive they sound as well?
5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:06:11 EST ID:s7OgtqBn No.12219 Ignore Report Reply
English
>>
John Gibbledock - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:59:22 EST ID:h8A5L0NL No.12227 Ignore Report Reply
>>12193
vernacular italian has plenty of insults to all sorts of people, including gods
>>
cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:29:02 EST ID:CEs+htsk No.12361 Ignore Report Reply
1439058542655.jpg -(1285801B / 1.23MB, 2496x1504) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
Portugues.
swarthy as fuck.
look at portugal's location and realize every vessel travelling, trading, exploring or going to war to or from the mediterranean had to pass by it then think about all the sailors and pirates and whores and syphillis and drunken arguments and bar fights that goes with that.

the circumstances giving rise to that language and its epithets are surely a god damned scandal!
This would apply to general Gibralter area of course, it's jsut that.. ahh the way portuguese is spoken just has such scurvy potential and the language itsself is like a whore who's had a tongue lashing from all the scoundrels of euorpe, africa and the near east at least and you know sea dogs are sloppy drunk when they were spitting those curses too. it's perfect versatile language for a port town whore to mumble curses in with a mouth full o man's members arrrr.
>pirates, seamen, slavers, smugglers, faggy lords, perverts, italians and crazyfolkstribe*

*who omg babe would you get a load a that map?? who loves ya?


New Punctuation Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Oliver Buzzshit - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 02:47:37 EST ID:1C+Flis7 No.12223
File: 1436942857855.gif -(71126B / 69.46KB, 553x498) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 71126
Every day life on earth becomes a little more text based. We text more than we talk, and the things we write down will out live our bodies.
I've noticed as this happens, punctuation has failed to keep up and it's becoming annoying. Has anyone else felt this? Like you need more symbols to properly convey exactly your tone and intent?
I feel like we definitely need a new punctuation mark somewhere between the fullstop and the exclamation point. There are so many times I am writing something and it's emotional enough that the fullstop is just too mundane. But an exclamation point is not accurate either, it's too intense and overuse is quite frankly starting to devalue it. I suggest something like an exclamation point but with a cross on top instead of just a vertical line.
Also we need a new set of alternate quotation marks, it feels weird to quote something that already has quotes in it, and it ends on a quoted sentence so you end up with two quotation marks right nest to each other. Like if I wanted to quote a news story that was all like "In his defense, Area Man says his naked marathon is beneficial for the community. "I believe I am providing the sexual education public schools are afraid to.""
You see how awkward that last bullshit looks? We have 3 separate varieties of brackets for mathematics, (), [], {}. We're at the point where we need a linguistic equivalent.

What suggestions do you have /lang/?
>>
Graham Goodforth - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 03:51:02 EST ID:20BU4QeQ No.12224 Ignore Report Reply
It doesn't matter how much shit you tack onto the latin alphabet. It will not do a satisfactory job of conveying tone.
>>
CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 04:23:10 EST ID:JlPHeb6o No.12225 Ignore Report Reply
I feel you on the exclamation point thing. I've had a bunch of ideas of how to "improve" the way English is written, but never acted on most of them.

About the parentheses though: If you have a quote within a quote, I believe you're supposed to use single quotation marks inside of the doubles. Let's try it.
>"In his defense, Area Man says his naked marathon is beneficial for the community. 'I believe I am providing the sexual education public schools are afraid to.'"

Okay, it still looks a little strange at the end of the sentence. In situations like that, I think it's best just to rewrite the quote so you don't end up with too many quotation marks stacked at the end. Maybe this would work:
>"In his defense, Area Man claims his naked marathon is beneficial for the community. 'I believe I am providing the sexual education public schools are afraid to,' claims <Area Man's surname>."
>>
CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 04:25:50 EST ID:JlPHeb6o No.12226 Ignore Report Reply
>>12225
And apparently, different quotation marks are used differently depending on whether you use British or American English. I don't want to go into that though.


Languages that were made Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Angus Honeystock - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:53:40 EST ID:EoH94fyh No.12212
File: 1436313220781.jpg -(270123B / 263.79KB, 1567x862) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 270123
I'm talking about languages that were created with a set purpose in mind, like how Esperanto was created to make an easy to learn politically void language.
>>
Ian Churringhot - Wed, 08 Jul 2015 14:48:05 EST ID:Um8X0j4z No.12213 Ignore Report Reply
Klingon. I can tell this is going to be a great thread.
>>
silent protagonist - Sun, 12 Jul 2015 04:25:59 EST ID:UHqlMrNr No.12220 Ignore Report Reply
1436689559572.jpg -(165905B / 162.02KB, 962x1544) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
DICKS EVERYWHERE


The bible Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Frederick Chullertire - Tue, 05 May 2015 11:19:02 EST ID:v2a/POHn No.12110
File: 1430839142097.jpg -(31815B / 31.07KB, 797x479) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 31815
I don't know if many of you have noticed, but the bible is a very good way of learning languages. Maybe not when English is involved because of the archaic language, but otherwise it's more or less similarly translated in all European languages.
  • Many have a gist of some of the stories.
  • Virtually every sentence is numbered.
  • Its easy to find some story that can keep your attention.
Reading the bible is quite interesting in many ways even/especially if you're not religious.
>>
Phineas Blandlelud - Sun, 10 May 2015 10:16:32 EST ID:4a9FnRGS No.12116 Ignore Report Reply
>>12110
I have found this too. Being able to look each sentence up in some other language is really helpful.

As for
>Maybe not when English is involved because of the archaic language
I don't agree. I find the ESV translation is easily to read and it's not that different from what I speak.
Also there's the Basic English version I think it's called which sticks to fairly simple language.
But in some very obscure languages it's hard to find a good translation. For example the Ainu version (translated by John Bachelor) is unusable to anyone who actually speaks the language today.
>>
cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Fri, 03 Jul 2015 17:46:53 EST ID:CEs+htsk No.12211 Ignore Report Reply
1435960013711.gif -(1425502B / 1.36MB, 200x200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
>>12110
so are instruction books and assembly manuals
sometimes menus too. i cracked the korean alphabet over kim bob
(it had each word written ~pheonetically in english also)
won't work with chinese menus >_<


heiroglyphs Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Ebenezer Saffingberk - Sun, 31 May 2015 21:46:23 EST ID:kZ9ruhQR No.12155
File: 1433123183327.png -(2692B / 2.63KB, 196x274) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 2692
Does anybody know the meaning of this symbol? May be egyptian?
Rough picture by the way.

Thanks.
8 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Nobody - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 09:40:55 EST ID:60ieSg2M No.12202 Ignore Report Reply
>>12155
It means "Satan up yo butt" (Nah, j/k. . . but it could)
>>
Beatrice Hunnergold - Mon, 29 Jun 2015 03:22:07 EST ID:l3bN8S44 No.12206 Ignore Report Reply
>>12155

Too simple. Gonna need context.
>>
cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Fri, 03 Jul 2015 16:47:48 EST ID:CEs+htsk No.12210 Ignore Report Reply
1435956468744.jpg -(379395B / 370.50KB, 600x719) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
>>12155
where'd you find it and why do you think it might be egyptian? Looks like it could refer to the proper direction to procede if it's not a poseidon or devil thing

if it's grafitti it could be a Folk Staff, though it shouldnt have parabolic forks, they ought to be 90º angles


Esperanto & Duolingo Ignore Report View Thread Reply
James Pengernug - Fri, 29 May 2015 12:17:22 EST ID:kscWCA1l No.12152
File: 1432916242141.jpg -(50195B / 49.02KB, 526x394) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 50195
An article about the New York Esperanto Society and the new Duolingo Esperanto course.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/29/8672371/learn-esperanto-language-duolingo-app-origin-history
>>
Nigger Drummertedge - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 03:26:04 EST ID:QPZGgFX/ No.12182 Ignore Report Reply
This makes me wanna learn Esperanto in earnest rather than kinda here n there like I'm doing now. I appreciate the link OP.
>>
Sidney Classlewill - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:59:32 EST ID:hvUGT5Yh No.12205 Ignore Report Reply
1435456772377.jpg -(43537B / 42.52KB, 375x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
Not sure what 420chan allows advertising-wise but I thought I'd mention there is a pretty active esperanto-language chan board called Verda-Chan.
>>
Doris Gesslechutch - Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:39:53 EST ID:kscWCA1l No.12207 Ignore Report Reply
>>12182
Here are some resources to learn the language:

http://www.esperanto.com.au/learn-esperanto/learning-online/


This is driving me up the wall. Does this word not exist in English? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Jack Clunnershaw - Mon, 25 May 2015 01:48:29 EST ID:QPZGgFX/ No.12145
File: 1432532909525.jpg -(86985B / 84.95KB, 500x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 86985
Tl;dr at bottom.

I've been running into a whole bunch of situations to use a certain word, but the only problem is, I can't seem to think of what it could possibly be. It all started when I watched Brother Bear with my girlfriend. I noticed everyone's totem animals tended to represent more what they were missing/lacking in their lives/personalities than representations of their actual selves, even if not literally. For the unfamiliar, the main character needed to feel more love, or something, so he turned into a bear, which totemically represented love. Another character was assigned the dog (wisdom) totem, because he's kind of a dumbass. You see? And I thought it was a brilliant concept, that there could be a word/thing that represents, purely, that which is missing. So, after the movie was over, I looked up the etymology and meaning of (a) "totem", but was disappointed to find it wasn't exactly what I was thinking about. However, I haven't been able to find a word that does mean what I'm talking about ever since "totem" left this gap in my head for a word that has a certain meaning/concept. (Ironically, this word would describe itself, in my case.) That concept being: Something that is something missing; something that fills a gap which it specifically fulfills (in a square-peg-square-hole kinda way); something that represents anything (could be something like "confidence") missing. Any word in any language would do, I just need this word because I keep coming into situations in which I want to use this word, as if my brain thinks it contains such a word when it actually doesn't or no such word exists. I've searched plenty of reverse dictionaries and thesauruses to no avail. I've come across plenty of antonyms, ironically enough ("lacuna", "gap", etc).

>TL;DR
>What is a word that means "Something that is The Thing that is missing; something that fills a gap which it specifically fulfills; something that represents anything missing"? Any language is fine. I'd prefer if the word was explained in depth.
Thank you kind travelers. Be safe.
Pic unrelated.
1 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read.
>>
Jack Clunnershaw - Mon, 25 May 2015 03:16:13 EST ID:QPZGgFX/ No.12147 Ignore Report Reply
>>12146
Ooh! I have been interested in Esperanto because of the ease with which one can fashion together new words like that (or so I gather). So instead of saying "[Comic book character] is my confidence totem," (because this use of "totem" is incorrect, as I found out) I could say "[Comic book character] is my confidence mankaso"? I could also title my folder with hundreds of pictures of artistic inspiration and reference "art mankaso", yes?

I appreciate your help polyglotted stranger.
>>
Nobody - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:05:29 EST ID:60ieSg2M No.12203 Ignore Report Reply
>>12145
I think what your looking for would be better researched in philosophy than etymology to find your word or term. . . something like an "Epistemological Key" , although I don't think that exactly fits the bill
>>
Sidney Classlewill - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:56:31 EST ID:hvUGT5Yh No.12204 Ignore Report Reply
>>12146
I also thought of "mankaĵo" immediately... (assuming you meant mankaĵo...)

for OP: mankaĵo literally means "lacking thing", "missing thing" or even "imperfect thing" in the sense that it is lacking something--which actually makes it sort of the opposite of what you want, or at least ambiguous. To be absolutely clear you could say "mankantaĵo" which emphasizes that it is the thing that is currently missing, not just a thing that has to do with missing-ness.

Also, weirdly, I'm only here right now because I searched for "homaranismo" on google images and found OP's cheese pic for some reason, and wanted to view the page it was on.

As for English...That's really tough. Really the only thing that has come to mind after a few minutes of thinking on it is when people say "the missing piece of the puzzle". So...puzzle piece?


<<Last Pages Next>>
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Report Post
Reason
Note
Please be descriptive with report notes,
this helps staff resolve issues quicker.